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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by Cristobell on 25.05.14 13:47

@Hongkong Phooey wrote:
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@canada12 wrote:I don't honestly think they're likely to find a body. But they may find evidence that a body has been there, or some other items associated with that body may have been there. We had a notorious case here of a serial killer who lived on a pig farm. He killed his victims (all women working in the sex trade who mysteriously disappeared after "partying" at his pig farm). He apparently then chopped up his victims and fed the remains to his pigs in order to dispose of their bodies. However there were still bits of bodies left, which he apparently discarded. The police employed dozens of volunteer archaeology students to patiently sift through every piece of land on the property, for months, in order to try and find artifacts tracing back to the victims, including bone fragments, etc. This is just noted as an example of the extent to which an investigation has to go, in order to find "evidence". The man was convicted, by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton
I'm glad they were able to convict him Canada.

I think the police must have good reason to believe they can find the body and I doubt the Portuguese AG would have given the go ahead to commence digs in a holiday resort at the height of the season if they were not digging for something specific.

Of course, the 'digs' may be a huge bluff designed to flush out those who are struggling to hold their nerve at this time.  The pressure on the main protagonists must be unbearable - many of them are probably looking at long prison terms and the urge to protect themselves may override any former Pact.  Some will be more guilty than others and may decide they are not going to take the full whack for something they only played a small part in.  Whilst they might be prepared to take part in a cover up, it is unlikely they would serve a long prison sentence to protect casual friends.
Again I agree however the protection you speak of, why do you think they protected their casual friends in the first place and would perhaps now panic into revealing the truth? Could the truth be bigger than just a bunch of doctors?
My imagination runs wild when I try to think of what it is they are covering up HKP, and I am not sure anything would shock me now. 

I've always thought of the scam as a runaway train, how could they know it would capture the world's attention as it did, unless of course it was preplanned as Dr. Ludke suggested.  

The silence of the friends condemns them imo, as time as goes by, they become more and more implicated, perverting the course of justice being the lesser of the charges they will eventually face.  

The bigger truth has been revealed on this forum HKP, it lies in the machinations of those who wished to have sinister control of the UK population by creating a danger to children that would persuade the public to hand over hard won 'freedoms' to the ruling government and their police operatives.  It has nothing to do with child protection and everything to do with creating fear - if we believe there are paedophiles lurking on every corner and that our children are in constant danger, we will agree to anything.

As an example, in the lead up to the Iraq war, Tony Blair sent tanks into Heathrow.  It was completely unnecessary, but caused a huge furore as the sight of army tanks at Heathrow led the public to believe there was a very real threat of terrorism on these shores, ergo there was justification for a war.

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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by Hongkong Phooey on 25.05.14 14:15

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@canada12 wrote:I don't honestly think they're likely to find a body. But they may find evidence that a body has been there, or some other items associated with that body may have been there. We had a notorious case here of a serial killer who lived on a pig farm. He killed his victims (all women working in the sex trade who mysteriously disappeared after "partying" at his pig farm). He apparently then chopped up his victims and fed the remains to his pigs in order to dispose of their bodies. However there were still bits of bodies left, which he apparently discarded. The police employed dozens of volunteer archaeology students to patiently sift through every piece of land on the property, for months, in order to try and find artifacts tracing back to the victims, including bone fragments, etc. This is just noted as an example of the extent to which an investigation has to go, in order to find "evidence". The man was convicted, by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton
I'm glad they were able to convict him Canada.

I think the police must have good reason to believe they can find the body and I doubt the Portuguese AG would have given the go ahead to commence digs in a holiday resort at the height of the season if they were not digging for something specific.

