Normal Justice Wanted: a TRIAL for Child Madeleine McCann's Parents.

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Normal Justice Wanted: a TRIAL for Child Madeleine McCann's Parents.

Post  Karen Pinto on Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:31 am


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Re: Normal Justice Wanted: a TRIAL for Child Madeleine McCann's Parents.

Post  StarsOnYou on Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:39 pm

It is very good of you Karen Pinto to have shared this petition. I'm not sure if I'll manage to include a photo that I had seen elsewhere of another sharing, and there is a video to it also:

I suggest that, if you have signed the petition, http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/portugal-gabinete-de-sua-excel%C3%AAncia-a-ministra-da-justi%C3%A7a-normal-justice-wanted-a-trial-for-child-madeleine-mccann-s-parents , that you may copy its link and paste it on social sites like Facebook or Tweeter, so that it boosts the number of signatures. I regularly do (but it kinds of echo in a desert...). I don't know how long there is left to gather, hopefully for the Truth about Madeleine, many more signatures, or if this will influence/ encourage the Portuguese legal system to take an action, but .... in Hope I Trust, LOL. yes


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Post  Châtelaine on Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:43 pm

I don't want to seem old and dusty, but ... would it not be better to let 2 joined renowned police forces continue their investigation and bring the case to court IF and WHEN they have all the evidence to do so ?

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Post  TMH on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:02 pm

I don't think the McCanns will be put on trial just because some members of the public want it to happen. Hopefully they'll get prosecuted when SY and PJ have done their investigations and find out all the inconsistancies with this case, but until then, I don't think the petition will do any good - sorry

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Post  StarsOnYou on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:13 pm

Châtelaine wrote:I don't want to seem old and dusty, but ... would it not be better to let 2 joined renowned police forces continue their investigation and bring the case to court IF and WHEN they have all the evidence to do so ?
Hi Chatelaine, I remember your name from past forums. It's always heat (or heart, maybe)-warming to bump into some trusted names I had grown familiar with dance, lol at the smileys on the side there, they make me laugh.

Yes in this respect, and if and only if, big if, these bodies can be trusted.... then I'd be more than happy (and would have no other 'choice' but awaiting what comes out of the recent finds and revelations, like the MCanns hid for 5 years impoortant elements in the file-work that their previous P.I's had come to) (and if I'm correct, we heard of even some 'threatening' so that the Oakley team would keep quiet... Mmmh....) to "let them continue" as you say! Replying on a post and helping sharing a petition does not, in anyway, prevent anyone from doing their own jobs... But will they finally do it right? One Saint Day?

This is a Research + Database + Opinion forum, my sharing and replying falling in the latter part (and also, greatly, in the first) and in my view, if we'd all agree with the "power that be", well, there wouldn't be any point of having forums and freedom of speech (or what's left of it...) ...

Personally, Chatelaine, I have little trust in NSY now... I sincerely hope that Mr Redwood at NSY or the met-police will help me change my mind before this Christmas...

Thank you for your reply, Xx


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Post  StarsOnYou on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:32 pm

TMH wrote:I don't think the McCanns will be put on trial just because some members of the public want it to happen. Hopefully they'll get prosecuted when SY and PJ have done their investigations and find out all the inconsistancies with this case, but until then, I don't think the petition will do any good - sorry
Hi TMH. Well petitions are, sadly at times, not regarded as how they should be -- like I signed many others against Child abuse... and Animal abuse... and other cases... but for most, we never seem to see the day when all this cruelty and "Granchester Grind" will stop -- but at least these incentives help to raise awareness to this... "schmilblick" of a case...  (Mr Bean comes to mind...) The texts are explicative. Actually there are two petitions, the smaller one being on i-petition, I think...

