Re: Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat

by uppatoffee 06.07.12 19:34

I would like to know who ********** *********** is in Sharon's email she received! Does it fit with this mysterious GSA clue?!

by Guest 06.07.12 20:27

uppatoffee wrote:I would like to know who ********** *********** is in Sharon's email she received! Does it fit with this mysterious GSA clue?!

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Search me. GA, I would know [and not connect], but GSA ...

by ShuBob 06.07.12 20:30

Châtelaine wrote:
uppatoffee wrote:I would like to know who ********** *********** is in Sharon's email she received! Does it fit with this mysterious GSA clue?!
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Search me. GA, I would know [and not connect], but GSA ...

GA certainly didn't go surfing with Gerry, that's for sure Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat - Page 7 110921

by sweetex 06.07.12 20:38

ShuBob wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:
uppatoffee wrote:I would like to know who ********** *********** is in Sharon's email she received! Does it fit with this mysterious GSA clue?!
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Search me. GA, I would know [and not connect], but GSA ...

GA certainly didn't go surfing with Gerry, that's for sure

It seems that the GSA is misleading. It comes from the google translation. The original is in fact M.J.S. Very strange that google does that, but it seems that was what happened. (Also according to someone on the MM forum)

Apologies.

The mystery man's initials is M.J.S according to the original report

by ShuBob 06.07.12 20:43

I think this is the first time I've heard the claim that Gerry surfed in Portugal. I was only aware of O'Brien and Oldfield.

by uppatoffee 06.07.12 20:46

I seem to remember reading that Robert Naylor and James Gorrod also "windsurfed" that week. I think Naylor had lessons with RO'B or MO, can't remember which one.

Would Ocean Club have had computerised booking back then for activities? I doubt that paper copies of records would exist by now.

by uppatoffee 06.07.12 20:49

There was a ********** who was in the Tapas restaurant on the night of 3 May. He had a booking for 2 at 9pm.

by uppatoffee 06.07.12 20:50

His middle initial is J and he is from Leicester.

by sweetex 06.07.12 20:53

uppatoffee wrote:There was a M******* S*******who was in the Tapas restaurant on the night of 3 May. He had a booking for 2 at 9pm.

First time I heard of him. Although I'm not clued up on all the guest lists etc.

@ShuBob - First time I too hear about Gerry surfing

by Guest 06.07.12 21:01

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by Pershing36 06.07.12 21:11

I have another theory.

One (claimed) property developer who has received lots of cash in libel cases has wasted it (their past actions have not shown them to be the most astute business person) decides to try and provoke another libel case. Most people I meet who claim property development as profession are actually unemployed, I think I heard that before in somebodies PJ interview??

He contacts another property developer who he has had contacts with and gets them to make a up a story. The person called upon does it returns to a non-EU country and safe from prosecution. The press is given a far fetched story on the hope it provokes them to write stories that can later be deemed as libellous.

Property developer sues and wins his case because he knows damn well that the far fetch story is completely fabricated. In the past being a suspect in this case has been extremely lucrative. This is a set up I feel, however greed is often peoples downfall.

Who needs a fund aye!!

What you think??

by russiandoll 06.07.12 21:15

a small point, the Olive Press is now reporting this and along with other media is quoting Birch as stating he wants to bring closure to Madeleine's family. I heard him saying he would like closure for everyone involved in the case. And might I add, mainly for the missing child.

Well I guess speculation is rife all over, I think I will wait now until someone with the authority to do something takes this up and does something with it. It seems to have created a stir amongst many without the power to do anything but debate, but only silence from the parties who can follow it up. The more I think about it the more bewildered I am becoming.

by sweetex 06.07.12 21:27

russiandoll wrote: a small point, the Olive Press is now reporting this and along with other media is quoting Birch as stating he wants to bring closure to Madeleine's family. I heard him saying he would like closure for everyone involved in the case. And might I add, mainly for the missing child.

Well I guess speculation is rife all over, I think I will wait now until someone with the authority to do something takes this up and does something with it. It seems to have created a stir amongst many without the power to do anything but debate, but only silence from the parties who can follow it up. The more I think about it the more bewildered I am becoming.

