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Ladyinred wrote:Nor me. The child on the right resembles Amelie, IMO.Amy Dean wrote:For what it's worth, I don't think those photos are of the same child.
That was exactly my thought. There are some other pictures in my opinion depicting Amelie, not Maddie. These are the pics showing supposed Maddie in an early toddler age, with very fair hair in a bob, fuller face and cheek bones less prominent than in other photos. I believe also some pictures of Kate as a child were thrown in the mix. Apart from Kate and Amelie there are also at least two "Maddies", one puffy eyed, with dimples in her cheeks and second one, with big eyes and pointed chin. There might be also another one, pretty big girl, definitely most mature looking of them all with a downturn at the tip of her nose (red jacket photo, for instance).
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It's nonsense.MrsHyde wrote:BlueBag wrote:MrsHyde wrote:
So, as much as a nose of a little girl can and will grow, the nose wings do not change their shape, and that shape is different on the two "Maddie" pics I compared here. Another interesting thing is that the nasal root, point where the nose bridge meets the forehead, is considerably higher on the left picture than on the right one, similarily to the nose tip, that is clearly rounded and more defined on the left. So, for me it seems we have here more than one Maddie on these pics.
Same old nonsense.
It's not nonsense. It's human anatomy. And it's weird, so much posts written about the possibility that the pictures, purportedly depicting Maddie, actually show two or more different girls, but an attempt to find the evidence of it is called nonsense .
Madeleine went to nursery school with other children and was part of a large family, she was well known to a lot of people. Including the Gaspers.
Now I notice you are saying there are three Madeleines.
You really want us to appear like conspiracy nutters?
Some people are fond of games.
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Do you people purposely try and misunderstand? Mrs Hyde is saying that the pictures shown as 'Maddie' are in fact sometimes photos of another similar looking child, '' thrown into the mix.'' . I don't think she's actually saying........................although you and Verdi choose to interpret it that way............................that there are several 'clones' of Madeleine all of whom were taken to PDL and lived at one time or another in Rothley. I've tried to be as polite as I can but no doubt will get the 'red card.' And I agree with her.
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That's how I took Mrs H's post too. No weird conspiracy theory stuff - just that some photos supposedly of Madeleine don't look like her.
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And that's exactly what I mean : not all of the photos purportedly depicting Maddie, actually depict her. Some of them depict other children. I DO NOT claim that there are or were any clones of Maddie, or multiple Maddies appearing in real life and I never stated anything like that. I am talking about photos.
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So, for me it seems we have here more than one Maddie on these pics.
Apart from Kate and Amelie there are also at least two "Maddies", one puffy eyed, with dimples in her cheeks and second one, with big eyes and pointed chin. There might be also another one, pretty big girl, definitely most mature looking of them all with a downturn at the tip of her nose (red jacket photo, for instance).
Whatever.
I still don't see why it matters that you think some of the pictures of Madeleine bear a resemblance to other close relatives (shock).
They all look like Madeleine at various stages of development. It's that simple.
If you want to make a mountain out of a molehill feel free to waste everyone's time - "they don't look like the same person" is standard fare on conspiracy forums - I'm going back a LONG way - swapped Papal doubles, McCartney... and a million others.
This case doesn't need multiple layers of theories about McCann games and photoshopped pictures.
There is only one photo that matters.
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BlueBag wrote:So, for me it seems we have here more than one Maddie on these pics.Apart from Kate and Amelie there are also at least two "Maddies", one puffy eyed, with dimples in her cheeks and second one, with big eyes and pointed chin. There might be also another one, pretty big girl, definitely most mature looking of them all with a downturn at the tip of her nose (red jacket photo, for instance).
Whatever.
I still don't see why it matters that you think some of the pictures of Madeleine bear a resemblance to other close relatives (shock).
They all look like Madeleine at various stages of development. It's that simple.
If you want to make a mountain out of a molehill feel free to waste everyone's time - "they don't look like the same person" is standard fare on conspiracy forums - I'm going back a LONG way - swapped Papal doubles, McCartney... and a million others.
This case doesn't need multiple layers of theories about McCann games and photoshopped pictures.
There is only one photo that matters.
So you are not interested in the discussion about that, Have you considered though that other people here might want do talk about the different Maddies? You know, it's simple, if you don't want to discuss something, you don't join the conversation.
