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Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

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Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by bristow on 15.06.13 2:06

Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese police after they fail to make a breakthrough in six years



  • Home Secretary Theresa May has agreed to fund full-scale Met inquiry

  • Review identified 20 potential suspects and dozens of new leads

  • Portuguese authorities have refused to reopen the investigation



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342030/Scotland-Yard-takes-inquiry-Maddies-disappearance-Portuguese-police-fail-make-breakthrough-years.html#ixzz2WF6THf5y 

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by Nereid on 15.06.13 3:13

Thanks Bristow.

Very interesting.

"British police do not have jurisdiction in Portugal but they have the right to investigate and prosecute any British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342030/Scotland-Yard-takes-inquiry-Maddies-disappearance-Portuguese-police-fail-make-breakthrough-years.html#ixzz2WFNJYs3o

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Post by Woofer on 15.06.13 6:00

Usual rubbish about `shambolic Portuguese investigation` and the McCanns being `falsely accused`. So, they know for sure, do they, that the McCanns were falsely accused !!!! ???? Idiots.


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Post by PeterMac on 15.06.13 6:14

@Nereid wrote:Very interesting.
"British police do not have jurisdiction in Portugal but they have the right to investigate and prosecute any British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance."
That is what I thought. Is this code for "We are now going to interview them again - on their own - properly."

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by tigger on 15.06.13 6:29

So was the publicity storm with the multitude of sightings a lead-in to soften up the British tax-payers for the next twenty years? (See! We already found several creepies, couple of soothers and an entirely new dead paedo who's encored in todays DM).

Or is it to prevent the rest of the  files ever to come into the public domain as the previous 60% or so did? 

The tabloids must love it, it's going to recoup their losses on the pay-out to the McCanns in spades. Every now and then we'll get another suspect and flurry of interviews, SY on This Morning and why not on Woman's Hour? 

It's hardly news that SY can investigate this case - it was the British police who developed evidence against the McCanns initially anyway. 


On the positive side, not a lot of motivation for the strapped British public to hit the DONATE! button. The good people of Britain have been generous enough and imo it's highly unlikely that SY is even going to investigate the Ltd. Co. which has given the McCanns such support, although quite how much has yet to be established, failing the promised transparent accounts which were promised. Personally, on record, by the McCanns themselves. 

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by PeterMac on 15.06.13 7:02

20 Potential suspects
Tapas 9
Directors (not including above) 4
Retired Directors  5
Spokesperson 1
Alibi 1


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Post by PeterMac on 15.06.13 7:55

Only pro comments being allowed at the moment.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by Guest on 15.06.13 8:18

Snipped from Mail:

He had been lobbied by Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann – who were falsely accused by Portuguese police of being behind her disappearance

This is the only reference to KM and GM no fawning over, no interesting comment's from them, is the Mail tring to say something without being sued    

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What was shambolic?

Post by Seek truth on 15.06.13 8:25

Always mentioning shambolic but never saying what exactly the Portuguese police did wrong, they don't seem to know!

The case was the easiest because the WHOLE world got involved, which also means the portuguese had a tougher time receiving information from EVERYWHERE! The Algarve are full of Brits.

So if in those months the case was shambolic? What about the 2 years THEY THEMSELVES are taking?
I think they're trying to explain why £5m has been spent, lets blame the Portuguese! 


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Post by plebgate on 15.06.13 8:34

Not sure what to think about this really.  

How long and how much more is this going to cost the British taxpayer?

We are so used to white washes and things being kept secret it is hard to know how this will be handled.

If Maddie is still a ward of court, I doubt very much there will be much info. given about the investigation to the public and I don't think the papers will be given too much info. to report.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by Guest on 15.06.13 8:41

@PeterMac wrote:
@Nereid wrote:Very interesting.
"British police do not have jurisdiction in Portugal but they have the right to investigate and prosecute any British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance."
That is what I thought. Is this code for "We are now going to interview them again - on their own - properly."
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That's how I read it too.