Agreed. Saw the Olive Press article, and still no comment from TM either. confused

by Pershing36 06.07.12 21:31

Bewildered is a great word. I bet the McCanns are as well. I have no doubt they know nothing about this. Not that it matters they are on a win, win. If this is the fake I think it is. They have shown no love for him and can easily drum up massive sympathy claiming it is just exploiting the situation for personal gain.

My suspicion comes from the fact that he has been very adamant that the previous suspect in this residence is not involved. If the press run wild with theories that base is well and truly covered and it will be solely on their heads.

by ShuBob 06.07.12 21:41

Pershing36 wrote:Bewildered is a great word. I bet the McCanns are as well. I have no doubt they know nothing about this. Not that it matters they are on a win, win. If this is the fake I think it is. They have shown no love for him and can easily drum up massive sympathy claiming it is just exploiting the situation for personal gain.

My suspicion comes from the fact that he has been very adamant that the previous suspect in this residence is not involved. If the press run wild with theories that base is well and truly covered and it will be solely on their heads.

Although they commented during the Arade dam search (they had a tendency to give comment about everything in those days. How things have changed!), they gave no indication that they actually had links with Aragao. Look how that's turning out. I wouldn't rule out any links with Birch either.

by sweetex 06.07.12 21:45

He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch

by Pershing36 06.07.12 21:51

The money isn't running out for them just yet but maybe it is for the others.

Somebody said in the past on this forum follow the money. Regardless of what really happened that night this horrible situation has been a cash cow for others. Problem is the payments were some years ago and must have come as easy money for some.

Somebody appears to keep returning to mum every time it runs out.

by Woofer 06.07.12 22:06

sweetex wrote:He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch

Note he says he started this investigation 15 months ago which, again, ties in with when the anonymous e mail was received by Sharoni (March 2011).

He says he heard back from SY saying they spent all day last Monday discussing it. So I wonder when he informed SY, was it at the end of the week before? - must have been around the same time SM was in contact with them on the Thursday or Friday.

by ShuBob 06.07.12 22:08

Seems something is definitely afoot. Here's an article published today on the BBC website with interesting use of the McCanns' picture:

Missing persons: Families could get 'certificate of presumed death'

Among those to give evidence to the Commons justice committee was the family of former Manic Street Preachers guitarist Richey Edwards, who disappeared in 1995 and Kate McCann, whose daughter Madeleine disappeared in 2007.

The Ministry of Justice has accepted the committee's principal recommendation for a new certificate of presumed death, with broadly the same legal status as a death certificate, which would give families the authority to begin sorting out their loved one's financial affairs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18736372

by Guest 06.07.12 22:11

sweetex wrote:He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch

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Whatever this whole story may be about ... it was refreshing to hear someone doing a proper interview, asking proper questions ...

by ShuBob 06.07.12 22:13

Woofer wrote:
sweetex wrote:He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch

Note he says he started this investigation 15 months ago which, again, ties in with when the anonymous e mail was received by Sharoni (March 2011).

He says he heard back from SY saying they spent all day last Monday discussing it. So I wonder when he informed SY, was it at the end of the week before? - must have been around the same time SM was in contact with them on the Thursday or Friday.

Please who's/what's SM?

by sweetex 06.07.12 22:15

Châtelaine wrote:
sweetex wrote:He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch
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Whatever this whole story may be about ... it was refreshing to hear someone doing a proper interview, asking proper questions ...

I thought the same. Interviewer was impressive. He definitely asked the right questions.

by Woofer 06.07.12 22:23

ShuBob wrote:
Woofer wrote:
sweetex wrote:He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch

Note he says he started this investigation 15 months ago which, again, ties in with when the anonymous e mail was received by Sharoni (March 2011).

He says he heard back from SY saying they spent all day last Monday discussing it. So I wonder when he informed SY, was it at the end of the week before? - must have been around the same time SM was in contact with them on the Thursday or Friday.

