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Re: Sunday Express - ACCEPTED VERSION OF EVENTS IS WRONG and DAILYSTAR - WHAT YOU KNOW IS NOT THE TRUTH
And they would know that the book version of K running along the beach and everyone seeing her, and then finding Madeleine at tea and then carrying her back because she was so tired - was also a lie
And - to quote another poster on another thread, if they were playing tenis, who was looking after the twins ?
And where does Payne's visit to the apartment to gaze at the half naked Kate fit in ?
SY are about to accuse the entire lot of being involved in a massive conspiracy - far greater than even the greatest conspiracy theorist on this or any other blog site has even contemplated.
Nice one Andy.
And - to quote another poster on another thread, if they were playing tenis, who was looking after the twins ?
And where does Payne's visit to the apartment to gaze at the half naked Kate fit in ?
SY are about to accuse the entire lot of being involved in a massive conspiracy - far greater than even the greatest conspiracy theorist on this or any other blog site has even contemplated.
Nice one Andy.
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That's if it's not an elaborate whitewash.PeterMac wrote:And they would know that the book version of K running along the beach and everyone seeing her, and then finding Madeleine at tea and then carrying her back because she was so tired - was also a lie
And - to quote another poster on another thread, if they were playing tenis, who was looking after the twins ?
And where does Payne's visit to the apartment to gaze at the half naked Kate fit in ?
SY are about to accuse the entire lot of being involved in a massive conspiracy - far greater than even the greatest conspiracy theorist on this or any other blog site has even contemplated.
Nice one Andy.
I've just had a thought re your post PM, could the Crimewatch programme be a ruse and it is infact a reconstruction of what actually did happen to Madeleine after all the people involved have been arrested. Actual crime investigations are regularly shown on TV, especially high profile cases, but there again why would Redwood be issuing the efit to find this person seen carrying a child, unless it is GM and SY are showing how he was caught with the help of the Smith's photofit.
All very confusing, my brain hurts, I think I'll have to have a lie down before we are all shocked by the Crimewatch revelations, or all feel totally let down and deflated by SY if it does turn out to be a complete whitewash.
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Madeleine McCann: the police are hunting for a needle in a haystack. Should we really be drawn into this circus?
By Dan Hodges Society Last updated: October 14th, 2013
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Images of the "man" police want to question (Photo: PA)
The circus continues. This morning the police have issued a new e-fit of a man they say they want to interview in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. It is on the front of every newspaper, website and television bulletin in the country.
We are being asked to examine it. To rack our brains and scour our memories. Is there anything about this man we find familiar? Is there anything we can do to help the investigation?
Our natural instincts kick in. We stare at it. Then we stare deep into ourselves. What if it was our own child, we say. So we stare once more. At the lifeless, digitally produced eyes of the monster. The man who may have snatched that little girl.
And at that point we are no longer observers of the circus, but part of it. And because we have become part of it, the harder we stare, the less we see.
Two e-fits have been produced this morning. According to police they are of the same man. But in fact, they are of two men. Their hair is different. Their eyebrows are different. Their noses are different. Their ears are different. Their lips are different. Their cheekbones are different.
But we’re all part of the circus now. So we say nothing.
The images of the “man” are being broadcast because, according to police, he represents a crucial lead. But if you listen harder you realise that’s not what the police are saying at all. Yes, a spokesman claimed, it was of “vital importance” the man in the images is identified and interviewed. But he then conceded that he “may or may not be key”. According to Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood “Whilst this man may or may not be the key to unlocking this investigation, tracing and speaking to him is of vital importance to us.”
He may be the key. He may not be the key. In the same way you or I may be the key, or may not be the key. But we are definitely part of the circus. So we say nothing.
And why is it “vital” this man be traced? Because he was seen with a child. Has anyone said it was Madeleine? No. Was he seen hanging around other children? Has he any record of child abduction, or demonstrating any inappropriate interest in children?
Apparently not. According to the police they need to interview him because “We have witnesses placing him in the resort area around the time of Madeleine's disappearance”. Praia da Luz has a resident population of over 3,000 people. That excludes the additional thousands who visit on holiday. And yet being “in the resort area” is now enough to warrant police investigation. But we are part of the circus. And fortunately, we weren’t in the area at the time. So we say nothing.
