Re: McCanns dispute DCI Redwood's dismissal of Tannerman

by diatribe 23.02.14 16:20

canada12 wrote:And nothing to substantiate any of it. No solid witnesses... other than the other members of their party.

I'm afraid that's the basic problem with mounting a prosecution, Canada, not only is there no tangible evidence to support much of what the McCanns and their friends state, there isn't much to refute it either.

Finding the body would obviously help, but even that may not yield any definitive evidence as to the cause of death due to nature and the passing of time, although it would be more difficult to maintain an abductor defence gambit if discovered in the proximity where the McCanns were staying.

by Sceptic 22.03.14 10:26

For £40,000 you surely would want your website kept bang upto date with the latest info/appeals to aid the search

by j.rob 22.03.14 14:05

MILLIE wrote:
jozi wrote:
Tangled Web wrote:
I find Bridget O'Donnell's interview in the Guardian 'My Months with Madeleine' very strange. Not once does she mention actually meeting Madeleine, seeing her (just 10 little blond girls) or talking about her specifically with KM. I just don't believe a word of it. Why would it take three hours to knock on Jes's apartment to tell them Madeleine had been abducted? Wouldn't they immediately knock on to find out if this couple had seen or heard anything or even to ask if Jes had seen Madeleine or anything suspicious while he was out 'walking his son in the buggy'. Very odd. And they both look like a couple of the e-fits IMO.

I agree with you Tangled Web "My Months with Madeleine". What months is she on about here, they were only on holiday for a week, so where does the months come in to it ??? How can she also say so many girls dressed in pink, Maddie must have been one of them.....how the hell does she know if she had not met her ???
What I found strange about Bridget O Donnell's article is the bit where she describes the banging on her door at 1am the morning after Madeleine was found to be missing. She says she heard a male mumbling and she and her partner wondered what to do. Jes had asked if they needed help searching and was told there was nothing he could do because Madeleine had been missing for three hours. In which case what was the point of waking up other holidaymakers if you didn't want them to do anything to help?

God they really are a bunch of idiots. There is, allegedly, a key witness who was standing talking to Gerry McCann when Jane Tanner allegedly sees Madeleine's abductor. They don't bother to ask him whether he saw anyone, despite the fact he was allegedly there and was therefore a crucial witness. And there is 'nothing he can do.'

Well, it seems Jes was almost definitely a thorn in the side of the McConspiracy. He didn't see Jane Tanner or the alleged abductor, so there is no independent witness to support Jane Tanner's alleged 'sighting' of Madeleine's alleged 'abductor'.

Another potentially important witness - Mrs Fenn a neighbour - who might have heard or seen something suspicious, is shouted at when she asks what is going on.

And if there is no point in Jes helping with the search three hours after Madeleine has allegedly been stolen, why then does Kate whine on page 83 of her book that on Friday 4 May at first light: "The most striking and horrific thing about all this was that we were completely alone. Nobody else, it seemed, was out looking for Madeleine. Just us, her parents. "

Right. So how come the distraught parents didn't look for her earlier, in the minutes and hours after she was allegedly stolen?

I suppose by the time it was light there would be a better opportunity for some nice press photos of the McMuppets as grieving, tormented parents combing the beach for the monster who has grabbed their child from her bed. Must have been annoying for the desperate parents that the press didn't arrive til 8.30pm when it was dark again. Still, Kate remembered to pick up Cuddle Cat in time for their anguished appeal to the assembled media which would be broadcast around the world.

And Gerry had the lines nicely rehearsed: "Words cannot describe the anguish and despair that we are feeling as the parents of our beautiful daughter Madeleine. "

Poor Kate, even as she clutched Cuddle Cat ("I was very troubled Madeleine didn't have Cuddle Cat with her. Just being able to hold something familiar might have given her a crumb of comfort") she found the huge crowd and incessant flashbulbs "incredibly intimidating."