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Post by Cristobell on 15.06.13 9:16

Ah well, at least extradition lawyers will not be able to prevent the mccanns and the tapas bunch being re-interviewed if it is done on home soil.

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 15.06.13 9:39

@Cristobell wrote:
Ah well, at least extradition lawyers will not be able to prevent the mccanns and the tapas bunch being re-interviewed if it is done on home soil.
Well put Cristobell!
My heart sank when I first read this, thinking 'whitewash' - but it would seem any prosecutions would be anticipated to be British or else what is the point?

I'm undecided atm whether this 'could be it' (justice) or 'could be it' (end and whitewash).

IF it were good news, wouldn't Mr+Mrs be gushing how pleased they are, suggests its not.
When there was the flurry of articles (ie USA 'sighting') - it was asked is something going on?
Was this it??? thinking

Oh well.....prisoner we can hope! At long last???

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Post by PeterMac on 15.06.13 9:43

@Cristobell wrote:Ah well, at least extradition lawyers will not be able to prevent the mccanns and the tapas bunch being re-interviewed if it is done on home soil.
I am sure they will all be desperate to help in any way they can.
And will willingly answer not only all the questions put to them, fully and truthfully, but will volunteer any other information the police may not have focussed on, even if they are interviewed under caution I cannot imagine they would reserve their right to silence in such an important matter as recovering their eldest and best loved daughter . .
Can you ?

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by Tony Bennett on 15.06.13 9:50

Daily Mail:


But Met detectives insist their leads could, if properly investigated, result in new evidence and perhaps the case being solved.


Wow! What an absolutely sensational breakthrough! This most definitely means that another £5 million, or many times more than that, should be spent by the Metropolitan Police taxpayer.

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Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements on 15.06.13 9:53

It's about time Amaral said something. He's been quiet for too long.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 15.06.13 10:05

Logically it just isn't possible that the SY could have reviewed the case without noticing all the inconsistencies in the statements.

So they must have reported back to the government that there is a possibility the Tapas group know more than they are saying?

At this stage, having spent millions on a review (and with the McCann's collecting donations) I expect the government would want to know exactly what was going on.

It's really about time the police solved the case isn't it?

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 15.06.13 10:08

@Tony Bennett wrote:Daily Mail:


But Met detectives insist their leads could, if properly investigated, result in new evidence and perhaps the case being solved.


Wow! What an absolutely sensational breakthrough! This most definitely means that another £5 million, or many times more than that, should be spent by the Metropolitan Police taxpayer.
Quite right Tony, I could win Euromillions if bought tickets, doesn't mean its likely though thumbup

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Post by Tony Bennett on 15.06.13 10:23

@rainbow-fairy wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:Daily Mail:


But Met detectives insist their leads could, if properly investigated, result in new evidence and perhaps the case being solved.


Wow! What an absolutely sensational breakthrough! This most definitely means that another £5 million, or many times more than that, should be spent by the Metropolitan Police taxpayer.
Quite right Tony, I could win Euromillions if bought tickets, doesn't mean its likely though thumbup

REPLY: But...perhaps...you might?  Is it worth a try?

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Post by stumo on 15.06.13 10:35

Is this yet another way in which the UK government will  be able to easily influence the outcome (towards a total whitwash)????

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Post by Guest on 15.06.13 10:41

Is this why they didn't return for a re construction and a ploy they have used for years?


'Tapas Seven demanded private jet and 5-star hotels to return to Portugal for Maddie reconstruction,' Portuguese police claim
Last updated at 22:27 11 April 2008


A planned reconstruction of the night Madeleine McCann vanished has been hampered by extravagant demands by the McCanns' friends, police are said to have claimed yesterday.
Portuguese officers have asked Kate and Gerry McCann and the so-called Tapas Seven to return to the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz for a re-enactment of the events of May 3 last year



The couple are considering the request, but police allegedly said their friends demanded private jet travel and five-star hotel accommodation.
A source is said to have told the Portuguese tabloid newspaper 24 Horas: 'The demands they make to return are impossible to entertain.
'One of the couples demanded a private jet to travel with their children to the Algarve. Another demanded they be put up in a five-star hotel.
'The demands they all made demonstrate a clear strategy by lawyers. The only thing missing from the list was a request that we send them to the Moon on skates

