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The German authorities,in this instance Wolters, and the press keep saying Brueckner was sentenced or charge with various offences over past years but escaped justice by leaving the country - and going to Portugal, apparently.
Then offending in Portugal and running off back to Germany to escape justice. What a muddy bluddle.
Bit slap-dash isn't it, don't the German's have better control over convicted criminals?
Then offending in Portugal and running off back to Germany to escape justice. What a muddy bluddle.
Bit slap-dash isn't it, don't the German's have better control over convicted criminals?
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Now it's Clarence Mitchell's turn to speak, about the many burglaries in and around the Ocean Club complex in the year 2007.
It was all the fault of the Portuguese because they didn't investigate the burglaries.
Now Sandra F says the problem was, like all other crimes committed by Brueckner, the Portuguese didn't investigate the burglaries.
Was he convicted or not?
Now I've got a numb bum.
It was all the fault of the Portuguese because they didn't investigate the burglaries.
Now Sandra F says the problem was, like all other crimes committed by Brueckner, the Portuguese didn't investigate the burglaries.
Was he convicted or not?
Now I've got a numb bum.
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We've now moved on to the concrete evidence in the possession of German authorities..
1. The telephone mast ping.
Bilton: How do you know that places him outside the Ocean Club and not the other side of town.
Wolters: I can't say this exactly at the moment
Bilton: But just to be sure, do you know he was near the Ocean Club, are you sure
Wolters: We 'think' so, yes
Bilton: So you are able from the transmitter data to establish he was outside the Ocean Club
Wolter: Yes
Bilton: He took a phone call?
Wolters: Yes
Bilton: He took a phone call, well who called him?
Wolters: We don't know, we know only the number
Bilton: How important is that to you
Wolters: Very important to us, very important. It's a big puzzle and we have to .. err .. some pieces, some important pieces but some pieces are .. err. missed, so we have to find many pieces as we could get, so the picture will .. erm .. be ..erm .. complete.
2. Something Brueckner did the day after Madeleine McCann disappear.
He transferred his cars registration to a friend (pictured the infamous Jaguar that may or may not have housed the missing video camera).
Lord 'Arry - enter Busching and Seyferth. Might have guessed they'd make a guest appearance.
The witnesses statement (?) says .... 'well, she didn't scream'
So a passing comment that could well be a question - 'she didn't scream?' is for this production turned into a statement of fact !?!
1. The telephone mast ping.
Bilton: How do you know that places him outside the Ocean Club and not the other side of town.
Wolters: I can't say this exactly at the moment
Bilton: But just to be sure, do you know he was near the Ocean Club, are you sure
Wolters: We 'think' so, yes
Bilton: So you are able from the transmitter data to establish he was outside the Ocean Club
Wolter: Yes
Bilton: He took a phone call?
Wolters: Yes
Bilton: He took a phone call, well who called him?
Wolters: We don't know, we know only the number
Bilton: How important is that to you
Wolters: Very important to us, very important. It's a big puzzle and we have to .. err .. some pieces, some important pieces but some pieces are .. err. missed, so we have to find many pieces as we could get, so the picture will .. erm .. be ..erm .. complete.
2. Something Brueckner did the day after Madeleine McCann disappear.
He transferred his cars registration to a friend (pictured the infamous Jaguar that may or may not have housed the missing video camera).
Lord 'Arry - enter Busching and Seyferth. Might have guessed they'd make a guest appearance.
The witnesses statement (?) says .... 'well, she didn't scream'
So a passing comment that could well be a question - 'she didn't scream?' is for this production turned into a statement of fact !?!
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How is he getting away with such unprofessional behaviour?Silentscope wrote:Interviewer to HCW in the Video.
And you know where she died?
HCW: Maybe. Followed by a duping delight type smirk.
Anywhere BUT inside Apartment 5A you mean Hans?
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So, the main piece of evidence linking CB to Madeleine’s disappearance is a phone pinging nearby (but without exact location being know).
If phone’s are that important to the investigation then maybe they should ask why so many messages and call logs from the Tapas 9 were deleted. That would be the next logical route to go down. Unless, of course, it’s a blatant cover up from on high.
If phone’s are that important to the investigation then maybe they should ask why so many messages and call logs from the Tapas 9 were deleted. That would be the next logical route to go down. Unless, of course, it’s a blatant cover up from on high.
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No mention of Eddie and Keela then ?
