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Post by Autumn on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:28 pm

Since the beginning of this case, there have been numerous connections to The Netherlands such as:

1. Gerry has worked in The Netherlands and has many relations there.

2. The woman who claims to have seen Madeleine in Belgium is Dutch.

3. The woman who claimed to have seen Madeleine at a Petrol Station in Morocco lives or has lived in The Netherlands.

4. The girl who reported seeing Madeleine dancing in a French restaurant is Dutch.

5. Castle Craig has a branch in The Netherlands and Gerry worked in that country for a while - did he work there?

6. The first diversion tactic was sent to a Dutch newspaper, a letter along with a map.

7. The owner of the animal crematorium was run by a Dutch criminal, Evert Hendrik, who had spent almost 8 years in prison for planting bombs in The Netherlands.

8. PJ interviewed 2 Dutch newspaper reporters who claimed to have found a towel in the area identified as a possible burial location in a tip-off from a Dutch source.

9. Gerry mentions on his blog he met up with friends on 7th June in The Netherlands, then a week later there a leaks to the Dutch press about where Madeleine's body is.


10. The Strongwood Investigation.

Strongwood investigates Madeleine McCann case
august 7, 2007

A special missing person team of Investigations Company Strongwood has been investigating the Madeleine McCann case as of the end of June. The team was hired by a group of more than 105.000 Dutch citizens to do this investigation at only the costs of research.

The team has conducted an intensive preliminary analysis based on all the facts, scenarios, information, leads, broadcastings of interviews and images received by tested clairvoyance from the Netherlands and USA.


On the 31 of July the Team wend to Praia da Luz to investigate and conclude if al findings where possible. The team was formed of three detectives, a child expert in special children with a disorder, and a tested person with special abilities.


It became clear that the scenario of what might have happened became closer and closer to the leads this team was heading to. Because the media was watching the investigation team of the Portuguese police with two British investigators and well trained dogs, the Strongwood team could do their research without intervention.


While profiling involved people and researching our facts the team concluded that Madeleine could have been died before 19:00 we also found that Madeleine is a kid with a disability (autistic) which could explain her behavior and explain some witness declarations. The dogs of the British police marked the dead of the child in the apartment with traces of found blood. If death is marked than the child must have been death in that apartment for a couple of hours. Our team thinks she is moved from there with a white combi/transit vehicle to a beach location, while dumping the body into the sea. The person who has been seen walking with a child is a contradiction, but because one of the friends stated this witness declaration she would have recognize the child as Madeleine.


We are convinced she has been given to the ocean and our (oceanic) calculations of May were slightly off course due to miscalculated temperatures and currencies onsite. These calculations have to be done again to indicate the course of a body in the ocean; we are also calculating a possible time of dissolution and take into account animals eating of the body. We have a few possible marked places we already checked and checked, but maybe we where to early as the indication now are end of August beginning of September.


We are convinced that the body has been dropped into the sea at the rocks on the left of the beach. The images who were received from our special person (in May, June, July and onsite) are in-line with the facts an also indicate what we expected.


What is happened is not sure, our calculations and facts indicated a possible time of dead or as much as a time she was already dead. If this had happened inside the apartment it indicates a possibility that resort employees, the McCann’s or their friends, or one of them knew this. Also the fact that the place could have been cleaned points in that direction.


Robert Murat has been seen on the evening/night of the 3rd the question is was he at home on the time he stated to the police. Our investigation leads in no way to this suspect other than that Murat could have done some things he didn’t want the police finding out before Madeleine even disappeared.
We had contacts with the Portuguese police and attended them on our investigation but as the new team with the British was formed, all communications channels where closed. We have tried to get our team in contact with the British investigators leading the portages team but we could not reach them at different times or where busy investigating.


Our team had to leave Portugal because we ran out of money which was gathered by the large group of people who hired us.


Back home we started to gather all information and findings of our investigation in Portugal and we are now investigation all this information and concentrating on the questions it gives. We are also watching the given statements on video by the McCann’s for psychological profiling. There are some indications that signals are not in the right context.