The McCanns, their seven friends, their spokesman Clarence Mitchell, his predecessor and two other holiday friends were all asked to return for the reconstruction, the newspaper reported


The Tapas Seven are university friends Matthew Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, David and Fiona Payne, plus Mr Oldfield's wife Rachael, Mr O'Brien's partner Jane Tanner and Mrs Payne's mother Dianne Webster.
All have been re-interviewed by British police this week - at the request of their Portuguese counterparts - about their accounts of the night of May 3.
Portuguese police were said to be suspicious about a series of alleged contradictions and inconsistencies in their witness statements.
Senior police chief Guilhermino Encarnacao confirmed that some of the witnesses - who also included a man who played tennis against Mr McCann and TV producer Jeremy Wilkins, who saw Mr McCann on the might of May 3 - had imposed certain conditions on their return to Portugal.
But he told 24 Horas: 'The reconstruction is important but it's not crucial to the investigations.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-558982/Tapas-Seven-demanded-private-jet-5-star-hotels-return-Portugal-Maddie-reconstruction-Portuguese-police-claim.html











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Post by PeterMac on 15.06.13 10:44

@Tony Bennett wrote:Daily Mail:

But Met detectives insist their leads could, if properly investigated, result in new evidence and perhaps the case being solved.

Wow! What an absolutely sensational breakthrough! This most definitely means that another £5 million, or many times more than that, should be spent by the Metropolitan Police taxpayer.
But look again at the wording.
SOLVED - NOT Madeleine being recovered, unharmed, and returned to her loving parents.
Case SOLVED- That means a conviction, in police terminology. You don't "solve" a missing child - you find it.

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Post by cass7 on 15.06.13 10:58

so to rubbish portugal police - they are infact rubbishing - their own too - wasnt it the uk that said look at gerry kate and the tapas crew - wasnt it the uk that brought in south yorkshires finest - eddie and keela and mr grimes ? - ok they want to take over - well they could start with looking at the last possible sighting of madeline being alive - and by whom - its was him it was her - i looked - no i only looked and listerned - ans what about the neglect issues ? i mean mr swathy manages to enter the appartment and nobody saw him - not one child woke up - including madeleine - and all in the space of a few mins between checks - hews fast aint he -- and no dna found - not one finger print - and as for the jemmied shutters i rest my case me lord - yep start at the very begging every one hauled in together answer questions put to them about their movements during all the holiday - nothing less is  a whitewash

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Post by loopzdaloop on 15.06.13 11:21

I'm a bit sick of seeing people complain about the cost of this investigation. 
How much do people think it should cost? It's cost a similar amount for the police to stand watch outside the embassy that Julian Assange is holed up in, so therefore as they have been doing something active it is actually good value for money.

Either way you look at this, this is one of the biggest crimes to of happened in this country.
It is certainly the most high profile crime. You should consider 'taxpayers' money an insurance policy, in that should anything happen to any of you of a similar magnitude, you should expect the police to throw all their resources at it. 

I'm particularly surprised at Mr Tony Bennett commenting upon the cost considering part of his defence previously was about the 'inequality of arms'. Thankfully in this country, it does not matter how much money, power or connections you have, the police will be supported to carry out investigations in the manner that they see fit.

I agree with Petermac and see this a positive development. Everyone here should stop being distracted by the way things are worded and need to start reading between the lines at what this actually means. 

What are the police actually saying by this, what powers does this give the police and what are the differences in how they can act than they could not previously?

People getting distracted by words such as 'shambolic' written by a 'journalist' of dubious repute (as evidenced by writing in the mail) is a complete and utter red herring. Are we not all 'citizen journalists' now anyway?

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Post by Guest on 15.06.13 11:29

BBC have it as breaking news........


15 June 2013 Last updated at 11:18





Met police to take on McCann probe





Investigation into disappearance of Madeleine McCann to be taken on by UK police, after funding deal agreed

More to follow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22918857

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