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For the record kaz, I haven't so far commented on Mrs Hyde's interpretation of various photographs posted up on gerrymccannsblog - frankly I find it so exasperating it's best I keep a low profile.kaz wrote:Do you people purposely try and misunderstand? Mrs Hyde is saying that the pictures shown as 'Maddie' are in fact sometimes photos of another similar looking child, '' thrown into the mix.'' . I don't think she's actually saying........................although you and Verdi choose to interpret it that way............................that there are several 'clones' of Madeleine all of whom were taken to PDL and lived at one time or another in Rothley. I've tried to be as polite as I can but no doubt will get the 'red card.' And I agree with her.
Still, as you've dragged my name into the foray - I'm still interested and eager to learn what relevance you, or anyone else who finds the subject so fascinating, think this has on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann whilst holidaying in Portugal in April/May 2007.
As I said previously, what earthly reason could the McCanns have to pretend (or whatever word you prefer) another child/ren is their daughter Madeleine? If I'm right in saying these images are taken from Kate McCann's autobiography 'madeleine', or maybe even press articles, what impact does it have on either the investigation or the McCanns standing - or more to the point the reputation of this forum? If you, or anyone else, can provide a rational response as to why you think this issue so important/relevant to the disappearance of MBM then I'm all ears - or eyes - but otherwise I really can't see the point of all this.
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IF, as has been stated above, some photos depict "other children", then who owns those other children ? Surely other parents are not sitting back allowing their daughters image to be used, or are they in on the cover up too ? If they are trying to pass Amelie off as Madeleine, would no friend or neighbour or relative notice ? Even Amelie herself ?
I don't believe the child with the straw is Madeleine, but I do believe that sometimes, just sometimes, there can be a simple explanation for things. Perhaps Ethical Kidz used the image in error - a website administrator uploaded an incorrect photo and it has moved around the worldwide web uncorrected ever since. It is possible, human error can and does occur.
I don't believe the child with the straw is Madeleine, but I do believe that sometimes, just sometimes, there can be a simple explanation for things. Perhaps Ethical Kidz used the image in error - a website administrator uploaded an incorrect photo and it has moved around the worldwide web uncorrected ever since. It is possible, human error can and does occur.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]….as someone else has already pointed out on here tonight, but on a different thread…. "Please treat people with the level of courtesy you would want for yourself, united we stand! Unfortunately, no one has all the answers on this case.Verdi wrote:For the record kaz, I haven't so far commented on Mrs Hyde's interpretation of various photographs posted up on gerrymccannsblog - frankly I find it so exasperating it's best I keep a low profile.kaz wrote:Do you people purposely try and misunderstand? Mrs Hyde is saying that the pictures shown as 'Maddie' are in fact sometimes photos of another similar looking child, '' thrown into the mix.'' . I don't think she's actually saying........................although you and Verdi choose to interpret it that way............................that there are several 'clones' of Madeleine all of whom were taken to PDL and lived at one time or another in Rothley. I've tried to be as polite as I can but no doubt will get the 'red card.' And I agree with her.
Still, as you've dragged my name into the foray - I'm still interested and eager to learn what relevance you, or anyone else who finds the subject so fascinating, think this has on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann whilst holidaying in Portugal in April/May 2007.
As I said previously, what earthly reason could the McCanns have to pretend (or whatever word you prefer) another child/ren is their daughter Madeleine? If I'm right in saying these images are taken from Kate McCann's autobiography 'madeleine', or maybe even press articles, what impact does it have on either the investigation or the McCanns standing - or more to the point the reputation of this forum? If you, or anyone else, can provide a rational response as to why you think this issue so important/relevant to the disappearance of MBM then I'm all ears - or eyes - but otherwise I really can't see the point of all this.
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sami wrote:IF, as has been stated above, some photos depict "other children", then who owns those other children ? Surely other parents are not sitting back allowing their daughters image to be used, or are they in on the cover up too ? If they are trying to pass Amelie off as Madeleine, would no friend or neighbour or relative notice ? Even Amelie herself ?
Amelie won't go to the media, right? Neither will the family, because, I think for that level of similarity, the other "Maddie" must be related to Madeleine. Now, I don't claim that using the pictures of the other child(ren) is a part of coverup of anything, but at this moment I cannot say for sure what might or might not be relevant to Maddie's missing. Therefore, when I find something weird I point it out, to be inspected and discussed. Because it MAY be relevant and important.
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Just to throw some perspective into this, there were discussions many moons ago on the original forums about the possibility of Madeleine having a sister as a result of the IVF. Multiple births are not uncommon with IVF - Sean and Amelie are a prime example - and there was speculation that she may have been one of two children born to Kate, and that, for whatever reason, the other twin was adopted by someone else, possibly someone well known to the McCanns.
