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Post by cass7 on Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:41 pm

when will this shite stop -- when a poor girl gets hurt -- most 10 years olds are allowed a bit of freedom and some crank is gonna think all little girls looking like madeleine are her for 5 mins of fame -- before the holiday season really starts --i hope theres gonna be some news to stop all this shite

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Post by Hobs on Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:30 pm

Remember also all the alleged sightings of Caylee Anthony all over the states when the little girl had been murder by casey on june 16th or thereabouts.

Remember also that cindy insisted Caylee was still alive and living in NY long after her body had been found and identified, long after she had been cremated and her ashed turned into jewelry worn around cindy's neck, which then begs the question, if it isn't Caylee whose remains are she and now casey wearing round their necks?


Cindy apparantly didn't see the incongruousness of this, the sightings also diverted attention from casey being the murderer, she is a murderer it is a shame the pinellas 12 were too dumb or too money grabbing to actually behave like a proper jury.

I see the same pattern with the gruesome twosome and the 7 dwarves, keep promoting the sightings, ignore anything that might conceivably point to their alleged involvement, sightings mean donations, which contradicts their spurious claims that Goncalo, Pat and Tony by denying their alleged version of events are harming and hindering the search whilst kate not answering 48 questions isn't considered as hindering even though she herself admitted it was.

Their behavior is unexpected as are their words,
Kate herself has told us several times IMO Madeleine is dead, as revealed by statement analysis, darn that word ALL, darn her telling us Maddie haunts her ( live people can't haunt you, dead people can) and introducing the word murder in the process of free editing whilst claiming she is alive and not suffering serious harm.
By the way, What is your definition of serious harm if alleged abduction by an alleged paedophile isn't classed as serious harm?


Writing the book was a seriously dumb idea IMO, since you are now committed by your own words to a timeline and story.
It will be compared to the rogs and all those little discrepencies will be revealed.
Claiming it wasn't what you meant won't work since they are your own words spoken and written in the process of free editing, and if you try to change them to correct one discrepancy you reveal several others.
Arrests will be made and your own words used against you and as revealed in the files it is suggested thatyou will be charged with homicide, concealment of a corpse and filing a false report.
Then in the UK you will more than likely be charged with perjury, obtaining money and services by deception, child neglect ( lying to your children and claiming a bad man took Maddie is emotional abuse)


The only reason you escaped child neglect charges in Portugal was the fact they couldn't charge you with homicide, concealment of a corpse and filing a false police report if they did regardless of the verdict, double jeopardy and all that.
Something i assume you were made aware of pretty darn quick and thus necessitated a speedy escape from Portugal and the hiring of extradition lawyers.
Imagine, all the money you received in the fund will have to be paid back or it is likley charges may result and all the monies you got from the media as compensation will also need to be paid back plus interest, lance armstong will give an idea of the finacial penaltiesincurred and also of the possible charges, perjury remember carries a life sentence..
You would lose your licences to practice and thus your livelihood, your reputation is down the drain, further than it is at the moment, all the bills for lawyers etc will have to be paid out your own pockets.
Bankrupt, homeless, shamed, reviled, not, i suspect something your saw in your future the day you qualified.
You will IMO lose custody of your children, you may even never see them again if they are fostered out to non family members due to the suggested risk of possible emotional harm to them from your families and from the indicated threat of physical harm from yourself.
The old If you can't have them no one can scenario.
You have told us you are a danger to them when you said you wanted to press a button and you would all be togeather, you would all be gone
If Maddie were alive you would have just made her an orphan.
Those few words in IMO and according to the rules of Statement Analysis tells me all i need to know.
The brain will always seek out ways to speak the truth and ease the pain, even when you are trying to deny it.
Murder-suicide it is called.
Aren't your families worried that you have told the world you are, IMO, willing to murder your two remaining children and then suiciding?
They should be.
All too often in such cases of child murder by a family member they telegraph their threats and promises and no one pays attention until it is too late.
The fear of losing their child to the other parent, maybe a family member or to child protection services is too much and the deed is done.
You see, killing the first time is the hardest, you have to break the taboo, it is a huge taboo thou shalt not kill.
Once you have killed, the second time becomes easier and so on, there are no taboos to be broken, you have crossed the line.
This is seen all to often in multiple murders.
Perhaps you viewed it not as a threat of murder, rather an act of kindness so they wouldn't have to lives their lives carrying the shame of their parents deeds?
Perhaps you think it is a kindness, they wouldn't suffer the pain of losing a parent or the pain of learning the truth.
They are growing up.
They will surf the net.
They will see all the forums and blogs.
They will read the excuses.
They will read the lies.
They will ask all those awkward questions you don't want to answer.
They will read the book and ask why you thought it was ok to leave them alone every night.
They will ask why you never searched.
They will ask why you refused to co-operate in finding their sister.
The never ending questions.
The doubt in their eyes as you tell them to always tell the truth whilst they see that you didn't.


