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by Guest 05.03.11 11:02

Katherina Gaspar is a GP who is married to a GP and has 2 young children.

On the 16th May, less than 2 weeks after Madeleine disappeared, she felt compelled to come forward and speak to Leicestershire Police, concerning David Payne and Gerry McCann's quite sickening behaviour in the past.

Leicestershire Police deliberately witheld this information from the Portuguese Police until after Goncalo Amaral had been dismissed from the case.

Katherina's husband and Kate McCann both attended Dundee University at the same time. They all met up as friends about 3 times a year and even had weekends away with each other. "I would say that we became intimate friends", claims Katherina.

In 2005, they all holidayed together in Majorca, along with Dave and Fiona Payne. She recalls:

“I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don’t remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like, she, referring to Madeleine, would do this. When he mentioned this, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing”.

“I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions”.

“I have never spoken to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn’t something that should be done or said”.

“Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, though I’m not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that his daughter would behave or would do it”.

“I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different way from me or from the others. I imagined that maybe he had visited Internet sites related to small children. In short, I thought that he might be interested in child pornography on the internet”.

“During the holiday, I was more attentive at the bath times after hearing Dave say that. It was the fathers who took care of the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close to the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the children. I remember telling my husband to take care and to be there, in case it was Dave helping to bathe the children and, in particular, my daughter. I was very clear about this, as having heard him say that had disturbed me, and I did not trust him to bath my daughter alone”.

“When I heard Dave say that a second time, it reinforced what I already thought in relation to his thoughts about girls”.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

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