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Post by Silentscope 07.10.23 18:26

Verdi wrote:Silentscope #193

Would you please post the official link to verify this text.

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Münzstraße 17
38100 Braunschweig
Tel: 0531-488-2374
Fax: 0531-488-2550

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Search Case Number (Aktenzeichen 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22).

E-Mail: lgbs-pressestelle@justiz.niedersachsen.de
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Post by Silentscope 07.10.23 19:11

At the risk of repeating everything Posted above, there are the following slight differences in an Irish report.

1. She said: I had gone to bed around 1am and was awoken by someone calling my name. 01:00

2. There was a distinctive mark on the top of his right thigh, which was either a pull in the tights, a tattoo or a birthmark, she added. German media have described Brueckner, now 43, as having birthmarks on his upper right thigh. No marks found

3. She was then taken to a hospital for a physical examination, but she doesn't know if any forensic evidence was collected.
Ms Behan believes police did not carry out a thorough investigation or search because there was no attempt to examine her wounds for evidence, and one of her fingernails was discovered by her mum in her room several days later.
She had been told to stay quiet about the attack so it wouldn't bring bad publicity to the resort.
She suspects she was being stalked and the suspect had been in her room in the weeks before the rape because money was missing and belongings had been moved. Fingernail but no Scissors, and no half a Palm print on a Knife

4. When she gave a statement to Met Police she was told they were taking her case seriously and they would contact Portuguese police. She said the Met told her that other people had contacted them independently about her attack. Other people?

Source: Chris Kitching 16:59, 9 JUN 2020
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-woman-tied-up-raped-18390796

According to a new TV documentary on German channel Sat.1, he had then picked up one of her kitchen knives to threaten her not to scream. By amazing fortune, the programme will reveal, while he had attempted to clean up the scene he left a partial fingerprint on the knife.

Source:
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/12/24/exclusive-explosive-fingerprint-clue-as-madeleine-mccann-suspect-faces-three-new-charges/
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Post by Guest 07.10.23 20:12

silentscope, that is the old one from last year, there is  no new one in the email i got yesterday.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 07.10.23 20:30

According to the above from last year, he held a knife to her, and told her not to scream. According to a friend of his - I can't remember which one - CB told him, "She didn't scream", and this remark is supposed to refer to Madeleine. I can't help thinking that this last 'testimony' was fed to the friend, to create a connection. Possibly far-fetched, though?
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Post by Verdi 08.10.23 0:49

Silentscope wrote:
Verdi wrote:Silentscope #193

Would you please post the official link to verify this text.

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38100 Braunschweig
Tel: 0531-488-2374
Fax: 0531-488-2550

Source:
http://landgericht-braunschweig.de/

Navigate to all Press releases of Oktober 2020.
Search Case Number  (Aktenzeichen 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22).

E-Mail: lgbs-pressestelle@justiz.niedersachsen.de

Yes, I'm quite capable of locating the official landgericht-braunschweig website but as I asked, would you please post the link to verify the text you originally posted up-page.

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Post by Verdi 08.10.23 1:00

CaKeLoveR wrote:According to the above from last year, he held a knife to her, and told her not to scream. According to a friend of his - I can't remember which one - CB told him, "She didn't scream", and this remark is supposed to  refer to Madeleine. I can't help thinking that this last 'testimony' was fed to the friend, to create a connection.   Possibly far-fetched, though?

goodpost  Of the day!  My thoughts exactly.

It doesn't even require any special effort, just remember or look back on all the press reports about Brueckner since his name first hit the headlines.  There is not a single plausible report worthy of attention, they all contain flimsy references to this and that and not a lot of the other.

Everything correlates from one report to the next, they all pull on alleged quotes, statements, incidents, locations, people, snot, screaming, he said she said - they can't even agree on the alleged criminal record.

Net result .... the rape or not of Hazel Behan and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have no connection what or whosoever with the life and times of Christian Brueckner.

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Post by Silentscope 08.10.23 11:15

onehand wrote:silentscope, that is the old one from last year, there is  no new one in the email i got yesterday.

There will be no further updates until after the ‘Preliminary Hearing’ is over. I do not know what you got as Email.
Can you share?

@Verdi a different but direct Link to the same Page:
https://landgericht-braunschweig.niedersachsen.de/aktuelles/anklageschrift-wg-vergewaltigung-sex-missbrauchs-eingegangen-216160.html

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Post by Verdi 08.10.23 14:38

Thank you @Silentscope

A slightly more coherent translation, without the superfluous information..

Indictment due to Rape, sexual abuse

Created on 12th October 2022

The Braunschweig Regional Court confirms receipt of an indictment from the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office with five acts against sexual self-determination against a 45-year-old accused.

With regard to the content of the accusations, reference is made to the press release from the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office dated October 11, 2022.

The indictment runs more than a hundred pages.