Here Wolters " thinks " a lot , has bits and pieces of " evidence " but not all joined together yet then ?
His " concrete " has completely crumbled he's showing himself to be a buffoon !
Poor Madeleine .
Here Wolters " thinks " a lot , has bits and pieces of " evidence " but not all joined together yet then ?
His " concrete " has completely crumbled he's showing himself to be a buffoon !
Poor Madeleine .
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It look's very much like the Portuguese police are very much distancing themselves from Dr. Amaral.
Apart from the apology, nothing else has changed in relation to Brueckner.
Apart from the apology, nothing else has changed in relation to Brueckner.
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sandancer wrote:No mention of Eddie and Keela then ?
Here Wolters " thinks " a lot , has bits and pieces of " evidence " but not all joined together yet then ?
His " concrete " has completely crumbled he's showing himself to be a buffoon !
Poor Madeleine .
Would you believe Eddie and Keela are mentioned in the Panorama mockuplenty, of course not by Wolters but thingy Bilton, it's half way through where I stopped watching earlier - half an hour of junk is enough for me in one session. I've just gone back to say what's said and the video has died on me. I took a screenshot of this before it died..
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The show is up and running again, Bilton says nothing about the dog search but it's reason for making the McCanns PRIME SUSPECTS !!!.
We then have video coverage of their arrival at the station for questioning early September 2007 (the McCanns that is, not the dogs) - it's a goody because you can clearly hear locals gathered to watch the scene hissing and booing.
Oooops.
We then have video coverage of their arrival at the station for questioning early September 2007 (the McCanns that is, not the dogs) - it's a goody because you can clearly hear locals gathered to watch the scene hissing and booing.
Oooops.
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Portuguese police apologise to Madeleine McCann’s parents
Gerry and Kate McCann met officers in London
Isambard Wilkinson, Madrid
Monday October 30 2023, 10.15am GMT, The Times
Kate and Gerry McCann were accused by Portuguese police of kidnapping their daughter
AP PHOTO/SANG TAN
More than 16 years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal, the country’s police have offered an apology to her parents for the way they handled the case and accusing them of staging her kidnapping.
A delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year, the BBC reported, although Portuguese media said that Luis Neves, the national director of the national criminal investigation police agency of Portugal, denied that there was an apology. He acknowledged that there was contact between the investigators and the parents.
The McCann family has not commented on the apology and their daughter’s disappearance remains unsolved.
In September 2007, four months after Madeleine, 3, vanished, Kate and Gerry McCann were made suspects in the Portuguese investigation. Both were questioned by detectives, who believed they had staged an abduction and concealed Madeleine’s body. The McCanns have always denied any wrongdoing.
The McCanns — named arguidos, or formal suspects — were finally cleared in July 2008, when the Portuguese police investigation was shelved because of lack of evidence.
Portuguese police said their initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents’ position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated. They also said they had briefed the McCanns on their ongoing investigation.
In 2015, the couple won more than £350,000 in libel damages over allegations that they were involved in the disappearance of their daughter. Separately, they were also awarded £550,000 in damages for false allegations against them published by Express Newspapers in the UK.
Gonçalo Amaral, a Portuguese detective, claimed in his book and a documentary that they had covered up Madeleine’s death after she went missing in Praia da Luz, a holiday resort in the Algarve.
A Lisbon court ruled that Amaral should pay the McCanns €250,000 (£179,000) each in damages, and has banned further sales of his book, The Truth of the Lie.
Amaral, who led the initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, released his book three days after the case was closed in July 2008. He later took part in a documentary for Portuguese television in which he claimed that Madeleine was dead, that there had been no abduction and that the McCanns had hidden her body.
Gerry and Kate McCann, a cardiologist and former GP, won a ruling in Lisbon in 2010 to ban sales of the book, which was overturned later the same year. They also launched a libel action against Amaral, who was sacked from the investigation after months of blunders — claiming that they and their family had suffered emotional and psychological harm as a result of his claims.
Giving evidence at the Palace of Justice in Lisbon in 2014, the couple spoke of their “devastation, desperation, anxiety and pain” over the allegations. They also maintained that the book and documentary had reduced support from the Portuguese people as they searched for their daughter. They accused Amaral of defamation, of breaching their human rights and of being a “self-obsessed, manipulative money-grabber”.
