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Post by kangdang on 09.09.10 14:40


After some of the worst Investigations and botched enquiries ever seen, this little girl still remains undetected. The Portuguese Police should hang their head in shame, especially one retired Detective who wanted to announce in a book that she was dead. We, like the rest of the public find it absolutely unforgivable that someone would seek to make a fortune off the back of a book, with no regard to the McCann family who live with this horror everyday.

A.I.C Legal Services Ltd are calling on ALL Private Investigators all over the world to use all the resources open to them and all their contacts to raise the profile of this case again. We are calling on all Investigators to work together voluntarily to try and make a difference in finding this young girl and bring her home to her family.

If all the Private Investigators across Europe and the world were to join forces along side the Police and other agencies, then we are certain we can make a difference. We will put our Ideas to the ABI and WAPI with a suggestion that this course of action be co-ordinated by them.

Over the next few days we will search our archives for all our contacts, we have many retired Police Officers, Firefighters, British Army, Close Protection Officers etc who are situated all over the World and send them an e-mail with our suggestions. Hopefully this will be a chain e-mail that never gets broken.

May God protect her wherever she is.

and today's entry -

Witinin one hour of Posting our first news story regarding Madeleine McCann we had received 2 replies and we have had many other enquiries offering to help. We were also asked the question “What about the thousands of other children missing?”

This is a very valid question and our answer is this ” Madeleine McCann has had the highest media interest of any missing child we have ever known. By that very virtue if ALL Private Investigators join together across the Globe and we can actually find this little girl or make a significant difference in finding her then lets start looking at other cases. It is a cruel fact but a true one, that we can not help everyone. A.I.C Legal Services Ltd Directors and staff raise money for a different charity every year and again we can not raise money for every charity that is out there but if we can help one or two this is better than doing nothing”

A.I.C Legal Services Ltd Director contacted ‘The find Madeleine McCann’ official website with full details of our plan and Idea to merge all Private Investigators in a new bid to find Madeleine. He also offered his own personal services to co-ordinate this FREE of charge.

If you are interested and feel you can help us or you have another idea please contact me personally on 07775670794 – Alan

Bloody freeloaders, Only Madeleine?? Free publicity, generating plenty of £££££'s.

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Post by Guest on 09.09.10 14:48

After some of the worst Investigations and botched enquiries ever seen, this little girl still remains undetected. The Portuguese Police should hang their head in shame, especially one retired Detective who wanted to announce in a book that she was dead

OMG I am so angry, can't say more going off somewhere to explode angry angry angry
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Post by Judge Mental on 09.09.10 15:01

Were one to employ a private detective, one would expect them to read the police files. Upon doing so, any sensible detective who does not have a vested interest in whatever the Tapas 9 are interested in, would arrive at the same conclusion as the British and Portuguese police and the CSI dogs. ie. That a human being had lain dead leaving cadaver odours around apartment 5A and the hired car, not to mention Kate's clothing, a soft toy and a key fob. Nobody else has been reported missing from PDL. The detectives, private or otherwise are not going to be looking for a live Madeleine. If there is a live Madeleine 'out there' (to quote the parents), they should use their combined resources to find out who else may have lain dead in 5A.

The Gaspars statements would be an excellent place for the detectives to start their investigations, if only to rule certain elements out.

Any interested detectives should use their initiative in finding out as to why the Smiths are not being highlighted by Mitchell's machine, as there was a point where Amaral was finding their evidence crucial, Alas Amaral was removed from the case.
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Post by baconbutty on 09.09.10 15:09

That first paragraph in their first post could have been written by Mitchell himself.
Or McCann himself.

In an undertaking like this you'd think objectivity and an open mind would be key.
Neither applies here, they've already made their minds up about what happened, they've already taken sides and they're going to proceed from that standpoint.
In which case, they'll get absolutely NOWHERE.

How very, very unprofessional (and that's putting it mildly).
Which tends to make one smell a very large rat.
I could say more, but I've exhausted my supply of four-letter words for this week.
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Post by kangdang on 09.09.10 16:29

It is crystal clear A.I.C believe Madeleine McCann was abducted. Thus, any investigation undertook by them would be a pointless exercise, it would be biased from the onset - They would be seeking to prove abduction. The key to good investigative work is akin to that of a scientist, one must seek to disprove rather than prove what one believes to be true. This is exactly the path Amaral and his colleagues followed, they were repeatedly led back to the McCanns and their friends.