For reasons of the presumption of innocence and the protection of personality, the regional court will not disclose any further details about the specific allegations.

According to the district court's business distribution plan, the 2nd Criminal Chamber is responsible for the proceedings as the youth protection chamber (file number 2 KLs 213 Js 52790/18 (15/22). In the interim proceedings that are now beginning, the 2nd Criminal Chamber will first serve the accused and his defense attorney with the indictment This provides the opportunity to comment on the allegations made by the public prosecutor, to raise objections to the opening of the main proceedings and/or to request evidence.

In the so-called interim proceedings, the chamber examines whether the indictment is admitted and the main proceedings are opened. It is currently not possible to make a forecast regarding the duration of this examination. The court decides to open the main proceedings if, based on the results of the preparatory proceedings, the accused is sufficiently suspected of having committed criminal offenses through his behavior. There is sufficient suspicion of a crime if a later conviction of the accused appears likely based on the admissible evidence available. The interim proceedings end with a decision by the chamber on the opening or non-opening of the main proceedings in the form of a resolution. Only when the court opens the main proceedings

The accused is currently in prison due to a ruling by the Braunschweig Regional Court (file number 1 KLs 71/19, sentence of a total prison sentence of 7 years).

The criminal chamber will still have to decide on the question of issuing an arrest warrant against the accused in this criminal case.

Due to the current busyness of the 2nd Criminal Chamber with main hearing dates in already pending criminal proceedings with so-called detention cases (in which the accused are in custody and detention review dates are due soon), a trial is not expected to begin this year if the main proceedings are opened.

A notice:

As soon as a decision in the interim proceedings has been made, a press release will be issued about it. We ask that you refrain from making any further inquiries as, given the status of the proceedings, no further information about the proceedings is currently being provided by telephone or in writing.

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Post by Guest 08.10.23 22:15

you can get an abo to a lot of german justice portals, i cannot remember if i had to use my press card for this one, or not, but you can try it for your self, some ask for one, some do not. they are not for sharing on fora, but you can share the reports, you gets the links to. you just get a weekly email with the cases that will have a day in court. 

also with the case numbers you can check in the portal what the full route has been. 

but your link and report is one and the same i shared last year and i even think you did already by yourself. 
nothing new in it, it is all about the first try out of der hans. 
there is even one that followed on this one, in that one they made their decision known, that it was okay to charge and arrest cb for the 5 cases. 

that is where the fat print notice is about. all stuff from much earlier, this report is and was published at the ends of 2022, after der hans had his press release about it out. 

it is already 2023. and after this report of the court, they made another that they accepted the case, and there is also one that the defense team made a complaint about competence of the court, and there is even a another one that handled that and that told the braunschweig court was supposed to be competent to handle the 5 cases. 

there will be to be expected a fresh one when a date is set for the preliminary hearing of the case, and to be expected, the defense will again be protesting against this court as the competent one, and i do expect some more before any case ever will make it into the rest of a court case, about the 5 cases itself. or not when the defense wins. 

as you look to have the right online address, you can try to get your own copy of the releases. it is not of much interest for the forum, it is all in german, and usually even very boring stuff. they handle other cases too.
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Post by Verdi 10.10.23 16:32

A few months out of date - May or May not be of interest to the ardent Brueckner devotee.  It was very kindly sent to me, I'm not selfish so will share with you..

panorama
Investigators in trouble

Prosecutor: Charges in the Maddie case “cannot be foreseen”

By Sarah Platz
May 28, 2023, 11:09 a.m

The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office is absolutely certain that they have found the person responsible for the disappearance of little Madeleine McCann. For three years now she has been pleading that Christian B. was the perpetrator - but without proving his guilt.

The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office really took a hard line. “We are 100 percent sure that Christian B. is the murderer we are looking for,” said Hans Christian Wolters from the authority at the end of 2021. At the time, it was the first time that investigators spoke of murder in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. When Wolters and his colleagues made their suspicions against Christian B. public for the first time in June 2020, there seemed to be a breakthrough in the case that had previously seemed hopeless.

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The 46-year-old B., who is currently in custody for another case, is said to be responsible for the crime against Maddie. He is said to have kidnapped the girl from a holiday resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in 2007 and then killed her. The investigators from Braunschweig have been pleading that B. was the perpetrator for three years now, and they are sticking to their suspicions even when asked by ntv.de. However, they have not yet proven the suspect's guilt. As far as is publicly known, there is hardly any new evidence, let alone evidence against the German. Maddie's body was not found either. Where an end to the tormenting uncertainty, especially for the little girl's family, seemed within reach in the summer of 2020, it has become more distant again in the past few months.