Of course, the 'digs' may be a huge bluff designed to flush out those who are struggling to hold their nerve at this time.  The pressure on the main protagonists must be unbearable - many of them are probably looking at long prison terms and the urge to protect themselves may override any former Pact.  Some will be more guilty than others and may decide they are not going to take the full whack for something they only played a small part in.  Whilst they might be prepared to take part in a cover up, it is unlikely they would serve a long prison sentence to protect casual friends.
Again I agree however the protection you speak of, why do you think they protected their casual friends in the first place and would perhaps now panic into revealing the truth? Could the truth be bigger than just a bunch of doctors?
My imagination runs wild when I try to think of what it is they are covering up HKP, and I am not sure anything would shock me now. 

I've always thought of the scam as a runaway train, how could they know it would capture the world's attention as it did, unless of course it was preplanned as Dr. Ludke suggested.  

The silence of the friends condemns them imo, as time as goes by, they become more and more implicated, perverting the course of justice being the lesser of the charges they will eventually face.  

The bigger truth has been revealed on this forum HKP, it lies in the machinations of those who wished to have sinister control of the UK population by creating a danger to children that would persuade the public to hand over hard won 'freedoms' to the ruling government and their police operatives.  It has nothing to do with child protection and everything to do with creating fear - if we believe there are paedophiles lurking on every corner and that our children are in constant danger, we will agree to anything.

As an example, in the lead up to the Iraq war, Tony Blair sent tanks into Heathrow.  It was completely unnecessary, but caused a huge furore as the sight of army tanks at Heathrow led the public to believe there was a very real threat of terrorism on these shores, ergo there was justification for a war.
This is where we disagree, I think the gasper statements and Dr Amarals constant referral to this subject could very well be at the core. We only need to look around us at the present time, there may be celebrities being bought to task but this is just the tip of the iceberg IMO. It ticks so many boxes I.e. get rid of body, unprecedented government help, the pact, the inappropriate pictures etc. etc,

I do however hope I'm wrong
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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by aiyoyo on 25.05.14 14:19

@Justformaddie wrote:I'm hoping the pj  are allowing the digs because if they dig and find something it could be what they need to move forward? The pj have refused og a lot, but agreed to the digs (if it happens) IMO

It's mandatory they got approval from Public Ministry else they can't dig.
Besides it is the PJ who dig (that organise the dig) and the MET are just observers.  
In other words PJ are main actors and MET just extras.

But, don't hold your hope up, that way you won't be too disappointed.
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Post by Justformaddie on 25.05.14 14:35

Would the met have to justify the reasons for digging? Maybe the pj have learnt something new during the briefings with the met? IMOIMO

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Post by Justformaddie on 24.06.14 22:07

Just realised something..... If the mcs were being protected, why would the uk send in the best IMO cadaver and blood dogs they have? They could've sent in substitutes and nothing would've been detected, so IMO I don't think they were protected then, what would be reason for protection now? All IMO

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 24.06.14 22:15

@Justformaddie wrote:Just realised something..... If the mcs were being protected, why would the uk send in the best IMO cadaver and blood dogs they have? They could've sent in substitutes and nothing would've been detected, so IMO I don't think they were protected then, what would be reason for protection now? All IMO

What we really need is Martin Grime to comment. I doubt he will now though with the gig he has with the FBI. 

It does puzzle me why the UK sent in the dogs, and Mark Harrison for that matter, if they were all being protected. Makes no sense to me.
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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by Justformaddie on 24.06.14 22:22

@TheTruthWillOut wrote:
@Justformaddie wrote:Just realised something..... If the mcs were being protected, why would the uk send in the best IMO cadaver and blood dogs they have? They could've sent in substitutes and nothing would've been detected, so IMO I don't think they were protected then, what would be reason for protection now? All IMO

What we really need is Martin Grime to comment. I doubt he will now though with the gig he has with the FBI. 

It does puzzle me why the UK sent in the dogs, and Mark Harrison for that matter, if they were all being protected. Makes no sense to me.
Hmm, yes if they were being protected then that would've started from the get go. I can't think why after Eddie and Keela  they'd be protected then. All IMO

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Post by fossey on 24.06.14 22:28

Everybody probably believed the bullsh!t abduction story at first.