You just couldn't make this up could you? Utter drivel.

by Newintown 22.03.14 14:19

j.rob wrote:
MILLIE wrote:
jozi wrote:
Tangled Web wrote:
I find Bridget O'Donnell's interview in the Guardian 'My Months with Madeleine' very strange. Not once does she mention actually meeting Madeleine, seeing her (just 10 little blond girls) or talking about her specifically with KM. I just don't believe a word of it. Why would it take three hours to knock on Jes's apartment to tell them Madeleine had been abducted? Wouldn't they immediately knock on to find out if this couple had seen or heard anything or even to ask if Jes had seen Madeleine or anything suspicious while he was out 'walking his son in the buggy'. Very odd. And they both look like a couple of the e-fits IMO.

I agree with you Tangled Web "My Months with Madeleine". What months is she on about here, they were only on holiday for a week, so where does the months come in to it ??? How can she also say so many girls dressed in pink, Maddie must have been one of them.....how the hell does she know if she had not met her ???
What I found strange about Bridget O Donnell's article is the bit where she describes the banging on her door at 1am the morning after Madeleine was found to be missing. She says she heard a male mumbling and she and her partner wondered what to do. Jes had asked if they needed help searching and was told there was nothing he could do because Madeleine had been missing for three hours. In which case what was the point of waking up other holidaymakers if you didn't want them to do anything to help?
God they really are a bunch of idiots. There is, allegedly, a key witness who was standing talking to Gerry McCann when Jane Tanner allegedly sees Madeleine's abductor. They don't bother to ask him whether he saw anyone, despite the fact he was allegedly there and was therefore a crucial witness. And there is 'nothing he can do.'

Well, it seems Jes was almost definitely a thorn in the side of the McConspiracy. He didn't see Jane Tanner or the alleged abductor, so there is no independent witness to support Jane Tanner's alleged 'sighting' of Madeleine's alleged 'abductor'.

Another potentially important witness - Mrs Fenn a neighbour - who might have heard or seen something suspicious, is shouted at when she asks what is going on.

And if there is no point in Jes helping with the search three hours after Madeleine has allegedly been stolen, why then does Kate whine on page 83 of her book that on Friday 4 May at first light: "The most striking and horrific thing about all this was that we were completely alone. Nobody else, it seemed, was out looking for Madeleine. Just us, her parents. "

Right. So how come the distraught parents didn't look for her earlier, in the minutes and hours after she was allegedly stolen?

I suppose by the time it was light there would be a better opportunity for some nice press photos of the McMuppets as grieving, tormented parents combing the beach for the monster who has grabbed their child from her bed. Must have been annoying for the desperate parents that the press didn't arrive til 8.30pm when it was dark again. Still, Kate remembered to pick up Cuddle Cat in time for their anguished appeal to the assembled media which would be broadcast around the world.

And Gerry had the lines nicely rehearsed: "Words cannot describe the anguish and despair that we are feeling as the parents of our beautiful daughter Madeleine. "

Poor Kate, even as she clutched Cuddle Cat ("I was very troubled Madeleine didn't have Cuddle Cat with her. Just being able to hold something familiar might have given her a crumb of comfort") she found the huge crowd and incessant flashbulbs "incredibly intimidating."

You just couldn't make this up could you? Utter drivel.

Yet on Oprah Winfrey Kate said that she hoped the abductor had given Madeleine her "pinkie", I assume she was referring to the pink comfort blanket that Madeleine always went to sleep with, although Kate forgot that it was photographed by the police on Madeleine's bed after she "disappeared" and just like Madeleine the the pink blankie "disappeared" (after it had been photographed). Hmmm, very strange!!!

by worriedmum 22.03.14 16:53

Newintown wrote ''
Yet on Oprah Winfrey Kate said that she hoped the abductor had given Madeleine her "pinkie", I assume she was referring to the pink comfort blanket that Madeleine always went to sleep with, although Kate forgot that it was photographed by the police on Madeleine's bed after she "disappeared" and just like Madeleine the the pink blankie "disappeared" (after it had been photographed). Hmmm, very strange!!!''