Is there anything else that makes this particular individual so important to the investigation? Apparently not. Here’s Det Ch Insp Redwood again: "This is far from our only line of inquiry and there will be e-fits released of other sightings as well, who we are equally keen to trace. These people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance and the days leading up to it."
So it seems there is nothing special about this “suspect”. There will be other e-fits. Other appeals. Other questions asked about people who “were in the area”. But we are part of the circus now. So we wait for them. And say nothing.
We certainly don’t question whether the police investigation is indeed making any headway. And why should we? The police spokesman assures us they are making “massive steps forward". Though they have also sought to “try and draw everything back to zero… take everything back to the beginning and then reanalyse and reassess everything, accepting nothing”. The police are moving forward, but they are also heading back to zero.
The investigating team also appear to be spreading their net wide. “Our requests for help need to be repeated in many different countries,” says Redwood. You may not have been in Praia da Luz. You may never have been to Portugal. You may not live in the UK. You may, in fact, live anywhere on the planet. But the police need your help. Even though they are making great progress. "We still have a lot of material to investigate and much work to do," Redwood admits.
And so before our very eyes we see the police engaged in this game of hunting a needle in the haystack. And yet we say nothing. We have our ringside seats to the circus. And we will not be vacating them.
But there are some who don’t have seats to the show. They are the faces that stare out from the website Missing Kids. It currently features 123 children who are currently missing from home. The youngest is three years old. The most recent date of disappearance was Michelle Brewer, reported missing six days ago. The oldest, Mary Flanagan, reported missing on December 31st, 1959.
They will have no television appeals. No e-fits. No special police units established after direct intervention from the Prime Minister.
Madeleine McCann is gone. But the circus rolls on.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100241245/madeleine-mccann-the-police-are-hunting-for-a-needle-in-a-haystack-should-we-really-be-drawn-into-this-circus/
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Sky saying that the reason E-Fit of 'Smithman' not issued before will become clear tonight
Sky saying that the reason E-Fit of 'Smithman' not issued before will become clear tonight
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Brilliant Candyfloss. I have just tweeted it. :)
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The embargo that Jason Farrell of Sky was on about................Oooo errr again!!russiandoll wrote:Dantew28 @Dantew28 1h
Sky saying that the reason E-Fit of 'Smithman' not issued before will become clear tonight
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Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it's on the latest Sky news online article and is quoted as being from Redwood
Here's the link
http://news.sky.com/story/1154367/madeleine-mccann-suspect-seen-carrying-child
What the heck, here's the full article in case it gets whooshed...
Since when did police officers say that a case has gone on for far too long? Usually they'll say we'll continue on until we find the perpetrator etc, so it seems like an odd thing to say, or not so odd if the Mc's really are in the frame in their mind and they're giving, yet another, subliminal messageThis case has now gone on for far too long and we need to bring some closure. If this is you, please call us."
Here's the link
http://news.sky.com/story/1154367/madeleine-mccann-suspect-seen-carrying-child
What the heck, here's the full article in case it gets whooshed...
A new suspect being sought over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was spotted carrying a child on the night she went missing.
Detectives have released two e-fit images of the man based on the accounts of two separate witnesses.
Both described seeing him in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on the evening of the three-year-old's disappearance on Thursday, May 3, 2007.
He is said have been seen walking towards the sea carrying a child of a similar age to Madeleine.
Their statements have been used to compose two e-fit images that will feature in a BBC Crimewatch appeal tonight.
Scotland Yard detectives' recent investigations have given them a far greater understanding of the times when the abduction could have taken place and this has made the statements from the witnesses far more significant.
Detectives say they have taken 'massive steps forward'
The man they want to contact is described as white, aged between 20 and 40 years old, with short brown hair, of medium build, medium height and clean shaven.
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, the senior investigating officer, said: "They are two e-fits of the same man, who was seen at around 10pm in Praia da Luz on the night that Madeleine disappeared, walking towards the ocean with a child in his arms.
"The man is described as being white with dark hair; the child: three to four years' of age with blonde hair and pyjamas.
"It's never too late and these e-fits have never been in the public domain before.