The public prosecutor's office could not provide any further information due to ongoing investigations. Wolters emphasizes this again and again, most recently during the major search operation at the Arade reservoir in Portugal. In interviews with British, Portuguese and German media, the public prosecutor always speaks only of "new facts" and "new evidence", other statements even sound cryptic: The evidence only allows the conclusion that Christian B. was the perpetrator, said Wolters Ende 2021 the British “Mirror”.

Because the suspect is already in prison for other crimes, investigators would take their time to collect as much evidence as possible. “We want to charge him with the best possible evidence,” explained the lawyer. The prosecutor's statements almost seem like a promise: Even if it takes a while, Christian B. will end up in the dock in the case of the missing Maddie.
Weak chain of evidence

The suspect's defense attorneys doubt that. “I generally don’t assume there will be any charges,” explains Friedrich Fülscher to ntv.de. For this to happen, the public prosecutor's office would have to be able to establish sufficient suspicion against B. in the Maddie case. The court decides whether to open the main proceedings. The green light is only given if the investigative authority's chain of evidence is so strong that a conviction appears at least likely. According to Fülscher, this is “not the case” given the evidence published so far.

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B. stayed regularly in the Algarve from 1995 to 2007, i.e. at the time of Maddie's disappearance. He repeatedly broke into holiday resorts and hotels there. The man also has a criminal record - for rape, child abuse and possession of child pornography. According to the Federal Criminal Police Office, his cell phone was logged into a cell phone near the McCanns' holiday resort at the time of the crime. He also has no alibi for the evening, as Wolters emphasized several times. All of this undoubtedly makes him suspicious. However, the clues do not establish a specific connection to Maddie.

Contrary to the witness statements. Friends of the suspect claim that he confessed to them about the crime against the little girl. Others claim to have observed suspicious events. Most likely, these people would also incriminate B. before the judge. However, the statements as evidence have a catch: They are the weakest evidence in court - especially if the crime occurred 16 years ago. Memories fade, what was actually experienced blurs into what was heard later, and descriptions are often hardly precise anymore.
“Indication of poverty for the public prosecutor’s office”

Criminal defense lawyer Johann Schwenn, who represents B. together with Fülscher, even speaks in a “Zeit” podcast of a “testimony of poverty for the public prosecutor’s office.” It would give the impression that an indictment in Maddie's case was imminent. At the same time, “she is afraid to allow the alleged suspicions to be discussed during the investigation.”

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Because the investigators are not just keeping a low profile from the public. B.'s defense attorneys also receive no information whatsoever, such as the status of the investigation or the evidence collected against their client. "The public prosecutor's office is still refusing to inspect the files," explains Fülscher. In his opinion, this is illegal - "but unfortunately the Code of Criminal Procedure does not provide for the possibility of taking action against this in the preliminary investigation." In fact, only after the investigation has been completed does the defense attorney have a comprehensive right to inspect the files. Before that, the public prosecutor's office can keep the files secret by citing the protection of its investigations.

This is exactly the argument the Braunschweig authorities are using in Maddie's case, as they explained to ntv.de. For the defense attorney Schwenn, this is difficult to understand in this particular case, especially because of the high media presence. There is “a certain disproportion,” he told “Zeit”. Namely, “between the withholding of the files on the one hand and the public prosecutor’s aggressive media policy on the other.”
Investigators are sticking to the Maddie case

It can hardly be denied that the public pressure on the authorities in the Maddie case is immense. Journalists from all over the world are following the investigations meticulously. Every development - no matter how small - creates a kind of collective hold for breath: Is the end of one of the biggest criminal cases of recent years perhaps imminent? The height of the fall in the Maddie case is therefore huge. Not least because of this, the investigative authority, which is legally obliged to be objective, zeroed in on his client, Schwenn makes clear in the podcast. One could assume, said the defense attorney, "that the Maddie case could develop into the prosecution's Hitler diaries."

Of course, a tense relationship between the prosecution and the defense is not unusual. It is also one of the tasks of a criminal defense attorney to sow doubts about the investigation. Nevertheless, the impression that the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office is sticking to the case and its investigation into B. despite all odds cannot be dismissed. Only recently did the Braunschweig Regional Court decide that the investigative authority was not responsible for B.

The suspect had apparently most recently lived in Saxony-Anhalt and not in Lower Saxony - the public prosecutor's office in Magdeburg would therefore be responsible. However, the people of Braunschweig do not want to accept that. They lodged an appeal against the decision and announced that they would continue to investigate until the Higher Regional Court decided again on jurisdiction.
Turnaround through reservoir investigations?

There may be a good reason why the Braunschweigers continue to investigate despite uncertain competence. Because the investigators are slowly but steadily running out of time. B. will be released from prison in two years. If the investigators' evidence in the Maddie case does not become more solid by then, B. would initially be a free man.

