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Post by Verdi on 12.03.19 12:21

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Mark Saunokonoko has made a series of podcasts on the subject of Madeleine McCann's disappearance.

CMoMM has been used freely to heavily promote the podcasts, along with other social media outlets, so it can't be said that the forum is against Mark Saunokonoko in any way.  The content of the podcasts are open to scrutiny and constructive opinion and/or criticism, just the same as any other place that discusses the case of Madeleine McCann - for it is she who is at the centre of attention, or should be.

This is not a market place to sell your wares, it's a dedicated investigative forum intent on pursuing the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann - as reflected in the title.  If member don't like that, there are no shackles - you can move on any time you like.

Please put things into perspective.

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Post by Liz Eagles on 12.03.19 20:40

For me the key to these podcasts is to listen to them as if you had never read the files and only read UK media reporting.
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Post by Phoebe on 18.03.19 1:24

https://www.9news.com.au/maddie  #McCann #Maddie

latest podcast from Mark Saunokonoko out now.
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Post by Phoebe on 18.03.19 2:02

@Phoebe wrote:https://www.9news.com.au/maddie  #McCann #Maddie

latest podcast from Mark Saunokonoko out now.
Thank heaven for Mark S, and, in fairness, Colin Sutton plays a blinder. Eat your heart out Netflix - this is how you do an informative unbiased programme!!!!! Mr
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Post by Guest on 18.03.19 9:08

@Phoebe wrote:
@Phoebe wrote:https://www.9news.com.au/maddie  #McCann #Maddie

latest podcast from Mark Saunokonoko out now.
Thank heaven for Mark S, and, in fairness, Colin Sutton plays a blinder. Eat your heart out Netflix - this is how you do an informative unbiased programme!!!!! Mr
100% agree Phoebe, another excellent unbiased report from Mark. For all the criticism Colin Sutton has had he adds real value to this particular podcast. Much as it must have taken Pulse a while to generate the propaganda for Netflix I'm convinced it's realease is timed to counteract these podcasts (which are top of the podcast charts in UK and Australia).
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Post by Jill Havern on 18.03.19 9:14

I couldn't get Phoebe's link to work, so here it is again

https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/eddie-and-keela?in_playlist=maddie!podcast

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Two British sniffer dogs arrive in Portugal to hunt for Madeleine. The dogs alert in a number of locations.
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Post by Verdi on 18.03.19 11:23

@Phoebe wrote:
@Phoebe wrote:https://www.9news.com.au/maddie  #McCann #Maddie

latest podcast from Mark Saunokonoko out now.
Thank heaven for Mark S, and, in fairness, Colin Sutton plays a blinder. Eat your heart out Netflix - this is how you do an informative unbiased programme!!!!! Mr

What - investigative journalism ?

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Post by Verdi on 18.03.19 11:35

(which are top of the podcast charts in UK and Australia).

Ooooo .... 'Top Of The Pods'.

No surprises there, they've been plugged enough across social media.

Trouble is with Colin Sutton, he vacillates to such an extent nobody knows what's true and what isn't. That aside, he's never been officially assigned to work on the case so he's opinion is of little value as regards a public information bulletin - he makes too many throw away comments for my liking.

The very fact that he's always available for comment speaks volumes.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 18.03.19 11:53

@Phoebe wrote:
@Phoebe wrote:https://www.9news.com.au/maddie  #McCann #Maddie

latest podcast from Mark Saunokonoko out now.
Thank heaven for Mark S, and, in fairness, Colin Sutton plays a blinder. Eat your heart out Netflix - this is how you do an informative unbiased programme!!!!!
Informative?

Unbiased?

How much time did Mark Saunokonoko give to...

...all the contradictions in the Smiths' evidence...

...Martin Smith's relationship to Robert Murat...

...the uncanny resemblance of the description of Smithman to Tannerman and Sagresman (Wojcek Krokowski)...

...the way the Smiths have backed the McCanns...

...talking to Brian Kennedy...

...talking to Henri Exton...

...putting his name to two efits of different-looking men...

...supporting the Channel 4/Mentorn Media Mockumentary...

...agreeing to the McCanns using his sighting on their website...

...agreeing to the McCanns using his sighting in Kate's book...

...changing the age of the man he said he saw to 34/35 for the McCanns' website...

...the fact that none of the other 9 people claiming to have seen a man agreed that it was Gerry McCann...

...Martin Smith's help with the BBC Crimewatch show...?

A simple answer in approximate number of minutes would be helpful.

What is most relevant about Mark Saunokonoko on Smithman is the amount of information he withheld.

Unlike Richard Hall who dealt with all of these issues

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Post by Guest on 18.03.19 11:54

@Verdi wrote:
(which are top of the podcast charts in UK and Australia).

Ooooo .... 'Top Of The Pods'.

No surprises there, they've been plugged enough across social media.

Trouble is with Colin Sutton, he vacillates to such an extent nobody knows what's true and what isn't.  That aside, he's never been officially assigned to work on the case so he's opinion is of little value as regards a public information bulletin - he makes too many throw away comments for my liking.

