Baby 'kidnapped' from car in France while parents played boules nearby

MYSTERY - According to the couple, a man would have seized the cozy where the child was, and would have escaped the basket.

INFO. The story of the couple leaves some gray areas. The parents of a four month old baby, who disapeared Wednesday night, told the investigators that he witnessed the abduction of their child. The couple reported the disappearance of their baby boy on Wednesday night at the gendarmerie in Chénérailles, where they then were, a town located about ten miles from their home in the Creuse. For now, investigators conduct the hearings and exclude any hypothesis.
A man would have seized the cozy, according to parents. According to statements from the family to the investigators, the parents were away play bocce at the edge of a pond. The departing in the evening, the father, aged about thirty years away to go meet a pressing need. His girlfriend, 24 years old, stay with the child, named Loan, located in a cozy.
While some things ranks in the trunk of the vehicle, a man would arise, and would have seized the cozy, then left on foot. The father would then ran back to catch the man, without success. It was not until late afternoon that parents reportedly went to the police to report the disappearance.

A version factually difficult but not impossible. "Parents could not identify the person, they have only seen from behind," said Sébastien Farges, the prosecutor of Gueret. It also said that the couple suffered, both from "physical problems" preventing them from embarking in pursuit. "They tried to catch him driving" without success, said the prosecutor, for whom this story is physically difficult but not impossible.
No "suspicion" against parents. The magistrate said he was no "suspicion" against parents. Asked about any criminal record, he declined to comment, calling for caution. "The fragility of the situation and the fragility of what they have seen at the material makes me extremely cautious about what really happened. We are dealing with parents who are victims, who have the required assistance of the police, and that we must implement significant resources to find their child, "said the prosecutor responds to Europe 1 microphone.

The investigation is ongoing. For now, the prosecution still refuses to describe the facts, not wishing to comment on the trail of a kidnapping or disappearance. No custody has been issued. However, the prosecutor added that the investigation was ongoing in the neighborhood. The police are trying in fact to reconstruct the program of the evening with the couple. Parents have been heard throughout the day Thursday.
"As anyone involved in a case of this nature there, we will examine under the microscope each statement, whether those potential witnesses, close or distant, or those of their parents," said he said.

Research is still ongoing. The research, which mobilize fifty gendarmes and a helicopter equipped with a projector from Wednesday evening continued through the night and during the day on Friday. Divers are expected in the morning to dig ponds nearby.

PeterMac wrote:GOOGLE ! !

NEWSGRAMS
The research will continue during the weekend in the Creuse, to try to find a four month old baby whose parents say he was abducted by a stranger in a recreation area in Chénérailles without dispel questions about this case.

Nearly 48 hours after the reported disappearance by his parents Wednesday night, research to find Loan were unsuccessful Friday. After clearing a nearby forest, the police focused their efforts on two lakes located in the recreation area where parents domiciled in Lavaveix-les-Mines, about ten miles away, said their baby had been removed.
 
Three divers brigade Arcachon (Gironde) were scrutinized for several hours both shallow ponds without results. At the time of the disappearance of the child, the vehicle the couple was parked between two ponds on the area that also has a gazebo and tennis courts. Meanwhile, a helicopter conducted in late afternoon to a new survey of the area, particularly woody. Equipped with a thermal camera, he should carry out night trails.
 
According to the police colonel François Degez, the investigation is "complicated" by the configuration of the area, with a "substantial nature few houses and few witnesses." "We're closing all assumptions," said he said at a press briefing, without wanting to provide further details on the investigation. According to him, a purebred Saint-Hubert, (A DOG ! ! !) capable of detecting olfactory tracks several days after the fact, "marked tracks" Thursday around the wooden kiosk, near the vehicle. "But there is nothing decisive," he has said.
 
"The device (Research) is maintained as long as we have not completed all the investigations," said he said, adding that investigations were ongoing neighborhood. A total of sixty men involved in the search over an area of ​​82 hectares.
 
A family followed by social services
 
Questioned at length Thursday, parents told the police of the research section of Limoges that the child exhibited "health problems". He was, according to their statements in a basket of "cozy" type near their vehicle, parked not far from them on the recreation area. It is "after a moment of inattention," they would outline "a person running away with the cozy and the baby."
 