The McCann’s libel case against the former detective over the claims he made about them in his book was thrown out by the Portuguese supreme court. The couple appealed to the European Court of Human Rights but lost that challenge in September 2022.
Efforts to prosecute Christian Brueckner, a convicted rapist suspected of abducting and killing Madeleine, for five other offences restarted last month after a ruling in a German court.
The case against Brueckner was thrown into doubt after a court in Braunschweig ruled in April that it had no responsibility for hearing the new trial because Brueckner’s last place of residence was a dilapidated farm in another part of Germany rather than in Braunschweig, where he had lived previously.
That would have left it up to a court in the state of Saxony-Anhalt to prosecute Brueckner, leading to speculation over the impact of any delay on a possible future trial over Madeleine’s disappearance.
But a higher regional court ruled that the Braunschweig court did have jurisdiction, following an appeal by the Braunschweig state prosecutor’s office, which has been investigating Brueckner over the alleged abduction of Madeleine and for other violent offences.
As a result, Brueckner, 46, who is serving a seven-year sentence for rape, can be prosecuted on five other charges, all of which he denied — including the alleged rape of a 14-year-old German girl and allegedly molesting an 11-year-old girl at a folk festival.
Brueckner has always denied any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. The Braunschweig prosecutor’s office has yet to gather enough evidence to file charges against Brueckner over Madeleine’s disappearance.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/madeleine-mccann-parents-apology-portuguese-police-c5drv6gh5
Gerry and Kate McCann met officers in London
Isambard Wilkinson, Madrid
Monday October 30 2023, 10.15am GMT, The Times
Kate and Gerry McCann were accused by Portuguese police of kidnapping their daughter
AP PHOTO/SANG TAN
More than 16 years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal, the country’s police have offered an apology to her parents for the way they handled the case and accusing them of staging her kidnapping.
A delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year, the BBC reported, although Portuguese media said that Luis Neves, the national director of the national criminal investigation police agency of Portugal, denied that there was an apology. He acknowledged that there was contact between the investigators and the parents.
The McCann family has not commented on the apology and their daughter’s disappearance remains unsolved.
In September 2007, four months after Madeleine, 3, vanished, Kate and Gerry McCann were made suspects in the Portuguese investigation. Both were questioned by detectives, who believed they had staged an abduction and concealed Madeleine’s body. The McCanns have always denied any wrongdoing.
The McCanns — named arguidos, or formal suspects — were finally cleared in July 2008, when the Portuguese police investigation was shelved because of lack of evidence.
Portuguese police said their initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents’ position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated. They also said they had briefed the McCanns on their ongoing investigation.
In 2015, the couple won more than £350,000 in libel damages over allegations that they were involved in the disappearance of their daughter. Separately, they were also awarded £550,000 in damages for false allegations against them published by Express Newspapers in the UK.
Gonçalo Amaral, a Portuguese detective, claimed in his book and a documentary that they had covered up Madeleine’s death after she went missing in Praia da Luz, a holiday resort in the Algarve.
A Lisbon court ruled that Amaral should pay the McCanns €250,000 (£179,000) each in damages, and has banned further sales of his book, The Truth of the Lie.
Amaral, who led the initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance, released his book three days after the case was closed in July 2008. He later took part in a documentary for Portuguese television in which he claimed that Madeleine was dead, that there had been no abduction and that the McCanns had hidden her body.
Gerry and Kate McCann, a cardiologist and former GP, won a ruling in Lisbon in 2010 to ban sales of the book, which was overturned later the same year. They also launched a libel action against Amaral, who was sacked from the investigation after months of blunders — claiming that they and their family had suffered emotional and psychological harm as a result of his claims.
Giving evidence at the Palace of Justice in Lisbon in 2014, the couple spoke of their “devastation, desperation, anxiety and pain” over the allegations. They also maintained that the book and documentary had reduced support from the Portuguese people as they searched for their daughter. They accused Amaral of defamation, of breaching their human rights and of being a “self-obsessed, manipulative money-grabber”.
The McCann’s libel case against the former detective over the claims he made about them in his book was thrown out by the Portuguese supreme court. The couple appealed to the European Court of Human Rights but lost that challenge in September 2022.
Efforts to prosecute Christian Brueckner, a convicted rapist suspected of abducting and killing Madeleine, for five other offences restarted last month after a ruling in a German court.
