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Post by BlueBag on 13.06.15 8:13

Maybe it was just cuddle cat that was in direct contact with cadaverine?

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 8:14

@BlueBag wrote:
@canada12 wrote:
@tigger wrote:
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@Portia wrote:Only wearing the same set of checkered pants too


and carrying your child's cuddly toy.
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd. I feel  they were props. Textiles contaminate quite quickly and they were both on the bed for hours. 

Now if Kate's clothes were contaminated and travelled with her, they would have contaminated everything in her suitcase. That was not the case. 

So that would mean that cuddlecat was contaminated at a later date? In fact Jon Corner said that the check pants were bought in Portugal, after Maddie disappeared.

But then we have the conundrum of the birthday cake photo which clearly shows Kate wearing the check pants in the same photo as an alive Maddie. Unless they're different check pants. Or the birthday cake photo is not as it appears.

Seems so.
She sure liked those black & white check pants.

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Post by BlueBag on 13.06.15 8:15

@Joss wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:
@canada12 wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@lj wrote:
@Portia wrote:Only wearing the same set of checkered pants too


and carrying your child's cuddly toy.
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd. I feel  they were props. Textiles contaminate quite quickly and they were both on the bed for hours. 

Now if Kate's clothes were contaminated and travelled with her, they would have contaminated everything in her suitcase. That was not the case. 

So that would mean that cuddlecat was contaminated at a later date? In fact Jon Corner said that the check pants were bought in Portugal, after Maddie disappeared.

But then we have the conundrum of the birthday cake photo which clearly shows Kate wearing the check pants in the same photo as an alive Maddie. Unless they're different check pants. Or the birthday cake photo is not as it appears.

Seems so.
I think the check pants in question were a much smaller check, but just going from memory so not 100% sure about it/
I think you are wrong.
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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 8:53

@BlueBag wrote:
@Joss wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:
@canada12 wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@lj wrote:
@Portia wrote:Only wearing the same set of checkered pants too


and carrying your child's cuddly toy.
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd. I feel  they were props. Textiles contaminate quite quickly and they were both on the bed for hours. 

Now if Kate's clothes were contaminated and travelled with her, they would have contaminated everything in her suitcase. That was not the case. 

So that would mean that cuddlecat was contaminated at a later date? In fact Jon Corner said that the check pants were bought in Portugal, after Maddie disappeared.

But then we have the conundrum of the birthday cake photo which clearly shows Kate wearing the check pants in the same photo as an alive Maddie. Unless they're different check pants. Or the birthday cake photo is not as it appears.

Seems so.
I think the check pants in question were a much smaller check, but just going from memory so not 100% sure about it/
I think you are wrong.
Probably.

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 9:18

Yes i was wrong about the size of the checkered pants

http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CLOTHES.htm

1 - A pair of Black and white checked  "HOBBS" size 8,
2 - A  Top woman's in white, "H & M1 ', Euro-size S.
VOLUME VIIIa_Processo_2112
[url=http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/VOLUME VIIIa_Processo_2112.jpg][/url]

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 9:49

Thanks for the link Ladyinred.

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Post by tigger on 13.06.15 11:34

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The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd.

Hang on !  Non sequitur alert.
Eddie came to PdL a long time later,  He did alert to cuddle cat, but the blanket had been whooshed by then, and was never seen again.
I would guess that the bed room had been made back into a twin by then,
I understand that the beds were checked as well, in any case Eddie alerted to the wardrobe where equal time had elapsed. A mattress or/and textile covered base would hold the scent for at least that long. Presumably the wardrobe shelves had been given the odd wipe since 3/5. Had there been scent on the bed, he'd have alerted. So if there was nothing on the bed, the blanket and cuddlecat can't have transferred scent to the bed, making it likely that they had no scent on them either at least on the evening of the third. 
Another complication is that there were likely more cuddlecats since Kate donated a couple of dozen to Metodo3 errm to motivate them, she recommended squeezing and rattling  them I believe. 

However, I see below that the pants were bought in the UK - almost certainly. Hobbs is not a cheap brand. So
Jon Corner lied about the pants being bought in Portugal. 

So it is possible that another cuddlecat was returned to Kate, a CC with a lot of scent on it, consequently contaminating her clothes?  All wild surmises..
i think GA said that CC had the strongest scent? So when did Kate wash CC the first time?