Can you point us to the video clip of this please Newintown? To go with this?

McCanns dispute DCI Redwood's dismissal of Tannerman - Page 15 Article-1041660-022B835300000578-206_468x307

McCanns dispute DCI Redwood's dismissal of Tannerman - Page 15 Article-1041660-022B835300000578-206_468x307

by Guest 22.03.14 17:06

worriedmum wrote:Newintown wrote ''
Yet on Oprah Winfrey Kate said that she hoped the abductor had given Madeleine her "pinkie", I assume she was referring to the pink comfort blanket that Madeleine always went to sleep with, although Kate forgot that it was photographed by the police on Madeleine's bed after she "disappeared" and just like Madeleine the the pink blankie "disappeared" (after it had been photographed). Hmmm, very strange!!!''

Can you point us to the video clip of this please Newintown? To go with this?

Don't know how to post videos maybe could add this too:
Witness Statement
Date: 2007-05-16
Carlos Manuel Carvalho Lacão

Occupation: GNR Officer
When they arrived at the scene, they entered the McCanns' apartment by the front door, and entered the living room, where there were some PJ officers as well as the McCann couple. They just talked to some colleagues from the PJ and asked for a piece of clothing that Madeleine had worn or used recently. They were given a pink/orange blanket that the child had been covered with in her bed.

by Newintown 22.03.14 17:15

worriedmum wrote:Newintown wrote ''
Yet on Oprah Winfrey Kate said that she hoped the abductor had given Madeleine her "pinkie", I assume she was referring to the pink comfort blanket that Madeleine always went to sleep with, although Kate forgot that it was photographed by the police on Madeleine's bed after she "disappeared" and just like Madeleine the the pink blankie "disappeared" (after it had been photographed). Hmmm, very strange!!!''

Can you point us to the video clip of this please Newintown? To go with this?

If you do a search on the internet for the Kate and Gerry McCann interview on Oprah Winfrey you should be able to find it. It's been mentioned many times before on this forum but I didn't keep a copy it. Maybe some kind member who keeps copies of all links may be able to post it for you.

by jeanmonroe 23.03.14 2:24

Newintown wrote ''
Yet on Oprah Winfrey Kate said that she hoped the abductor had given Madeleine her "pinkie", I assume she was referring to the pink comfort blanket that Madeleine always went to sleep with, although Kate forgot that it was photographed by the police on Madeleine's bed after she "disappeared" and just like Madeleine the the pink blankie "disappeared" (after it had been photographed). Hmmm, very strange!!!''
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And Cuddle Cat had already 'jumped down' from the high shelf/ledge, out of Madeleine's 'reach', that made KM 'know' she had been 'abducted, when Kate had run out of the apartment to go to tapas, and had landed, handily, right onto the pillow on Madeleine's bed, when she and the 'gang' returned to the apartment,.minutes later.

Good job really because the 'high shelf/ledge' was also 'abducted/disappeared' before the PJ got there!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-474844/Madeleines-favourite-Cuddle-Cat-toy-placed-reach.html

}Madeleine's favourite toy, her pink 'Cuddle Cat, was taken from her arms and placed beyond her reach by her kidnapper, according to new reports.

This important evidence could point to the fact that Madeleine was actually taken alive.

According to a report in the Sunday Mirror, Kate McCann knew instantly that Madeleine had been abducted when she saw that the toy had been moved from her sleeping daughter's arms and placed on a ledge way beyond the four-year-old's reach.

The paper quotes a police source as saying: "When Kate tucked Madeleine up in bed earlier in the evening she had the toy tightly in her arms as she did every night.

"So Kate was terrified when she spotted it had been left in a place too high for her to reach.
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SO, if Kate was 'terrified' CC had been placed on a 'ledge' way out of Madeleine's 'reach' and that's how she KNEW Madeleine had been 'abducted', HOW DID CC GET ONTO MADELEINE'S PILLOW BEFORE THE POLICE ARRIVED AND PHOTOGRAPHED IT?

