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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 18:15

aiyoyo wrote:And, so what has their webmaster whoever that be got anything to do with this case?

So this is a game to you?  To victimise innocent?

Do you have proof he's the webmaster?  Even if he is, what was his crime?
Whoa....This Callum chap has been involved from day one stuffing bracelets in envelopes from his shed. He is now moving up the ladder into biometrics. I think its important.
Someone is aiding his rise.

Calum, who has designed websites "since he was 10" is paid out of the global donations to the fund, which won't be contributing to the McCanns' legal costs.
 
He refused to be drawn on how much his team of six are paid, and the Sunday Herald's repeated calls to the fund's spokeswoman, Esther McVey, were not returned. He added: "I can't tell you that, it's not much honestly. We are just covering our costs. You would need to speak to the fund about that."
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Post by aiyoyo 08.12.13 19:26

ChillyHeat wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:And, so what has their webmaster whoever that be got anything to do with this case?

So this is a game to you?  To victimise innocent?

Do you have proof he's the webmaster?  Even if he is, what was his crime?
Whoa....This Callum chap has been involved from day one stuffing bracelets in envelopes from his shed. He is now moving up the ladder into biometrics. I think its important.
Someone is aiding his rise.

Calum, who has designed websites "since he was 10" is paid out of the global donations to the fund, which won't be contributing to the McCanns' legal costs.
 
He refused to be drawn on how much his team of six are paid, and the Sunday Herald's repeated calls to the fund's spokeswoman, Esther McVey, were not returned. He added: "I can't tell you that, it's not much honestly. We are just covering our costs. You would need to speak to the fund about that."
I am bowing out as you obviously don't see the point that what he does for a job has nothing to do with the case, or any place on this forum, as what that does is turning this forum into a joke.
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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 19:30

aiyoyo wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:And, so what has their webmaster whoever that be got anything to do with this case?

So this is a game to you?  To victimise innocent?

Do you have proof he's the webmaster?  Even if he is, what was his crime?
Whoa....This Callum chap has been involved from day one stuffing bracelets in envelopes from his shed. He is now moving up the ladder into biometrics. I think its important.
Someone is aiding his rise.

Calum, who has designed websites "since he was 10" is paid out of the global donations to the fund, which won't be contributing to the McCanns' legal costs.
 
He refused to be drawn on how much his team of six are paid, and the Sunday Herald's repeated calls to the fund's spokeswoman, Esther McVey, were not returned. He added: "I can't tell you that, it's not much honestly. We are just covering our costs. You would need to speak to the fund about that."
I am bowing out as you obviously don't see the point that what he does for a job has nothing to do with the case, or any place on this forum, as what that does is turning this forum into a joke.
Your right.....He is totally innocent. I wont offer no more. 
I give up.




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Post by Guest 08.12.13 19:35

I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 19:37

aiyoyo wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:It is interesting that the various articles do not reveal that Infohost was actually started and is owned by a serving Police Officer, Cameron McRae. It is a busy company with diverse business interests.

The impression one is given from the articles is that Auntie Phil ‘phoned one of her ex-pupils, the local IT whiz-kid, who single-handedly got website up and running. Certainly makes for a nice 'feel good' newspaper story.

I feel that the selection of the Macraes company to host and administer the Find Madeleine Website would not have been as the result of Phil recalling that one of her former pupils was a bit of a whiz when it came to IT.

Calum would indeed have attended the local high school where Phil is a teacher. It is likely that he was indeed a former pupil of Auntie Phil but I do not believe that this played any part in the reason for Infohost being asked to run the website / take care of the merchandise.

I believe that Phil McCann is far more likely to have approached Cameron MacRae to host and administer the website because he was known to her, being a Police Officer in a tightly knit Community. Infohost would need to be trusted by Team McCann and very much ‘on-side’.

It is of great concern that Leicestershire Police still provide a link to the Find Madeleine Website but it is also of great concern that the Find Madeleine website, with its PayPal donation buttons and details of the latest campaigns, was set up by a serving Scottish Police Officer!

And, assuming MacRae has not resigned, continues to this day to be run by a serving Scottish Police Officer!