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Post by BlueBag on 13.06.15 11:59

@tigger wrote:making it likely that they had no scent on them either at least on the evening of the third. 

I fail to see your logic.

Maybe CC wasn't ever on the bed after any potential accident.
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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 12:43

CANINE SEARCH OF MR McCANN'S VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY.

The villa interior, garden, and all property within were searched by the EVRD.
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge
. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


From this it looks like CC was located in the lounge room by the EVRD dog when he gave his alert, not bedroom.

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 13:00

We saw CC was supposedly on the bed at the time Madeleine was reported missing, but didn't K. McC state CC
was placed on some non existent shelf in the child's bedroom by the theoretical abductor? So when exactly could CC have been in contact with cadaver? Was CC placed with Maddie after she died, and then on second thoughts removed and Maddie then wrapped in the pink blanket before being removed from the apartment, but CC kept by Kate on second thought?


'Gerry paused over Madeleine, who – a typical doctor’s observation, this – was lying almost in "the recovery position" with Cuddle Cat, the toy her godfather, John Corner, had bought her, and her comfort blanket up near her head, and Gerry thought how gorgeous, how lovely-looking she was and how lucky he was.'

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id60.html



Missing Madeleine McCann's favourite pink Cuddle Cat toy was taken from her arms as she slept and placed beyond her reach by her kidnapper. That is why police are certain Madeleine was snatched while she was asleep - and was NOT killed or injured in the holiday apartment.

 

When her mum Kate, 38, tucked Madeleine into bed, the four-year-old was cuddling the toy - but it was later found placed on a ledge that Madeleine could not have reached.

 

There is also further "concrete evidence" that Madeleine was still ALIVE when she left the holiday apartment. Her kidnapper had a window of just five minutes to strike - from when dad Gerry last checked on the children until family friend Jane Tanner saw a man carrying away a child she is sure was Madeleine wrapped in a blanket. The new revelations rubbish reports in Portuguese newspapers this week that she was murdered or died in an accident inside the villa. And they come as local police Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa ruled Gerry and Kate out of the inquiry - and admitted for the first time Madeleine could be dead.

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Post by tigger on 13.06.15 13:24

@Joss wrote:We saw CC was supposedly on the bed at the time Madeleine was reported missing, but didn't K. McC state CC
was placed on some non existent shelf in the child's bedroom by the theoretical abductor? So when exactly could CC have been in contact with cadaver? Was CC placed with Maddie after she died, and then on second thoughts removed and Maddie then wrapped in the pink blanket before being removed from the apartment, but CC kept by Kate on second thought?


'Gerry paused over Madeleine, who – a typical doctor’s observation, this – was lying almost in "the recovery position" with Cuddle Cat, the toy her godfather, John Corner, had bought her, and her comfort blanket up near her head, and Gerry thought how gorgeous, how lovely-looking she was and how lucky he was.'

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id60.html



Missing Madeleine McCann's favourite pink Cuddle Cat toy was taken from her arms as she slept and placed beyond her reach by her kidnapper. That is why police are certain Madeleine was snatched while she was asleep - and was NOT killed or injured in the holiday apartment.

 

When her mum Kate, 38, tucked Madeleine into bed, the four-year-old was cuddling the toy - but it was later found placed on a ledge that Madeleine could not have reached.

 

There is also further "concrete evidence" that Madeleine was still ALIVE when she left the holiday apartment. Her kidnapper had a window of just five minutes to strike - from when dad Gerry last checked on the children until family friend Jane Tanner saw a man carrying away a child she is sure was Madeleine wrapped in a blanket. The new revelations rubbish reports in Portuguese newspapers this week that she was murdered or died in an accident inside the villa. And they come as local police Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa ruled Gerry and Kate out of the inquiry - and admitted for the first time Madeleine could be dead.
That's my take on it more or less. Possible that cuddlecat or a cuddlecat was given to be with Maddie's body and it came back to Kate - also possible that it was exchanged for the  pink blanket which really was a connection with Maddie whilst - imo - Cuddlecat wasn't. One version was that her godfather Jon Corner had bought it for her birthday - it's an atavistic thing, giving the dead their treasured possessions. Makes sense if she was given the blanket which appears to have been much on Kate's mind. 