Requested Friday the prosecutor in Gueret, Sébastien Farges, has merely stated that the "painstaking" investigation continues, recalling that "no custody" had been given in this case . No press conference is for the appointed time, he has said. On Thursday, the judge had called for caution, refusing to characterize the facts, abduction or disappearance. He had also refused to comment on any criminal record of the father or the mother, aged thirty and twenty years.
 
Little has filtered on the couple, domiciled Lavaveix-les-Mines, a joint 750 inhabitants located 25 km southeast of Gueret. The couple, who have lived in several towns in the Creuse, would be followed by social services. "They have recently settled in the town. They came from Aubusson. They crossed very little, nobody knows Lavaveix," said a neighbor requesting anonymity.
 
Their little white house, shabby, opposite a railway away from the village, was closed Friday, with the shutters closed. A neighbor said the couple had moved "there three years." An old friend of the mother, for his part told AFP he cut ties with the latter who did not want to leave her companion despite domestic violence.

On Friday, an important feature of police had been mobilized to recover Loan, 4 months, which was reported missing Wednesday by her parents.

Removal or family drama? While research is being actively pursued in Chénérailles in the Creuse, to try to find a 4 month old baby disappeared Wednesday night, the survey attempts to lift the shadow on the circumstances of his disappearance areas.

> The story of parents

Parents Loan, 4 months, were reported missing infant Wednesday night at police headquarters in Chénérailles, a village in the Creuse located ten kilometers from their own, Lavaveix-les-Mines.
They reported having visited a recreation area of the village, leaving the child in her cozy in the vehicle and having remote to play bocce. They would then saw "someone running away with the cozy and the baby," they would have seen that "back" and could not have run after him because of "physical problems," Sébastien Farges reported Thursday, prosecutor in Gueret.

> The inconsistencies of the story SURELY NOT ! !

Nevertheless, the prosecution still refuses to call the facts "kidnapping" and the alert-removal device has not been triggered. (AMBER ALERT ?) , the story of the parents is in fact not be verified. Investigators are focusing on a survey of the neighborhood, to get a potential testimony would confirm the presence of a man near their car. Reportedly, it will currently nothing.
If investigators are hesitant, it's particularly because of the testimony of police, who claim to have crossed the parents from the time the baby was gone and when he went to the police. Why, in that case, do not they warned?
Attorney Sébastien Farges however insisted that there was at this stage of the investigation, no "suspicion" against parents.

> The profile of parents

Little information has filtered through this young couple. They recently installed in the Creuse, Lavaveix-les-Mines, about 25 miles southeast of Gueret. The young man, aged 31, works as a mason. Reportedly, he is known to police, including violence. The regional daily La Montagne said he had recently been affected by the suicide of one of his brothers.
He and his partner are monitored by social services and "Aubusson came." "We met them very little, nobody knows Lavaveix," said a neighbor requesting anonymity. Their little white house, shabby, is located in front of a railroad away from the village.

> The state of research

This Friday, the research for finding the small Loan focused on the recreation area. After clearing a forest, the police focused their efforts on two bodies of water, located on either side of where the couple had parked his car on Wednesday night. For several hours, three divers brigade Arcachon thus combed both shallow ponds to no avail.
Meanwhile, a helicopter already started again Thursday over the area Friday afternoon. In all, about thirty soldiers and gendarmes, mostly Company Aubusson mobilized for search.

Because, according to our information, the police currently tracking their family trail. The suspicious disappearance takes place indeed in a difficult environment. The baby's father has been arrested several times for acts of violence on his family and third parties. Parents have also been several reports from social services. In addition, the young father lost his brother there three weeks. The latter committed suicide in prison while Gueret was to appear at the Assizes for murder. A family environment which therefore opens a second runway for the police, that of a reckoning for the baby's father.

PeterMac wrote:

Because, according to our information, the police currently tracking their family trail. The suspicious disappearance takes place indeed in a difficult environment. The baby's father has been arrested several times for acts of violence on his family and third parties. Parents have also been several reports from social services. In addition, the young father lost his brother there three weeks. The latter committed suicide in prison while Gueret was to appear at the Assizes for murder. A family environment which therefore opens a second runway for the police, that of a reckoning for the baby's father.