Both the German and Portuguese authorities therefore placed great hope in the recent investigations around the Arade reservoir in the south of Portugal. The trigger was the statement of a "very credible witness" that B. was said to have often been at the lake near the small town of Silves, the newspaper "Expresso" reported. It is said that the investigators were primarily interested in fiber and DNA traces during their search.

They would be an important link in the investigators' chain of evidence, as they are considered the safest evidence in court. Genetic material from B., for example on scraps of Maddie's pajamas, would undoubtedly connect the German with the little girl.

The investigators have now dismantled their tents at the Arade reservoir - the search operation was ended after three days. The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office wants to inform about the results next week. However, it is unlikely that these will lead to a breakthrough and make the chain of evidence against B. strong enough for an indictment. Prosecutor Wolters has already made it clear to ntv.de: “It is not foreseeable that the investigation will be concluded.”

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Staatsanwalt-Anklage-im-Fall-Maddie-ist-nicht-absehbar-article24148422.html

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Post by Guest 10.10.23 18:54

at least it gives a nice summoning of where this case was before the summer holidays.

i did find the podcast they talk about in this artikel, it is a german podcast and in german, i have listen to it with the subtitles set to automatic translations by you tube in english, the translation is not that great. and the first part is mostly about the julia intermezzo from earlier this year, i just was able to forget most of that time wasting exercise, but from minute 27 on, it is about the german suspect cb.

it is at least for me the first time i hear johann schwenn one of 4 or 5 lawyers who work on behalve of cb in this case. it is one of the quality lawyers in germany.

he is not live in the podcast, but his sayings are taken on tape from a phone conversation of one of the podcast makers.

the podcast speakers handle also a bit about the contact that hcw, herr staatsanwalt has with the clairvoyant michael schneider, they tell they even have seen an email between der hans and michael the clairvoyant.

johann schwenn start his conversation that he finds it quite curious that der hans rather likes to speak to clairvoyants about the case, than the defense. 

this sentence, for who did miss out on it at the time, the hitler diaries were very fake ones, but bought and sold between german and uk newspapers.
more about it and what it stands for; https://www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-German-news-magazine

ff the other most prominent lawyer of cb, is also not live but taken from an earlier phone call. 

this the link to the podcast itself, in german, when you click on the subtitle icon, and after that on the wheel icon right next to it, you can reset the subtitles to auto translation in the language you choose. 
no high quality but you get a impression about what they talk about. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcE-SfS3nA

the text of the podcast is behind a paywall, and it to much to translate in a few minutes.
cb his part starts just after minute 27.
there is not really something new to hear, or read if you try the english subtitles, only the direct contact between der hcw and michael the clairvoyant. 

hcw had let them know, he also speaks with 100 others. at least some we already know of, so it must be very busy on his coach. to get it into all these exclusive stories, these guys and dolls must have a good condition by now. 

the auto translation does translates the names too, so helge bier is helge b. and mr. filter is ff. 

they say very little about helge bier, the mann with the ski mask, what he was known from before his payed interview with bild, still he never uses such devices when he spoke long before we ever heard the name of cb to a greek newspaper. only at that interview pretty shortly after he told grange, he said of course he told what he new to the police, the portuguese ones. many years later that grew into the maddie help line of scotland yard. what did result is a nasty press for scotland yard in bild at that time, earlier this year, only i think scotland yard is still busy with looking for such an intervention, they never have had in 2007 and 2008. 

and scotland yard was only supporting the leicester police, who had the gold command over the madeleine mccann case, and who did not have such a thing as a maddie helpline at that time in 2007 and 2008. 

so you see, mister helge has good reasons not to be in court and answer to the questions of the defense team. telling porkies in the media is still a different thing , than telling then in a court of law. 
i like the comments of hcw very much, about the witness in a german court case have no choice in not to show, he must. well maybe that is a bit of an fairy tale, when the guy is not even in germany, or take some days in prison if he keeps his mouth shut in court, or nothing when he says i lied to der hans your honer. sorry. 

it is not that uncommon to see in a case, the witnesses have left the building well before the case starts. or as the saying goes, you can bring the horse to the water, but you cannot make it drink it. you can bring the witness in the court, but you can not make them speak. but who knows, maybe the clairvoyant can be of help there.
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Post by Verdi 11.10.23 1:01

Talking of happening on something of possible interest, or not as the case may be, this I find perhaps more interesting for the subtitled footage of Helge Busching flapping his gills rather than the body language per se..

"I Know Madeleine McCanns KILLER" Credible or CON?



Forgive me if this has already been uploaded, I recall posting The Behaviour Panel in the past, I'm sure I would remember over one and a half hours of sameness - I might have watched in bite size bits but Busching would have left a mark in my memory.

Not that it matters much whether it's been seen before, it's there for anyone interested.


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Post by Silentscope 11.10.23 9:46

There is a bit of Confusion on the Internet generally about the Attack described by Helge B with the grey painted Swimming goggles.