A.I.C state "” Madeleine McCann has had the highest media interest of any missing child", indeed she has. Despite all the leads this interest has generated, not one single Police force in the world has been able to locate her or her alleged abductors, they have not even come close - All leads have proved fruitless. Not to forget also the McCanns long string of PI's....Still nothing.

A.I.C. is a company of parasites, they seek only to work this case for glory and free publicity, and subsequent revenue that will bring in. Despicable.

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Post by kangdang on 09.09.10 16:51



A.I.C Legal Services Ltd intend to apply for Business of the year award 2010, due to the servcies we supply, which in our opinion are completely unequalled anywhere in the UK. A.I.C . Legal Services Ltd is one of the first Detective Agencies to set up professional in house training, we were the first to overcome new ways to disprove fraudulent claims for Work Related Stress cases, We will be one fo the first to complete the ISO9001, which we are currently working through at present.

We have continued to expand and set up Detective Agencies in Sutton in Ashfield, Nottingham, Derby and Northern Ireland when all others around us have made serious cuts or gone out of business.

We look forward to putting ourselves forward for this award and in doing so we will do it with confidence and like everything else within this company we look forward to the challenge.

And wouldn't it be nice to cite Madeleine McCann on your application! I feel physically sick.

ETA http://www.aiclegalservicesltd.co.uk/aic-legal-services/aic-business-year-award-2010/

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Post by kangdang on 09.09.10 17:09

Lie Detector – Channel 5 Trisha
Posted 17 August ,2010 in AIC Legal Services, Private Investigations
Another step forward for A.I.C Legal Services as we signed up a deal today to have exclusive rights to Lie detector/polygraph testing on behalf of NADAC.

If you have any doubts about the credibility of this service or you want to know more then please click on the front page and read for yourself. Don Cargill and Nadia Penner are famous for the testing of some very famous cases and his professionalism is second to none.

After lengthy discussions the meeting drew to a close with both parties very happy with each others services, hands were shook and a partnership was borne.

This is the way forward for all professional Investigators and Investigation companies. Unfortunately for other Investigators we have the sole exclusive rights to the best company in Europe. Please ensure you click on Lie Detector and read all our services.

Wonder if their investigations could incorporate testing the McCanns?

Co. directors are Mr Alan Macclean & Mr. Dale Christopher Evans, company reg. 07041353 - Registered at Companies House on 14/10/2009.

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Post by macy on 09.09.10 19:13

Well if they can`t even `search` for typos in their bumf, they stand little chance of finding Madeleine !

.I.C Legal Services Ltd intend to apply for Business of the year award 2010, due to the servcies we supply, which in our opinion are completely unequalled anywhere in the UK. A.I.C

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Post by macy on 09.09.10 19:14

Hey thanks for my lovely avatar ! Same one I have on MM !
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Post by Guest on 09.09.10 19:19

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Post by macy on 09.09.10 19:22

Hi candyfloss !
Been reading here for ages but just got around to posting ! Spend most of my time on Twitter !
Thanks for lovely welcome !!
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Post by Judge Mental on 09.09.10 19:37

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Post by macy on 09.09.10 20:28

hi Judge !

Absolutely loooove reading your posts !!! Always put a smile on my face !!!
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Post by kangdang on 09.09.10 21:22

@macy wrote:Well if they can`t even `search` for typos in their bumf, they stand little chance of finding Madeleine !

.I.C Legal Services Ltd intend to apply for Business of the year award 2010, due to the servcies we supply, which in our opinion are completely unequalled anywhere in the UK. A.I.C

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aye, I noticed that as well...not an isolated instance either.

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Post by kangdang on 09.09.10 21:40

Jeez....

A.I.C.[idiot cops] Legal Services Ltd have a wealth of experience and expertise in all fields of Investigations and Surveillance. Our unique in house training is carried out by ex Royal Ulster Constabulary Officers using the latest equipment and technology."