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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:34 pm

I have another possible connection!!

The guest who left one day early with his children, has an ex-wife who is Dutch and she lives in Holland.
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Post by Judge Mental on Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:45 pm

laugh

That should be enough to get some bowels rumbling.
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Post by theolivebranch on Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:47 pm

Uuumm The Dutch Connection 234726 didn't Gerry's stolen wallet come back to him via the Netherlands?
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Post by theolivebranch on Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:48 pm

Weren't the twins conceived through IVF in the Netherlands ?
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Post by littlepixie on Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:35 pm

Hasn't one of the other male Tapas got friends there?
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Post by sharonl on Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:09 am

Who is Amanda Jayne Kimberly Oosterbaan? - Strong McCann supporter, sounds very Dutch to me but apparently lives in Australia.

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Post by lj on Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:39 am

What do you mean Dutch connection???

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Post by YNG on Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:03 pm

Wasn't Holland the first place the McCann's went to after she went missing ?

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Post by YNG on Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:48 pm

@sharonl wrote:Kate and Gerry in Holland


Madeleine McCann 'spotted' in Holland three days after she was kidnapped

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/06/madeleine-mccann-spotted-in-holland-three-days-after-she-was-kidnapped-115875-20685848/



What a load of lies that Newspaper report is mad

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Post by sharonl on Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:54 pm

@YNG wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Kate and Gerry in Holland


Madeleine McCann 'spotted' in Holland three days after she was kidnapped

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/06/madeleine-mccann-spotted-in-holland-three-days-after-she-was-kidnapped-115875-20685848/



What a load of lies that Newspaper report is mad

What do you expect from the Daily Mirror? big grin

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Post by YNG on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:01 pm

@sharonl wrote:
@YNG wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Kate and Gerry in Holland


Madeleine McCann 'spotted' in Holland three days after she was kidnapped

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/08/06/madeleine-mccann-spotted-in-holland-three-days-after-she-was-kidnapped-115875-20685848/



What a load of lies that Newspaper report is mad



What do you expect from the Daily Mirror? big grin

Whatever happened to proper journalism in this country lol4


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Post by sharonl on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:28 pm

@YNG wrote:Whatever happened to proper journalism in this country lol4


This perhaps

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Post by Autumn on Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:15 pm


The McCanns lived with Madeleine for a year in The Netherlands during the time that Kate was pregnant with the twins.

Were the twins born in The Netherlands? Had the McCanns connections with a hospital there.? Was Madeleine born there and, for reasons unbeknown, documents relating to her birth were destroyed?. Not sure if there is any truth in this but it has been said by some that Jane Tanner, who was pregnant at the time, attended Madeleine's birth.
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Post by littlepixie on Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:14 pm

Is it true that MI5 were there when Kate McCann was questioned? If true why would that be. Kids go missing every day. Do MI5 always attend?
Was there something special or different regarding Maddie?
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Post by tigger on Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:21 pm

@Autumn wrote: Since the beginning of this case, there have been numerous connections to The Netherlands such as:

1. Gerry has worked in The Netherlands and has many relations there.He has no relations here. He did a fellowship on MRI cardiology in Amsterdam, he has ex colleagues from there. No relations.

2. The woman who claims to have seen Madeleine in Belgium is Dutch. Well, it's a small country, it's like going to Wales from Gloucestershire.

3. The woman who claimed to have seen Madeleine at a Petrol Station in Morocco lives or has lived in The Netherlands.

4. The girl who reported seeing Madeleine dancing in a French restaurant is Dutch.

5. Castle Craig has a branch in The Netherlands and Gerry worked in that country for a while - did he work there?See point one

6. The first diversion tactic was sent to a Dutch newspaper, a letter along with a map.If he'd just had publicity in Holland, then reactions from the public would be coming in, usual form is emails or letters to the press.

7. The owner of the animal crematorium was run by a Dutch criminal, Evert Hendrik, who had spent almost 8 years in prison for planting bombs in The Netherlands. This was exhaustively researched by the PJ and other police, I'm sure there will be a topic on it. No burnt offerings, I'm afraid.