The problem with committing a crime is once it is done it cannot be undone.
You cannot bring the dead back to life if they have been dead too long.
Bodies have a way of being discovered and there is no statute of limitation on murder.
DNA is the bugbear of every criminal, you take something with you (cadaverine, fluids) and leave something of yours behind, a single skin cell or hairtag is enough to prove guilt.


Even doctors cannot forensically clean an alleged dump site or a body.
This was learned the hard way when the dogs found body fluids and cadaverine in the apartment, on items of clothing both adult and a child, on cuddlecat and the hire car.
Boy, i bet there were shocks all round when the dogs alerted.
Was it forgotten or ignored how well trained such dogs are?
Was it forgotten or ignored how sensitive their noses are?
Sensitive enough for drugs, bodies both live and dead, cash, explosives, even fruit and veg or DVD's.
Would you get on a plane knowing an explosives dog had alerted?
I think not.
Would you and gerry ignore a search dog's alert if a loved one were trapped in a collapsed building.
Why do you and gerry deride the dogs as useless when day after day, people place their lives in the ability of a trained dog to detect danger.
Isn't it amazing how quiet you both got when the dogs you used as an example of a false result were finally proven to have been right all along.
I bet that was real embarrassing
Would their alerts have been ignored, demeaned and scorned if they had alerted to another apartment, to another vehicle?
Would you have turned down the use of search dogs on the night she allegedly vanished since they are apparantly so unreliable and only alert to please their trainers?
Would you and gerry have been so dismissive if the dogs had been brought out the night of the search and alerted to a trail?
Hell no, you both would have been demanding the occupiers and owners be interrogated and the places pulled apart in an effort to find Maddie.


Evidence suggests efforts to clean the apartment and a pretty good job was done, except it was cleaned it too much, evidence that should have been there wasn't.
Always a tell tale sign.
Police and forensics look not only for what is there that shouldn't be, also what isn't there that should be.


Surely it is better to tell the truth now, admit truthfully what was done by whom, do the time and have some chance of a life and maybe even contact with your children.

No more worrying if the knock on the door is police coming to arrest you.

Right now every day is a prison of your own making, your don't know who you can trust, if those you have confided in will speak out in order to release their own guilt.
You don't know if your calls and emails are being traced, if you are being watched, if people you talk to are wired.


Paranoia is no way to live a life, you are trapped in a probably loveless marriage unable to leave as if you do, you will be tossed under the bus before the door closed on you.
Custody of the twins being the prize.
We all know in messy divorces and it will be messy, anything goes and if it means losing the twins then it will be if i can't have them you can't either and first to confess wins the prize.



No normal parent would ever consider killing their children when things are fraught, their instinct is to love and protect.
IMO something clearly missing from your psyche kate that you would even consider it let alone announce it to the world.
Does your doctor know?
Are social services still monitoring you and gerry?
Is anyone listening to your cry for help as this is what it is?
Your guilt is eating you alive.
I see it everytime you appear on tv, i see it in your words.
You want to talk, you want someone, anyone to listen.
Once you find the one person who will listen to you, who won't judge you, who won't accuse you.
The someone who will say it's ok, we can work this out, let's bring this to an end, you will feel so much better and can start to heal.
All it takes is one phone call, 4 words, "i want to talk" and the relief will be immeasureable,
No more fear.
No more worry.
No more stress,
A weight lifted from your shoulders.
Once you talk you will feel so much better.
You can look Sean and Amelie right in their eyes and say "I told the truth, just like i tell you, always tell the truth"


Children can be very forgiving of their parents when they know their parents are being honest, by lying you are hurting them.
How can they ever trust you if you lied to them.
What happens when they have children?
Will they let you babysit them knowing what you did when they were young?
Could they trust you with their children when they couldn't trust you as children themselves?