I would like to amend the above to say that:

It is of great concern that Leicestershire Police still provide a link to the Find Madeleine Website but it is also of great concern that the Find Madeleine website, with its PayPal donation buttons and details of the latest campaigns, was set up by a company owned by a serving Scottish Police Officer!

And, assuming MacRae has not resigned, continues to this day to be run by a company owned by a serving Scottish Police Officer!
You beat me to it.  
I was just going to say  the 'serving scottish police officer' bit is interesting for two reasons :
'serving' and 'scottish',
                  with the scottish connection he's probably known to GM priorly.  
This would make the link to LP interesting because it could be the association to this scottish chappie, site provider, currently still serving police officer that the link came about.    It's a case of who you know, as in connection.  




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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 19:40

Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
Ty....I agree. It seems so many threads are dumped off just because someone does not agree. This Calum chap has his hands in many pies, and they all began from the day he was posting bracelets back in the day. He is an involvement. He does need looking at. For all we know he has abandoned the FM website for his own biometric adventures...Who knows
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Post by Mirage 08.12.13 19:44

ChillyHeat wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:It is interesting that the various articles do not reveal that Infohost was actually started and is owned by a serving Police Officer, Cameron McRae. It is a busy company with diverse business interests.

The impression one is given from the articles is that Auntie Phil ‘phoned one of her ex-pupils, the local IT whiz-kid, who single-handedly got website up and running. Certainly makes for a nice 'feel good' newspaper story.

I feel that the selection of the Macraes company to host and administer the Find Madeleine Website would not have been as the result of Phil recalling that one of her former pupils was a bit of a whiz when it came to IT.

Calum would indeed have attended the local high school where Phil is a teacher. It is likely that he was indeed a former pupil of Auntie Phil but I do not believe that this played any part in the reason for Infohost being asked to run the website / take care of the merchandise.

I believe that Phil McCann is far more likely to have approached Cameron MacRae to host and administer the website because he was known to her, being a Police Officer in a tightly knit Community. Infohost would need to be trusted by Team McCann and very much ‘on-side’.

It is of great concern that Leicestershire Police still provide a link to the Find Madeleine Website but it is also of great concern that the Find Madeleine website, with its PayPal donation buttons and details of the latest campaigns, was set up by a serving Scottish Police Officer!

And, assuming MacRae has not resigned, continues to this day to be run by a serving Scottish Police Officer!


I would like to amend the above to say that:

It is of great concern that Leicestershire Police still provide a link to the Find Madeleine Website but it is also of great concern that the Find Madeleine website, with its PayPal donation buttons and details of the latest campaigns, was set up by a company owned by a serving Scottish Police Officer!

And, assuming MacRae has not resigned, continues to this day to be run by a company owned by a serving Scottish Police Officer!
You beat me to it.  
I was just going to say  the 'serving scottish police officer' bit is interesting for two reasons :
'serving' and 'scottish',
                  with the scottish connection he's probably known to GM priorly.  
This would make the link to LP interesting because it could be the association to this scottish chappie, site provider, currently still serving police officer that the link came about.    It's a case of who you know, as in connection.  




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Quite ChillyHeat, I noticed this and did a double take. Something not adding up here.
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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 19:54

I honestly believe that if we can crack the cracks with the fund, then more answers will be revealed.

Someone has got too big from the start, and its pissing people off (fund related)....IMO.
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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 20:25

Triangulation Crossfire....:

Leicester : Hotel Arrangements
Exeter : Nail Biting
Ullapool : Reaping Rewards

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Post by aiyoyo 08.12.13 20:29

Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
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Post by Daisy 08.12.13 20:41

aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
I agree here. Connections don't necessarily mean involvement. If we connect everybody it gets a bit silly. Lots of people have obviously been used along the way.