When Grimes, the dogs, Harrison etc and of course GA realised it was all bullsh!t then the protection commenced.

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Post by Iamtheseeker on 24.06.14 22:30

It looks like their time to face Justice is coming soon , I cant believe any experienced Police Officer can not ignore the shifty little rodent eyes , the itchy ears , and the quick movement of feet (when they scarpered from Portugal ) , the dogs Eddie and Keela, the "hired Liars" services , and the fact they neglected under 4 year old children . Notice how the gruesome twosome and their "mouth piece " have gone silent?  big grin

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Post by Guest on 24.06.14 22:37

That's because Clarence is busy in Brighton:

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Post by Justformaddie on 24.06.14 22:39

@Iamtheseeker wrote:It looks like their time to face Justice is coming soon , I cant believe any experienced Police Officer can not ignore the shifty little rodent eyes , the itchy ears , and the quick movement of feet (when they scarpered from Portugal ) , the dogs Eddie and Keela, the "hired Liars" services , and the fact they neglected under 4 year old children . Notice how the gruesome twosome and their "mouth piece " have gone silent?  big grin
They haven't been saying much these days, normally during times like this (the trial) they're everywhere, but not this time smug IMO

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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by fossey on 24.06.14 22:43

Ladyinred wrote:That's because Clarence is busy in Brighton:



Is his new shop in Brighton as well......





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Post by Tony Bennett on 24.06.14 22:51

@Justformaddie wrote:Just realised something....If the McCanns were being protected, why would the UK send in the best IMO cadaver and blood dogs they have? They could've sent in substitutes and nothing would've been detected, so IMO I don't think they were protected then, what would be reason for protection now? All IMO
Choosing my words carefully for legal reasons, I would offer these observations.

Leicestershire Police (LP) were the lead police force for liaising with, and if necessary, influencing, the Portuguese Police.

Let's look at LP's track record. It includes:

* Giving Gerry McCann a personal tour of the 'incident room' at LP's Enderby HQ

* Promoting 'Madeleine's Fund' on their website

* Offering the public, on their own website, the McCanns' 'investigation hot line' number to call, even after they were made formal suspects in their daughter's disappearance (almost certainly a unique 'first' in world history)

* Suppressing for over 5 months the two statements by the Drs Gaspar about Dr David Payne's fingers-in-his-mouth amd nipple-circling routines

* Providing Det Chief Supt Bob Small to coach and advise Jane Tanner on the very afternoon (13 May 2007) before she 'adamantly' told Goncalo Amaral's men that she was sure Robert Murat was the man she said she'd seen carrying a child away from near G5A 10 days earlier

* Hosted Gordon Brown at Braunstone Police Station, Leics, just days after the McCanns left Portugal on 9 September

* Det Supt Prior's tame dealings with the Tapas 9 about a reconstruction in Portugal - completely inappropriate conduct by him in being on casual first name terms: 'Hi Stu' etc., when he should have been trying to enforce a reconstruction

* Detailed co-operation by Stuart Prior with the McCann Team in arranging with the Murdoch-owned News of the World an almighty publicity blitz on 29 January 2008 about 'Monsterman', which the McCann Team and LP claimed was a major suspect etc. etc.

That is a track record that one day may come under very close scrutiny indeed, and deservedly so.

So how did Goncalo Amaral get hold of Martin Grime?

Not by going through LP, that's for sure. He had already had many indications that his investigation was being interfered with at the highest level.

He simply short-circuited LP and cut them out by using 'Route 1':

Mark Harrison >> Lee Rainbow >> Martin Grime.

He did this fairly swiftly in July 2007 IIRC.

It looks like he efficiently arranged for Martin Grime's dogs Eddie and Keela - as you suggest, the UK's best available cadaver and blood dogs - to come over to the Algarve before LP and the Home Office, MI5 and the security services got to hear about it.