WATCH THE FAMILY ! ! !

BlueBag wrote:

PeterMac wrote:
WATCH THE FAMILY ! ! !

Bog standard Policing.

PeterMac wrote:GOOGLE ! !

MYSTERY - According to the couple, a man would have seized the cozy where the child was, and would have escaped the basket.

INFO. The story of the couple leaves some gray areas. The parents of a four month old baby, who disapeared Wednesday night, told the investigators that he witnessed the abduction of their child. The couple reported the disappearance of their baby boy on Wednesday night at the gendarmerie in Chénérailles, where they then were, a town located about ten miles from their home in the Creuse. For now, investigators conduct the hearings and exclude any hypothesis.
A man would have seized the cozy, according to parents. According to statements from the family to the investigators, the parents were away play bocce at the edge of a pond. The departing in the evening, the father, aged about thirty years away to go meet a pressing need. His girlfriend, 24 years old, stay with the child, named Loan, located in a cozy.
While some things ranks in the trunk of the vehicle, a man would arise, and would have seized the cozy, then left on foot. The father would then ran back to catch the man, without success. It was not until late afternoon that parents reportedly went to the police to report the disappearance.

A version factually difficult but not impossible. "Parents could not identify the person, they have only seen from behind," said Sébastien Farges, the prosecutor of Gueret. It also said that the couple suffered, both from "physical problems" preventing them from embarking in pursuit. "They tried to catch him driving" without success, said the prosecutor, for whom this story is physically difficult but not impossible.
No "suspicion" against parents. The magistrate said he was no "suspicion" against parents. Asked about any criminal record, he declined to comment, calling for caution. "The fragility of the situation and the fragility of what they have seen at the material makes me extremely cautious about what really happened. We are dealing with parents who are victims, who have the required assistance of the police, and that we must implement significant resources to find their child, "said the prosecutor responds to Europe 1 microphone.

The investigation is ongoing. For now, the prosecution still refuses to describe the facts, not wishing to comment on the trail of a kidnapping or disappearance. No custody has been issued. However, the prosecutor added that the investigation was ongoing in the neighborhood. The police are trying in fact to reconstruct the program of the evening with the couple. Parents have been heard throughout the day Thursday.
"As anyone involved in a case of this nature there, we will examine under the microscope each statement, whether those potential witnesses, close or distant, or those of their parents," said he said.

Research is still ongoing. The research, which mobilize fifty gendarmes and a helicopter equipped with a projector from Wednesday evening continued through the night and during the day on Friday. Divers are expected in the morning to dig ponds nearby.

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Parents of small Loan, who claimed the last three days that their baby was abducted by a stranger in the Creuse, were taken into custody Saturday for "kidnapping, illegal restraint and violence," said the prosecutor, who described as "very thin" the chances of finding the child alive.
The father and mother, aged 31 and 24, were taken into custody at 3:15 p.m., announced at a press conference in Gueret the prosecutor, Sébastien Farges, who has not desired reveal where they were heard.
To justify the investment in custody of the couple, the judge spoke of "inconsistencies and improbabilities in the discourse of both parents, both materially and scenario", with "some of their comments that seem scripted" . Parents since the beginning of the case said their child, aged four months, was taken up before their eyes by a mysterious kidnapper Chénérailles.
"I have reason to believe that parents have participated in the acts," continued the magistrate, stating that the "baby has been treated violently, without knowing who was able to commit." "We only work on assumptions, domestic accident, third," said he added, without further details.
The prosecutor also said "pessimistic" about the fate of the baby who suffered from a heart defect and had surgery in July. "The chances of finding tonight or in the coming days a living child, and even just to find the child, are very slim," he has said.
The parents had reported to the police, on August 27 evening, the death of their child, a recreation area, about ten miles from their home in the eastern department. Investigators, they said the baby, who was in a basket of "cozy" type deposited near their vehicle, was kidnapped by a stranger while they were playing bocce.
- Violent family environment -
"The baby can be anywhere in the department," said Saturday the prosecutor. He said that the police would now focus "on the pure investigation" and "look when the baby was seen alive for the last time." He also cited research "trace cache and burial."
The magistrate noted that parents, residents for three years Lavaveix-les-Mines, 25 km southeast of Gueret, moved in a "family atmosphere of violence." The father in particular was convicted in February by the court of Gueret for acts of "violence," he said, without specifying the nature. Domestic violence were mentioned by several relatives.
Since the announcement of the disappearance, an extensive research device was placed on the recreation area and nearby. Dozens of policemen took turns for three days searching the area, focusing on wooded areas and ponds, to no avail. A dog team and a helicopter were also mobilized.
From the outset, the prosecution had called for caution in this case, refusing to characterize the facts, abduction or disappearance. No appeal for witnesses had been launched and alert-removal device had not been triggered.

