Re: Gaspar statements/different perspective

by Liz Eagles Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:51 pm

plebgate wrote:Well there you go Woofer, seems an alternative reason cannot be argued even whencertain links are posted. Links which I have not read and do not intend doing so.

It's a website (in Pink - how lovely). Another bloody 'train the trainer' involved in the industry of child abuse. Ask Jim Gamble - he does a lovely line in training programmes.

by plebgate Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:52 pm

Don't need to read links, asked on simple question as to why and how such a subject would be broached on a relaxing holiday you said don't ask me.

Edited to add this post in answer to Woofer's last post at me.

by kimHager Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:53 pm

I think woofer is saying abused children can actout abuse especially young ones who dont know any different.It is however not something i think parents discuss with others at dinner and its sickening. I believe the Gaspar statements are true tho.And i believe maddy was a victim of this atrocious disgusting.sick thing.My opinion

by Liz Eagles Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:56 pm

Woofer wrote:
plebgate wrote:Well there you go Woofer, seems an alternative reason cannot be argued even whencertain links are posted. Links which I have not read and do not intend doing so.
Oh well, if you won`t read the links - the conversation ends here.

Woofer, there is no place in a mother's heart whatsoever to read this garbage and provide a link that is basically rubbish. I've seen more text written on how to cook a Yorkshire pudding.

by Woofer Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:59 pm

kimHager wrote:I think woofer is saying abused children can actout abuse especially young ones who dont know any different.It is however not something i think parents discuss with others at dinner and its sickening. I believe the Gaspar statements are true tho.And i believe maddy was a victim of this atrocious disgusting.sick thing.My opinion

Thanks Kim - yes that`s what I was saying. And obviously any child is a victim. I think some posters were trying to twist my words so that it appeared I was saying it was the child`s fault - obviously not.

by Woofer Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:02 pm

aquila wrote:
Woofer wrote:
plebgate wrote:Well there you go Woofer, seems an alternative reason cannot be argued even whencertain links are posted. Links which I have not read and do not intend doing so.
Oh well, if you won`t read the links - the conversation ends here.
Woofer, there is no place in a mother's heart whatsoever to read this garbage and provide a link that is basically rubbish. I've seen more text written on how to cook a Yorkshire pudding.

Aquila - I don`t understand what you`re on about there. I think you`ve either got the wrong end of the stick or I didn`t post clearly.

by plebgate Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:05 pm

Woofer wrote:
kimHager wrote:I think woofer is saying abused children can actout abuse especially young ones who dont know any different.It is however not something i think parents discuss with others at dinner and its sickening. I believe the Gaspar statements are true tho.And i believe maddy was a victim of this atrocious disgusting.sick thing.My opinion
Thanks Kim - yes that`s what I was saying. And obviously any child is a victim. I think some posters were trying to twist my words so that it appeared I was saying it was the child`s fault - obviously not.

Posters were not twisting your words at all Woofer. Your posts are there to be read and questions were asked. Questions you ended up replying - don't ask me.

by juliet Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:18 pm

So who was abusing Madeleine or Lily, so that Payne needed to slide his finger in and out of his mouth and circle his nipple and say to Gerry McCann "Does she do this?"Plus Payne photographed grabbing and clutching that poor girl in the file pics....ugh ugh ugh.

by kimHager Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:20 pm

Well i read the signs of sexual abuse and a few jumped out at me.Behaviors and inappropriate sleep arrangements (i saw maddy was allowed in TM bed but not the twins?) Sleep disturbances( star chart anyone?) The men consistently bathed the children and DP was bathing children that wasnt his WHY WOULD HE EVEN WANT TOO?? In my family mom bathes.the children. Men normally are not the caregiver to kids like this. I realize i may sound old fashion but its not normal. My opinion

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