Just thinking out loud here. Imo Cuddlecat was always a prop and the two websites in that name plus the 20 odd given to Metodo would support that imo.

But to get back to the blue bag: could both the blanket and CC have been put in there when taken out of the apartment? That might explain the 'clean' bed and heavily contaminated CC.

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 13:34

@tigger wrote:
@Joss wrote:We saw CC was supposedly on the bed at the time Madeleine was reported missing, but didn't K. McC state CC
was placed on some non existent shelf in the child's bedroom by the theoretical abductor? So when exactly could CC have been in contact with cadaver? Was CC placed with Maddie after she died, and then on second thoughts removed and Maddie then wrapped in the pink blanket before being removed from the apartment, but CC kept by Kate on second thought?


'Gerry paused over Madeleine, who – a typical doctor’s observation, this – was lying almost in "the recovery position" with Cuddle Cat, the toy her godfather, John Corner, had bought her, and her comfort blanket up near her head, and Gerry thought how gorgeous, how lovely-looking she was and how lucky he was.'

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id60.html



Missing Madeleine McCann's favourite pink Cuddle Cat toy was taken from her arms as she slept and placed beyond her reach by her kidnapper. That is why police are certain Madeleine was snatched while she was asleep - and was NOT killed or injured in the holiday apartment.

 

When her mum Kate, 38, tucked Madeleine into bed, the four-year-old was cuddling the toy - but it was later found placed on a ledge that Madeleine could not have reached.

 

There is also further "concrete evidence" that Madeleine was still ALIVE when she left the holiday apartment. Her kidnapper had a window of just five minutes to strike - from when dad Gerry last checked on the children until family friend Jane Tanner saw a man carrying away a child she is sure was Madeleine wrapped in a blanket. The new revelations rubbish reports in Portuguese newspapers this week that she was murdered or died in an accident inside the villa. And they come as local police Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa ruled Gerry and Kate out of the inquiry - and admitted for the first time Madeleine could be dead.
That's my take on it more or less. Possible that cuddlecat or a cuddlecat was given to be with Maddie's body and it came back to Kate - also possible that it was exchanged for the  pink blanket which really was a connection with Maddie whilst - imo - Cuddlecat wasn't. One version was that her godfather Jon Corner had bought it for her birthday - it's an atavistic thing, giving the dead their treasured possessions. Makes sense if she was given the blanket which appears to have been much on Kate's mind. 

Just thinking out loud here. Imo Cuddlecat was always a prop and the two websites in that name plus the 20 odd given to Metodo would support that imo.

But to get back to the blue bag: could both the blanket and CC have been put in there when taken out of the apartment? That might explain the 'clean' bed and heavily contaminated CC.
Hi Tigger, Yes i think that is a possible scenario.

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Post by PeterMac on 13.06.15 14:08

@Joss wrote:CANINE SEARCH OF MR McCANN'S VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY.

The villa interior, garden, and all property within were searched by the EVRD.
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge
. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


From this it looks like CC was located in the lounge room by the EVRD dog when he gave his alert, not bedroom.


ALERT.
This was in their Second villa, not in 5A. And Madeleine was never in that one (so far as we know )

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Post by lj on 13.06.15 14:57

@tigger wrote:
@lj wrote:
@Portia wrote:Only wearing the same set of checkered pants too


and carrying your child's cuddly toy.
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd. I feel  they were props. Textiles contaminate quite quickly and they were both on the bed for hours. 

Now if Kate's clothes were contaminated and travelled with her, they would have contaminated everything in her suitcase. That was not the case. 

So that would mean that cuddlecat was contaminated at a later date? In fact Jon Corner said that the check pants were bought in Portugal, after Maddie disappeared.

Maybe cuddlecat and blankie were contaminated the night of the 3rd, just not on the bed.

I missed that Jon Corner comment. His statements have for me the same value as those from Clarrie though: not a syllable of truth, but interesting because they give away there must be a reason to say so.
I agree that if those pants were contaminated before the vacation , and then traveled in a suitcase, it would be almost certain the rest of the clothes would get a whiff too.

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Post by lj on 13.06.15 15:01

@BlueBag wrote:Maybe it was just cuddle cat that was in direct contact with cadaverine?



God this photo says it all though. That's not grief, that's guilt!