The very fact that he's always available for comment speaks volumes.
I could use the same argument for PeterMac (not that  I would) he was  never been assigned to the case either, so his opinion should be of little value either? Colin Sutton so far in these podcasts has been pretty good, no reason so far to doubt/mock his input (which Mark will have edited)
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Post by Verdi on 18.03.19 12:00

PeterMac is not sitting on studio sofas or appearing in documentaries or posing for photoshoots or giving media interviews.

I was rather hoping my wording would allay such an anticipated response. Appears I was wrong.

That aside, I'd rather not discuss a forum member behind their back.


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Post by Verdi on 18.03.19 12:03

I wonder if anyone's tried to contact former DCI Andy Redwood to enrich their podcast/documentary content.

Now that's something I would like to hear interview !

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Post by Phoebe on 18.03.19 12:16

@ Tony Bennett.

Mark Saunokonoko  did not feature "contradictions" in The Smith EVIDENCE because he accepts, as do the P.J. and Dr. Amaral that they are remarkably consistent (lets not start trotting out Media rubbish making "Smith claims" as has been done before)

There is no relationship between Smith and Murat other than by sight as Smith stated and the police accept as fact.

The description of the man seen by the Smiths is vastly different from the description of either Tannerman or Sagreman,  - different hair colour, hair length, skin tone and clothing.

 Martin Smith has entered into official evidence the fact his wife, Mary, also believes it was Gerry they saw that night.

There is no evidence the Smiths ever cooperated with the McCanns, other than agreeing to draw up e-fits when asked.
The Smiths have no editorial control over the BBC, nor Kate's book and what is presented there,just as in the same way, Dr. Amaral cannot control the way in which Netflix chose to present him or the way the press continually lies about him suing the McCanns.

All the evidence points to the fact that the Smiths are not working for the McCanns. Pro McCann forces have never been able to produce a single interview or statement from Martin Smith showing that he has changed his view re. that sighting.
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Post by HiDeHo on 24.03.19 4:29

IN MONDAYS PODCAST! #5 Could CAR evidence now be solved? EXCLUSIVE: Maddie's DNA could be present in crucial samples as world expert rips up 'failed' UK forensic tests By Mark Saunokonoko  Mar 24, 2019 

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/23/20/27/madeleine-mccann-dna-car-evidence-could-now-be-solved-maddie-podcast



EXCLUSIVE: Maddie's DNA could be present in crucial samples as world expert rips up 'failed' UK forensic tests

By Mark Saunokonoko
12:52pm Mar 24, 2019



One of the world's leading DNA scientists – whose lab helped identify victims of the 9/11 terror attack - has told Nine.com.au he believes he can answer a major forensic question that baffled investigators and could finally help solve what happened to missing girl Madeleine McCann, more than 11 years after she mysteriously vanished.

Speaking in tomorrow's fifth episode of Maddie, an American DNA expert reveals potentially case-changing insights into the DNA samples that were taken from the McCann's holiday apartment and rental car in 2007. Those samples were later judged to be inconclusive.

The chief scientist at a US-based, world renowned lab has reviewed the now out-dated testing methods used by the UK's Forensic Science Service (FSS) in 2007 to analyse the McCann samples. He has also examined a crucial final DNA report that was sent to the Portuguese police.

Portuguese police sent DNA samples to the FSS for testing after two specialist sniffer dogs trained to detect the scent of death and human blood alerted in the McCann's holiday apartment and a rental car hired three weeks after Maddie vanished. The FSS analysed the samples but struggled to untangle and decipher the potentially explosive evidence.

"[The FSS testing] failed in this case 10 years ago," the DNA scientist said.

"If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice - of guilty people not being convicted, or innocent people staying in prison. What is needed is an objective and accurate interpretation that can scientifically resolve the DNA."
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The inconclusive DNA results from the FSS appeared to cast serious doubt over the earlier work of the cadaver dogs that had searched the potential crime scenes.

The US forensic lab has forged a global reputation through solving previously indecipherable DNA samples. It has played a pivotal role in a number of high-profile US criminal trials involving wrongful convictions based on dodgy DNA evidence and controversial prosecutions

In 2007, the now-closed British lab, the FSS, was forced to undertake a massive review of up to 2000 cases of violent crime, including rape and murder. There were concerns that the DNA tests relating to these criminal cases had failed to detect minute traces of DNA that could potentially have identified guilty parties.

The American DNA scientist will feature in Monday's episode five of Maddie, Nine.com.au's podcast investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Maddiequickly reached number one in the UK, Australia and New Zealand iTunes charts.
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Since 2007, the McCanns have strenuously denied any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter. Nine.com.au does not suggest any involvement on their part.