If he had gone via LP, it's probable his initiative would have been scuppered IMO.


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So, Justformaddie, there's your explanation.

The puzzle about how Martin Grime came to be appointed has been solved for you. You need be puzzled no more

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Post by Woofer on 24.06.14 23:18

@Justformaddie wrote:Just realised something..... If the mcs were being protected, why would the uk send in the best IMO cadaver and blood dogs they have? They could've sent in substitutes and nothing would've been detected, so IMO I don't think they were protected then, what would be reason for protection now? All IMO

The relationship between the PJ and the UK police seemed to be good up to a certain point and some UK police were thinking along the same lines as the PJ.  If you read Chapter 16 of GA`s book you will see that the PJ requested help from the UK`s best forensic team :-

"It's July. The hypothesis of death, including by the parents, is being seriously considered. However, no lead has yet come to anything, and we find ourselves in a cul-de-sac. We have to re-centre the investigation around its point of departure, apartment 5A at the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz. We officially request the help of the best experts in criminology and forensics but also the specialist dog team from the English police. A few days later, we welcome Mark Harrison, a specialist in murder, and the search for missing persons and victims of natural disasters. National advisor to the British police, he is well known for his exceptional professional experience. He has already participated in dozens of international criminal investigations.

His work consists of defining new strategies for research. He gets to work immediately, supported by the Portuguese PJ and the investigators from Leicester and Scotland Yard. On his arrival, we place at his disposal details of the case, as well as all our material and human resources. Harrison reads up on the statements and interviews from the principal witnesses - including, of course, those of the parents and friends -, all the analyses, simulations, hypotheses and cross-checking already carried out. He carries out a reconnaissance on the ground, by helicopter and then on foot. He paces the streets and the access roads to Vila da Luz and compares them to the diagrams created in the course of the investigation. Nothing is left to chance: measurement and timing of possible routes between buildings, apartments and restaurants; analyses, with the help of the best specialists, of weather, geological and maritime factors in relation to the investigation; consultation with the best forensic anthropologist in the country, who indicates for us what would be the actual state of the body in the hypothesis of death occurring on May 3rd; study of the region's natural carrion predators. All the research already conducted by hundreds of people - GNR, civil defence, firemen and other volunteers - is re-examined in detail and re-analysed.

After a week of intense work, Harrison presents the results of his study to my coordinating group. Even if we were expecting it, his conclusions confirm our worst fears. The most plausible scenario is the following: there is no doubt that Madeleine is dead, and her body is hidden somewhere in the area around Praia da Luz. He praises the quality of the work carried out by the Portuguese authorities in trying to find the little girl alive. According to him, the time has come to redirect the searches in order to find, this time, a body hidden in the surrounding area.

AMAZING STATISTICS

Great Britain has at its disposal the world's biggest data bank on homicide of children under five years old. Since 1960, the count is 1528. Harrison is well acquainted with its contents. He often draws information from there which helps him to resolve similar cases. Valuable information can be found there on on various criminal modus operandi, places where bodies are hidden, techniques used to get rid of a body. He relates that on one occasion, thanks to the data, he was able to deduce the maximum distance a body might be found in relation to where the crime had been committed.

The figures quoted in the report he hands over give us the shivers. The crimes, including those of a sexual nature, are committed by the parents in 84% of cases; 96% are perpetrated by friends and relatives. In only 4% of them is the murderer or abductor a total stranger to the victim. In this roundabout way, Mark Harrison points out that the guilty party may be a person close to Madeleine, and even her own parents. From now on, we have to explore this track, especially as the others have proved fruitless.

Harrison also suggests that we use the skills of two totally remarkable dogs: the first an EVRD (Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog), achieves outstanding performance in the detection of human cadaver odour; the second, a CSI dog (Crime Scene Investigation) is capable of smelling the tiniest trace of blood, knowing how to recognise its human origin. To convince us of their capability and the extraordinary work carried out by these very special detectives in the course of over 200 investigations, he screens a video for us, showing their training and their intervention on the ground.