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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 20:44

aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
Are you saying the fund is all tip top and above board ?
Im saying Calum was funded for his now biometric enterprises....IMO
Amber Alerts
Biometrics
Microchipping

It has been the agenda from day one. And is silently still going on, but this (possibly) young chap has allowed it all to go to his head and he is promoting it for his own benefit....And its pissing people off big grin 

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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 20:48

Daisy wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
I agree here. Connections don't necessarily mean involvement. If we connect everybody it gets a bit silly. Lots of people have obviously been used along the way.
Your a person I do take notice of and respect....So I will stop my searching now on this person airkiss
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Post by Newintown 08.12.13 20:54

ChillyHeat wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
Are you saying the fund is all tip top and above board ?
Im saying Calum was funded for his now biometric enterprises....IMO
Amber Alerts
Biometrics
Microchipping

It has been the agenda from day one. And is silently still going on, but this (possibly) young chap has allowed it all to go to his head and he is promoting it for his own benefit....And its pissing people off big grin 

All IMO (Im usually wrong though titter )
Sinister happenings (obtaining finger prints through the back door):

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miPass:

It's finally here Over the past 6 months, the team here are delighted to announce the arrival of miPass! Working around the clock to provide a great interface for companies as well as a easy to use API for all you developers out there.

What is miPass? It is a fingerprint authentication system.

miPass main aim is to provide a easy to use service that protects and benefits the user, everywhere. We imagine that you will not ever need to bring ID documents to a Pub, Tickets to an event, never need that membership card again, etc. The possibles are endless.

Developers are going to be really excited as they can add references to a user's account and recall it after they have scanned. For example, the user has purchased a ticket with the reference 1234. The developer can call the user's reference after they scan their finger and confirm the ticket reference.

Just to be clear. The information we keep is kept to a minimal. Another example, If you buy a ticket, we only know the reference number to that ticket. We do not store the ticket's info such as location, price, time etc. This increases security and privacy.

We hope to see you on miPass soon!

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Is that where the £35,000 "TM website management" money has gone.  Otherwise how can Calum MacRae pay for a "team" working around the clock.

I thought he was only a school boy when he set up the McCanns' website, a pupil of Auntie Phil if I recall.  He seems to have come a long way in the past 6 years.

Also is it legal for any company to obtain and save people's fingerprints or does being the son of a police officer make it OK?

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Post by Daisy 08.12.13 21:05

ChillyHeat wrote:
Daisy wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
I agree here. Connections don't necessarily mean involvement. If we connect everybody it gets a bit silly. Lots of people have obviously been used along the way.
Your a person I do take notice of and respect....So I will stop my searching now on this person airkiss
Please don't I will only let you down. big grin   No need to stop searching though, if you believe you're onto something go for it.

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Post by Newintown 08.12.13 21:09

Daisy wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
I agree here. Connections don't necessarily mean involvement. If we connect everybody it gets a bit silly. Lots of people have obviously been used along the way.
It's more realistic to say that Madeleine has been used along the way by all and sundry, the poor girl has been used like a savings account/pension fund for many people.

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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 21:11

Daisy wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:
Daisy wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
I agree here. Connections don't necessarily mean involvement. If we connect everybody it gets a bit silly. Lots of people have obviously been used along the way.
Your a person I do take notice of and respect....So I will stop my searching now on this person airkiss
Please don't I will only let you down. big grin   No need to stop searching though, if you believe you're onto something go for it.
Daisy....This is ChillyHeat we are talking about here big grin  My head goes into overdrive at times.
I did post something weeks ago suggesting that this lad was more involved than meets the eye...But I think enough has been posted if others want to take a peek from here on.
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Post by Daisy 08.12.13 21:12

Most definitely. ^^ Meant for Newintown's post. Edit: And you too ChilliHeat  winkwink

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Post by chillyheat 08.12.13 21:14

Daisy wrote:Most definitely. ^^
My research skills would only have us ending up with Tony Blair or Dave Cameron having an affair with Philomena McCann at some stage titter 

I see the link....But Im always a few chains short big grin
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Post by Daisy 08.12.13 21:17

ChillyHeat wrote:
Daisy wrote:Most definitely. ^^
My research skills would only have us ending up with Tony Blair or Dave Cameron having an affair with Philomena McCann at some stage titter 

I see the link....But Im always a few chains short big grin
Not to mention Frankie Boyle! The connections there are very close (& many).