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Post by lj on 13.06.15 15:07

@tigger wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
@tigger wrote:
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd.

Hang on !  Non sequitur alert.
Eddie came to PdL a long time later,  He did alert to cuddle cat, but the blanket had been whooshed by then, and was never seen again.
I would guess that the bed room had been made back into a twin by then,
I understand that the beds were checked as well, in any case Eddie alerted to the wardrobe where equal time had elapsed. A mattress or/and textile covered base would hold the scent for at least that long. Presumably the wardrobe shelves had been given the odd wipe since 3/5. Had there been scent on the bed, he'd have alerted. So if there was nothing on the bed, the blanket and cuddlecat can't have transferred scent to the bed, making it likely that they had no scent on them either at least on the evening of the third. 
Another complication is that there were likely more cuddlecats since Kate donated a couple of dozen to Metodo3 errm to motivate them, she recommended squeezing and rattling  them I believe. 

However, I see below that the pants were bought in the UK - almost certainly. Hobbs is not a cheap brand. So
Jon Corner lied about the pants being bought in Portugal. 

So it is possible that another cuddlecat was returned to Kate, a CC with a lot of scent on it, consequently contaminating her clothes?  All wild surmises..
i think GA said that CC had the strongest scent? So when did Kate wash CC the first time?


There were at least 2 cuddle cats when Eddie and Keela came, Martin Grimes found that rather revealing.

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 15:08

@PeterMac wrote:
@Joss wrote:CANINE SEARCH OF MR McCANN'S VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY.

The villa interior, garden, and all property within were searched by the EVRD.
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge
. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


From this it looks like CC was located in the lounge room by the EVRD dog when he gave his alert, not bedroom.


ALERT.
This was in their Second villa, not in 5A.  And Madeleine was never in that one (so far as we know )
Sorry i guess i should of specified that, but thought it would be obvious from the dogs alerts in the apartment 5A where Maddie supposedly disappeared from.

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Post by lj on 13.06.15 15:14

@Joss wrote:CANINE SEARCH OF MR McCANN'S VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY.

The villa interior, garden, and all property within were searched by the EVRD.
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge
. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


From this it looks like CC was located in the lounge room by the EVRD dog when he gave his alert, not bedroom.

Eddie alerted to CC in the lounge of the villa they moved too, not app 5A
It's strange I don't see it in the report, but there is a video of Eddie finding a second cuddle cat in a kitchen cabinet in the villa.

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 15:14

@lj wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@lj wrote:
@Portia wrote:Only wearing the same set of checkered pants too


and carrying your child's cuddly toy.
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd. I feel  they were props. Textiles contaminate quite quickly and they were both on the bed for hours. 

Now if Kate's clothes were contaminated and travelled with her, they would have contaminated everything in her suitcase. That was not the case. 

So that would mean that cuddlecat was contaminated at a later date? In fact Jon Corner said that the check pants were bought in Portugal, after Maddie disappeared.

Maybe cuddlecat and blankie were contaminated the night of the 3rd, just not on the bed.

I missed that Jon Corner comment. His statements have for me the same value as those from Clarrie though: not a syllable of truth, but interesting because they give away there must be a reason to say so.
I agree that if those pants were contaminated before the vacation , and then traveled in a suitcase, it would be almost certain the rest of the clothes would get a whiff too.
That is what i am thinking too and would tie in with CC being contaminated with cadaver as the EVRD dog alerted, and then of course we have the disappeared blue bag & pink blanket which could very well be wherever Maddie is?
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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 15:55

@lj wrote:
@Joss wrote:CANINE SEARCH OF MR McCANN'S VILLA, PRESENT OCCUPANCY.

The villa interior, garden, and all property within were searched by the EVRD.
The only alert indication given was when the dog located a pink cuddly toy in
the villas lounge
. The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened
separately.

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent
contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


From this it looks like CC was located in the lounge room by the EVRD dog when he gave his alert, not bedroom.

Eddie alerted in the lounge of the villa they moved too, not app 5A
It's strange I don't see it in the report, but there is a video of Eddie finding a second cuddle cat in a kitchen cabinet in the villa.
Thanks lj, i didn't realize that, i thought the alerts behind the sofa, in the cupboard in bedroom etc. were in Apartment 5A, and that the clothing & CC were alerted to elsewhere, and didn't realize there were 2 CC's, Shocked

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Post by Joss on 13.06.15 15:56

@lj wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:
@tigger wrote:
The bed Maddie allegedly slept on got no reaction from Eddie, which means that cuddlecat and the blanket were not contaminated on the night of the 3rd.