The longer this charade goes on the worse you will feel, the more you will lose, the less of a life you will have.
The neverending fear, the shame, yes the shame you feel inside even though you deny it in public, the whispers behind your back, the lost friendships, the distrustful family.
In the end you will crack, your guilt eating away inside you.
Maybe you told a priest in confession thinking he cannot speak, what if that changes?
What if the priest does the right thing by Maddie, priests do break their vows you know.
Remember, it is not a secret once you tell someone else.


If you truly believe in god then you know to make things right with him you need to speak the truth and accept the consequences.
Until you do, no matter how many prayers you say, how many confessions you make, they will all count for nothing.


God does not forgive liars until they speak the truth.Remember also all the alleged sightings of Caylee Anthony all over the states when the little girl had been murder by casey on june 16th or thereabouts.

Remember also that cindy insisted Caylee was still alive and living in NY long after her body had been found and identified, long after she had been cremated and her ashed turned into jewelry worn around cindy's neck, which then begs the question, if it isn't Caylee whose remains are she and now casey wearing round their necks?

Cindy apparantly didn't see the incongruousness of this, the sightings also diverted attention from casey being the murderer, she is a murderer it is a shame the pinellas 12 were too dumb or too money grabbing to actually behave like a proper jury.

I see the same pattern with the gruesome twosome and the 7 dwarves, keep promoting the sightings, ignore anything that might conceivably point to their alleged involvement, sightings mean donations, which contradicts their spurious claims that Goncalo, Pat and Tony by denying their alleged version of events are harming and hindering the search whilst kate not answering 48 questions isn't considered as hindering even though she herself admitted it was.

Their behavior is unexpected as are their words,
Kate herself has told us several times IMO Madeleine is dead, as revealed by statement analysis, darn that word ALL, darn her telling us Maddie haunts her ( live people can't haunt you, dead people can) and introducing the word murder in the process of free editing whilst claiming she is alive and not suffering serious harm.
By the way, What is your definition of serious harm if alleged abduction by an alleged paedophile isn't classed as serious harm?


Writing the book was a seriously dumb idea IMO, since you are now committed by your own words to a timeline and story.
It will be compared to the rogs and all those little discrepencies will be revealed.
Claiming it wasn't what you meant won't work since they are your own words spoken and written in the process of free editing, and if you try to change them to correct one discrepancy you reveal several others.
Arrests will be made and your own words used against you and as revealed in the files it is suggested thatyou will be charged with homicide, concealment of a corpse and filing a false report.
Then in the UK you will more than likely be charged with perjury, obtaining money and services by deception, child neglect ( lying to your children and claiming a bad man took Maddie is emotional abuse)