WHO MOVED CC FROM THE HIGH LEDGE/SHELF AND 'PUT/PLACED' (STAGED?) IT THERE ON THE PILLOW?

SOMEBODY DID!

WHO?

by ultimaThule 23.03.14 2:29

jeanmonroe wrote:Newintown wrote ''
Yet on Oprah Winfrey Kate said that she hoped the abductor had given Madeleine her "pinkie", I assume she was referring to the pink comfort blanket that Madeleine always went to sleep with, although Kate forgot that it was photographed by the police on Madeleine's bed after she "disappeared" and just like Madeleine the the pink blankie "disappeared" (after it had been photographed). Hmmm, very strange!!!''
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And Cuddle Cat had already 'jumped down' from the high shelf/ledge, out of Madeleine's 'reach', that made KM 'know' she had been 'abducted, and had landed, handily, right onto the pillow on Madeleine's bed.

Good job really because the 'high shelf/ledge' was also 'abducted/disappeared' before the PJ got there!

It must have been a gale force wind that whooshed the curtains and blew away the high shelf and every trace of Madeleine from 5A on that fateful night. It seems Cuddle Cat was lucky to escape with 8 lives intact.

by jeanmonroe 23.03.14 2:55

It must have been a gale force wind that whooshed the curtains
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It must have been a gale force wind that whooshed the curtains that were PINNED BACK TIGHT and TUCKED BEHIND the bed against the wall, by the bed, under the window!

And CC will at least get out of the house, next Sunday, Mother's Day , when Amelie will be 'carrying' him to Church, walking with Mummy.

(no photos please! Oh alright then, but just a few hundred!)

by Bishop Brennan 23.03.14 4:17

With all the recent revelations on CW and the Guardian, the McCanns are strangely silent...

Remember the key points of the McCann story:

1. Shutters were jemmied / windows open. SY have said 'no sign of a forced entry' and even 'may have had keys'
2. That it was an abduction. This 'may not be in line with their thinking'
3. That she is still alive. SY say she 'may have died before leaving the apartment'
4. That she was taken at 9.15pm. SY say it happened between 9.40pm and 9.55pm
5. That 'tannerman' was the abductor. SY say that he was just a father taking his kid back

SY's strongest suspects appear to be the serial sex offender (abused her, killed her and hid the body) and/or 3-burglars (burglary went wrong, killed her and hid the body). If so the entire McCann narrative was wrong. And their website now looks horrifically out of date. However it will not be changed. The McCanns are committed to their story and I believe they will stick to it no matter what. (It's also the foundation of their libel case - a case which SY have effectively now ruined).

Sadly for Maddie, none of the SY theories suggest she could be alive. After almost 3 years, they appear to have got to the same position as the PJ. That she died in the flat and that her body was hidden. Maybe those dogs were right after all... But then.... Shocked

by ultimaThule 23.03.14 5:55

As I see it, other than making a full and frank admission of complicity in the disappearance of their eldest daughter, the McCanns have no choice but to stick with their story.

I'm hoping that the revelation of Crechaman came as a surprise to the Tapas 7, and that none of them have broken their pact with the ~~devil~~ the McCanns as I'd like to see these 9 liars standing in the dock and going down together

by ultimaThule 23.03.14 6:10

jeanmonroe wrote:It must have been a gale force wind that whooshed the curtains
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It must have been a gale force wind that whooshed the curtains that were PINNED BACK TIGHT and TUCKED BEHIND the bed against the wall, by the bed, under the window!

And CC will at least get out of the house, next Sunday, Mother's Day , when Amelie will be 'carrying' him to Church, walking with Mummy.

(no photos please! Oh alright then, but just a few hundred!)