Hang on !  Non sequitur alert.
Eddie came to PdL a long time later,  He did alert to cuddle cat, but the blanket had been whooshed by then, and was never seen again.
I would guess that the bed room had been made back into a twin by then,
I understand that the beds were checked as well, in any case Eddie alerted to the wardrobe where equal time had elapsed. A mattress or/and textile covered base would hold the scent for at least that long. Presumably the wardrobe shelves had been given the odd wipe since 3/5. Had there been scent on the bed, he'd have alerted. So if there was nothing on the bed, the blanket and cuddlecat can't have transferred scent to the bed, making it likely that they had no scent on them either at least on the evening of the third. 
Another complication is that there were likely more cuddlecats since Kate donated a couple of dozen to Metodo3 errm to motivate them, she recommended squeezing and rattling  them I believe. 

However, I see below that the pants were bought in the UK - almost certainly. Hobbs is not a cheap brand. So
Jon Corner lied about the pants being bought in Portugal. 

So it is possible that another cuddlecat was returned to Kate, a CC with a lot of scent on it, consequently contaminating her clothes?  All wild surmises..
i think GA said that CC had the strongest scent? So when did Kate wash CC the first time?


There were at least 2 cuddle cats when Eddie and Keela came, Martin Grimes found that rather revealing.
I bet he did.

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Post by tigger on 13.06.15 16:04

I love this!  So they were cleared out if 5a  around 0400. So what exactly did they take with them? 
The difference between the two lots of photos would give a clue, I need to have a look on a proper computer. 
Cuddlecat the prop, blanket and blue bag  gone, Canon camera?  Gerry's beige pants? 

Pink blanket would have ben returned by the GNR I expect? All the things that weren't there were gone too: pink top, monsoon shorts, from the last photo..big grin

 Bluebag, I think you're right. Could never understand why only Kate was contaminated.

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Re: Goncalo Amaral talks about The missing sports bag

Post by Joss on 13.06.15 16:07

Inspection of the apartments.

Date: July 31st 2007 - 8pm. Report:


Participants:

PJ: Tavares A. & Ricardo P. Inspectors
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime (UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert),
Eddie & Keela (English Springers)
Silvia B. Manager of the Ocean Club complex.


On that date, inspections were conducted in the apartments occupied by members of the McCann family as well as the group who were with them at the time of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. It was only on that date that the apartment, identified as that of the parents, was empty allowing further investigation which was authorised by the respective occupants. Thus, at the appointed time, the search with the dogs began, covering the following apartments:


5A:

From 8.30pm to 9.20pm, the dogs go through.
8.20pm: The cadaver dog, "marks," the couple's wardrobe area in the bedroom.
8.22pm: The cadaver dog, "marks" an area behind the sofa in the sitting room near the window overlooking the road.

From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through.
8.10 (
should it be 9.10?
) The dog, "marks" an area of floor behind the sofa in the sitting room, near the window overlooking the road.






5B: 9.24 to 9.27pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

5D: 9.29 to 9.34pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

5H : 9.35 to 9.38pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

4G : 9.42 to 9.45pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

Garden belonging to apartment 5A (with access via the balcony and the steps):

9.49 to 10pm: The cadaver dog "marks" an area of the garden immediately below the window.

Date: 01 ao? 2007 - 06h00

Inspection of the surrounding areas.

Date: August 1st - 6am

After evaluation of the area surrounding the Ocean Club tourist village, based in Praia da Luz, taking account of the characteristic topography of the ground and the distance from where the small child Madeleine McCann disappeared, an inspection was carried out with the help of dogs specialised in the detection of cadaver odour, in various places, such as described:

Etc.


http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

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Re: Goncalo Amaral talks about The missing sports bag

Post by BlueBag on 13.06.15 16:33

@lj wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:Maybe it was just cuddle cat that was in direct contact with cadaverine?



God this photo says it all though. That's not grief, that's guilt!

Actually.. doesn't this strengthen the case for dogs?

You can see here exactly where cross contamination would have happened.
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