That, at least, would be one explanation for the possibility of a child who resembles Madeleine but who isn't Madeleine, who is present at McCann family gatherings, and whose identity would be kept secret, and for the cooperation of the child's parents.
That, at least, would be one explanation for the possibility of a child who resembles Madeleine but who isn't Madeleine, who is present at McCann family gatherings, and whose identity would be kept secret, and for the cooperation of the child's parents.
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It's been discussed on this forum too. Not sure where, though.
It's been discussed on this forum too. Not sure where, though.
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Well you haven't pointed out anything weird.MrsHyde wrote:
Amelie won't go to the media, right? Neither will the family, because, I think for that level of similarity, the other "Maddie" must be related to Madeleine. Now, I don't claim that using the pictures of the other child(ren) is a part of coverup of anything, but at this moment I cannot say for sure what might or might not be relevant to Maddie's missing. Therefore, when I find something weird I point it out, to be inspected and discussed. Because it MAY be relevant and important.
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I'm not asking anyone to provide answers about the case of MBM's disappearance, I'm simply asking for enlightenment as to what relevance past photographs of Madeleine and/or other children, might have on MBM's disappearance whilst on holiday in PdL in 2007.tinkier wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]….as someone else has already pointed out on here tonight, but on a different thread…. "Please treat people with the level of courtesy you would want for yourself, united we stand! Unfortunately, no one has all the answers on this case.Verdi wrote:For the record kaz, I haven't so far commented on Mrs Hyde's interpretation of various photographs posted up on gerrymccannsblog - frankly I find it so exasperating it's best I keep a low profile.kaz wrote:Do you people purposely try and misunderstand? Mrs Hyde is saying that the pictures shown as 'Maddie' are in fact sometimes photos of another similar looking child, '' thrown into the mix.'' . I don't think she's actually saying........................although you and Verdi choose to interpret it that way............................that there are several 'clones' of Madeleine all of whom were taken to PDL and lived at one time or another in Rothley. I've tried to be as polite as I can but no doubt will get the 'red card.' And I agree with her.
Still, as you've dragged my name into the foray - I'm still interested and eager to learn what relevance you, or anyone else who finds the subject so fascinating, think this has on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann whilst holidaying in Portugal in April/May 2007.
As I said previously, what earthly reason could the McCanns have to pretend (or whatever word you prefer) another child/ren is their daughter Madeleine? If I'm right in saying these images are taken from Kate McCann's autobiography 'madeleine', or maybe even press articles, what impact does it have on either the investigation or the McCanns standing - or more to the point the reputation of this forum? If you, or anyone else, can provide a rational response as to why you think this issue so important/relevant to the disappearance of MBM then I'm all ears - or eyes - but otherwise I really can't see the point of all this.
Far more important (therefore relevant) IMO is the scarcity of McCann family holiday photographs, why it was necessary for Gerry McCann to visit the UK in May 2007, returning with what has become widely known as 'the last photograph' - amongst other things like a spindoctor and why the McCanns gave the PJ what is clearly a younger image of their daughter, to use for the official 'missing' image ..
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That is always a possibility (although I don't think it likely) but why would the child's identity be kept secret? Adoption is not shameful and certainly not a criminal or even moral offence.canada12 wrote:Just to throw some perspective into this, there were discussions many moons ago on the original forums about the possibility of Madeleine having a sister as a result of the IVF. Multiple births are not uncommon with IVF - Sean and Amelie are a prime example - and there was speculation that she may have been one of two children born to Kate, and that, for whatever reason, the other twin was adopted by someone else, possibly someone well known to the McCanns.
That, at least, would be one explanation for the possibility of a child who resembles Madeleine but who isn't Madeleine, who is present at McCann family gatherings, and whose identity would be kept secret, and for the cooperation of the child's parents.
More to the point, why would Kate McCann select photographs of a secret child to annexe her book?
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She didn't.Verdi wrote:
More to the point, why would Kate McCann select photographs of a secret child to annexe her book?
The McCanns didn't live in a bubble before the disappearance and lots of people knew Madeleine, extended family, family friends, nursery.
This is just like 9/11 "hologram no planes" and "space beams" where people like to get other people running around for whatever purpose... fun, disinfo, smearing by association.
Anyone who has serious questions on forums these days get quickly surrounded by chaff, a lot of it deliberately aimed at making everyone look nuts by association.
Thankfully there are vigilant people here who know the score and know how to think critically.
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