It occurs to me that any jury trying this case will be taken to the scene of the crime where there may be need for the services of a gentleman of impeccable reputation who has knowledge of the weather patterns on the night of 3rd May 2007 to operate a wind machine in order to simulate the conditions which KM found on her return to 5A at 10pm and, in this regard, I can think of no better candidate than PeterMac to demonstrate the slamming or otherwise of the bedroom door, together with the whooshing or otherwise of the curtains which were trapped behind the bed. big grin

In the meantime I shall look forward to CC's annual appearance, albeit he may have been superseded by one of his ~~clones~~ pals who came off the conveyor belt around the same time that he did.

by columbostogeys 23.03.14 6:35

Bishop Brennan wrote:With all the recent revelations on CW and the Guardian, the McCanns are strangely silent...

Remember the key points of the McCann story:

1. Shutters were jemmied / windows open. SY have said 'no sign of a forced entry' and even 'may have had keys'
2. That it was an abduction. This 'may not be in line with their thinking'
3. That she is still alive. SY say she 'may have died before leaving the apartment'
4. That she was taken at 9.15pm. SY say it happened between 9.40pm and 9.55pm
5. That 'tannerman' was the abductor. SY say that he was just a father taking his kid back

SY's strongest suspects appear to be the serial sex offender (abused her, killed her and hid the body) and/or 3-burglars (burglary went wrong, killed her and hid the body). If so the entire McCann narrative was wrong. And their website now looks horrifically out of date. However it will not be changed. The McCanns are committed to their story and I believe they will stick to it no matter what. (It's also the foundation of their libel case - a case which SY have effectively now ruined).

Sadly for Maddie, none of the SY theories suggest she could be alive. After almost 3 years, they appear to have got to the same position as the PJ. That she died in the flat and that her body was hidden. Maybe those dogs were right after all... But then....

I thought at first burglary gone wrong, take child away, but why? The only reason would be because the burglars DNA is on file...but then no fingerprints so fully covered would not leave DNA...?

IF it was a burglary gone wrong, where does Smith man fit in? The guy carrying the child did not seem to be anxious or in a hurry, and why take a dead child through popular and lit streets...surely you would have a car close to the old lagos road, and go that way out of PDL the back route.

The serial sex attacker was checked on, and discussed in newspapers by Edgar the employee of the McCanns. The others have been rang through on CW, so I would take most of them with a pinch of salt. IF you knew your child had been sexually assaulted by someone you would have reported regardless of where you lived. Also if children had been sexually assaulted where they not taken to the hospital for swabs and DNA gathering?

This case is getting more and more bizarre. Too many cooks ..... comes to mind...the left doesnt know what the right is doing or the left has already done it.

by **PeterMac** 23.03.14 7:03

ultimaThule wrote:. . . I can think of no better candidate than PeterMac to demonstrate the slamming or otherwise of the bedroom door, together with the whooshing or otherwise of the curtains which were trapped behind the bed.

I think anyone could do it. Just stand outside and cough.

by Bishop Brennan 23.03.14 7:42

columbostogeys wrote:
IF it was a burglary gone wrong, where does Smith man fit in? The guy carrying the child did not seem to be anxious or in a hurry, and why take a dead child through popular and lit streets...surely you would have a car close to the old lagos road, and go that way out of PDL the back route.

I think in the twilight zone of the SY that Smithman is one of the 3 burglars. The burglary went wrong - leading to Burglar1 killing Maddie in a panic. Then Burglar2 or 3 took over, and had to remove her and the evidence from the scene. Then some frantic calls between all of them to work out what to do next.

Not a jot of evidence for any of that of course - pure supposition from SY but as BHH told us, they have names! thumbsup

Of course in the 'smellyman' scenario - Smithman has no role to play at all. Unless smellyman started off black, became tanned during his break-ins and then finally becomes white as he scarpers with Maddie and is spotted by the Smiths....