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Post by baconbutty on 09.09.10 21:49

That'll be Dave Edgar and Jim Gamble with two cocoa tins and a piece of string then? big grin
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Post by Judge Mental on 09.09.10 22:09

@baconbutty wrote:That'll be Dave Edgar and Jim Gamble with two cocoa tins and a piece of string then? big grin

lol!

You have just helped me to click something into place that has troubled me for some time. Something to do with Chinese whispers on the internet

Upon hearing about the Kennedy stake-out, one automatically assumed they would have been dressed in camouflage gear holding walkie-talkies like spies do in films. However, it may be that Edgar and Gamble were just doing their job when Kennedy said he was going for a take-out, or that they were leaving them to it and going for a steak out.
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Post by aiyoyo on 10.09.10 0:41

"A.I.C Legal Services Ltd are calling on ALL Private Investigators all over the world to use all the resources open to them and all their contacts to raise the profile of this case again,"

Who is AIC anyway; and did they say the mccanns hired them?

Why the sudden late entrance?
If they have the power to mobilise all private investigators, and quality of their services is as they bragged about, why didnt the mccanns use them in the first place from the outset? Why now? What's their point?

Any PI or PI agency bugging in at this late stage after having had the benefit of all the negative news splashed in the press and media in 2007 about mccanns been made suspects and all the rest of it should at least have the nuance to ask to read the police files or dvd release before shooting off the hips without making sense or logics, hence displaying a total lack of capability to use functioning brain cells wisely, that is presuming they are not void of this precious commodity (functioning brain cells I mean).

PIs hired at the beginning to do a parallel investigation with investigating authorities is quite a different matter from PIs coming in now after facts of the fact, then branishing a bogus magic wave, expecting Maddie to be 'detected'; or think it's their god given right to expect anything at all.
They failed miserably to acknowledge investigative authorities statements that 'Maddie is MOST LIKELY DEAD.'

This was reported very clearly without ambiguity in the Interim Report as well as the stated position of the Public Prosecutor, albeit the latter quantified it in % percentage, largely so as to be seen to remain objective. As far the investigators were concerned, it seems to be it wasn't a case as if an alternative theory is viable because there wasnt a shred of evidence pointing any other way than 'died in the apartment'.

What did people, AIC for that matter, think happened to the interim period between Interim Report and Final Archive? Did they think the new head of inspector didnt have to work with team of colleagues already on the case? Did they think Pebelo (sp) wiped clean the slate and start anew? Was it stated anywhere in the released info that Pebelo started on a wiped clean slate?

Surely logics dictate he was working jointly in conjunction along the same theory and lines with his colleagues who were already ahead with the investigations. It wasnt as if he's a new division/department given a new directive or totally new team altogether to start all over.
He was merely replacement of Amaral to head the team - successor meaning exactly per se. Obstacles were put his way by UK authorities and it didnt help that perpetrators and witnesses already fled the crime scene and not readily available to haul to the station to answer questions or reenact the reconstruction.

His and his team's task was made extremely difficult by circumstances enveloping the case.
Even armed with that kind of strong circumstantial evidence, any top class investigators are limited by what they can do under those excruciating nfavourable circumstances. All crimes solving rely on police been able to have access and to be able to freely question suspects and witnesses and cooperation from governmental authorities.

The statement was they'd exhausted all avenues of info and couldnt take it further, as in cannot pin down who perpetrated the crime against MBM; and NOT as in they were looking for an abductor.
The fact that they've stopped looking for her is a damn good indication of investigators conviction of thing. I get the impression even the UK police are no longer looking for her. The HO may claim investigation is ongoing, but the ongoing does not involve 'still searching for her' - that much is evident. And, that is precisely mccanns contentious issue isnt is!

Let's face it no one is fooled by them. If anything people know them they are trying their damnest to maintain a lie because they are not home and dry free of exoneration, which is a SORE point with them.
Despite the handsome sum wasted on various set of PIs who incidentally came up with absolutely zilch that was useful so far, except for some laughable rubbish. Not forgetting one of such dodgy hires is faced with trial for con scandal.

It's an understatement to say that the writing was on the wall long ago. The mccanns and team are fooling no one except their own conscious. Surrounding themselves with dodgy hires and devious characters as capable if not better than them of shenanigans is not normal behavior of innocents. It's no surprise then that the stinking reputation of fragrant (not) pair is permeating and polluting the air with its puke inducing stench that floats global wide.

