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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 8:53

At one stroke.  Childless couple, taken out of the country on a yacht, to BRAZIL !    
Fifth largest country in the world, by area and population - 200 million people, 8.5 m km2,  about 100 times the size of Poortugal

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546818/Brazilian-couple-who-wanted-a-child-re-examined-in-Madeleine-hunt
EXCLUSIVE: Brazilians in the frame in Madeleine hunt

The behaviour of a Brazilian couple who were seen acting suspiciously around the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is now being re-examined by Portuguese police.

Published: 00:01, Sun, December 14, 2014
By JAMES MURRAY
Madeleine vanished from the flat in Praia da Luz in 2007
After British detectives sat in on interviews in Faro with witnesses last week, the Sunday Express can reveal Policia Judiciaria co-ordinator Ana Paula Rito is taking a broader look at leads which may not have been fully pursued.
She is now keen to learn more about the Brazilian couple, who are said to have expressed a strong desire to have a child when they were in the ­Algarve in May 2007 when Madeleine vanished.
A few days after Madeleine vanished from flat 5a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, a British man came forward with his concerns about the couple and was interviewed by Portuguese detectives.
On the night of the abduction the man was closing his video rental shop just a few streets away from the apartment.
At 10.45pm, 45 minutes after Kate McCann had discovered that her daughter was missing, he noticed the Brazilian woman, aged about 25, driving past his shop in a red car.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again
He told police there was a dog in the front seat and the woman driver kept looking at something on the back seat which he could not see.
Her partner, a bald Brazilian man in his early 40s, had worked on a local farm but was fired after some machinery was damaged and later worked at Lagos marina, about four miles from Luz doing boat ­repair work.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again.
A dark-haired woman seen hanging around the apartment at 8pm on the night Madeleine vanished has never been identified or traced.
On Friday expatriate British businessman Robert Murat was ­re-interviewed for several hours, the last of 10 witnesses to be seen.

That should keep operation Grange going for at least a century. Nice holidays on the beach in Rio

Still have to get into the apartment between 9.15 and 10 though, without being seen, or leaving any forensic trace.
Ah, well.

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Post by aquila on 14.12.14 8:59

@PeterMac wrote:At one stroke.  Childless couple, taken out of the country on a yacht, to BRAZIL !    
Fifth largest country in the world, by area and population - 200 million people, 8.5 m km2,  about 100 times the size of Poortugal

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546818/Brazilian-couple-who-wanted-a-child-re-examined-in-Madeleine-hunt
EXCLUSIVE: Brazilians in the frame in Madeleine hunt

The behaviour of a Brazilian couple who were seen acting suspiciously around the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is now being re-examined by Portuguese police.

Published: 00:01, Sun, December 14, 2014
By JAMES MURRAY
Madeleine vanished from the flat in Praia da Luz in 2007
After British detectives sat in on interviews in Faro with witnesses last week, the Sunday Express can reveal Policia Judiciaria co-ordinator Ana Paula Rito is taking a broader look at leads which may not have been fully pursued.
She is now keen to learn more about the Brazilian couple, who are said to have expressed a strong desire to have a child when they were in the ­Algarve in May 2007 when Madeleine vanished.
A few days after Madeleine vanished from flat 5a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, a British man came forward with his concerns about the couple and was interviewed by Portuguese detectives.
On the night of the abduction the man was closing his video rental shop just a few streets away from the apartment.
At 10.45pm, 45 minutes after Kate McCann had discovered that her daughter was missing, he noticed the Brazilian woman, aged about 25, driving past his shop in a red car.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again
He told police there was a dog in the front seat and the woman driver kept looking at something on the back seat which he could not see.
Her partner, a bald Brazilian man in his early 40s, had worked on a local farm but was fired after some machinery was damaged and later worked at Lagos marina, about four miles from Luz doing boat ­repair work.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again.
A dark-haired woman seen hanging around the apartment at 8pm on the night Madeleine vanished has never been identified or traced.
On Friday expatriate British businessman Robert Murat was ­re-interviewed for several hours, the last of 10 witnesses to be seen.

That should keep operation Grange going for at least a century. Nice holidays on the beach in Rio

Still have to get into the apartment between 9.15 and 10 though, without being seen, or leaving any forensic trace.
Ah, well.
....the media/TM could hardly introduce another 'convenient sighting' so I suppose this will have to do...scraping the barrel springs to mind.