The case against Brueckner was thrown into doubt after a court in Braunschweig ruled in April that it had no responsibility for hearing the new trial because Brueckner’s last place of residence was a dilapidated farm in another part of Germany rather than in Braunschweig, where he had lived previously.
That would have left it up to a court in the state of Saxony-Anhalt to prosecute Brueckner, leading to speculation over the impact of any delay on a possible future trial over Madeleine’s disappearance.
But a higher regional court ruled that the Braunschweig court did have jurisdiction, following an appeal by the Braunschweig state prosecutor’s office, which has been investigating Brueckner over the alleged abduction of Madeleine and for other violent offences.
As a result, Brueckner, 46, who is serving a seven-year sentence for rape, can be prosecuted on five other charges, all of which he denied — including the alleged rape of a 14-year-old German girl and allegedly molesting an 11-year-old girl at a folk festival.
Brueckner has always denied any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. The Braunschweig prosecutor’s office has yet to gather enough evidence to file charges against Brueckner over Madeleine’s disappearance.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/madeleine-mccann-parents-apology-portuguese-police-c5drv6gh5
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PJ police confirm “steps continuing” in case of missing Madeleine McCann
By Natasha Donn - 30th October 2023
Detectives have reportedly “apologised” for handling of case
In a statement issued today, Portugal’s PJ judicial police have clarified that “steps are continuing” as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, “to fully clarify the situation”.
The statement comes after the BBC in UK reports that “Portuguese police have apologised to the parents of Madeleine McCann for the way they handled the three-year-old’s disappearance”.
None of this is mentioned in the PJ statement, which simply explains “that, as part of the investigation into the disappearance of an English child in the Algarve in 2007, steps are continuing to be taken to fully clarify the situation”.
The short text continues: “In this context, and as has been made public in due course, in close liaison with the German (BKA) and English (Metropolitan Police) authorities, formal investigation and forensic tests have been carried out in Portugal and abroad, as well as sharing information and revisiting testimonies.
“As is also normal in this type of situation and in line with good practice, face-to-face contacts were made with the relatives of the missing child, providing – only – the procedural situation within the scope of the ongoing inquiry pending before the Faro District Public Prosecutor’s Office”.
According to the BBC, “a delegation of senior officers travelled from Lisbon to London earlier this year. They met Gerry McCann, Madeleine’s father, and apologised for the way detectives investigated the case and treated the family.
“The McCann family has not commented on the apology and their daughter’s disappearance remains unsolved.
“Portuguese police now say their initial investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was not handled properly, there was insufficient importance given at the time to missing children and that her parents’ position as foreigners in an environment they did not understand was not appreciated”, the BBC’s report goes on.
Anyone who remembers those days and weeks following Madeleine’s disappearance will recall the massive press pack camped in Praia da Luz, and the apparent extreme importance given by authorities, both Portuguese and British, to the child’s disappearance. Thus why this reference to “insufficient importance” comes now – 16 years after the little girl went missing without apparent trace – is unclear. There do not appear to be any new leads in this mystery in spite of the flurry of activity around the Arade dam earlier this year.
Reiterating that the Portuguese police “have now admitted that the investigation was not conducted correctly”, the BBC’s report ends with the information that “after years of investigation, Portuguese officers this year backed the German authorities, who believe that German Christian Brueckner (sic) murdered the child”.
This is something that Mr Brückner himself has consistently denied.
The BBC’s report concludes that “Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor in the case, welcomed Portugal’s apology, saying: “It’s a good sign. It shows that there is progress in the McCann case in Portugal”.
Again this observation is not immediately borne out by the content of the PJ statement.
https://www.portugalresident.com/pj-police-confirm-steps-continuing-in-case-of-missing-madeleine-mccann/
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That's two out of 3, just need the Met statement now.
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What a load of old tosh, waste of 60 minutes that you'll never get back with all the old Team Mc rolled out - Mitchell, Corner, Edgar, Dogs Sandra etc etc
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Where is this apology? Is there any evidence of it?
If an apology has been made, where has it come from?
Amaral's team who worked on the initial investigation?
The review team in Portimao who were allegedly working with the met?
One corrupt Portuguese officer
or is this just media spin?
"We think"?
We don't really know?
Why not, "we have strong evidence to suggest"?
If an apology has been made, where has it come from?
Amaral's team who worked on the initial investigation?
The review team in Portimao who were allegedly working with the met?