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Post by aiyoyo 08.12.13 21:22

ChillyHeat wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
Are you saying the fund is all tip top and above board ?
Im saying Calum was funded for his now biometric enterprises....IMO
Amber Alerts
Biometrics
Microchipping

It has been the agenda from day one. And is silently still going on, but this (possibly) young chap has allowed it all to go to his head and he is promoting it for his own benefit....And its pissing people off big grin 

All IMO (Im usually wrong though titter )
Well, allegations like that is not useful to this forum, and dangerous. But hey.....suit yourself...

I am bowing out of discussion on this thread.
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Post by T4two 08.12.13 21:36

Newintown wrote:
Daisy wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
I agree here. Connections don't necessarily mean involvement. If we connect everybody it gets a bit silly. Lots of people have obviously been used along the way.
It's more realistic to say that Madeleine has been used along the way by all and sundry, the poor girl has been used like a savings account/pension fund for many people.
Well said both of you - sad but true.
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Post by Newintown 08.12.13 23:01

Newintown wrote:
ChillyHeat wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I beg to disagree. The guy was making the original FindMadeleine.site. The first, more or less, genuine annual accounts listed EUR 37,000 [or around that figure]. He IS a player in this game ... And he's a pupil of Aunty Phil .. IMO enough to take a close look.
What proof is there the sum listed in the accounts went to him ?
He probably was recommended by someone associated to the Mccanns b/c of his talent in that field.

Just because he was hired by Mccanns is not enough to insinuate he is a player if that is what this thread is about.
Otherwise where should the line be drawn?  
What has their misleading site got anything to with the web construction/maintenance guy ?
Else by the same principle, just because their accounts is suspicious -- is it OK to insinuate that their Auditor is a player in the game as well?
Sorry, if I don't get it, and I don't get it.
Are you saying the fund is all tip top and above board ?
Im saying Calum was funded for his now biometric enterprises....IMO
Amber Alerts
Biometrics
Microchipping

It has been the agenda from day one. And is silently still going on, but this (possibly) young chap has allowed it all to go to his head and he is promoting it for his own benefit....And its pissing people off big grin 

All IMO (Im usually wrong though titter )
Sinister happenings (obtaining finger prints through the back door):

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miPass:

It's finally here Over the past 6 months, the team here are delighted to announce the arrival of miPass! Working around the clock to provide a great interface for companies as well as a easy to use API for all you developers out there.

What is miPass? It is a fingerprint authentication system.

miPass main aim is to provide a easy to use service that protects and benefits the user, everywhere. We imagine that you will not ever need to bring ID documents to a Pub, Tickets to an event, never need that membership card again, etc. The possibles are endless.

Developers are going to be really excited as they can add references to a user's account and recall it after they have scanned. For example, the user has purchased a ticket with the reference 1234. The developer can call the user's reference after they scan their finger and confirm the ticket reference.

Just to be clear. The information we keep is kept to a minimal. Another example, If you buy a ticket, we only know the reference number to that ticket. We do not store the ticket's info such as location, price, time etc. This increases security and privacy.

We hope to see you on miPass soon!

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Is that where the £35,000 "TM website management" money has gone.  Otherwise how can Calum MacRae pay for a "team" working around the clock.

I thought he was only a school boy when he set up the McCanns' website, a pupil of Auntie Phil if I recall.  He seems to have come a long way in the past 6 years.

Also is it legal for any company to obtain and save people's fingerprints or does being the son of a police officer make it OK?
I forgot to add the link to the website from where I copied the information (duh) -

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Another link which is a bit creepy advising parents that children can have their finger prints as identification if they are not old enough to have any ID:

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It sounds to me like getting around having human microchipping which people would not endorse by taking everyone's finger prints instead, although nothing seems to have happened much with these websites so perhaps it was all pie in the sky for Calum MacRae and his big ideas have been reigned in.

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Post by Guest 08.12.13 23:20

I had my Dutch passport renewed here in France at the nearest Consulate and had to give "electronical" fingerprints of all 10 ... Next time I have to go to the Embassy in Paris-  a one way 500 km  travel - to have them checked again to get a renewal.

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Post by Newintown 08.12.13 23:28

Châtelaine wrote:I had my Dutch passport renewed here in France at the nearest Consulate and had to give "electronical" fingerprints of all 10 ... Next time I have to go to the Embassy in Paris-  a one way 500 km  travel - to have them checked again to get a renewal.