All nonsense. And the OFM site isn't having any of it. They're staying loyal to Tannerman!

by **tigger** 23.03.14 8:00

PeterMac wrote:
ultimaThule wrote:. . . I can think of no better candidate than PeterMac to demonstrate the slamming or otherwise of the bedroom door, together with the whooshing or otherwise of the curtains which were trapped behind the bed.
I think anyone could do it. Just stand outside and cough.

I think that whole sequence - raising the suspense, the 'almost' not looking, then Suddenly! .........Slam!!! Curtains flapping and there! The empty bed!, with the absolute proof of abduction, Cuddlecat and Princess Blanket (every parent will recognise this attachment of a child to a given object) and the Revelation!! - is a tried and tested formula very familiar to film and documentary makers.

I could go on but I want to point out:

Neither McCann nor Healy have enough imagination to construct this scene.
Therefore someone else wrote the script, which is part of any media course in the UK. Students are given a few bits of information to 'build a scene' - which is why TV drama is so formulaic it's hardly worth watching in most cases.

Such constructs tend to trigger a Pavlovian response in the majority of viewers. All this time the performance given by McCann and Healy is closely modelled on a number of soap scripts familiar to millions of viewers and repeated by the tabloids.

All my opinion of course. winkwink

by Liz Eagles 23.03.14 8:43

tigger wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
ultimaThule wrote:. . . I can think of no better candidate than PeterMac to demonstrate the slamming or otherwise of the bedroom door, together with the whooshing or otherwise of the curtains which were trapped behind the bed.
I think anyone could do it. Just stand outside and cough.

I think that whole sequence - raising the suspense, the 'almost' not looking, then Suddenly! .........Slam!!! Curtains flapping and there! The empty bed!, with the absolute proof of abduction, Cuddlecat and Princess Blanket (every parent will recognise this attachment of a child to a given object) and the Revelation!! - is a tried and tested formula very familiar to film and documentary makers.

I could go on but I want to point out:

Neither McCann nor Healy have enough imagination to construct this scene.
Therefore someone else wrote the script, which is part of any media course in the UK. Students are given a few bits of information to 'build a scene' - which is why TV drama is so formulaic it's hardly worth watching in most cases.

Such constructs tend to trigger a Pavlovian response in the majority of viewers. All this time the performance given by McCann and Healy is closely modelled on a number of soap scripts familiar to millions of viewers and repeated by the tabloids.

All my opinion of course.

As the parents can't seem to agree whether Madeleine was under the covers or on top of the bed, whether they went in through the front or back door to check all adds to the plot. The parents can however remember the precise angle of the bedroom door they left open.

What mark would you give this out of ten for a script?

by **PeterMac** 23.03.14 9:20

aquila wrote:
What mark would you give this out of ten for a script?

Not many.
They forgot to mention "it was a dark and stormy night"
Even Hammer Horror gets that bit right.
As with the Last Photo they have totally ignored the weather conditions, or failed to recognise that they are in the public domain and remain so forever.

The Last Photo is proved to be false because it was NOT hot and sunny at lunchtime, but fairly cold and breezy
and the whooshing curtains and slamming doors are false because by 10pm there was no wind to do it.

Next please !

by gbwales 23.03.14 9:35

columbostogeys wrote:
Bishop Brennan wrote:With all the recent revelations on CW and the Guardian, the McCanns are strangely silent...

Remember the key points of the McCann story:

1. Shutters were jemmied / windows open. SY have said 'no sign of a forced entry' and even 'may have had keys'
2. That it was an abduction. This 'may not be in line with their thinking'
3. That she is still alive. SY say she 'may have died before leaving the apartment'
4. That she was taken at 9.15pm. SY say it happened between 9.40pm and 9.55pm
5. That 'tannerman' was the abductor. SY say that he was just a father taking his kid back

SY's strongest suspects appear to be the serial sex offender (abused her, killed her and hid the body) and/or 3-burglars (burglary went wrong, killed her and hid the body). If so the entire McCann narrative was wrong. And their website now looks horrifically out of date. However it will not be changed. The McCanns are committed to their story and I believe they will stick to it no matter what. (It's also the foundation of their libel case - a case which SY have effectively now ruined).