One corrupt Portuguese officer
or is this just media spin?
Verity wrote:"We think that he was involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and we think that he murdered Madeleine McCann," Mr Wolters said.
"We think"?
We don't really know?
Why not, "we have strong evidence to suggest"?
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Well whether there was an apology or not, something seems to be happening.
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crusader wrote:Well whether there was an apology or not, something seems to be happening.
A final coverup?
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If we can believe what's been said, it certainly looks like Portugal, Germany and the Met are up to something, why now after all this time.
We will have to wait and see if there is any more about it in the next few day's.
It's not a coincidence the statements are released on the same day as the Panorama film is released.
We will have to wait and see if there is any more about it in the next few day's.
It's not a coincidence the statements are released on the same day as the Panorama film is released.
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crusader wrote:If we can believe what's been said, it certainly looks like Portugal, Germany and the Met are up to something, why now after all this time.
We will have to wait and see if there is any more about it in the next few day's.
It's not a coincidence the statements are released on the same day as the Panorama film is released.
It has always been about the media and making documentaries. Maybe the big question should be not, what happened to Madeleine McCann, but why?
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Rogue-a-Tory wrote:What a load of old tosh, waste of 60 minutes that you'll never get back with all the old Team Mc rolled out - Mitchell, Corner, Edgar, Dogs Sandra etc etc
Amen - post of the day!
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Mark Williams-Thomas breaks wind again..
'Go find the evidence and charge him, or shut up!' | Former Cop gives warning to German prosecutor
I'll give him one thing, at least he rubbishes Wolters version of events.
'Go find the evidence and charge him, or shut up!' | Former Cop gives warning to German prosecutor
I'll give him one thing, at least he rubbishes Wolters version of events.
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crusader wrote:Well whether there was an apology or not, something seems to be happening.
Nothing is happening, it's just media spin .
GB News refer to the Panorama show as a bombshell documentary - how can it be a bombshell when it's nothing but a compilation of past media/press spin.
You thought the media/press to be bad news - you ain't sen nothing yet. Cast your eyes in the direction of the Middle East, in polite society I think it's called propaganda.
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A lot of the programme looked like "Jon Clarke - the Musical"
same old tosh trotted out, and no examination of any facts worthy of the name.
The dogs were shown, but ignored, as was the Pool photo, and so far as I could see no mention of the endless conflicting stories from the main suspects.
Just Wolters saying in effect he 'thinks' he 'might' have enough evidence to go head next year. (Where have we seen that before, two years ago. Oh Yes, The Olive Press !)
And although they mentioned the case against Amaral, no mention of the fact that they lost,
lost again,
lost again,
and then lost finally.
same old tosh trotted out, and no examination of any facts worthy of the name.
The dogs were shown, but ignored, as was the Pool photo, and so far as I could see no mention of the endless conflicting stories from the main suspects.
Just Wolters saying in effect he 'thinks' he 'might' have enough evidence to go head next year. (Where have we seen that before, two years ago. Oh Yes, The Olive Press !)
And although they mentioned the case against Amaral, no mention of the fact that they lost,
lost again,
lost again,
and then lost finally.
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I am sure John Coxon will forgive me for copying his FB post over to here.
What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann
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Sent to the BBC................
Morning,
Perhaps in the interests of balance the BBC could produce another mockumentary explaining the following.
1/ why on earth the PJ should "apologise" for merely doing their jobs - I'm reliably informed they did no such thing ,yet another lie in a rainforest full of them told by our entirely corrupt media in this case.
2/ Why they should ignore multiple cadaver and blood dog findings against the Mccanns.
3/ why they should ignore the multiple conflicting timelines given out by the parents and company.
4/ why they should ignore an independent witness describing a Gerry McCann doppelgänger carrying a "deeply unconscious" blonde child down the street.
5/ why they should ignore the Mccanns failing to disclose this information.
6/ why they should ignore one of their private detectives, a former corrupt police officer who was jailed for importing millions of pounds worth of cocaine admitting he was paid to bribe people to claim they had seen Maddie.
7/ how they can explain doing anything which could clearly prejudice and severely inhibit future criminal proceedings in this case.
8/ How they can claim to have a neutral position in this case when there are several documented links to the Jill Dando case.
9/ You know, Jill Dando who was murdered after she handed in a list if paedophiles who were variously employed at the BBC.