The only reason you escaped child neglect charges in Portugal was the fact they couldn't charge you with homicide, concealment of a corpse and filing a false police report if they did regardless of the verdict, double jeopardy and all that.
Something i assume you were made aware of pretty darn quick and thus necessitated a speedy escape from Portugal and the hiring of extradition lawyers.
Imagine, all the money you received in the fund will have to be paid back or it is likley charges may result and all the monies you got from the media as compensation will also need to be paid back plus interest, lance armstong will give an idea of the finacial penaltiesincurred and also of the possible charges, perjury remember carries a life sentence..
You would lose your licences to practice and thus your livelihood, your reputation is down the drain, further than it is at the moment, all the bills for lawyers etc will have to be paid out your own pockets.
Bankrupt, homeless, shamed, reviled, not, i suspect something your saw in your future the day you qualified.
You will IMO lose custody of your children, you may even never see them again if they are fostered out to non family members due to the suggested risk of possible emotional harm to them from your families and from the indicated threat of physical harm from yourself.
The old If you can't have them no one can scenario.
You have told us you are a danger to them when you said you wanted to press a button and you would all be togeather, you would all be gone
If Maddie were alive you would have just made her an orphan.
Those few words in IMO and according to the rules of Statement Analysis tells me all i need to know.
The brain will always seek out ways to speak the truth and ease the pain, even when you are trying to deny it.
Murder-suicide it is called.
Aren't your families worried that you have told the world you are, IMO, willing to murder your two remaining children and then suiciding?
They should be.
All too often in such cases of child murder by a family member they telegraph their threats and promises and no one pays attention until it is too late.
The fear of losing their child to the other parent, maybe a family member or to child protection services is too much and the deed is done.
You see, killing the first time is the hardest, you have to break the taboo, it is a huge taboo thou shalt not kill.
Once you have killed, the second time becomes easier and so on, there are no taboos to be broken, you have crossed the line.
This is seen all to often in multiple murders.
Perhaps you viewed it not as a threat of murder, rather an act of kindness so they wouldn't have to lives their lives carrying the shame of their parents deeds?
Perhaps you think it is a kindness, they wouldn't suffer the pain of losing a parent or the pain of learning the truth.
They are growing up.
They will surf the net.
They will see all the forums and blogs.
They will read the excuses.
They will read the lies.
They will ask all those awkward questions you don't want to answer.
They will read the book and ask why you thought it was ok to leave them alone every night.
They will ask why you never searched.
They will ask why you refused to co-operate in finding their sister.
The never ending questions.
The doubt in their eyes as you tell them to always tell the truth whilst they see that you didn't.


The problem with committing a crime is once it is done it cannot be undone.
You cannot bring the dead back to life if they have been dead too long.
Bodies have a way of being discovered and there is no statute of limitation on murder.
DNA is the bugbear of every criminal, you take something with you (cadaverine, fluids) and leave something of yours behind, a single skin cell or hairtag is enough to prove guilt.


Even you as a doctor cannot forensically clean an alleged dump site or a body.
You learned this the hard way when the dogs found body fluids and cadaverine in the apartment, on your clothes, on cuddlecat and the hire car.


Did you forget how well trained dogs are?
Did you forget how sensitive their noses are? sensitive enough for drugs, bodies both live and dead, cash, explosives, even fruit and veg.


Evidence suggests efforts to clean the apartment and a pretty good job was done, except it was cleaned it too much, evidence that should have been there wasn't.
Always a tell tale sign.
Police and forensics look not only for what is there that shouldn't be, also what isn't there that should be.


Surely it is better to tell the truth now, admit truthfully what was done by whom, do the time and have some chance of a life and maybe even contact with your children.

No more worrying if the knock on the door is police coming to arrest you.

Right now every day is a prison of your own making, your don't know who you can trust, if those you have confided in will speak out in order to release their own guilt.
You don't know if your calls and emails are being traced, if you are being watched, if people you talk to are wired.


Paranoia is no way to live a life, you are trapped in a probably loveless marriage unable to leave as if you do, you will be tossed under the bus before the door closed on you.
Custody of the twins being the prize.
We all know in messy divorces and it will be messy, anything goes and if it means losing the twins then it will be if i can't have them you can't either and first to confess wins the prize.



No normal parent would ever consider killing their children when things are fraught, their instinct is to love and protect.
IMO something clearly missing from your psyche kate that you would even consider it let alone announce it to the world.
Does your doctor know?
Are social services still monitoring you and gerry?
Is anyone listening to your cry for help as this is what it is?
Your guilt is eating you alive.
I see it everytime you appear on tv, i see it in your words.
You want to talk, you want someone, anyone to listen.
Once you find the one person who will listen to you, who won't judge you, who won't accuse you.
The someone who will say it's ok, we can work this out, let's bring this to an end, you will feel so much better and can start to heal.
All it takes is one phone call, 4 words, "i want to talk" and the relief will be immeasureable,
No more fear.
No more worry.
No more stress,
A weight lifted from your shoulders.
Once you talk you will feel so much better.
You can look Sean and Amelie right in their eyes and say "I told the truth, just like i tell you, always tell the truth"


Children can be very forgiving of their parents when they know their parents are being honest, by lying you are hurting them.
How can they ever trust you if you lied to them.
What happens when they have children?
Will they let you babysit them knowing what you did when they were young?
Could they trust you with their children when they couldn't trust you as children themselves?