SPOILER ALERTS: Recap of first four Maddie episodes

Episode one: 'They've Taken Her'
Madeleine mysteriously goes missing while on a family holiday in Portugal. Kate and Gerry and their friends, the Tapas 7, conduct a complex and at times confusing checking schedule on their children. The group claim they were leaving their kids alone each night while they ate dinner at a nearby tapas bar.
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Episode two: Red Flags
The police investigation begins but detectives appear to have doubts about the McCann apartment which shows no forensic sign of being broken into. A former UK police chief struggles to understand how someone can climb in and out of Maddie's open bedroom window. Jane Tanner, a Tapas 7 friend, reports seeing a man carrying a girl away from the McCann apartment, but police have concerns about the reliability of her evidence. Changes in two of Gerry McCann's police statements are analysed.


Episode three: Man with No Face
A criminal profiler underlines the importance of a second sighting on the night Maddie was reported missing, as the potential abductor seen by Jane Tanner is ruled out by police. Two e-fits of a man suddenly emerge into the public domain in 2013, but it turns out private detectives hired by the McCanns had obtained those potentially significant e-fits five years earlier. A first suspect is named by Portuguese police, quickly resulting in three of the McCann's friends in unison going to police claiming they had seen him on the night of May 3, an allegation which is hotly disputed by the man. How long did Gerry McCann leave the table at the tapas restaurant on the night of May 3?
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Episode four: Eddie and Keela
A significant deployment of British diplomats are sent to Praia da Luz inside of 24 hours of Madeleine's disappearance. A former homicide detective wonders why the arrival of so many diplomats was necessary, amid accusations of British interference in the Portuguese police investigation. Two highly regarded specialist dogs are brought to Portugal and make a number of alerts inside the McCann's holiday apartment, 5A, and a rental car they had hired weeks after Madeleine went missing. The McCanns are declared arguidos, and DNA samples are sent to the UK.
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LISTEN TO LATEST EPISODES OF MADDIE NOW 
Maps, graphics, stories and all episodes of Maddie here: nine.com.au/maddie
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Post by JimbobJones on 24.03.19 7:52

If only they had sent the DNA evidence to an independent lab/country for analysis. And anyone who thinks the UK lab was free from "interference" knows next to nothing about the way these things are controlled.
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Post by Mainline on 24.03.19 23:53

Hope PCR is mentioned. It's verified in the files and by its existence it means that samples should still exist, even if only digitally.
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Post by HiDeHo on 25.03.19 3:11

The DNA - PODCAST #5 - One of the world's leading DNA scientists says he can now answer a critical forensic evidence question which baffled investigators in 2007.
 Mar 24, 2019 11:04 PM  Mark Saunokonoko

https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/the-dna

INCREDIBLE! DNA can be identified from original data files  using modern technology! 



One of the only two labs that can do this  have offered to test AT NO CHARGE!! 


 OG have not yet responded! 


Thanks to Mark Saunokonoko for the huge effort and info! 
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Post by Jill Havern on 25.03.19 5:05

Great podcast!

Has Mark contacted the PJ with his info?
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Post by HiDeHo on 25.03.19 5:11

@Jill Havern wrote:Great podcast!

Has Mark contacted the PJ with his info?

Can't be sure but to think that the DNA evidence can now be identified at no charge and within two weeks...AMAZING!

It's something EVERYONE wants, regardless of whether one believes the McCanns are complicit or not!

I trusted Mark from the start, but I had no idea how much he is achieving.
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Post by Jill Havern on 25.03.19 5:28

I've sent the info to Operation Grange by email.
And to Natasha Donn.

It makes you wonder what Grange are doing for their money - it's pretty shocking that they haven't returned Mark's phone call.
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Post by HiDeHo on 25.03.19 5:51

@Jill Havern wrote:I've sent the info to Operation Grange by email.
And to Natasha Donn.

It makes you wonder what Grange are doing for their money - it's pretty shocking that they haven't returned Mark's phone call.


Thanks Jill, Im sure Natasha will be as pleased as we are with the new info!

I imagine there is a lot of panic right now....

This is investigative journalism at its best!

This is NOT going to go away.

We can make sure of that :)
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Post by Guest on 25.03.19 8:00

Another superb podcast by Mark Saunokonoko, it might even be groundbreaking. His approach to the case has been an example to others, stick with the files/things that can be proven, question them using logic, bring in the experts. It's now clear to me (and I suggested it previously) that the release of the Netflix documentaries was timed to bury these podcasts (it's no coincidence that the dogs & DNA got 'the treatment'). Well done Mark I look forward to the next episode.
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Post by Guest on 25.03.19 9:28

Another well balanced informative podcast by Mark Saunokonoko, why would the parents or investigators not want to  take advantage of this incredible advance in DNA testing, FOC not.
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Post by Liz Eagles on 25.03.19 9:36

Who owns the DNA samples?
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Post by Guest on 25.03.19 9:55

aquila wrote:Who owns the DNA samples?
According to the podcast it's the digital records that are left (the samples, as we we'll know, we're destroyed by FSS). The digital records can be analysed statistically by computer to work out the probability of it being Maddie' s DNA, it doesn't matter if there's a mix of people it can separate them out (as my understanding). Mark wasn't able to get to the bottom of who is holding the digital records he was basically given the runaround.
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