This is a separate Attack and not the American victim at all.

Source: https://www.allmystery.de/themen/km106266-799

However, the Braunschweig judges firmly assume that the raped American woman is not the older woman in the video. The course of the crime is very similar, and the woman also spoke English. But she was not petite, but rather corpulent and wore the swimming goggles that the American had not reported. After the perpetrator beat and raped the woman with a whip in the video, he took off his mask. According to the witness (Helge B) Christian B. took a pillow at the end of the video and pressed it on his victim's face, came to light.
At this moment, the sequence was cancelled.

Original source: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/kriminalitaet/urteil-gegen-christian-b-zeugen-berichteen-von-drei-weiteren-vergewaltigungen-16817917.html
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Post by crusader 11.10.23 10:33

Helge B the convicted ne'er do well and friend of Brueckner say's he's seen a video of Brueckner raping women.
No video exists to prove this.
He say's he threw a gun found in Brueckner's house, in the reservoir, again no proof of this.
He say's Brueckner told him "she didn't scream", there no proof of this conversation ever taking place.
He say's he contacted police with information about Madeleine but was never contacted so he did nothing.
I'd be interested to know what his testimony in Brueckner's rape case of the American lady was that helped to convict him
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"In 2019, Christian B. was convicted of raping a 72-year-old woman in Portugal. The verdict contains clear indications that he may have raped women not just once, but several times, following a brutal pattern.

The verdict of the Regional Court of Braunschweig against Christian B. on 16 December 2019 is a disturbing document. In it, the man, who is now considered a new suspect in the Madeleine McCann missing persons case, was found guilty by the Braunschweig judges of raping a 72-year-old American woman in 2005 and sentenced to seven years in prison. The Regional Court also included in this sentence a judgement of the Niebüll Local Court, which had already sentenced Christian B. in 2011 to one year and nine months' imprisonment on probation for trafficking more than ten kilograms of marijuana on the island of Sylt.

Actually, the penalty for drug trafficking on a large scale is up to 15 years. However, the Schleswig-Holstein court of lay assessors was lenient towards Christian B.. It was to be expected that the defendant "would let the sentence serve as a warning and would not commit any more offences in the future, even without the influence of the penal system", the judgement stated. At the same time, there had already been no lack of court-proof warnings to Christian B. at that time. At the time of the conviction in Niebüll, the native Franconian had already been convicted of child abuse, resistance against law enforcement officers, forgery, driving without a licence and twice for theft. The district court nevertheless gave Christian B. a "favourable social prognosis", among other things because "approaches for a further professional consolidation of the accused" were recognisable.

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Post by Verdi 11.10.23 16:33

crusader wrote:Helge B the convicted ne'er do well and friend of Brueckner say's he's seen a video of Brueckner raping women.
No video exists to prove this.
He say's he threw a gun found in Brueckner's house, in the reservoir, again no proof of this.
He say's Brueckner told him "she didn't scream", there no proof of this conversation ever taking place.
He say's he contacted police with information about Madeleine but was never contacted so he did nothing.
I'd be interested to know what his testimony in Brueckner's rape case of the American lady was that helped to convict him

The man is an inveterate liar aided and abetted by the press and media, why anyone gives him air or mug space I'm at a loss to understand.

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Post by Guest 11.10.23 21:54

helge b. did not sold a exclusive to bild at all, only just another version of his stories. 

so on 18 july 2017 the british police sought contact to the greek police, because helge b had contacted grange in may 2017 and grange had the idea the guy told a believable and even credible story, so, halfway august 2017 helge b, was already interviewed by to vima a greek paper, even with full photo's of him, after it was published in the sunday edition of to vima, keep talking greece an british expat online paper put that story ip too. 

but between the bild exclusive, helge b. used a ski mask when talking to the media. 

his exclusive for bild resulted in articles in bild about how scortland yard could have bungled the helge b statements much earlier, they meant in 2007/2008, when helge b. made his call to scotland yard to their specific maddie help line, they never had at that time. 
but much earlier in 2017 helge b. told to to vima he indeed tried to make contact with the local =portuguese police in 2007/2008. 

it does get any better than that, if it was before the cb confessions by the helge b. standards or after helge b. heard about madeleine mccann being missing and helge b. his knowledge from the mysterious misplaced cb tapes. 

helge b. already had together with manfred s. sold the story of the grey painted swimming goggles to a event one of these 2 had seen on the viewer on the video camera helge nicked or on tv. 

nobody ever have seen a video made from the 2005 rape case, not helge b, not manfred s. not in court, nobody have seen that one. 