The longer this charade goes on the worse you will feel, the more you will lose, the less of a life you will have.
The neverending fear, the shame, yes the shame you feel inside even though you deny it in public, the whispers behind your back, the lost friendships, the distrustful family.
In the end you will crack, your guilt eating away inside you.
Maybe you told a priest in confession thinking he cannot speak, what if that changes?
What if the priest does the right thing by Maddie, priests do break their vows you know.
Remember, it is not a secret once you tell someone else.


If you truly believe in god then you know to make things right with him you need to speak the truth and accept the consequences.
Until you do, no matter how many prayers you say, how many confessions you make, they will all count for nothing.


God does not forgive liars until they speak the truth.

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Re: Another sighting - Cyprus

Post by Guest on Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:53 am

The silly story has reached The Express.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/383133/Calls-to-DNA-test-Madeleine-McCann-in-Cyprus

We can always rely on James Murray for a good yarn!

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Re: Another sighting - Cyprus

Post by aquila on Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:42 am

@tigger wrote:
@aquila wrote:It'll be Turkey next.

Somehow I knew that! But this time it will be highly detailed with names and addresses given plus some snaps.

I don't happen to believe the Fund makes much money from selling 'good quality' merchandise. If you look at the accounts there isn't much income shown from product sales. The products are there for other reasons imo. It's all about 'the campaign to raise awareness' - which can also keep 'the hearts and minds' of the great British public feeling sympathy for the McCanns and going along with their version of events.

Now this is just a little theory of mine but what better way to 'raise awareness' than to have a sighting in a Med country in the forthcoming holiday season for Brits. It doesn't take a scientist to have a look at holiday trends to see where the average Brit on a package holiday is going this year. Brits love to read newspapers on holiday - especially the tabloids. The Daily Mail is printed in Cyprus and distributed to Greece iirc.

My wild stab at the next sighting being in Turkey isn't so wild really.

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Re: Another sighting - Cyprus

Post by Guest on Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:02 am

Pat Brown on Facebook: "I think everyone in the world with a blonde
daughter should send her name and address to Scotland Yard along with a
Q-Tip with her saliva on it. Maybe then this nonsense will stop."

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Post by aiyoyo on Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:26 am

Cypriot police chief Paris Paraskeva said it is unlikely the girl is Madeleine but the simple check should be done just in case.

Today the Sunday Express can disclose the mysterious circumstances which triggered the ­inquiry, now involving Scotland Yard detectives reviewing the Maddie files.

In October last year a British couple and three children, the Madeleine lookalike and two boys aged two and seven, rented an apartment in Ayia Napa, a place popular with British tourists on the south-eastern tip of Cyprus.

I think the girl living next door to me was Madeleine McCann.
A Greek Cypriot tipster
The family rented the property from a British man and appeared to settle in well, enrolling the girl in a junior school. All was well ­until February, when the couple suddenly ­decided to leave.

After they left the supervisor of the property noticed some items were missing, including a kettle, and told the owner, who made a complaint to local police.

They issued an arrest warrant for the couple and alerted airports and ports. The day before the arrest warrant was issued, February 7, it appears the family flew to Britain.

Then, quite separately, on February 20 a man who had been ­living next to the family in Ayia Napa read a magazine article about Madeleine, who was snatched from an apartment in the Algarve in Portugal in May 2007, aged three.

The Greek Cypriot man thought a picture with the article showing how Madeleine would look now looked remarkably like the girl who had been his neighbour.

He begged police to investigate, telling officers: “I think the girl living next door to me was Madeleine McCann.”

Inspector Paraskeva told the Sunday Express: “We took the ­report very seriously and then realised the address was the same as for the couple we were looking for. It was quite a ­coincidence.