He suggests that we start the operations with the inspection of apartment 5A, then those occupied by the McCanns' friends. Robert Murat's house will also be subjected to thorough examination. In addition, all the vehicles used by all of them will be sniffed by the dogs. "



In 2010 Mark Harrison left the UK to work with the Australian Police - I suppose one could question why :-



Commander Mark Harrison

Australian Federal Police

Mark joined the British Police Service in 1987 as a sworn officer where he initially performed uniform general duties. He progressed his career and focused in counter terrorism and the forensic aspects of search.

In 2002 Mark was appointed the British Police national coordinator for serial homicide, abduction and matters of national security where there were matters relating to forensic search. He fulfilled a senior detective leadership role as a consultant to fellow detectives and to government policy forums, consulting widely within the UK and other countries including, but not limiting to, the USA, Australia and New Zealand.

In 2004 Mark was awarded by HM The Queen the MBE for services to policing in relation to serial homicide and counter terrorist investigations.

In 2007 Mark was awarded a visiting professorship in earth and ocean sciences specializing in geoforensics in recognition to the contribution he has made in this emerging area of forensic science.

In 2010 Mark joined the Australian Federal Police as the coordinator of their crime scene sciences department and was promoted to Commander in February 2012 where he currently leads a large diverse team of operational forensic staff.

http://forensicacademy.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Efficient-Forensic-Science-2.pdf




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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 24.06.14 23:31

@fossey wrote:Everybody probably believed the bullsh!t abduction story at first.

When Grimes, the dogs, Harrison etc and of course GA realised it was all bullsh!t then the protection commenced.

Either the UK offered or the PJ requested these assets. It was late July/early August when they were deployed, long after the point any protection kicked in if you believe it (some say within 24/48hrs)

If they were being protected at that point why would they send the top cadaver/blood dogs and the top man at the NPIA for searching for missing people? 

I would like to hear more from GA on the MI5/security service man that 'had a word' with Martin Grime at Faro airport on his way home.

I think if anyone is being protected it is the UK authorities that gave inappropriate help in the first days/weeks and MI5/security services have spent the last 7 years trying to clean it up.

*After reading Tony's and Woofers last posts* I have no doubts that it isn't coincidence that both Harrison and Grime have moved abroad to work.....having signed water tight NDA's, no doubt.
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Post by lj on 25.06.14 6:40

It's not the McCanns who are being protected.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 25.06.14 8:11

@TheTruthWillOut wrote:
Either the UK offered or the PJ requested these assets. It was late July/early August when they were deployed, long after the point any protection kicked in if you believe it (some say within 24/48hrs)

REPLY: I wonder if perhaps you missed my point above? Which was this. The UK powers-that-be were working through Leicestershire Police (LP), as I think is abundantly clear from my last post. I suggest that Goncalo Amaral took a different route to get to Grime. He got there by by-passing LP. He went via Mark Harrison and Lee Rainblow. Therefore your assumption that 'the UK' was acting to get Grime involved is incorrect.  It was just 2 men: Harrison and Rainbow - who had nothing to do with LP.   

If they were being protected at that point why would they send the top cadaver/blood dogs and the top man at the NPIA for searching for missing people? 

REPLY: Who do you mean by 'they'? I suggest that 'they', i.e. those who were influencing the conduct of the Portuguese investigation, were working through LP.  'They' didn't send Martin Grime. I have no doubt that Harrison & Rainbow & Grime were acting indepdenently of the MI5-infected LP investigation. Which leads directly to my next point (below).

I would like to hear more from GA on the MI5/security service man that 'had a word' with Martin Grime at Faro airport on his way home.