:please:
Flamin' Nora (excuse language), that's very scary, I'm gobsmacked hearing that. My Passport (UK) runs out in February, if I have to have my fingerprints taken to renew it I don't think I'll bother. I'd rather stay in the UK than have my fingerprints floating around the World not knowing who has a copy of them. big grin 

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Post by tigger 09.12.13 7:14

Newintown wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I had my Dutch passport renewed here in France at the nearest Consulate and had to give "electronical" fingerprints of all 10 ... Next time I have to go to the Embassy in Paris-  a one way 500 km  travel - to have them checked again to get a renewal.

:please:
Flamin' Nora (excuse language), that's very scary, I'm gobsmacked hearing that.  My Passport (UK) runs out in February, if I have to have my fingerprints taken to renew it I don't think I'll bother.  I'd rather stay in the UK than have my fingerprints floating around the World not knowing who has a copy of them.  big grin 
Same  - I'm even more annoyed because I should at all times carry a valid ID. Either a passport or ID card, that one pays for a passport, OK. But the ID is another 45 euro. I carry a photocopy of my passport and a British driving licence, I can still be fined.

@ Chatelaine : that's your chance of a criminal career gone then - come to think of it, so's mine....

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Post by bobbin 09.12.13 13:54

tigger wrote:
Newintown wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:I had my Dutch passport renewed here in France at the nearest Consulate and had to give "electronical" fingerprints of all 10 ... Next time I have to go to the Embassy in Paris-  a one way 500 km  travel - to have them checked again to get a renewal.

:please:
Flamin' Nora (excuse language), that's very scary, I'm gobsmacked hearing that.  My Passport (UK) runs out in February, if I have to have my fingerprints taken to renew it I don't think I'll bother.  I'd rather stay in the UK than have my fingerprints floating around the World not knowing who has a copy of them.  big grin 
Same  - I'm even more annoyed because I should at all times carry a valid ID. Either a passport or ID card, that one pays for a passport, OK. But the ID is another 45 euro. I carry a photocopy of my passport and a British driving licence, I can still be fined.

@ Chatelaine : that's your chance of a criminal career gone then - come to think of it, so's mine....
My mind immediately goes into, yes, but what are the possible abuses of this new system?
1. A noted criminal, assisted by a corrupt policeman/ person in authority, could furnish his 'finger-prints' to be co-opted for any purpose whatsoever.
2. Anyone with a known but unsavoury secret could be held to 'ransom' / 'blackmail', for personal gain by such a corrupt policeman/ person in authority / blackmailer.
3. Kidnapped people, or waylaid drunks after a night out could be forced to go to ATM's etc. to have their finger forced onto any keypad, the purchase of tickets, etc.
4. Fingers could be removed, preserved, kept for later use.
5. Silicone or other appropriate skin/mimicking materials could be used to make a false finger with instantly transferable purchasing power.
6. 'Finger masks', a finer version of 'Face masks' could become a completely profitable 'new market' whereby known criminals can register under many different 'finger mask' aliases.
7. People might start developing surgical Finger print tatooing or, the reverse, removal of unique finger print markers.
Just to name a few.... The possibilities are endless....  spin 
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Post by Guest 09.12.13 15:46

There, of course, a lot of criminal [mis-]use thinkable. And it doesn't add any more security to proof identity. It's just costly and time-consuming every FIVE years ...
What bothers me most, though, is that my own native government treats its citizens like criminals  sad 
Even my dear 95-year-old Maman had to go to a Dutch townhall and present herself in person to get her passport renewed. I've had foreign assistants, though, from all 4 winds working for me here in France and/or the Netherlands. All they had to do was put the old one in an envelop with a check and they would get a new one back via regular mail ...

And I will soon need to take a TAXI to go to Paris, as I cannot renew my driver's license [to be done every TEN years] anymore. If I would have emigrated to say Australia, I could have put it in an envelop with a check, etc. But I stayed with the EU and now I have to try [emphasis on "try"] and get a French one  whacky 

OT, sorry. Rant over.
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