from both stories of helge b. and manfred s. is a composition in circulation, because hb told about an old woman of much heavier build than the lady in the 2005 rape case and manfred s. told about a lady he seen on a video with helge within his dating range, of around middle aged, that event did not made it into the 5 infamous cases, on the third story both agree it was a young woman, but the age impression of both are a bit different. the hb one is between 12 and 14, ms his version is 15-16 years of age. at least both their description is about a wasted carpet. so that are 3 different cases compounded from the lists of hb and ms. the 2004 and 2005 cases are other cases beside that. so it is not so very difficult at all, and i do see very little confusion on this forum. at the start a bit, but that is long ago.

helge b. has the grey painted swimming googles also integrated in his how we robbed cb his former dwellings near praia da luz, when cb was in jail in portugal. and he had masses of time, being kept in a greek jail can not be such adventurous of course. 

i do want to know how you can end up in 2015 with a conviction to 7 years and being a free man living in greece, to being able to call grange in may 2017. and the guy not only got 7 years, but also became a unwanted visitor within the borders of greece, and did never leave at that time. but who knows, i got the convo netflix is into serialization maybe they had to keep some reserves in the adventures of helge b. the convict. 

and misunderstandings are very common in the case of madeleine mccann, so they would be expected to be present in the side shows of it. like 5a, that can be a villa, a house, or a appartement, it can be placed in gated community style holiday arrangements or just next to a public road. gerry can be a heart surgeon, or just a cardiologist. the twins can be a boy and a girl, or two boys or two girls. reporters are arriving on multiple times, just like curtains are blowing or not, routes covered by a front door or a patio door at the back. 

so you get used to handle all information with the very common misunderstandings.  reddit is the best source to see how common they are. 
silentscope, if you do want to read on about cb in german, you are reading the wrong topic over there, cb has for his supposed connections to other cases one of his own since february already. 29 pages. only you end up reading the stuff as if some ping pong ball is going around between your ears.
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Post by Silentscope 11.10.23 22:55

Is that Comet Ping Pong ball still bouncing around in NL perhaps?
Never mind…

This might answer your Question as to how Helge B got out of Jail.

Manfred S seems to share Fülschers opinion that he bought his early release with his Information on Brückner.

Keep talking Greece

August 28, 2017

Scotland Yard is looking for the secret of British toddler Madeleine McCann in Athens after a witness contacted the team Grange. A Greek newspaper revealed that a German citizen living in Athens contacted  “Team Grange” claiming he had information about the case as he was in nearby area when 3-year-old Madeleine disappeared from a hotel in Algarve Portugal  in 2007.

According to Sunday newspaper To Vima, the 46-year-old German citizen has already spoken with detectives of Scotland Yard’s “Grange”, a team established in 2011 and assigned with the Madeleine’s case.

The meeting between the British detectives and the German took place in Athens a couple of days  ago, the man reportedly gave critical information about the girl’s fate. He has been described as “important and trustworthy witness.”

Citing a memo prepared by the Greek Police on 18 July 2017, To Vima reports that the German national had contacted the Grange team last May the aim to help investigation. The Police memo was based on a briefing the Greek police representative in London had received by the Metropolitan Police of UK.

The 46-year-old had reportedly given to Metropolitan Policed “voluntarily and without any financial or other consideration, information about the case that has been cross-checked” and “he is considered a reliable source.”

Citing several police sources and documents, To Vima writes that the German national who has permanent residence in France was arrested in Igoumenista, North-West Greece, in 2011 for the transport of illegal migrants from Africa. A case was filed but he was set free. He was arrested again in Thessaloniki in 2015, when he returned to Greece for holidays. He was sentenced to seven years and five months imprisonment. He denied charges claiming he had helped the three hiking foreigners. He served his sentence in the prison of Chania, Crete, and from there he contacted the team Grange.

HE was released form prison a few weeks ago and he allegedly used a cell phone registered to a woman, national of a Balkan country, and resident of Agios Panteleimonas district of Athens.

The man had been banned from living the country pending 2nd degree trial scheduled for next month.

To Vima has reportedly contacted the man in the region of Fthiotida, Central Greece. He admitted to have talked with Scotland Yard detectives who had come to Athens in  order to talk with him.

“I give important information for the case. On the day Madeleine disappeared I was also in the particular province in Portugal, in a neighboring area,” the German national told the newspaper. He claimed that he had contacted the local police back then but there was no further investigation.

“Now there is keen interest from Scotland Yard for the information I have, however I am not allowed to say anything to anyone else.” the man said adding that his cooperation with British police will continue in the coming days.

To Vima-reporter’s question about Madeleine’s fate and if he thinks she was still alive, the man replied, ten years have passed since then are a lot..”