They have to hope fervently that their luck holds out indefinitely. Even so, will their stinking reputation vanish in thin air just like Maddie? I dont think so!
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Post by WOODWARD on 10.09.10 2:08

There have been increasingly desperate attempts to find out all the evidence given to Leicester police, some of which has been witheld.

Recently extreme pressure was applied to the Home Secretary to have the case reviewed,Jim Gamble was quoted as wanting a force other than Leicester police to examine all information,he was also extremey critical of the Portuguese investigation, he features front page on Rosiepops forum
Another attempt to bounce Theresa May into action was to trumpet her private meeting with the mccanns and shortly afterwards claim that the met were about to reinvestigate-later denied by a met spokesperson but only on twitter to a journalist.
There was also a press release linking public spending cuts to the reluctance for police forces to take on the case
An appeal on the same blog requested everyone who had given any statement to the police to give that same statement to the mccanns PI,S.
N OW we have some organisation ,using the word "charity" trying to gather any and all statements and evidence

Early on the mccanns tried to get Leicester police to release all information recieved from the public, a particularly stupid judge granted their wish but this was a step too far even for the LP who finally realised that setting such a precedent would mean that all parents of missing children or indeed adults might apply forfor the same treatment ,even those who werent automatically believed because they were doctors,and the decision was overturned on appeal.
The MCcanns already know what the PJ think,they have done for months, they want to know what the rank and file of the UK forces think.

Jim Gambles criticism of the UK police IN a newspaper article was unbelievable given that he is also employed by the taxpayer in general and theHome Office in paricular,extraordinary arrogance -even for him
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Post by aiyoyo on 10.09.10 2:20

@WOODWARD wrote:There have been increasingly desperate attempts to find out all the evidence given to Leicester police, some of which has been witheld.

Recently extreme pressure was applied to the Home Secretary to have the case reviewed,Jim Gamble was quoted as wanting a force other than Leicester police to examine all information,he was also extremey critical of the Portuguese investigation, he features front page on Rosiepops forum
Another attempt to bounce Theresa May into action was to trumpet her private meeting with the mccanns and shortly afterwards claim that the met were about to reinvestigate-later denied by a met spokesperson but only on twitter to a journalist.
There was also a press release linking public spending cuts to the reluctance for police forces to take on the case
An appeal on the same blog requested everyone who had given any statement to the police to give that same statement to the mccanns PI,S.
N OW we have some organisation ,using the word "charity" trying to gather any and all statements and evidence

Early on the mccanns tried to get Leicester police to release all information recieved from the public, a particularly stupid judge granted their wish but this was a step too far even for the LP who finally realised that setting such a precedent would mean that all parents of missing children or indeed adults might apply forfor the same treatment ,even those who werent automatically believed because they were doctors,and the decision was overturned on appeal.
The MCcanns already know what the PJ think,they have done for months, they want to know what the rank and file of the UK forces think.

Jim Gambles criticism of the UK police IN a newspaper article was unbelievable given that he is also employed by the taxpayer in general and theHome Office in paricular,extraordinary arrogance -even for him

Jim Gamble is a liability to taxpayer and should be gotten rid, the sooner the better!

It's blatantly obvious he is not objective and is (perhaps knowingly) misleading the public.
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Post by Judge Mental on 10.09.10 2:54

aiyoyo wrote: ''Jim Gamble is a liability to taxpayer and should be gotten rid, the sooner the better!

It's blatantly obvious he is not objective and is (perhaps knowingly) misleading the public.''

thinking thinking

You may indeed have a point here. One has often pondered as to why Kate McCann would approach Gamble, and although one has to take their word for how their initial encounter came about, one has more than a suspicion that she was prompted into doing so by somebody else. It would not be at all difficult to figure out the reasons for this.

