Why are there only 4 passports on the bedside table?
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Why are there only 4 passports on the bedside table?
This comment was posted on my blog by 'starfish' this morning and wondered if anyone could shed any light on the passports in particular, as I didn't know that.
Posted by 'Starfish'
they continually smirk and huff and gerrys gestures and body language indicate he is lying
the pink blanket is on the bed of madeline mccann in the photos and why does kete say she hopes they give madeline her blanket - it was still in the apartment when she was "abducted "
Why are there only 4 passports on the dresser table in the police photos and which passport is missing ?
how can jerry mccann account for nearly an hour of missing time ?
he was supposedly doing his check at 9.pm and then oldfield at 9 15 and then jame tanner who didnt even check the mccanns apartment at 9.30 (she went and checked her own kids ) and then kate went to do her check because gerry was taking so long at 10 pm - so what was gerrys doing he wasnt back when kate left at 10 pm but jane said she saw him when she went to do her check -
something very very fishy about the whole thing
Posted by 'Starfish'
they continually smirk and huff and gerrys gestures and body language indicate he is lying
the pink blanket is on the bed of madeline mccann in the photos and why does kete say she hopes they give madeline her blanket - it was still in the apartment when she was "abducted "
Why are there only 4 passports on the dresser table in the police photos and which passport is missing ?
how can jerry mccann account for nearly an hour of missing time ?
he was supposedly doing his check at 9.pm and then oldfield at 9 15 and then jame tanner who didnt even check the mccanns apartment at 9.30 (she went and checked her own kids ) and then kate went to do her check because gerry was taking so long at 10 pm - so what was gerrys doing he wasnt back when kate left at 10 pm but jane said she saw him when she went to do her check -
something very very fishy about the whole thing
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Re: Why are there only 4 passports on the bedside table?
Hi Jill
Its a very long time since my children were on my passport and things may have changed, but could it simply be that the age of the two younger children meant that they actually didn't need their own passports. Mind that would make three on the table.
Perhaps some of the other parents had popped their passports there for a reason? Haven't a clue - just having a guess.
Take care
Its a very long time since my children were on my passport and things may have changed, but could it simply be that the age of the two younger children meant that they actually didn't need their own passports. Mind that would make three on the table.
Perhaps some of the other parents had popped their passports there for a reason? Haven't a clue - just having a guess.
Take care
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Starfish is messing up the timings.
Think she's talking about the dresser table in the Villa, not in the apartment, is it?
Think she's talking about the dresser table in the Villa, not in the apartment, is it?
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Re: Why are there only 4 passports on the bedside table?
well Madeleine's passport is here: http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/MADELINE.htm
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jkh wrote:This comment was posted on my blog by 'starfish' this morning and wondered if anyone could shed any light on the passports in particular, as I didn't know that.
Posted by 'Starfish'
they continually smirk and huff and gerrys gestures and body language indicate he is lying
the pink blanket is on the bed of madeline mccann in the photos and why does kete say she hopes they give madeline her blanket - it was still in the apartment when she was "abducted "
(hope they give her blanket - a blanket, any blanket, to her???....my son had a blanket, which was any blanket he laid his hands on....it was always called 'his' blanket when it was in his possession though)
Why are there only 4 passports on the dresser table in the police photos and which passport is missing ?
(not Madeleine's or maybe it was, maybe they showed it to the police)
how can jerry mccann account for nearly an hour of missing time ?
he was supposedly doing his check at 9.pm and then oldfield at 9 15 and then jame tanner who didnt even check the mccanns apartment at 9.30 (she went and checked her own kids ) and then kate went to do her check because gerry was taking so long at 10 pm - so what was gerrys doing he wasnt back when kate left at 10 pm but jane said she saw him when she went to do her check -
(taking too long??? taking to long to get up and go and check again maybe??)
something very very fishy about the whole thing
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Yes, maybe the police took it. Well, they must have taken it if Pamalam has got it on her blog, presumably from the police files.
Another mystery solved?
jkh wrote:This comment was posted on my blog by 'starfish' this morning and wondered if anyone could shed any light on the passports in particular, as I didn't know that.
Posted by 'Starfish'
they continually smirk and huff and gerrys gestures and body language indicate he is lying
the pink blanket is on the bed of madeline mccann in the photos and why does kete say she hopes they give madeline her blanket - it was still in the apartment when she was "abducted "
(hope they give her blanket - a blanket, any blanket, to her???....my son had a blanket, which was any blanket he laid his hands on....it was always called 'his' blanket when it was in his possession though)
Why are there only 4 passports on the dresser table in the police photos and which passport is missing ?