8. PJ interviewed 2 Dutch newspaper reporters who claimed to have found a towel in the area identified as a possible burial location in a tip-off from a Dutch source. I don't know about this, but finding a towel anywhere near a beach can hardly be surprising? It can't have had any DNA worth mentioning on it, otherwise we'd have heard about it. And how should a towel lie there for god knows how long to pinpoint a burial site?

9. Gerry mentions on his blog he met up with friends on 7th June in The Netherlands, then a week later there a leaks to the Dutch press about where Madeleine's body is. See point 6. Hardly coincidence, more usual loonies reacting.


10. The Strongwood Investigation.

Strongwood investigates Madeleine McCann case
august 7, 2007

A special missing person team of Investigations Company Strongwood has been investigating the Madeleine McCann case as of the end of June. The team was hired by a group of more than 105.000 Dutch citizens to do this investigation at only the costs of research.
I would quite like to see their credentials, how many people have they managed to find to date? I've never heard of them and I live here.

The team has conducted an intensive preliminary analysis based on all the facts, scenarios, information, leads, broadcastings of interviews and images received by tested clairvoyance from the Netherlands and USA.
Tested clairvoyance?????

On the 31 of July the Team wend to Praia da Luz to investigate and conclude if al findings where possible. The team was formed of three detectives, a child expert in special children with a disorder, and a tested person with special abilities.


It became clear that the scenario of what might have happened became closer and closer to the leads this team was heading to. Because the media was watching the investigation team of the Portuguese police with two British investigators and well trained dogs, the Strongwood team could do their research without intervention.


While profiling involved people and researching our facts the team concluded that Madeleine could have been died before 19:00 we also found that Madeleine is a kid with a disability (autistic) which could explain her behavior and explain some witness declarations. The dogs of the British police marked the dead of the child in the apartment with traces of found blood. If death is marked than the child must have been death in that apartment for a couple of hours. Our team thinks she is moved from there with a white combi/transit vehicle to a beach location, while dumping the body into the sea. The person who has been seen walking with a child is a contradiction, but because one of the friends stated this witness declaration she would have recognize the child as Madeleine.
Could have been died before 19.00??? Does that mean murdered? It's English, but not as we know it, Jim.

This is just pure rubbish, in the first place, Kate complained that Maddie was 'clingy' wanted to be held all the time, this is not a feature of autism, quite the opposite.

We are convinced she has been given to the ocean and our (oceanic) calculations of May were slightly off course due to miscalculated temperatures and currencies onsite. These calculations have to be done again to indicate the course of a body in the ocean; we are also calculating a possible time of dissolution and take into account animals eating of the body. We have a few possible marked places we already checked and checked, but maybe we where to early as the indication now are end of August beginning of September.


We are convinced that the body has been dropped into the sea at the rocks on the left of the beach. The images who were received from our special person (in May, June, July and onsite) are in-line with the facts an also indicate what we expected.


What is happened is not sure, our calculations and facts indicated a possible time of dead or as much as a time she was already dead. If this had happened inside the apartment it indicates a possibility that resort employees, the McCann’s or their friends, or one of them knew this. Also the fact that the place could have been cleaned points in that direction.
What is this gobbledegook? ' a possible time of dead or as much as a time she was already dead?' It looks to me as if Strongwood are in urgent need of a decent translator?


Robert Murat has been seen on the evening/night of the 3rd the question is was he at home on the time he stated to the police. Our investigation leads in no way to this suspect other than that Murat could have done some things he didn’t want the police finding out before Madeleine even disappeared.
We had contacts with the Portuguese police and attended them on our investigation but as the new team with the British was formed, all communications channels where closed. We have tried to get our team in contact with the British investigators leading the portages team but we could not reach them at different times or where busy investigating.


Our team had to leave Portugal because we ran out of money which was gathered by the large group of people who hired us.