This case is reminiscent of early Fiona in Clermont-Ferrand.
The mother of the girl, aged five, had alerted police in May 2013, stating that the latter had disappeared in a park while she was dozing on a bench.
The whole of France was then believed to abduction but four months later, the mother and her partner, both cocaine addicts, had confessed to the death of the girl, who was allegedly beaten. The couple said to have buried in a forest, but the body of the girl was not found since despite several episodes of research.

NEWSGRAMS
After placement in custody parents Loan, 4 months, missing since Wednesday, the prosecutor Gueret said he was "pessimistic" about the fate of the baby. According to the magistrate, the chances of finding even alive, become very minimal.

A mysterious individual he really abducted Loan, 4 months? According to the prosecutor in Gueret (Creuse), this seems less and less plausible. "I have reason to believe that parents have participated in the acts," said Sébastien Farges at a press conference Saturday. Earlier, he had decided to place the child's parents in custody for "kidnapping, false imprisonment and abuse of a minor."
"I have reasonable grounds to believe that there are inconsistencies and improbabilities in the discourse of both parents as materially as the scenario," he has said. For three days, the parents of small Loan claimed that the child had been taken up before their eyes by an individual on a recreation area when the baby was close to the vehicle in a cozy. But the magistrate, "part" of their comments appears "scripted."

"A family atmosphere of violence"
The forest, two ponds located near the wooded area and were surveyed by investigators since the announcement of the removal, but without success. If several tracks were considered, the police seem to focus more than the family. "The baby has been treated violently, without knowing who was able to commit," said the prosecutor. "We only work on assumptions, domestic accident, a third party." "There is a family atmosphere of violence proved," said the magistrate, stating that the father, aged 31, was sentenced in February "to violence" by the court of Gueret, without specifying the nature of these facts.

The fate of the child is uncertain, although the prosecutor said rather pessimistic. "The chances of finding tonight or in the coming days a living child, and even just to find the child, are very slim," he has said. Investigators will try to determine "when the baby was seen alive for the last time."
Research is still ongoing, including search "trace cache and burial." "The baby can be anywhere in the department," said he said, adding that the police had "completed the scope of reasonable searches."

PeterMac wrote:They are also a lot more realistic than SY.
http://lci.tf1.fr/france/faits-divers/bebe-disparu-dans-la-creuse-des-chances-minces-de-le-retrouver-8477401.html?

48 hours ?  or 7 YEARS,  You decide.
Oh, yes, and the last person to see it alive - - - ?  The father.

Drama in the Creuse: the missing baby found dead in a pond, her parents admitted  
The four month old baby missing since Wednesday evening in the Creuse, France, was found dead Sunday in a pond and his parents "have confessed," announced the National Gendarmerie on Twitter.

Creuse: baby found dead, parents have confessed
The body of the infant of four months has been missing since Wednesday evening in the Hollow was found in a pond, said the police on Twitter Sunday. His parents, aged 31 years to 24 years and father to the mother, placed in custody Saturday, have confessed, continues the message.
"The chances of finding the child, are very thin," warned Sébastien Farges prosecutor Gueret, interviewed Saturday by JDD. Unfortunately, the facts have proved him right. The body of the little Loan, four months, missing since Wednesday evening in the Hollow, was found dead in a pond, said the police on Twitter Sunday. Parents have confessed adds the message.
On Saturday, the father of 31 years and mother of 24 had been placed in custody for "kidnapping, false imprisonment and abuse of a minor." Since Wednesday night, they were called as witnesses, claiming that their baby was kidnapped by a person on foot, they have not been able either to identify or prosecute, while playing bocce based recreation Chénérailles near Guéret.Interrogé by JDD, the prosecutor pointed Saturday of "inconsistencies in their speeches and hardware allow us to think that they have been involved in the disappearance of their child." "My suspicions are strong," he insisted again.

