Re: CADAVER DOGS BACK IN THE NEWS

by jd 30.05.12 19:49

And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.

by friedtomatoes 30.05.12 19:57

jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.

eddie had a100% record and no false alerts
mr grimes new dog is morse i think
eddie is retired now i think, dont know why

by **PeterMac** 30.05.12 23:04

jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.

Just try to imagine how much it costs to take two dogs and their handler to the USA, keep them there for however long, and then fly them back.
And ask why they would do this if they were "notoriously unreliable." ?

Police officers know more than they let on.
Look at the Derby case and the Coulson case on the other threads.

We loved it when people thought we are stupid. It made our lives so much easier. If people have low expectations, then they can be pleasantly surprised when you do something good.
I speak as a retired cop.
BSc, LLB, MA (actually !)

by friedtomatoes 30.05.12 23:11

PeterMac wrote:
jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.
Just try to imagine how much it costs to take two dogs and their handler to the USA, keep them there for however long, and then fly them back.
And ask why they would do this if they were "notoriously unreliable." ?

Police officers know more than they let on.
Look at the Derby case and the Coulson case on the other threads.

We loved it when people thought we are stupid. It made our lives so much easier. If people have low expectations, then they can be pleasantly surprised when you do something good.
I speak as a retired cop.
BSc, LLB, MA (actually !)

pmsl brill!!

by Guest 30.05.12 23:20

Mariita wrote:Along with the new ageprogressed picture on Madeleine, I found some things strange in the article: It mentions 3 sightings (of the presumed abductor), the persons who reported having seen someone carrying a child are not known to each other,therefore 3 independent witnesses. The police in Portugal has a phantompicture based on these witnesses descriptions, that has never before been published, but apparently they will soon... I only know of the Jane Tanner sighting and the Smith sighting. Or do they maybe have that man in mind, the one who drove in his car early in the morning on the 4th and saw a couple with a child?? Then they wrote about the reconstruction, it will finally be made with the people who were there when it happened. To me it sounds like the tapasgroup. Furthermore, and the reason why I chose this topic to post in, I read that neither the cadaverdog nor the blood-dog alerted anywhere!!!! The specialised dogs were taken in, but due to this article the dogs showed no sign at all.

This is so strange. These obvious lies that so easy can be revealed as what they are-just lies. I mean, some people that insist the McCanns are innocent, say that the dogs can´t be relied, they make mistakes etc.But no one can hardly deny that they barked at certain places.

I don´t know how many of you are familiar with the german language, here´s the link http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/maddie-mccann/fuenf-gruende-warum-sie-vielleicht-noch-lebt-23853804.bild.html

Zeitliche Lücken: Scotland-Yard-Ermittler haben festgestellt, dass
der Abend, an dem Maddie verschwand, noch nicht lückenlos rekonstruiert
wurde. Mit einem neuen Zeugenaufruf hofft die Polizei, die Zeitlücken zu
schließen.• Kombination ALLER Ermittlungsergebnisse
Aus der Kombination ALLER Spuren hofft die Polizei auf den Durchbruch.
Translated:
Time hole (?) SY officials have established that the evening Madeleine disappeared has not been reconstructed without time holes. (i.e. not in sequence, without blanks in it) The police are hopeful to close the gaps with a new call for witnessess to come forward.
The police intend to combine ALL findings. They are hoping for a breakthrough combining ALL leads (traces)

by jd 31.05.12 1:09

PeterMac wrote:
jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.
Just try to imagine how much it costs to take two dogs and their handler to the USA, keep them there for however long, and then fly them back.
And ask why they would do this if they were "notoriously unreliable." ?

Police officers know more than they let on.
Look at the Derby case and the Coulson case on the other threads.

We loved it when people thought we are stupid. It made our lives so much easier. If people have low expectations, then they can be pleasantly surprised when you do something good.
I speak as a retired cop.
BSc, LLB, MA (actually !)

I sincerely hope you are right PM, I do hold the very most utmost respect for you and your knowledge and experience without any shadow of doubt, I can see this vey clearly. Deep down I hope what you believe is the case despite what I say, nothing would make me feel happier. However, I strongly believe that in everything in life "action speaks louder than words" and after 5 years in this case I have not seen the British police (or anyone British) act in any way to bring the right justice to Maddie and have done instead everything in their power to do the exact opposite to hinder and derail the truth from all angles, and in 2012 are now coming out with the most stupid of things I have ever heard of and aligned to the most pathetic. We have Andy Redwood who was told what to do re Jill Dando as it was a Serbian mafia hit man who killed her which I know from fact so know how he will do as told. I am not disputing his abilities as he has proven with the murderor he tracked down to Spain but regardless of his abilities he will, as proven to me, do what his his brief is and not be courageous enough to do what is right. Then we have Bernard Hogan Howe. So not looking very good from the top of this SY review

fried tomatoes you may think "pmsl and think its brill" but isn't this just simply an immature response? PM, I really hope you are right (and I am wrong) and the ridiculous way SY are portraying themselves in this review is a smoke screen to catch the celebrity child neglecters out, but until actions speaks then I can only judge the police involved in the review on their past experiences together with what they are actually doing right now, which is not looking good for justice for Maddie whatsoever

by espeland 01.06.12 23:51

the ridiculous way SY are portraying themselves in this review is a smoke screen to catch the celebrity child neglecters out

But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.

by **PeterMac** 02.06.12 7:24

espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.