REPLY:  I suggest that MI5 & the security services had just, with horror, 'caught up' with developments, hence them trying to influence Martin Grime or find out what he had discovered. It seems they failed. Grime's report would soon be in Goncalo Amaral's hands...and then, weeks later, the McCanns would be made suspects. Goncal Amaral had worked out for himself that LP were corrupt - and so he cannily by-passed them.

I think if anyone is being protected it is the UK authorities that gave inappropriate help in the first days/weeks and MI5/security services have spent the last 7 years trying to clean it up.

REPLY: An absurd theory with nothing to support it.

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Post by tigger on 25.06.14 9:12

@ Woofer

Here is the link to the report of Mark Harrison in the files:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

He also comments on Krugel.

What with Kate's dream (which Gerry said she did not have) the three witnesses who changed their statements on 11th July,
Gerry's disappointing trip to the US where he only got as far as the First Lady's PA, the subdued tone of  his blog on the 11th
Is looks as if things started to unravel from then on.

That's quite early if you think about it. Reputation rescue was going well in the press. Interviews and photo opportunities were their call, the press did not besiege their villa. This is also clear from both the diary and the blog.

At that time the best they could have done was to return to the UK and run the Ltd.Co.  meet with the many who were slogging their guts out to  raise money for the cause.  
Perhaps  the happy snaps of the two z-lebs, suntanned and generally looking relaxed started to look like one long holiday to the public.
Perhaps they started  their new and glamorous life too early - not a single shot of them searching, but imo those photos where their mail is sorted into boxes labelled  'nutty'  'vile'   etc. shows exactly what they thought of the punters and where they placed themselves.  High above the commoners.
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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 25.06.14 16:52

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@TheTruthWillOut wrote:
Either the UK offered or the PJ requested these assets. It was late July/early August when they were deployed, long after the point any protection kicked in if you believe it (some say within 24/48hrs)

REPLY: I wonder if perhaps you missed my point above? Which was this. The UK powers-that-be were working through Leicestershire Police (LP), as I think is abundantly clear from my last post. I suggest that Goncalo Amaral took a different route to get to Grime. He got there by by-passing LP. He went via Mark Harrison and Lee Rainblow. Therefore your assumption that 'the UK' was acting to get Grime involved is incorrect.  It was just 2 men: Harrison and Rainbow - who had nothing to do with LP.   

If they were being protected at that point why would they send the top cadaver/blood dogs and the top man at the NPIA for searching for missing people? 

REPLY: Who do you mean by 'they'? I suggest that 'they', i.e. those who were influencing the conduct of the Portuguese investigation, were working through LP.  'They' didn't send Martin Grime. I have no doubt that Harrison & Rainbow & Grime were acting indepdenently of the MI5-infected LP investigation. Which leads directly to my next point (below).

I would like to hear more from GA on the MI5/security service man that 'had a word' with Martin Grime at Faro airport on his way home.

REPLY:  I suggest that MI5 & the security services had just, with horror, 'caught up' with developments, hence them trying to influence Martin Grime or find out what he had discovered. It seems they failed. Grime's report would soon be in Goncalo Amaral's hands...and then, weeks later, the McCanns would be made suspects. Goncal Amaral had worked out for himself that LP were corrupt - and so he cannily by-passed them.

I think if anyone is being protected it is the UK authorities that gave inappropriate help in the first days/weeks and MI5/security services have spent the last 7 years trying to clean it up.

REPLY: An absurd theory with nothing to support it.

You no doubt have more information on the subject Tony, but I find what you say above pretty hard to believe. I never even gave it a thought that GA had to by-pass LP and go through MH.? Surely GA would have mentioned this by now though?

Tony could I ask you a yes/no question? I know you are limited with what you can say......Do you have a working theory as to why all this protection/cover up/whitewashing is happening?
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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by Tony Bennett on 25.06.14 18:38

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You no doubt have more information on the subject Tony, but I find what you say above pretty hard to believe. I never even gave it a thought that GA had to by-pass LP and go through MH? Surely GA would have mentioned this by now though?