PeterMac wrote:http://www.sudinfo.be/1091606/article/2014-08-31/drame-dans-la-creuse-le-bebe-disparu-retrouve-mort-dans-un-etang-ses-parents-ont?

Drama in the Creuse: the missing baby found dead in a pond, her parents admitted  
The four month old baby missing since Wednesday evening in the Creuse, France, was found dead Sunday in a pond and his parents "have confessed," announced the National Gendarmerie on Twitter.

http://www.lejdd.fr/Societe/Faits-divers/Creuse-Loan-le-bebe-de-quatre-mois-disparu-a-ete-retrouve-mort-les-parents-passes-aux-aveux-683610?

Creuse: baby found dead, parents have confessed
The body of the infant of four months has been missing since Wednesday evening in the Hollow was found in a pond, said the police on Twitter Sunday. His parents, aged 31 years to 24 years and father to the mother, placed in custody Saturday, have confessed, continues the message.
"The chances of finding the child, are very thin," warned Sébastien Farges prosecutor Gueret, interviewed Saturday by JDD. Unfortunately, the facts have proved him right. The body of the little Loan, four months, missing since Wednesday evening in the Hollow, was found dead in a pond, said the police on Twitter Sunday. Parents have confessed adds the message.
On Saturday, the father of 31 years and mother of 24 had been placed in custody for "kidnapping, false imprisonment and abuse of a minor." Since Wednesday night, they were called as witnesses, claiming that their baby was kidnapped by a person on foot, they have not been able either to identify or prosecute, while playing bocce based recreation Chénérailles near Guéret.Interrogé by JDD, the prosecutor pointed Saturday of "inconsistencies in their speeches and hardware allow us to think that they have been involved in the disappearance of their child." "My suspicions are strong," he insisted again.

Any comment from "Missing People", Mitchell, the McCanns, their accolytes, Libel lawyers, ?

NEWSGRAMS - On Friday, she [Grandmother] expressed doubts about the version of the parents ...
In Le Parisien, she ordered her daughter Christelle to explain. Grandmother of the little Loan, whose lifeless body has just been found by investigators Sunday, Laurence Bouchet-Dionnet, 44, wants to understand what happened: "It must say what that really happened. As for her companion, Cedric, he has nothing of a father. "

Inconsistencies in their speeches

Since the beginning of the case, the parents of Loan, 4 months, said their baby was kidnapped before their eyes on a recreation area in Chénérailles, about ten kilometers away, by a mysterious kidnapper.
But on Saturday afternoon, they were taken into custody, given "inconsistencies and improbabilities" in their speech, the prosecutor had explained . It is they who have led investigators near the pond where they had abandoned the dépuille their child.
Their detention was extended by 24 hours. The prosecutor will hold a press conference on Sunday, August 31 at 1800 hours at Gueret (Creuse).

Doubts family
By Friday, the family of the young mother expressed doubts about the version provided by the couple on the disappearance of their baby.
So his father Peter Button said in La Montagne, "Frankly, I know the leisure of the Forest Chénérailles [where the couple said he saw a stranger running away with their child], which is not far from at home. It is not lit at night and there is no boules. There's one in my village. We spent many evenings with Cedric and Christelle. I've never seen boules. "

A mother under the influence
His father also described his daughter as being under the influence of his companion: "He does not call or Christelle darling, but Woman. It's a macho! Once I saw Christelle had a large bruise on her arm. She told me she had banged on the buffet. But she nodded in silence when I asked him if it was Cedric. "
His mother, Laurent Bouchet-Dionnet is even more severe: "This child, as she Cédric not afford to assume or raise. She became his accomplice, "she laments, while the father of the child has already been convicted for violence.

"I wonder why she did not stop to do violence to that child. Spank an infant of four months, it is completely incomprehensible, especially when we know he was sick! "Is she also questions in Le Parisien.
In July, Loan was operated on for cardiac malformation of the aorta.