“I asked my officers to do checks with schools to see if the girl was registered anywhere and we were lucky because she had been at a school in Ayia Napa. We got a photograph of the girl and her birth certificate which showed she was 12, several years older than Madeleine would be now.

“We knew the family had left the island, so we informed Interpol and I sent them the picture of the girl and her birth certificate.

“I had the name of the girl and an address where the family were staying in England and that has all been given to Interpol, so I ­assume that the police in England will have checked it out.

“They have not contacted me back, so I do not know what is happening.

“We also showed the picture of the girl to the Greek Cypriot man and he confirmed it was the child who had been living next door. When he compared the picture with the one in the magazine he was not so sure it was definitely Madeleine but we all felt it was still worth investigating.

“If the couple had been on the island and we had arrested them and then received this report, we would have asked the girl to provide a DNA sample for testing. We have the DNA profile of Madeleine so we could have done it quite quickly. I would think that Interpol or British police would do this when they speak to the family just to rule it out.”

Last week Scotland Yard said it would not give a “running commentary” on the lines of ­inquiry in the Operation Grange investigative review of all known ­evidence relating to Madeleine’s disappearance.

So let's get this right.
The supervisor of the property was so anxious and panicky for the lost kettle, he immediately assumed "it" was abducted, and thus he lodged a police report and a warrant was issued immediately to arrest the couple.on sight at airports and ports.
This is more than Maddie's parents did for her. Maddie's parents did not panic on finding her gone - they called friends and News station in UK first before sending a third party ie a friend (Russell?) to ask the reception to call the Police. Maybe the Supervisor had assumed a paedo had taken the kettle hence the panic and quick reaction.

Had they called the Police immediately maybe JT's eggman wouldn't have made it back to the liar in the lawless village.


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Re: Another sighting - Cyprus

Post by plebgate on Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:08 pm

Well said Pat Brown on facebook. Thanks for that chatelaine.

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Post by ShuBob on Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:12 pm

Châtelaine wrote:Pat Brown on Facebook: "I think everyone in the world with a blonde
daughter should send her name and address to Scotland Yard along with a
Q-Tip with her saliva on it. Maybe then this nonsense will stop."

It's not just blonde girls though who should be worried about being mistaken for Maddie. The McCanns saw to that by commissioning a photo-fit of a dark-skinned girl with dark hair. No three to ten year old girl OR boy is safe

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Re: Another sighting - Cyprus

Post by tigger on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:21 pm

@aiyoyo wrote:
Cypriot police chief Paris Paraskeva said it is unlikely the girl is Madeleine but the simple check should be done just in case.

Today the Sunday Express can disclose the mysterious circumstances which triggered the ­inquiry, now involving Scotland Yard detectives reviewing the Maddie files.

In October last year a British couple and three children, the Madeleine lookalike and two boys aged two and seven, rented an apartment in Ayia Napa, a place popular with British tourists on the south-eastern tip of Cyprus.

I think the girl living next door to me was Madeleine McCann.
A Greek Cypriot tipster
The family rented the property from a British man and appeared to settle in well, enrolling the girl in a junior school. All was well ­until February, when the couple suddenly ­decided to leave.

After they left the supervisor of the property noticed some items were missing, including a kettle, and told the owner, who made a complaint to local police.

They issued an arrest warrant for the couple and alerted airports and ports. The day before the arrest warrant was issued, February 7, it appears the family flew to Britain.

Then, quite separately, on February 20 a man who had been ­living next to the family in Ayia Napa read a magazine article about Madeleine, who was snatched from an apartment in the Algarve in Portugal in May 2007, aged three.

The Greek Cypriot man thought a picture with the article showing how Madeleine would look now looked remarkably like the girl who had been his neighbour.

He begged police to investigate, telling officers: “I think the girl living next door to me was Madeleine McCann.”

Inspector Paraskeva told the Sunday Express: “We took the ­report very seriously and then realised the address was the same as for the couple we were looking for. It was quite a ­coincidence.

“I asked my officers to do checks with schools to see if the girl was registered anywhere and we were lucky because she had been at a school in Ayia Napa. We got a photograph of the girl and her birth certificate which showed she was 12, several years older than Madeleine would be now.