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 9:07

It is perfect.
Alive and well - Please continue to give generously
Holidays on the hundreds of beaches, paid for by the Fund
Beyond the reach of the PJ or SY - who reluctantly have to conclude they can do no more
Pope can be asked to help
White House ditto
100 million cuddle cats sold
200 million Good quality wristbands

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Post by Guest on 14.12.14 9:11

@PeterMac wrote:At one stroke.  Childless couple, taken out of the country on a yacht, to BRAZIL !    
Fifth largest country in the world, by area and population - 200 million people, 8.5 m km2,  about 100 times the size of Poortugal

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546818/Brazilian-couple-who-wanted-a-child-re-examined-in-Madeleine-hunt
EXCLUSIVE: Brazilians in the frame in Madeleine hunt

The behaviour of a Brazilian couple who were seen acting suspiciously around the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is now being re-examined by Portuguese police.

Published: 00:01, Sun, December 14, 2014
By JAMES MURRAY
Madeleine vanished from the flat in Praia da Luz in 2007
After British detectives sat in on interviews in Faro with witnesses last week, the Sunday Express can reveal Policia Judiciaria co-ordinator Ana Paula Rito is taking a broader look at leads which may not have been fully pursued.
She is now keen to learn more about the Brazilian couple, who are said to have expressed a strong desire to have a child when they were in the ­Algarve in May 2007 when Madeleine vanished.
A few days after Madeleine vanished from flat 5a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, a British man came forward with his concerns about the couple and was interviewed by Portuguese detectives.
On the night of the abduction the man was closing his video rental shop just a few streets away from the apartment.
At 10.45pm, 45 minutes after Kate McCann had discovered that her daughter was missing, he noticed the Brazilian woman, aged about 25, driving past his shop in a red car.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again
He told police there was a dog in the front seat and the woman driver kept looking at something on the back seat which he could not see.
Her partner, a bald Brazilian man in his early 40s, had worked on a local farm but was fired after some machinery was damaged and later worked at Lagos marina, about four miles from Luz doing boat ­repair work.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again.
A dark-haired woman seen hanging around the apartment at 8pm on the night Madeleine vanished has never been identified or traced.
On Friday expatriate British businessman Robert Murat was ­re-interviewed for several hours, the last of 10 witnesses to be seen.

That should keep operation Grange going for at least a century. Nice holidays on the beach in Rio

Still have to get into the apartment between 9.15 and 10 though, without being seen, or leaving any forensic trace.
Ah, well.
Easy,, the child was passed through the jemmied shutters,now was window open or shut? curtains,got to get this right,closed or open?

That was after clambering over the cots and not disturbing the sleeping twins.
What inference are the Express trying to make with RM,they just dropped his name in there right at the end.

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Post by Woofer on 14.12.14 9:15

.... and joined in Brazil 2 years ago by Marcos Aragão Correia, the barmy guy who had it in for Goncalo.


Never understood exactly why that guy was so hostile to GA.

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Post by Bishop Brennan on 14.12.14 9:19

Is this just the PJ having a laugh at SY's expense?   Certainly it fits the "anyone but the McCanns" whitewash requirement. And it keeps the mystery going for ever.  BUT it makes SY look like complete stumblebums for not even considering it and not a peep about it in the Summer spectacular.   

Is the new woman in charge simply showing how easy it is to come up with ridiculous, unsubstantiated theories when zero evidence is required?   Is she hoping that the gullible buffoons of SY leap like over-eager puppies on this juicy new idea?   

I'm calling bluff.

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Post by plebgate on 14.12.14 9:52

@PeterMac wrote:At one stroke.  Childless couple, taken out of the country on a yacht, to BRAZIL !    
Fifth largest country in the world, by area and population - 200 million people, 8.5 m km2,  about 100 times the size of Poortugal

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546818/Brazilian-couple-who-wanted-a-child-re-examined-in-Madeleine-hunt
EXCLUSIVE: Brazilians in the frame in Madeleine hunt

The behaviour of a Brazilian couple who were seen acting suspiciously around the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is now being re-examined by Portuguese police.