"Whilst this man may or may not be the key to unlocking this investigation, tracing and speaking to him is of vital importance to us.
"This is far from our only line of enquiry, and there will be e-fits released of other sightings as well, who we are equally keen to trace.
"This case has now gone on for far too long and we need to bring some closure. If this is you, please call us."
He added that detectives have been able to "make massive steps forward" by drawing together all the material gathered to date and reviewing it as a whole.
"We continue to put Madeleine at the heart of our investigation and I would urge people to watch Crimewatch tonight and if you can help identify this man or have any information about our new appeal points please contact us.
"Praia da Luz is a popular holiday destination for many nationalities so our requests for help need to be repeated in many different countries. I will be travelling to Holland, Germany and Ireland to seek the support of the public there.
"If you were in and around the Praia da Luz resort on Thursday, May 3, 2007, but you have not yet spoken to police, and you think you may have information, please pass it on.
"I would also like to ask for the help of the local community in Praia da Luz. Portugal is a key country for us to trace any outstanding witnesses and our appeals will be repeated there.
A scene from the new TV reconstruction
"We still have a lot of material to investigate and much work to do. Your information could be the vital piece we need to finally answer what happened to Madeleine."
In a clip from tonight's Crimewatch Madeleine's mother, Kate McCann says: "We're not the ones that have done something wrong here.
"It's the person who's gone into that apartment and taken a little girl away from her family."
Scotland Yard detectives, who have interviewed 442 people as part of their review-turned-investigation, hope to track down as many people as possible who were present in the Portuguese town at the time.
Since launching its own investigation, 41 people of interest have been identified, including 15 UK nationals.
Detectives have issued 31 international letters of request to mostly European countries in relation to some of these people, as well as accessing phone records.
Prime Minister David Cameron gave his support to the investigation.
He said: "I'm very pleased that Scotland Yard are doing this work. The Government has helped to fund the work that is being done.
"This was a crime that touched the heart of everyone in the country and everyone would like to see it resolved, so I hope Scotland Yard continue with their work and I wish them success."
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Mmm... so not a news embargo as such. I don't know how much longer I can take the suspense. Has the sun gone down over the yardarm yet?candyfloss wrote:The embargo that Jason Farrell of Sky was on about................Oooo errr again!!russiandoll wrote:Dantew28 @Dantew28 1h
Sky saying that the reason E-Fit of 'Smithman' not issued before will become clear tonight
Does anyone know if TrulyJudy or JudyTruly or whichever s/he calls herself has been tweeting of late as it may give a clue as to how K&G are spending the day?
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On Sky THE FULL EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THERE HAVE ONLY NOW BEEN E FITS OF THE MAN SEEN AT 10 PM WILL BE REVEALED AFTER THE CRIMEWATCH PROGRAMME.
Redwood - this case has gone on far too long. it is time we had some closure.
Redwood - this case has gone on far too long. it is time we had some closure.
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I haven't seen Judy tweeting today, but I've had it on good authority that she has beenultimaThule wrote:Mmm... so not a news embargo as such. I don't know how much longer I can take the suspense. Has the sun gone down over the yardarm yet?candyfloss wrote:The embargo that Jason Farrell of Sky was on about................Oooo errr again!!russiandoll wrote:Dantew28 @Dantew28 1h
Sky saying that the reason E-Fit of 'Smithman' not issued before will become clear tonight
Does anyone know if TrulyJudy or JudyTruly or whichever s/he calls herself has been tweeting of late as it may give a clue as to how K&G are spending the day?
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SY now claim #Madeleine #McCann taken between 8.30pm and 9.10pm which throws doubts on father's claim of having seen her at 9.12pm.
So are they saying the Smith sighting man walked around PDL for between 50
mins to 1 and a half hours?????? Or his has timeline changed too????
SY now claim #Madeleine #McCann taken between 8.30pm and 9.10pm which throws doubts on father's claim of having seen her at 9.12pm.
So are they saying the Smith sighting man walked around PDL for between 50
mins to 1 and a half hours?????? Or his has timeline changed too????
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"This is far from our only line of enquiry, and there will be e-fits released of other sightings as well, who we are equally keen to trace.This case has now gone on for far too long and we need to bring some closure. If this is you, please call us."