10/ Perhaps it could explain what it knew of the activities of Clement Freud - you know, Clement Freud the Mccanns best buddy, rapist, paedophile who walked the corridors of the BBC for decades.
11/ Perhaps the BBC could interview dr Mark Perlin who has offered to resolve the DNA samples in the case for nothing and could ask the Met why they have refused to speak to him or why they have ignored dozens of complaints in regards to this
12/ Perhaps it can explain how it prefers to speculate on the involvement of some random German drifter with zero real evidence he had anything to do with this, whilst completely ignoring the above.
I'm an ex cop, I'll quite happily go on air and spout some alternative "theories " on the McCann case.
Hopefully, soon it will no longer be a crime to not pay the licence fee.
Why on earth should anyone have to pay to watch this pathetic propagandist tripe ?
Perverting the course of justice and state corruption remain crimes.
You are beyond a joke and a total and utter disgrace.
Hopefully a nasty German nonce will sue the pants off you.
Happy Tuesday
A concerned citizen awaiting justice.
What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann
John Coxon · 33 m ·
Sent to the BBC................
Morning,
Perhaps in the interests of balance the BBC could produce another mockumentary explaining the following.
1/ why on earth the PJ should "apologise" for merely doing their jobs - I'm reliably informed they did no such thing ,yet another lie in a rainforest full of them told by our entirely corrupt media in this case.
2/ Why they should ignore multiple cadaver and blood dog findings against the Mccanns.
3/ why they should ignore the multiple conflicting timelines given out by the parents and company.
4/ why they should ignore an independent witness describing a Gerry McCann doppelgänger carrying a "deeply unconscious" blonde child down the street.
5/ why they should ignore the Mccanns failing to disclose this information.
6/ why they should ignore one of their private detectives, a former corrupt police officer who was jailed for importing millions of pounds worth of cocaine admitting he was paid to bribe people to claim they had seen Maddie.
7/ how they can explain doing anything which could clearly prejudice and severely inhibit future criminal proceedings in this case.
8/ How they can claim to have a neutral position in this case when there are several documented links to the Jill Dando case.
9/ You know, Jill Dando who was murdered after she handed in a list if paedophiles who were variously employed at the BBC.
10/ Perhaps it could explain what it knew of the activities of Clement Freud - you know, Clement Freud the Mccanns best buddy, rapist, paedophile who walked the corridors of the BBC for decades.
11/ Perhaps the BBC could interview dr Mark Perlin who has offered to resolve the DNA samples in the case for nothing and could ask the Met why they have refused to speak to him or why they have ignored dozens of complaints in regards to this
12/ Perhaps it can explain how it prefers to speculate on the involvement of some random German drifter with zero real evidence he had anything to do with this, whilst completely ignoring the above.
I'm an ex cop, I'll quite happily go on air and spout some alternative "theories " on the McCann case.
Hopefully, soon it will no longer be a crime to not pay the licence fee.
Why on earth should anyone have to pay to watch this pathetic propagandist tripe ?
Perverting the course of justice and state corruption remain crimes.
You are beyond a joke and a total and utter disgrace.
Hopefully a nasty German nonce will sue the pants off you.
Happy Tuesday
A concerned citizen awaiting justice.
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Re: Portuguese police apologise to Madeleine McCann's parents
Or this from the same FB page.
"Paul James
I have seen many examples of body language (not that I'm an expert) but this particular one from the German Prosecutor is very eye catching indeed, as what people say (positive) is not always reflected in their (negative) facial expressions, revealing quite the paradox; and here is an excellent example of someone playing both sides of the coin.
When being questioned by the reporter, Hans is first asked; “From what you've seen you're sure she's dead?” Hans replies (suddenly looking very uneasy, even slightly unsure) “Yeah!” It's as though he has to think for a moment, whether that is the right answer to give.
However, if his facial unsureness here was an attempt at acting, (while he knows different) as in trying to make people feel he's not that quite sure (what's happened to Madeleine) when he knows more than he is letting on, at this point, he's about on the same level as Kate McCann when trying to feign sadness on the evening of 4 May 2007, very poor acting indeed.
Next, he is asked, “Where was she killed do you think? Was she killed in Portugal or else where?”
Hans replies with immediate confidence, “In Portugal?” His reply here is with the utmost positivity, akin to how Gerry answers questions. This here is a simple case of, 'when you know, you know'.