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https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2017/08/28/madeleine-mccann-greece/
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Post by Guest 11.10.23 23:25

no, that does not give me an aswer, and nice to show me an article i put already by links up on the forum long time ago myself, shall i give you the links to the original to vima article too, and the others i have, they are only in greek. you know i already have read them multiple times, and they do not give me the answers i seek. 

and keep talking greece makes it very easy, scroll to the bottom part of their text and you find a direct link to the original with much more information, in greek of course, but deeple can help.  there are even pictures to find of the original memo of the greek police. 

and it looks like it the name of helge is very difficult for the southern languages, because more about the guy is to find when you use elge or helgelar. you will end up with finding the links, already in this topic for a long time to news articles about his italian adventures in crime. der helge was already quite infamous before he decided to talk to operation grange in may 2017. 

and it does sound quite nice to tell the uk public helge b. was working in recycling, but also known as the garbage man. the guy is just not made of hero material. 

the comet ping pong ball was that not the name of that restaurant in the usa in the pizzagate hoax some years ago?
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Post by Silentscope 12.10.23 10:00

I am sure that Fülscher has already translated the Greek papers for himself. He grew up in Thessaloniki, and can speak Greek.

https://www.tanea.gr/2020/06/08/greece/astynomika/apokalyptika-eggrafa-gia-tin-eksafanisi-tis-mantlin-ti-eixe-deiksei-ereyna-stin-ellada-gia-germano-poiniko/amp/

Busching left Prison on the 12 April 17 and was put on Probation until 2021. In order to ease overcrowding in the Jail system, it was not unusual to be released early back then.


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Post by Verdi 12.10.23 13:53

Silentscope wrote:I am sure that Fülscher has already translated the Greek papers for himself. He grew up in Thessaloniki, and can speak Greek.

https://www.tanea.gr/2020/06/08/greece/astynomika/apokalyptika-eggrafa-gia-tin-eksafanisi-tis-mantlin-ti-eixe-deiksei-ereyna-stin-ellada-gia-germano-poiniko/amp/

Busching left Prison on the 12 April 17 and was put on Probation until 2021. In order to ease overcrowding in the Jail system, it was not unusual to be released early back then.

Can I ask again that you refrain from posting inaccessible links and links to text in a foreign language - that's to say a language other than English.

No problem if you post a translation of documentation.

Thank you.

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EXCLUSIVE: Trial date for Madeleine McCann suspect is finally set: Christian Brueckner, 46, faces lengthy jail term for ‘violent sexual attacks on women and children’

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MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian Brueckner will finally face a number of his alleged victims in court in February.

The Olive Press can reveal a long-awaited trial has been set for the German sex offender at Braunschweig High Court.

He has been charged with five crimes, including three alleged rapes and two sex attacks on children.

The trial – scheduled to run for over a month – could see Brueckner, 46, practically locked up for life due to the severity of some of the alleged attacks.

The Madeleine trial will follow ‘soon afterwards’, police sources in Germany told the Olive Press.

“It’s good news (finally) and we are working on the exact dates now,” a senior detective at the BKA, in Wiesbaden, revealed.

The German sex offender – who was made an official suspect (arguido) over the abduction of toddler Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 – failed to have the court moved to a different jurisdiction last month.

He is currently in prison for seven years for the sadistic rape of an American pensioner in Portugal, in 2005.

Brueckner has been charged with the rape of a young Irish woman on the Algarve in June 2004.

Hazel Behan, then 20, was raped at knifepoint by a blond-haired German, with ‘piercing blue eyes’, who climbed into her apartment and filmed the vicious four-hour attack.

At least two witnesses saw a man resembling Brueckner arrive and leave the first floor apartment in Portimao, at dawn.

One, a hotel worker, claims he saw the German expat and was able to identify him as he had taken off his mask to flee.

“He came forward recently with his evidence,” a German source told the Olive Press. “His testimony is very credible.”

Mother-of-three Behan, 40, told the Olive Press today: “I am delighted our day in court is edging nearer.

“My lawyer in Germany messaged me at the crack of dawn this morning saying the court is starting the case in February. We are just negotiating with the exact dates now between us and Brueckner’s lawyer.

“I have since spoken to the police and we are discussing the logistics of flying out, transfers and where to stay, etc”

She added: “I’m obviously nervous about seeing him again and being cross-examined by his lawyer, but I will just tell the truth and stick to it.”

Brueckner will also be facing two other rapes that he also filmed at the home he rented for seven years, just outside Praia da Luz, where Madeleine went missing.

They include the sexual assault on an, as yet, unknown teenager and an older woman in her sixties.

The videos were found by two of his former acquaintances, Manfred Seyferth and Helge Busching, on a camera they had taken from his home.

He is also facing two other sex offences against children, including the assault of a young German girl on a beach, near Praia da Luz, just a month before Maddie went missing.

The broad daylight attack was witnessed by the girl’s brother and both her parents had a very good look at the assailant who they have identified as Brueckner.

Brueckner is also facing a sexual assault charge for exposing himself to four young children in a playground in Sao Bartolome de Messines, on the Algarve, in 2017.