Sadly for Maddie, none of the SY theories suggest she could be alive. After almost 3 years, they appear to have got to the same position as the PJ. That she died in the flat and that her body was hidden. Maybe those dogs were right after all... But then....
I thought at first burglary gone wrong, take child away, but why? The only reason would be because the burglars DNA is on file...but then no fingerprints so fully covered would not leave DNA...?

IF it was a burglary gone wrong, where does Smith man fit in? The guy carrying the child did not seem to be anxious or in a hurry, and why take a dead child through popular and lit streets...surely you would have a car close to the old lagos road, and go that way out of PDL the back route.

The serial sex attacker was checked on, and discussed in newspapers by Edgar the employee of the McCanns. The others have been rang through on CW, so I would take most of them with a pinch of salt. IF you knew your child had been sexually assaulted by someone you would have reported regardless of where you lived. Also if children had been sexually assaulted where they not taken to the hospital for swabs and DNA gathering?

This case is getting more and more bizarre. Too many cooks ..... comes to mind...the left doesnt know what the right is doing or the left has already done it.

Too many crooks... winkwink

by Mirage 23.03.14 9:47

gbwales wrote:
columbostogeys wrote:
Bishop Brennan wrote:With all the recent revelations on CW and the Guardian, the McCanns are strangely silent...

Remember the key points of the McCann story:

1. Shutters were jemmied / windows open. SY have said 'no sign of a forced entry' and even 'may have had keys'
2. That it was an abduction. This 'may not be in line with their thinking'
3. That she is still alive. SY say she 'may have died before leaving the apartment'
4. That she was taken at 9.15pm. SY say it happened between 9.40pm and 9.55pm
5. That 'tannerman' was the abductor. SY say that he was just a father taking his kid back

SY's strongest suspects appear to be the serial sex offender (abused her, killed her and hid the body) and/or 3-burglars (burglary went wrong, killed her and hid the body). If so the entire McCann narrative was wrong. And their website now looks horrifically out of date. However it will not be changed. The McCanns are committed to their story and I believe they will stick to it no matter what. (It's also the foundation of their libel case - a case which SY have effectively now ruined).

Sadly for Maddie, none of the SY theories suggest she could be alive. After almost 3 years, they appear to have got to the same position as the PJ. That she died in the flat and that her body was hidden. Maybe those dogs were right after all... But then....
I thought at first burglary gone wrong, take child away, but why? The only reason would be because the burglars DNA is on file...but then no fingerprints so fully covered would not leave DNA...?

IF it was a burglary gone wrong, where does Smith man fit in? The guy carrying the child did not seem to be anxious or in a hurry, and why take a dead child through popular and lit streets...surely you would have a car close to the old lagos road, and go that way out of PDL the back route.

The serial sex attacker was checked on, and discussed in newspapers by Edgar the employee of the McCanns. The others have been rang through on CW, so I would take most of them with a pinch of salt. IF you knew your child had been sexually assaulted by someone you would have reported regardless of where you lived. Also if children had been sexually assaulted where they not taken to the hospital for swabs and DNA gathering?

This case is getting more and more bizarre. Too many cooks ..... comes to mind...the left doesnt know what the right is doing or the left has already done it.

Too many crooks...

You're right.. Too many crooks spoil the froth! laughat

by russiandoll 23.03.14 9:48

by MRNOODLES 23.03.14 16:53

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by **tigger** 23.03.14 17:36

Lovely! One for the family album. Gerry is quite frightening even when he purports to be nice. smilie

by Newintown 23.03.14 18:04

tigger wrote:Lovely! One for the family album. Gerry is quite frightening even when he purports to be nice.

Yes, quite a menacing look. I wouldn't like to be one of his work colleagues who disagreed with him, if you got that look aimed at you you would know you were in big trouble. cutthroat