Back home we started to gather all information and findings of our investigation in Portugal and we are now investigation all this information and concentrating on the questions it gives. We are also watching the given statements on video by the McCann’s for psychological profiling. There are some indications that signals are not in the right context.

SOURCE: Strongwood

Sorry Upsy Daisy, The bandwagon of the McCanns was very tempting to a lot of people trying to make some money and get publicity at the same time. ` Now if it had been De Vries who is a real investigator it would be another story. This Strongwood story is pityful. The Dutch connection would have to be seen in comparison to many other nationalities who had input. You'd find it would be meaningless.



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Post by Gillyspot on Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:01 pm

If what I have been working on then it isn't Dutch but Irish connection (in the first instance anyway).

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Post by tigger on Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:02 pm

@Gillyspot wrote:If what I have been working on then it isn't Dutch but Irish connection (in the first instance anyway).

Will keep you informed.

Sorry, only now do I see that Upsy Daisy gave me a link and I answered IN the link rather than on the Sagres topic. Some posters now feel that Maddie's body had to be transported in various very unlikely ways. So I won't post on the Sagres 30th april anymore. I'll copy some of my posts to the topic of where to hide the body. This whole Dutch angle is no good. I think it is because many people think the Telegraaf is a respectable newspaper. It is a sensationalist tabloid.

But I don't understand the Irish link you're working on? Let me know?

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Post by Gillyspot on Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:26 pm

When I have it confirmed I will as it goes back to Donegal.

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Post by Jane phips on Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:36 pm

Did some research on a Jes Wilkins back in 2008 and came up with two, One reffered to a Jes Wilkins who was linked to football hooliganism. I seemed to link him with Amsterdam. A Jes Wilkins executive producer was linked to an Amsterdam Film Company who were linked to Porn movies, at the time I was pretty convinced it was the same guy.

Apparently in 2007 this producer Des Wilkins had been working on a movie called Virgin School made in Amsterdam, A film about a young Virgin Boy being schooled in the art of sex by an elderly female teacher of sex therapy, Comments on the movie said it was gross.

I followed up this research and came up with a private sex clinic in Amsterdam, they seemed to be linked too.

Could'nt help notice Jes Wilkin's wife (think its spelt Brigette) worked as a scene setter on Crimewatch TV and by remarkable concidence seem's Ralph Eveliegh's, Robert Murat's Uncle's Villa named Salsalito, was a favorite haunt for BBC Eastender Star.

There was a Seren of Paris on the guest list, at one time my research revealed that Seren could be spelled in different ways and I though it could be linked to Halligan's wife.
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Post by Jane phips on Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:03 pm

You have stated Mr Edmonds wife is Dutch a fascinating link maybe with Dannie Krugel who it is alleged has links in the Netherlands.

Didn't I also read here, the Dutch investigators were being fed imaging information, Hmm wonder who would have that technology?

Does'nt Mr Krugel have links to the Netherlands, you know the Mr Krugel who mapped out where Madeleine could be located by Google Earth imagery, you know the one who used to be a diamond hunter, isn't Diamonds connected to minerals, like in metals maybe?

Could the Philip Edmond who is Chair of Stemcor and who once Managed the Johannesburg office of Stemcor in South Africa be one of the same as Philip Edmonds nephew of Ralph Oppenhiimer, Mr Oppenhimer I gather was a Government Economist and in 2000 he took up the role of Executive Chaiman of Stemcor. I read on this site Mrs Hodge who also part owns Stemcor along with Ralph Oppenhiemer, was at one time a Government Minister Mrs Hodge I read backed the child data act.

Phillip Martin Edmonds, younger brother of Philip Edmonds by two years works for BBC Radio medium wave 648. he also works in RSA Soc which professes to bring 21st cent enlightenment. Hmm mm..mm

Stemcor special steel for nuclear submarines,Masonichip and as stated not to be confused with the microchip you take your DNA pack with you.

Remember the McCann's made a big public deal about gathering Madeleine's DNA, having to send all the way back to the UK to gather hair, eyelashes etc. Piffle!