Published: 00:01, Sun, December 14, 2014
By JAMES MURRAY
Madeleine vanished from the flat in Praia da Luz in 2007
After British detectives sat in on interviews in Faro with witnesses last week, the Sunday Express can reveal Policia Judiciaria co-ordinator Ana Paula Rito is taking a broader look at leads which may not have been fully pursued.
She is now keen to learn more about the Brazilian couple, who are said to have expressed a strong desire to have a child when they were in the ­Algarve in May 2007 when Madeleine vanished.
A few days after Madeleine vanished from flat 5a of the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz, a British man came forward with his concerns about the couple and was interviewed by Portuguese detectives.
On the night of the abduction the man was closing his video rental shop just a few streets away from the apartment.
At 10.45pm, 45 minutes after Kate McCann had discovered that her daughter was missing, he noticed the Brazilian woman, aged about 25, driving past his shop in a red car.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again
He told police there was a dog in the front seat and the woman driver kept looking at something on the back seat which he could not see.
Her partner, a bald Brazilian man in his early 40s, had worked on a local farm but was fired after some machinery was damaged and later worked at Lagos marina, about four miles from Luz doing boat ­repair work.
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again.
A dark-haired woman seen hanging around the apartment at 8pm on the night Madeleine vanished has never been identified or traced.
On Friday expatriate British businessman Robert Murat was ­re-interviewed for several hours, the last of 10 witnesses to be seen.

That should keep operation Grange going for at least a century. Nice holidays on the beach in Rio

Still have to get into the apartment between 9.15 and 10 though, without being seen, or leaving any forensic trace.
Ah, well.
Who did they express this desire to?

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 11:26

The bit I love is this
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again


THERE IS NO MARINA IN PdL
There are flat rocks with a few bashed up fishing boats, then a soft sand beach, then the Rocha Negra, then a rocky coastline with high cliffs
The nearest Marina is in Lagos, some 10 km to the West.

A larger town, with lots more small children available.

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Post by Mariita on 14.12.14 11:31

And Madeleine has managed so far not to discover her parents worldwide campaign to find her...She must be well hidden without tv or internet, deep in the Brazilian jungle

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Post by columbostogeys on 14.12.14 11:39

@PeterMac wrote:The bit I love is this
The couple, who were staying on a yacht at the marina left shortly after the disappearance and have not been seen again


THERE IS NO MARINA IN PdL
There are flat rocks with a few bashed up fishing boats, then a soft sand beach, then the Rocha Negra, then a rocky coastline with high cliffs
The nearest Marina is in Lagos, some 10 km to the West.

A larger town, with lots more small children available.

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Maybe they got lost in the Brazilian Triangle lol.....this is ridiculous and i am expecting made up.....I cant believe it can be coming from PJ, if it is, then well I give up lol.....

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Post by NickE on 14.12.14 12:09

I also know a person who went away in a private jet shotly after the "disappearance"
Philip Edm*nds!

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Post by rustyjames on 14.12.14 12:16

Well Simon Russell the DVD shop owner gave the PJ the name of the Brazilian woman and her companion since both had worked at his parent's farm - http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EXTERNAL.htm#p4p854

Confirmation they were living at the Marina in Lagos as well on a catameran.

Incidentally this was the same guy who created the "egg man" picture from memory of around six unpublished sketches that were shown around the resort.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453724/Revealed-The-police-e-fit-Madeleines-abductor-thats-egg-parting.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551163/Four-very-useful-leads-boost-Madeleine-hunt.html

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Post by Guest on 14.12.14 12:24

Thought OG current line of thinking is a burglary gone wrong,are they at odds with the PJ then.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 14.12.14 12:30

Whatever 'happened' to Operation Strange's 'we WILL get an ILOR, 'immediately, with utmost urgency' and bring our 'better than your's, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah', sniffer dogs back to PDL to 'search' those 'shops, premises'?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 14.12.14 12:36

WMD wrote:Thought OG current line of thinking is a burglary gone wrong,are they at odds with the PJ then.

Well yeah!

John 'there is NO sign of a break in' Hill, MW, Ocean Club , PDL, MANAGER,,,,,,,,, an OG..... 'suspected' BURGLATOR!

thinking

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 13:03

Are the Express going to work through every one of the statements over the next five years, I wonder.

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 13:33

@rustyjames wrote:Confirmation they were living at the Marina in Lagos as well on a catameran.

On someone else's catamaran ! Was it reported "whooshed "

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 13:44

Oh, Yes. And by the way

When questioned about the physical characteristics of E**** S*****, he identified him as being bald, with a strong build, around 1,70 m in height, dark skin tone and around 42 years of age.
Have we had a bald one before ?
Tannerman had at least two differing haircuts,
Smthman had a full head of hair ( or several heads of hair !)
Copper and pimple and Harrisonman all had hair.
Now we have swarthy strongman midget Baldman

Or did have, in 2007.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 14.12.14 14:00

@Bishop Brennan wrote:Is this just the PJ having a laugh at SY's expense?   Certainly it fits the "anyone but the McCanns" whitewash requirement. And it keeps the mystery going for ever.  BUT it makes SY look like complete stumblebums for not even considering it and not a peep about it in the Summer spectacular.   