Thirdly: Hans is asked to confirm again: “She died in Portugal?” Again, Hans replies with complete assuredness, “Yes”.
But when he is then told; “So the Portuguese Police have apologised to the McCann family, for the way they treated the McCann family and for the way they carried out the investigation in the early days.” And is then asked, “What do you think about that?”
In the middle of listening to this question and hearing that the Portuguese have apologised to the McCann's, (apparently the BBC were told they came over to England for a face to face meeting with Gerry and apologised), Hans pulls the most expressive face that signals one of a number of feelings.
Firstly, this face is universally associated with sadness, (feeling sad). The artistic representation of this facial expression is the painting, 'Tears of a Clown'.
Secondly, it is mainly used by children as one of 'over exaggerated' disappointment.
Lastly, it can be read (more so in adults) as 'genuine surprise'. But it is his verbal reply to his expression that makes no sense and it is here he's back in the Kate McCann School of poor acting, as Hans replies, “It's a good sign”.
And it is here that what he is conveying so strongly with his face and then confirming with his verbal line, (“It's a good sign”) is not just completely incompatible, but they are polar opposites. So one or the other is true, but not both! So which is it?
So is Hans genuinely surprised that the Portuguese have travelled to England to apologies face to face with Gerry? And is this a case of, does the right hand really not know what the left hand is doing? With Hans been caught on the hop in the middle of an interview, learning what's happened from a TV reporter rather than hearing this from his counterparts?
Or is this just another case of bad acting? And that he knows more than he is letting on?
It would be very interesting to hear what the Behaviour Panel think of Han's facial expression here, as he hears the Portuguese Police have apologised to the McCanns?
"Paul James
I have seen many examples of body language (not that I'm an expert) but this particular one from the German Prosecutor is very eye catching indeed, as what people say (positive) is not always reflected in their (negative) facial expressions, revealing quite the paradox; and here is an excellent example of someone playing both sides of the coin.
When being questioned by the reporter, Hans is first asked; “From what you've seen you're sure she's dead?” Hans replies (suddenly looking very uneasy, even slightly unsure) “Yeah!” It's as though he has to think for a moment, whether that is the right answer to give.
However, if his facial unsureness here was an attempt at acting, (while he knows different) as in trying to make people feel he's not that quite sure (what's happened to Madeleine) when he knows more than he is letting on, at this point, he's about on the same level as Kate McCann when trying to feign sadness on the evening of 4 May 2007, very poor acting indeed.
Next, he is asked, “Where was she killed do you think? Was she killed in Portugal or else where?”
Hans replies with immediate confidence, “In Portugal?” His reply here is with the utmost positivity, akin to how Gerry answers questions. This here is a simple case of, 'when you know, you know'.
Thirdly: Hans is asked to confirm again: “She died in Portugal?” Again, Hans replies with complete assuredness, “Yes”.
But when he is then told; “So the Portuguese Police have apologised to the McCann family, for the way they treated the McCann family and for the way they carried out the investigation in the early days.” And is then asked, “What do you think about that?”
In the middle of listening to this question and hearing that the Portuguese have apologised to the McCann's, (apparently the BBC were told they came over to England for a face to face meeting with Gerry and apologised), Hans pulls the most expressive face that signals one of a number of feelings.
Firstly, this face is universally associated with sadness, (feeling sad). The artistic representation of this facial expression is the painting, 'Tears of a Clown'.
Secondly, it is mainly used by children as one of 'over exaggerated' disappointment.
Lastly, it can be read (more so in adults) as 'genuine surprise'. But it is his verbal reply to his expression that makes no sense and it is here he's back in the Kate McCann School of poor acting, as Hans replies, “It's a good sign”.
And it is here that what he is conveying so strongly with his face and then confirming with his verbal line, (“It's a good sign”) is not just completely incompatible, but they are polar opposites. So one or the other is true, but not both! So which is it?
So is Hans genuinely surprised that the Portuguese have travelled to England to apologies face to face with Gerry? And is this a case of, does the right hand really not know what the left hand is doing? With Hans been caught on the hop in the middle of an interview, learning what's happened from a TV reporter rather than hearing this from his counterparts?
Or is this just another case of bad acting? And that he knows more than he is letting on?
It would be very interesting to hear what the Behaviour Panel think of Han's facial expression here, as he hears the Portuguese Police have apologised to the McCanns?
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