Please who's/what's SM?

Steel Magnolia

by ShuBob 06.07.12 22:26

Ok thanks.

by Woofer 06.07.12 22:29

sweetex wrote:
uppatoffee wrote:There was a ********* who was in the Tapas restaurant on the night of 3 May. He had a booking for 2 at 9pm.

First time I heard of him. Although I'm not clued up on all the guest lists etc.

@ShuBob - First time I too hear about Gerry surfing

There is a ************ who is into sailing, snowboarding and has a marketing business, see

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mike-sperrey/6/849/438

but might be a different person as he`s from Warwickshire.

by Guest 06.07.12 22:29

Woofer wrote:[...] must have been around the same time SM was in contact with them on the Thursday or Friday.

Please who's/what's SM?[/quote]

Steel Magnolia[/quote]
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Would it be asked too much to use less abbreviations? I am obviously not the only one to have the eyebrows raised under the hairline every time and again ...

ETA
& SM has sooo many other meanings ...

by russiandoll 06.07.12 22:29

sweetex wrote:He was on Capetalk today here in SA.

http://soundcloud.com/567-capetalk/stephen-birch-on-claims-he

Only saw the link now on twitter. New interview with Birch

just heard it, was going to post link, thanks for doing that. Interesting.

by **sharonl** 06.07.12 22:31

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/ex-inspector-chefe-da-pj-quer-reabertura-do-processo-de-maddie

Ex-chief inspector of the PJ want to reopen Maddie's process Antonio Teixeira, a former chief inspector of the Homicide Section of the Judicial Police (PJ), argues that prosecutors should reopen the case of Madeleine McCann, the British girl disappeared in Praia da Luz for five years. In his view, should be made excavation in the yard of Robert Murat, the British resident in the Algarve which came to be investigated as a suspect in the abduction of Maddie.

The statements of Antonio Teixeira follows on from private investigation revealed firsthand by the CM, in which the South African businessman Stephen Birch entered the property several times and Murat used a geo-radar to look underground, reinforcing the belief Maddie's corpse that is buried there. "To dispel all doubts, there is no better alternative than making the excavations," said former chief inspector of the Judicial Police.

by Guest 06.07.12 22:32

Ex-chief inspector of the PJ want to reopen Maddie's process

Antonio Teixeira, a former chief inspector of the Homicide Section of the Judicial Police (PJ), argues that prosecutors should reopen the case of Madeleine McCann, the British girl disappeared in Praia da Luz for five years. In his view, should be made excavation in the yard of Robert Murat, the British resident in the Algarve which came to be investigated as a suspect in the abduction of Maddie.

The statements of Antonio Teixeira follows on from private investigation revealed firsthand by the CM, in which the South African businessman Stephen Birch entered the property several times and Murat used a geo-radar to look underground, reinforcing the belief Maddie's corpse that is buried there.

"To dispel all doubts, there is no better alternative than making the excavations," said former chief inspector of the Judicial Police.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/ex-inspector-chefe-da-pj-quer-reabertura-do-processo-de-maddie

google translation

by sweetex 06.07.12 22:34

sharonl wrote:http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/ex-inspector-chefe-da-pj-quer-reabertura-do-processo-de-maddie

Ex-chief inspector of the PJ want to reopen Maddie's process Antonio Teixeira, a former chief inspector of the Homicide Section of the Judicial Police (PJ), argues that prosecutors should reopen the case of Madeleine McCann, the British girl disappeared in Praia da Luz for five years. In his view, should be made excavation in the yard of Robert Murat, the British resident in the Algarve which came to be investigated as a suspect in the abduction of Maddie.

The statements of Antonio Teixeira follows on from private investigation revealed firsthand by the CM, in which the South African businessman Stephen Birch entered the property several times and Murat used a geo-radar to look underground, reinforcing the belief Maddie's corpse that is buried there. "To dispel all doubts, there is no better alternative than making the excavations," said former chief inspector of the Judicial Police.

I agree with his last line. If they don't do it now, the "what if" will always be there if she is not found.

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