Many people have signed both of them and have shared them, regardless of pessimism. It can always help in some way, I perfectly agree with you of not getting our hopes up about this, but at least it's an idea and frankly, if you are revolted against the lies (and I won't come back on my words as I can prove it), contradictions in statements and bizarre attitudes and facts, well you perhaps shouldn't shoot someone in the foot for just replying to a post on a forum, my opinion, you see, is equal to any other... I hope you agree...

A screen-capture of another sharing I saw on facebook I think... : (I don't think I understand how to upload a pic on this forum so I'll paste, later, some parts of text from these petitions. In Hope I Trust ;)for a Child I've hoped to see alive since May 2007. roses 

but this is my stance only... Don't shoot, lol splat

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Post  Châtelaine on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:32 pm

Believe me or not, StarsOnYou, but I DO have faith in SY and PJ. As I've said many time here and elsewhere before, most detectives are detective BECAUSE they want justice be done. The bigger part of them - there are always rotten apples in the basket, of course - are all for getting a case solved, sometimes even after their retirement - they won't give up. A criminal case is never closed for them and we have many examples of them and those. I can imagine, that sometimes they come under pressure from the powers that be, as history has told us for ages. However, I do not see here, in this case and at this moment in time an attempt to bury the sorry truth, whichever it is. As Amaral said: Justice works in silence. I think we should believe him. And if Andy Redwood is doing, what I think he's doing, his team is doing, I'll send him a big bouquet of red roses ...  roses  And in that case too, he should have some kind of an award for ham acting "stupid cop" and saying things without saying them yes

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Post  StarsOnYou on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:46 pm

Châtelaine wrote:Believe me or not, StarsOnYou, but I DO have faith in SY and PJ. As I've said many time here and elsewhere before, most detectives are detective BECAUSE they want justice be done. The bigger part of them - there are always rotten apples in the basket, of course - are all for getting a case solved, sometimes even after their retirement - they won't give up. A criminal case is never closed for them and we have many examples of them and those. I can imagine, that sometimes they come under pressure from the powers that be, as history has told us for ages. However, I do not see here, in this case and at this moment in time an attempt to bury the sorry truth, whichever it is. As Amaral said: Justice works in silence. I think we should believe him. And if Andy Redwood is doing, what I think he's doing, his team is doing, I'll send him a big bouquet of red roses ...  roses  And in that case too, he should have some kind of an award for ham acting "stupid cop" and saying things without saying them yes
Yes I'd love to trust them a 100% too but having followed these developments since the "Review" started here on British grounds, and at the demand of the McCanns, I noticed a change of "atmosphere" in what we can perceive of Mr Redwood's office. At first the Met (NSY) began by proclaiming to the media that they strongly investigated the PARENTS of Madeleine as they were, from what I could understand, a lead... and all in all that meant that again they were under suspicion, unofficially.

But a few moths later, what did Mr Andy Redwood come out with on each of our TV or PC or tablets/ phones screens? "NSY NOW believes in ABDUCTION!" or in such words, same meaning exactly.

Now recently the "grieving parents", always, still, in the lime light, were kindly invited "in the arms" of Mr Redwood as gusts of the BBC "Crimewatch". If only it hadn't been from the Oakley Team to react, soon after, about THAT e-fit they had created from the Martin Smith & Family witnessing, we'd still be manipulated to think that Maddie's parents are in NO WAY INVOLVED. And it wouldn't particularly be un-helped by Mr Redwood...

What did we see next? The TRACTOR MAN. Oh PLEASE........

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Re: Normal Justice Wanted: a TRIAL for Child Madeleine McCann's Parents.

Post  Daisy on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:47 pm

I've signed enough petitions in my life to know they do sod all good unless it suits some government agenda. I can't apologise for being this cynical it's my experience of life so far.

I also agree it's only right to wait upon the outcome of ongoing investigations before taking these kind of actions. In fact all this new attention (at the wrong time) could end up doing more harm than good.

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Post  StarsOnYou on Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:47 pm

Months, sorry, or "moths"... it's the Mothman. He did it.

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