Wow! Is this a kind of threat, as in 'we're onto you and we'll release more and more obvious information to the public until you confess?'
Wow! Is this a kind of threat, as in 'we're onto you and we'll release more and more obvious information to the public until you confess?'
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so SY are going to say Gerry's watch was wrong?candyfloss wrote:UK Justice Forum @Justice_forum 58s
SY now claim #Madeleine #McCann taken between 8.30pm and 9.10pm which throws doubts on father's claim of having seen her at 9.12pm.
So are they saying the Smith sighting man walked around PDL for between 50
mins to 1 and a half hours?????? Or his has timeline changed too????
or that he has told a pork pie?
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Redwood said "it's never to late", is this aimed at the general public or particular people?
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Just had a thought.
What if this Crimewatch and the hulaboloo about the timelines being wrong and lies being told.
That means that people who were complicit and quite up till now because they felt protected might come forth.
If suddenly headlines are blazing Wrong and Not the Truth and you were in any way involved, you would want to go
forth before the knock on the door.
What if this Crimewatch and the hulaboloo about the timelines being wrong and lies being told.
That means that people who were complicit and quite up till now because they felt protected might come forth.
If suddenly headlines are blazing Wrong and Not the Truth and you were in any way involved, you would want to go
forth before the knock on the door.
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This is all getting too much for me.
I wasn't going to watch Crimewatch live until I knew what was on it, but I might just change my mind .....
I wasn't going to watch Crimewatch live until I knew what was on it, but I might just change my mind .....
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Where does that leave GM's statement about seeing her just after 9.10 ish??candyfloss wrote:UK Justice Forum @Justice_forum 58s
SY now claim #Madeleine #McCann taken between 8.30pm and 9.10pm which throws doubts on father's claim of having seen her at 9.12pm.
So are they saying the Smith sighting man walked around PDL for between 50
mins to 1 and a half hours?????? Or his has timeline changed too????
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Kate and Gezza are NOT going to 'fess up' on national TV are they?Ollie1 wrote:Redwood said "it's never to late", is this aimed at the general public or particular people?
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SY throws out sighting by Jane Tanner in which she thought she saw #Madeleine #McCann being carried off by an abductor at 9.15pm
SY throws out sighting by Jane Tanner in which she thought she saw #Madeleine #McCann being carried off by an abductor at 9.15pm
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http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/missing-information.html
VERY VERY INTERESTING- thank you Joana
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VERY VERY INTERESTING- thank you Joana
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But Andy Redwood also says..."Praia da Luz is a popular holiday destination for many nationalities so our requests for help need to be repeated in many different countries. I will be travelling to Holland, Germany and Ireland to seek the support of the public there.'
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I read somewhere that they won`t be there for the live show - they did a pre-recorded bit with Kirsty Young.jeanmonroe wrote:Kate and Gezza are NOT going to 'fess up' on national TV are they?Ollie1 wrote:Redwood said "it's never to late", is this aimed at the general public or particular people?
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SY now claim #Madeleine #McCann taken between 8.30pm and 9.10pm which throws doubts on father's claim of having seen her at 9.12pm.
Taken as in abducted or taken from us as in had an accident....
SY now claim #Madeleine #McCann taken between 8.30pm and 9.10pm which throws doubts on father's claim of having seen her at 9.12pm.
Taken as in abducted or taken from us as in had an accident....
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The pressure is on ! Jane being discounted as a reliable witness, Smith sighting, Redwood warning more info to come out later. A statement from Cameron wishing the yard well. It's not going to stop now. Pandora's box has well and truly been opened......candyfloss wrote:UK Justice Forum @Justice_forum 2m
SY throws out sighting by Jane Tanner in which she thought she saw #Madeleine #McCann being carried off by an abductor at 9.15pm
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But not Portugual !worriedmum wrote:But Andy Redwood also says..."Praia da Luz is a popular holiday destination for many nationalities so our requests for help need to be repeated in many different countries. I will be travelling to Holland, Germany and Ireland to seek the support of the public there.'
The McCanns say its because the Portuguese refused and the Portuguese TV companies said they were never asked.
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