Don't know if this is a link but there is a William Joseph McCann who works for Oppenhiemer & Co, Inco, Finacial Advisor, Broker-Dealer-Agent.

Work History- Firm Oppenhimer & Co,Inc -State MI -Start 1/1/99 End 8/6/07.

Sorry to have strayed off topic but its seemed all linked to The Dutch Connection & Edmonds.
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Post by jd on Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:58 am

@Jane phips wrote:Did some research on a Jes Wilkins back in 2008 and came up with two, One reffered to a Jes Wilkins who was linked to football hooliganism. I seemed to link him with Amsterdam. A Jes Wilkins executive producer was linked to an Amsterdam Film Company who were linked to Porn movies, at the time I was pretty convinced it was the same guy.

Apparently in 2007 this producer Des Wilkins had been working on a movie called Virgin School made in Amsterdam, A film about a young Virgin Boy being schooled in the art of sex by an elderly female teacher of sex therapy, Comments on the movie said it was gross.

I followed up this research and came up with a private sex clinic in Amsterdam, they seemed to be linked too.

Could'nt help notice Jes Wilkin's wife (think its spelt Brigette) worked as a scene setter on Crimewatch TV and by remarkable concidence seem's Ralph Eveliegh's, Robert Murat's Uncle's Villa named Salsalito, was a favorite haunt for BBC Eastender Star.

There was a Seren of Paris on the guest list, at one time my research revealed that Seren could be spelled in different ways and I though it could be linked to Halligan's wife.

Could you post up the proof of all this....links, articles you found etc

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@Jane phips wrote:You have stated Mr Edmonds wife is Dutch a fascinating link maybe with Dannie Krugel who it is alleged has links in the Netherlands.
Mr Edmonds is divorced. His ex wife is Dutch. There is nothing to suggest they have any links with Krugel.

Didn't I also read here, the Dutch investigators were being fed imaging information, Hmm wonder who would have that technology?
This should not be taken seriously, unless it can be backed up

Does'nt Mr Krugel have links to the Netherlands, you know the Mr Krugel who mapped out where Madeleine could be located by Google Earth imagery, you know the one who used to be a diamond hunter, isn't Diamonds connected to minerals, like in metals maybe?
The diamond and metal markets are two completely different things. There is no link between them.

Could the Philip Edmond who is Chair of Stemcor and who once Managed the Johannesburg office of Stemcor in South Africa be one of the same as Philip Edmonds nephew of Ralph Oppenhiimer, Mr Oppenhimer I gather was a Government Economist and in 2000 he took up the role of Executive Chaiman of Stemcor. I read on this site Mrs Hodge who also part owns Stemcor along with Ralph Oppenhiemer, was at one time a Government Minister Mrs Hodge I read backed the child data act.
Can you please provide us with more information concerning your claim re Ralph Oppenheimer. The information you have on Margaret Hodge is correct and is already on this forum.

Phillip Martin Edmonds, younger brother of Philip Edmonds by two years works for BBC Radio medium wave 648. he also works in RSA Soc which professes to bring 21st cent enlightenment. Hmm mm..mm
This is completely incorrect. It is Philip Edmonds brother, David James Edmonds who works for the BBC World Service.

Stemcor special steel for nuclear submarines,Masonichip and as stated not to be confused with the microchip you take your DNA pack with you.

Remember the McCann's made a big public deal about gathering Madeleine's DNA, having to send all the way back to the UK to gather hair, eyelashes etc. Piffle!

Don't know if this is a link but there is a William Joseph McCann who works for Oppenhiemer & Co, Inco, Finacial Advisor, Broker-Dealer-Agent.
Can you please tell us which office you are referring to here and proof if possible?

Work History- Firm Oppenhimer & Co,Inc -State MI -Start 1/1/99 End 8/6/07.
Are you sure you have the right organisation, as the correct spelling for the name is Oppenheimer?

Sorry to have strayed off topic but its seemed all linked to The Dutch Connection & Edmonds.
But there is nothing to back any of this up, other than Philip Edmonds ex wife is Dutch.
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