He was arrested at the time by an off-duty female police officer, who discovered he was wanted via Interpol, in Germany for other crimes.

He has a long list of previous convictions that numbers nearly 20.

As we went to press, we failed to get any official quote from the German judiciary.

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2023/10/16/trial-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner/

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Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner 'could face trial over separate sex offences as soon as February with Maddie trial following closely after', report claims

Brueckner faces charges over the rape of Hazel Behan in the Algarve in 2004
German authorities have indicated the McCann trial will follow the case

By Rob Hyde In Bremen

Published: 09:38, 17 October 2023 | Updated: 09:44, 17 October 2023

The prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann could face trial for a series of heinous crimes as soon as February next year.

According to the Spain-based Olive Press newspaper, convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, 46, is likely to appear next February at Braunschweig High Court for his involvement in multiple crimes.

The trial, expected to span over a month, could spell a lifetime behind bars for the 46-year-old German sex offender due to the severity of the charges against him.

German police also believe Brueckner separately abducted Madeleine from her family's family apartment in Portugal in 2007, then killed her.

Although the German prosecutors have still not yet formally charged him with this, they have charged him with a range of other sickening crimes including three shocking rapes and two sex attacks on children.

Authorities in Germany have indicated that the long-awaited Madeleine McCann trial will follow closely on the heels of the upcoming case, according to police sources via The Olive Press.

Christian Brueckner's bid to move the court to a different jurisdiction was denied recently, cementing his fate in Braunschweig.

Brueckner is currently serving a seven-year prison term in a high-security prison locally dubbed 'Alcatraz of the North' in Oldenburg, near the historic northern city of Bremen.

He was handed the sentence for the brutal rape of an American pensioner in Portugal in 2005, but he now faces charges for the rape of a young Irish woman, Hazel Behan, in the Algarve in June 2004.

Behan, who was just 20 years old at the time, endured a harrowing ordeal when a blond-haired German intruder with blue eyes broke into her apartment.

The vicious assailant raped her at knifepoint and filmed the vicious four-hour attack.

Two witnesses reported seeing a man resembling Brueckner enter and exit the apartment in Portimao at dawn, with one hotel worker claiming he saw the German expat without his mask.

In addition to Hazel's case, Brueckner will also be tried for two other rapes he filmed at his former residence outside Praia da Luz, the same area where Madeleine McCann disappeared.

These cases involve the brutal sexual assault of an unidentified teenager and an older woman in her sixties.

The incriminating videos were discovered by two petty criminal acquaintances, Manfred Seyferth and Helge Busching, who had taken a camera from Brueckner's home.

Further, Brueckner faces two additional charges related to shocking child sex offences, including the assault of a young German girl on a beach near Praia da Luz, just a month before Madeleine's disappearance.

The assailant was witnessed by the girl's brother, and her parents have identified him as Brueckner.

Additionally, Brueckner is accused of a sexual assault charge for exposing himself to four young children in a playground in Sao Bartolome de Messines, on the Algarve, in 2017.

At that time, he was arrested by an off-duty female police officer who discovered his Interpol warrant for other crimes in Germany, and it was this incident which saw him deported.

With nearly 20 previous convictions to his name, Brueckner faces a reckoning like no other.

Speaking to Germany's Bild newspaper, Friedrich Fülscher, Brueckner's lawyer, however, said he does not think the case will be heard next February:

'Due to other, priority proceedings in court and the defence, I do not expect the trial to begin before March.

'Proceedings in which pre-trial detention is carried out must be processed before proceedings in which the detention takes place on a basis other than a pretrial detention order.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12639085/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-face-trial-separate-sex-offences-soon-February-Maddie-trial.html

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Post by Verdi 17.10.23 12:16

The Olive Press wrote:He was arrested at the time by an off-duty female police officer, who discovered he was wanted via Interpol, in Germany for other crimes.

I believe this story was also an Olive Press EXCLUSIVE way back in September 2021..

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Post by Silentscope 17.10.23 12:18

Olive Press:
As we went to press, we failed to get any official quote from the German judiciary.

Bild has at least asked Herr Fülscher for comment :

Von: KAI FELDHAUS UND CHARLOTTE MAHNCKE
17.10.2023 - 10:45 Uhr

Braunschweig - According to the Spanish newspaper The Olive Press, the trial against the Maddie suspect is to begin in February before the Braunschweig Regional Court.

Brückner's defender Dr. Friedrich Fülscher (39) confirmed to BILD that the court had requested appointments at the Defence.

Fülscher: "However, due to other, priority proceedings in court and Defence, I do not assume that the trial will begin before March. Procedures in which pre-trial detention is carried out must be dealt with before such procedures in which the detention takes place on a basis other than a detention order."

Silentscope: This ‘Legalise’ means they prioritise Cases where accused Persons in Jail before those held in Police custody.

Source: Bild.
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