Yet.

by **tigger** 02.06.12 9:00

PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.

I refuse to believe the team of operation Grange has room temperature IQ. If we can work it out, so can they, having far more experience with criminals and lies. I they do have a remit to exclude the parents from any wrongdoing - it must be a huge insult to their intelligence and experience.

Do we now have two highly experienced and highly educated police forces who are not allowed to find the truth? One was an investigation, this is a review with a presumed outcome for the CPS to decide on prosecution.

Well, there's nothing for it but to wait - hopefully without any of the circus initiated by Panorama.

by Guest 02.06.12 9:47

Another case where the father is standing trial for murder of his daughter Bianca, with no body and cadaver dog finding scent in closet...........

May 30, 2012 10:50 AM

D'Andre Lane, father of missing 2-year-old Bianca Jones, to stand trial for murder

By
Casey Glynn
Topics
Daily Blotter

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D'Andre Lane (left) and Bianca Jones
(Credit: Oakland County Sheriff's Dept./CBS Detroit) (CBS/WWJ) DETROIT - D'Andre Lane, the father of missing 2-year-old Detroit girl Bianca Jones, will stand trial in his daughter's presumed murder.

On Tuesday, 36th District Court Judge Ruth Carter announced she found there was enough evidence to continue with the trial, CBS Detroit reports. Carter said she was struck by the testimony of Bianca's 8-year-old sister, Il'Andra, who said Bianca didn't move or make any noise when she usually did in her sleep.

"That's what struck me about Il'Andra's testimony, was that she noticed that BB (Bianca) never got out of bed, that she never saw BB moving around. And then her father went to get BB after they were in the car and brought her out covered, and then she remained covered when they were in the car," Carter said, according to CBS Detroit.

Lane has pleaded not guilty to charges of child abuse and murder in connection to the Bianca's disappearance. Prosecutors say the toddler, whose body was never found, was abused on the day of her disappearance. Lane denies that he has anything to do with the disappearance and claims his daughter was taken during a carjacking in early December.

According to Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy, an extensive investigation determined that there was no carjacking.

A cadaver dog trainer testified that one of his dogs hit on the scent of decomposition in the closet of the children's room at Lanes' home. However, Bianca's body has not been found.

Lane's trial is expected to begin June 5.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57443513-504083/dandre-lane-father-of-missing-2-year-old-bianca-jones-to-stand-trial-for-murder/

by Spaniel 02.06.12 11:45

PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.

If there's any suspicion surely NSY would have closed the fund. There'll be uproar if donators find the fund was fraudulent and yet was allowed to continue. Even to announce it was to be closed until after the review should have been sufficient. They no longer need it now anyway since a police force is searching for a live Madeleine.

by Liz Eagles 02.06.12 11:52

Spaniel wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.
If there's any suspicion surely NSY would have closed the fund. There'll be uproar if donators find the fund was fraudulent and yet was allowed to continue. Even to announce it was to be closed until after the review should have been sufficient. They no longer need it now anyway since a police force is searching for a live Madeleine.

I'm not sure SY have the power to close the fund and why would they do that anyway in the throes of an investigation? IMO it is for the Mc's to take the decision to close the fund although I doubt they will even when the UK taxpayers are funding an SY 'on demand' review/investigation. What will TM do after that has been concluded? whinge about SY?

by **PeterMac** 02.06.12 12:49

Closing the "Fund" would be far too obvious. It is the one thing which is on English soil and under English jurisdiction. To unravel the extent of the various Directors' knowledge and complicity, the apparent negligence of the lawyers and auditors is a long job, and for a Fraud investigation team. For the moment better to let it run.

by Spaniel 02.06.12 12:55

aquila wrote:
Spaniel wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.
If there's any suspicion surely NSY would have closed the fund. There'll be uproar if donators find the fund was fraudulent and yet was allowed to continue. Even to announce it was to be closed until after the review should have been sufficient. They no longer need it now anyway since a police force is searching for a live Madeleine.

I'm not sure SY have the power to close the fund and why would they do that anyway in the throes of an investigation? IMO it is for the Mc's to take the decision to close the fund although I doubt they will even when the UK taxpayers are funding an SY 'on demand' review/investigation. What will TM do after that has been concluded? whinge about SY?

You are likely correct on the legalities aquila, but that fund does get my back up! It shouldn't, as I've not donated but I can't stand meanness with money, especially when it's other people's money. I simply don't understand how they can still accept donations, the greedy pair.

by Guest 02.06.12 16:19

Here is HiDeHo's video...........

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