REPLY: I am literally staggered by your response as it sounds to me like you've never read Goncalo Amaral's book, 'The Truth About A Lie'. You wonder why 'GA hasn't mentioned this'. He has! He has a whole chapter on the subject. Here is his introduction to the chapter. Please don't comment on what GA has or hasn't mentioned unless and until you have read and digested his entire book:

QUOTE from GA's book

It's July. The hypothesis of death, including by the parents, is being seriously considered. However, no lead has yet come to anything, and we find ourselves in a cul-de-sac. We have to re-centre the investigation around its point of departure, apartment 5A at the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz. We officially request the help of the best experts in criminology and forensics but also the specialist dog team from the English police. A few days later, we welcome Mark Harrison, a specialist in murder, and the search for missing persons and victims of natural disasters. National advisor to the British police, he is well known for his exceptional professional experience. He has already participated in dozens of international criminal investigations.

His work consists of defining new strategies for research. He gets to work immediately, supported by the Portuguese PJ and the investigators from Leicester and Scotland Yard. On his arrival, we place at his disposal details of the case, as well as all our material and human resources. Harrison reads up on the statements and interviews from the principal witnesses - including, of course, those of the parents and friends - all the analyses, simulations, hypotheses and cross-checking already carried out. He carries out a reconnaissance on the ground, by helicopter and then on foot. He paces the streets and the access roads to Vila da Luz and compares them to the diagrams created in the course of the investigation. Nothing is left to chance: measurement and timing of possible routes between buildings, apartments and restaurants; analyses, with the help of the best specialists, of weather, geological and maritime factors in relation to the investigation; consultation with the best forensic anthropologist in the country, who indicates for us what would be the actual state of the body in the hypothesis of death occurring on May 3rd; study of the region's natural carrion predators. All the research already conducted by hundreds of people - GNR, civil defence, firemen and other volunteers - is re-examined in detail and re-analysed.

After a week of intense work, Harrison presents the results of his study to my coordinating group. Even if we were expecting it, his conclusions confirm our worst fears. The most plausible scenario is the following: there is no doubt that Madeleine is dead, and her body is hidden somewhere in the area around Praia da Luz. He praises the quality of the work carried out by the Portuguese authorities in trying to find the little girl alive. According to him, the time has come to redirect the searches in order to find, this time, a body hidden in the surrounding area.

Not saying if I agree or disagree with Harrison's conclusions, but there is no doubt at all that GA went straight to Harrison and then to Martin Grime, by-passing Leicestershire Police.
 
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Tony could I ask you a yes/no question? I know you are limited with what you can say...Do you have a working theory as to why all this protection/cover up/whitewashing is happening?

REPLY:  IF this is a whitewash/cover-up etc, repeat IF, THEN yes I have considered why it is happening, and YES I have a number of working assumptions and hypotheses about why. 

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Re: Not a Whitewash

Post by TheTruthWillOut on 25.06.14 19:33

I haven't read GA's book Tony, just quotes posted on this and other sites. 

Just to be clear, when I said 'GA hasn't mentioned this' I meant by-passing LP. I have just read chapter 16 and the red highlighted quote you posted and I can't see any hint he by-passed LP? huh 

Two quotes:

Goncalo Amaral wrote:We officially request the help of the best experts in criminology and forensics but also the specialist dog team from the English police.

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Goncalo Amaral wrote:His work consists of defining new strategies for research. He gets to work immediately, supported by the Portuguese PJ and the investigators from Leicester and Scotland Yard

And this quote right at the beginning of the chapter:

Goncalo Amaral wrote:After Krugel's unsuccessful visit, our English colleagues vaunt the work of their specialist dog team from the South Yorkshire Police Department of Criminal Investigation

To me it seems that the English Police recommended Grime, Eddie and Keela.....but was it LP, SY or other?

Sorry if I'm coming across as thick Tony, but I'm not reading anything in chapter 16 that even hints at by-passing LP!?
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