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The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

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The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by bristow on 09.06.14 8:36

Does anyone know (maybe Praaia?) if any interest is being shown in apartment 5a while these latest digs are happening?
Just wondering, is it cordoned off, is it occupied by holiday makers, will SY be looking there?
After all AR did mention MBM probably didn't leave the apartment alive?

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by The Rooster on 09.06.14 9:33

This is a very very good point. With the dogs in the area, why not re-examine the apartment and confirm if possible the findings of 7 years ago. That would add gravitas to the "she died in the apartment" comments made by Redwood.  Whilst at it do the Church.

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Post by kimHager on 09.06.14 13:15

That's what I say would it hurt to bring in a few other sniffers too verify Eddy n keel as findings

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by suzyjohnson on 09.06.14 13:56

Maybe they don't want to verify the findings, maybe it would be too much trouble for them

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by ultimaThule on 09.06.14 14:18

It can serve no useful purpose, nor is there any need whatsoever, to verify the findings of the EVRD dogs Keela and the late Eddie as their work was videoed in the presence of more than one witness and formally attested to by their handler at the time they were deployed in and around 5A.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by PeterMac on 09.06.14 16:23

@ultimaThule wrote:It can serve no useful purpose, nor is there any need whatsoever, to verify the findings of the EVRD dogs Keela and the late Eddie as their work was videoed in the presence of more than one witness and formally attested to by their handler at the time they were deployed in and around 5A.  
The findings of Keela and Eddie are verified by
Zapata
Jone
Prout
Pilley
Baker
Montano
Jennings
Hoholski
Patz
Dickens
Gifford-Hull


and several others across the world.
Many of the assailants are serving life. Some are facing the Death Penalty - on the basis of an alert by a dog. No bodies have been discovered in most of these cases

Gerry and Janet know know this.
They have no choice but to try to deny the accuracy of the dogs' findings. No alternative at all. They are absolutely trapped.
Even Kay Burley made the point very clearly -
"The haters refer to cadaver dogs who showed ‘beyond doubt’ that a body must have been kept in the wardrobe of the apartment and then later driven in the McCann’s hire car to be buried." Refer, & showed 'beyond doubt'
No question of a mistake or misunderstanding or false positive.

Come on Gerry and Janet. Wake up. There is still time to prepare a long emotional Jeremiad in mitigation.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by suzyjohnson on 09.06.14 16:28

Who's Janet?

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by aiyoyo on 09.06.14 16:57

Janet nee Healy.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by PeterMac on 09.06.14 17:09

@aiyoyo wrote:Janet nee Healy.
Janet Marie James,   aka Kate Marie Healy - McCann
It is the name she uses to post anonymously on Youtube and facebook
when she lambasts people for hiding behind false names.  

It stands repeating - frequently - simply to show the extent of the double standards and hypocrisy demonstrated by these people.






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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by plebgate on 09.06.14 17:37

Have I ever left my child alone in the garden or bath.   NO I HAVE NOT, maybe at a much  older age, but certainly not at the age of 3 years old.  Can't believe what I read then.  So someone could be watching and waiting on a perfect holiday, waiting for you to turn your head.   WHAAATTT.    Weren't the children left alone several nights in a row whilst they went out to wine and dine.   Hardly just turning their heads.

Thanks for posting PM, as you say for those of us who do not visit many forums, it is of great interest to read these things.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by sami on 09.06.14 18:09






That is THE most unbelievable thing I have ever seen written about this case.  "Why is the focus on the parents". -  what kind of a stupid question is that.  Do they think Madeleine was 18 years old ?  


I'm far from a perfect parent, such a species does not exist, but I have never left a three year old alone in the bath and my modest back garden cannot be accessed by the public from three sides and the fourth has a padlocked gate.  That is more to keep the kids in, rather than murdering burglar abductor tractor driving bin collecting drug addicts out.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by Dr What on 09.06.14 18:21

I was not aware of this deception either.

In many ways, what it reveals goes to the heart of this affair.

Can you believe the McCanns? Can you trust the McCanns?

They ask people to support and believe in them, and yet they play games with everyone.



They should face up to their responsibilities in this case, before some other Authority does it for them.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by Guest on 09.06.14 18:27

Never, never leave a child alone in a bath.    A child can drown in a puddle FGS.    Where is the commonsense.   
Of course one's children have been 'left' in a garden, but with parental observation.

In fact, how many children have actually "disappeared under the noses of the parents",  it doesn't happen.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by bristow on 09.06.14 20:10

I would love to know if that apartment is occupied at this moment in time, I really would.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by MissesWillYa on 09.06.14 20:16

My older child is almost nine years old and I've only just started letting him stay alone in the bathtub. Until a few weeks ago, I sat on the toilet while he bathed. Now I sit just outside the bathroom listening through the door. I don't mind giving him privacy now that he's older, but I'm only inches away in case he needs help.

I would like for "Janet" to offer some examples of children who went missing "right under their parents' noses." Such as whom? I'm fairly well-versed in missing-children's cases as a longtime user of Websleuths. I can rattle off facts from most of the major ongoing ones in my own country (USA) and a few other countries' cases too. I can't think of one that happened while the mother or father was standing right there, vigilantly watching (not to say that I even believe parents should be required to do that to prevent the tiny possibility of stranger abduction, but we should do a lot better than the two of them did!)

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by Mirage on 09.06.14 21:05

I would comment on this but I am not sure how one is able to ascertain JMJ is in fact KMH.

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Re: The condition of apartment 5a at the time of these excavations?

Post by Guest on 09.06.14 23:34

Yes I don't know about that either, Mirage.

The Janet on the OFM page could be Kate's aunt for all I know.

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