Is the new woman in charge simply showing how easy it is to come up with ridiculous, unsubstantiated theories when zero evidence is required?   Is she hoping that the gullible buffoons of SY leap like over-eager puppies on this juicy new idea?   

I'm calling bluff.
Clearly we need a new BBC Crimewatch show.

Smithman now eliminated - blonde Nicola Wall (with painted nails to impress the viewers) to ask if anyone saw the Brazilian couple.

Complete with two different e-fits of the dog seen in the front seat of the car.

Maybe Martin Smith saw it, in the dark for a second or two - but could instantly recognise it again if shown video footage of the dog, seven years later

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 14:11

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EXTERNAL.htm#p4p854
it was a catamaran of high dimensions with the name "TROPICS";

As is NOT found on the official list.  
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BOATS.htm
441     Albufeira Titan            PT   08/05/07               20/05/07               PT  

440     Albufeira Tomate           PT   05/05/07               20/05/07               PT  

449     Albufeira Toujours         GB   27/04/07 Lagos         28/04/07 Culatra       GB    
440     Albufeira Toujours         PT   06/05/07               08/05/07               GB    

442     Albufeira Tropico          PT   09/05/07               31/12/08               PT  

433     Portimao  True Blue        NL   01-07/5/07        

515     Lagos     Turquesa         ES   05/05/07 Gibraltar     08/05/07 ?             ES  

433     Portimao  Valyscha              01-07/5/07        

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Post by PeterMac on 14.12.14 16:37

"Well we've looked at all the street children in Rio, and there aren't enough, so I have an idea, darling
Let's fly to Portugal to see if there is an English one, not a baby, a proper little girl, about 4 should be OK, who speaks no Portuguese
but who is a real screamer and can give an abductor her pennyworth . . .
Then we can drive her to the Marina, dump the car, steal the catamaran we have been working on and sail it all the way home
No one will notice,and I am sure no one will check.
Because Portugal doesn't have a Navy anyway, or so I've been told"


Sound about right ?

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Post by ChippyM on 14.12.14 17:42

@PeterMac wrote:Oh, Yes. And by the way

When questioned about the physical characteristics of E**** S*****, he identified him as being bald, with a strong build, around 1,70 m in height, dark skin tone and around 42 years of age.
Have we had a bald one before ?  
Tannerman had at least two differing haircuts,
Smthman had a full head of hair ( or several heads of hair !)
Copper and pimple and Harrisonman all had hair.
Now we have swarthy strongman midget Baldman

Or did have, in 2007.

  Well they have exhausted the Gypsy scenario what with discovering the 'evil' swarthy devils have the audacity to sometimes have blued eyed blond children of their own!   

   I like the angle though with the Brazillians saying they wanted a child, that so obviously translates as planning to sneak into a holiday apartment and steal a difficult 4 year old whilst ingnoring the lovey peaceful twin babies..  The world's just full of these swarthy menaces!

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Post by Tony Bennett on 14.12.14 17:48

@PeterMac wrote:
Have we had a bald one before ?  
Actually, YES:

Wojchiech Krokowski, from Warsaw Poland = 'Sagres Man':

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Holidaymaker Nuno Lourenco, who is from Sagres but now lives in Germany, was sitting at a cafe with his German wife and their two children when he noticed a man taking pictures of his four-year-old blonde daughter and other children. He became so concerned at his behaviour that he took his own picture of the man - who was balding with long hair at the back - on his mobile phone.

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Pity he doesn't come from Brazil, otherwise we might have a genuine lead on our hands

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Post by aquila on 14.12.14 18:02

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
Have we had a bald one before ?  
Actually, YES:

Wojchiech Krokowski, from Warsaw Poland = 'Sagres Man':

QUOTE

Holidaymaker Nuno Lourenco, who is from Sagres but now lives in Germany, was sitting at a cafe with his German wife and their two children when he noticed a man taking pictures of his four-year-old blonde daughter and other children. He became so concerned at his behaviour that he took his own picture of the man - who was balding with long hair at the back - on his mobile phone.

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Pity he doesn't come from Brazil, otherwise we might have a genuine lead on our hands
A bald man with a ponytail. That's got to be good for a few more e-fits.

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