(not Madeleine's or maybe it was, maybe they showed it to the police)
Yes, maybe the police took it. Well, they must have taken it if Pamalam has got it on her blog, presumably from the police files.
Another mystery solved?
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Re: Why are there only 4 passports on the bedside table?
hence the stories about private boats impossible to take a child out of a country accross a border without a passport,no quick route to a Belgian criminal gang hence the new tales of dark dens in the wild lands around PDL
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is it impossible to get a child across a border without a passport?
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Poor choice of word I agree,nothing is impossible but it shows bad planning on the part of the organised international kidnapping gang who were taking a specific child to order and watching the group for days - back to the random chance abductor on foot with no plan at all I suppose and Dave EDGARS dens within a 10 mile radius-but no easy exit with a passport
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No. It's not impossible to get anyone anywhere on land.
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WOODWARD wrote:Poor choice of word I agree,nothing is impossible but it shows bad planning on the part of the organised international kidnapping gang who were taking a specific child to order and watching the group for days - back to the random chance abductor on foot with no plan at all I suppose and Dave EDGARS dens within a 10 mile radius-but no easy exit with a passport
no gang in their right might would move a child around using their own passport.
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How would they move her around then vaguely? How would any right minded gang move a 4year old child from Portugal to Belgium without her passport?
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Simple. Schengen. No borders with passport checks.
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WOODWARD wrote:How would they move her around then vaguely? How would any right minded gang move a 4year old child from Portugal to Belgium without her passport?
Woodward.
If you are a member of an organised child trafficking gang, do you not think you would also have contacts that could produce a passport for your use?
You think at a passport check nobody would pick up on the fact that the minor in the group had a different surname to the adults that they were travelling with, or that half an hour later when there was an all ports/borders alert that they wouldn't be a lot easier to find as the checker would recall the name and know where they were half an hour before?
Aside from all that, do you not think they have vehicles in which children and or adults can be hidden whilst going through border checks?
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And of Course, the Currency of All International Commerce, Business, Everything: Bribery.
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Having driven to many european countries its not unusual not to have to show passports.Inyx wrote:Simple. Schengen. No borders with passport checks.
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Re: Why are there only 4 passports on the bedside table?
but I guess they would either have someone hidden, or they would have a ready made passport in case.
They wouldn't risk carrying a person over the borders without documentation, unless there was no chance of them being discovered.
They wouldn't use that persons genuine passport or name.
They wouldn't risk carrying a person over the borders without documentation, unless there was no chance of them being discovered.
They wouldn't use that persons genuine passport or name.
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vaguely1 wrote:but I guess they would either have someone hidden, or they would have a ready made passport in case.
They wouldn't risk carrying a person over the borders without documentation, unless there was no chance of them being discovered.
They wouldn't use that persons genuine passport or name.
Depends on how many borders they had to pass. And how soon after the event.
But somehow I doubt that's what's happened.
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No, I don't think that's what happened either. I just think writing it off on the basis of not having her passport is a bit silly.
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vaguely1 wrote:WOODWARD wrote:Poor choice of word I agree,nothing is impossible but it shows bad planning on the part of the organised international kidnapping gang who were taking a specific child to order and watching the group for days - back to the random chance abductor on foot with no plan at all I suppose and Dave EDGARS dens within a 10 mile radius-but no easy exit with a passport
no gang in their right might would move a child around using their own passport.
I wouldn't have thought so that would seem a bit like shouting coo-eee we're over here when surely the intention would be to get the child to where they wanted her without being caught.
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vaguely1 wrote:No, I don't think that's what happened either. I just think writing it off on the basis of not having her passport is a bit silly.
A bit like Amarals all encompassing theory that the front door could not have been used because it needs a key.
Oh dear Amaral,
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Must have been a bugger when they went off on holiday with only 3 passports,.
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No passport is needed to move anywhere in the EU countries, other than to and from the UK adn possibly Ireland. You can go from Portugal to Bulgaria, Italy, Greece or anywhere else in the EU without needing a passport, there are no longer any borders this is all part of Schengen treaty
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
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Passports also would not need to be checked if moving around by boat
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saj wrote:Passports also would not need to be checked if moving around by boat
Not if they didn't know you had a child holed up in a camper van or similar
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