It may very well be the case that Leicester police are holding onto something which they may need to use as an insurance policy one day, especially as Gordon Brown's involvement ratched up a notch and he suddenly found time in his pressing schedule to go along to Leicester in person.
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Post by sharonl on 10.09.10 7:07

A.I.C. LEGAL SERVICES LIMITED
BENTLEY BRIDGE HOUSE
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UNITED KINGDOM
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Company No. 07041353

The company was incorporated on 14 October 2009

Director - Dale Christopher Evans

Alan McClean - Appointment terminated on 12 January 2010

Here is their website blog http://www.aiclegalservicesltd.co.uk/

I notice that the registered office does`nt appear in the contact details.

I Also notice that the testimonials talk about "years", the company has only been set up for 11 months

Alan`s telephone number does`nt appear in the contact details

thinking I wonder if Dale Evans is aware of this blog.

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Post by aiyoyo on 10.09.10 7:26

@Judge Mental wrote:aiyoyo wrote: ''Jim Gamble is a liability to taxpayer and should be gotten rid, the sooner the better!

It's blatantly obvious he is not objective and is (perhaps knowingly) misleading the public.''

thinking thinking

You may indeed have a point here. One has often pondered as to why Kate McCann would approach Gamble, and although one has to take their word for how their initial encounter came about, one has more than a suspicion that she was prompted into doing so by somebody else. It would not be at all difficult to figure out the reasons for this.


It may very well be the case that Leicester police are holding onto something which they may need to use as an insurance policy one day, especially as Gordon Brown's involvement ratched up a notch and he suddenly found time in his pressing schedule to go along to Leicester in person.

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Even if Leics Police is holding onto an insurance policy to be cashed in later, I dont see why Jill Gamble should have got involved with the mccanns case to the extent he did. The incident didnt happen in UK.

Ok, granted he may need to express interest and to help/support where Maddie disappearance is concerned, but why must he get himself personally involved to the extent exceeding what he would normally extend to parents of other missing children. I mean just the online service on CEOP website alone - appeal in 6 languages (isnt it)? Unprecedented no doubt?

He also went on national TV to appeal on their behalf. Has he done that so far for other missing children? Not that I know of but I stand corrected of course.

No matter the circumstances of their first meeting and what transpired then, surely after the negative reports on mccanns - them been made suspects and all the negatives that went with it - surely an objective chief of such an organisation would say: hey wait a minute, the police investigators dont do things without good reasons; and then perhaps he should put things in the right perspective in that CEOP support for Maddie disappearance should not be lesser, but at the same time he should not mislead the public into thinking he fully supported her parents and by extension their abduction theory.

If he should decide to take a step backdward, and distant himself from public appearance collectively with the mccanns, that is surely not going to harm the mccanns. Au contraire it would show that CEOP is able to put things in the right context/perspective and serve its purpose while staying objective about the case.

I still think in the mccanns case, he personally went overboard by normal practice and standard unparalleled or unprecedented in previous record or present cases for the matter.

He has to be rather naive or rather guillable not to have the sense to discern and evaluate the case as should be done in a proper manner befitting someone in his role and what his organisation stands for. Man in his position simply does not get to that position by being an ostrich, a creature where its eyes are bigger than its brain. So, either he is in the know and under directive to spread disinformation, or he's point blank stupid, and hence not suited to head such an organisation. Either way one looks at it, he's a liability to taxpayers.
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Post by kangdang on 10.09.10 7:53

Registered Number: 07041353 - Registered at Companies House on 14/10/2009
Type of business: Unknown
Address: BENTLEY BRIDGE HOUSE
CHESTERFIELD ROAD
MATLOCK
DERBYSHIRE
DE4 5LE

Companies House Details
Companies House Number: 07041353
Incorporation Date: 14 Oct 2009
4 documents available View other documents available on this company
Financial Year End31-10
People connected with the Company
ALAN MACCLEAN Appointment terminated as director on 12 Jan 2010 (Document)
MR ALAN MACCLEAN Particulars Changed as director on 15 Dec 2009 (Document)
MR DALE CHRISTOPHER EVANS Particulars Changed as director on 15 Dec 2009 (Document)

Documents are available for veiwing at £4.99 each...sorry I'm skint lol!

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Post by kangdang on 10.09.10 7:54

Apologies Sharonl, it appears I duplicated your post.

ETA
By the way, who sent me a pm last night/early hours? I got the email notification, but there is no new pm in my inbox? Can that person resend the pm please

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