“We knew the family had left the island, so we informed Interpol and I sent them the picture of the girl and her birth certificate.

“I had the name of the girl and an address where the family were staying in England and that has all been given to Interpol, so I ­assume that the police in England will have checked it out.

“They have not contacted me back, so I do not know what is happening.

“We also showed the picture of the girl to the Greek Cypriot man and he confirmed it was the child who had been living next door. When he compared the picture with the one in the magazine he was not so sure it was definitely Madeleine but we all felt it was still worth investigating.

“If the couple had been on the island and we had arrested them and then received this report, we would have asked the girl to provide a DNA sample for testing. We have the DNA profile of Madeleine so we could have done it quite quickly. I would think that Interpol or British police would do this when they speak to the family just to rule it out.”

Last week Scotland Yard said it would not give a “running commentary” on the lines of ­inquiry in the Operation Grange investigative review of all known ­evidence relating to Madeleine’s disappearance.

So let's get this right.
The supervisor of the property was so anxious and panicky for the lost kettle, he immediately assumed "it" was abducted, and thus he lodged a police report and a warrant was issued immediately to arrest the couple.on sight at airports and ports.
This is more than Maddie's parents did for her. Maddie's parents did not panic on finding her gone - they called friends and News station in UK first before sending a third party ie a friend (Russell?) to ask the reception to call the Police. Maybe the Supervisor had assumed a paedo had taken the kettle hence the panic and quick reaction.

Had they called the Police immediately maybe JT's eggman wouldn't have made it back to the liar in the lawless village.


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Post by Snifferdog on Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:14 pm

Yes that is an excellent post Aiyoyo, so telling so true!

Last week Scotland Yard said it would not give a
“running commentary” on the lines of ­inquiry in the Operation Grange
investigative review of all known ­evidence relating to Madeleine’s
disappearance.

Oer...Unbelievable! Surely Scotland Yard are now investigating and getting to the actual SourcE of these so called Maddy "sightings"??? This would help their review surely?

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Post by aiyoyo on Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:16 am

@Snifferdog wrote: Yes that is an excellent post Aiyoyo, so telling so true!

Last week Scotland Yard said it would not give a
“running commentary” on the lines of ­inquiry in the Operation Grange
investigative review of all known ­evidence relating to Madeleine’s
disappearance.

Oer...Unbelievable! Surely Scotland Yard are now investigating and getting to the actual SourcE of these so called Maddy "sightings"??? This would help their review surely?

But their Head of Op Grange did come out and announce Maddie could be alive or sadly dead, and it was a crime of abduction by a stranger.

Today the Sunday Express can disclose the mysterious circumstances which triggered the inquiry, now involving Scotland Yard detectives reviewing the Maddie files.

I dont see any mysterious circumstances that triggered this inquiry, unless SE is alluding to the missing kettle taken by a stranger, and the couple-tenants were not involved and had nothing to do with the complete mystery of the missing kettle.

If the SE is to be believed that SY is involved in this sighting inquiry, is Redwood going to come up with an age-progression pic of the missing kettle (done in cooperation with the supervisor) while proclaiming it was taken by a stranger, and that the kettle may be functional, or sadly it may not be.

Its hilarious just to conjure up image of Interpol including SY on alert looking for a swarthy- thirsty-man dragging around an "Aldi" no-brand made in china kettle (the cheap type that owner furnished apt with); and anyone sighted with an Aldi kettle will be arrested on sight.

How dumb is that to include a petty thieve incident with a sighting of missing Madeleine? How does the newspapers get a hold of this drivel is mind boggling.





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Post by Trainer on Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:04 am

Would Scotland yard be interested in these sightings just to see if there was any link back to team m?
Inseam to remember way back that someone posted that most of the initial sightings had links to team m

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Post by aiyoyo on Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:28 am

Op Grange has a full plate they cant even work quick enough through the files.
If they have any ounce of common sense they wont waste their time dipping their hands into these pseudo sightings just to prove whether it links back to the Mccanns. IMV, they dont have to prove that, if they've on the evidence of the files taken the view there is no abduction.

What would be more urgent for them to do is to investigate into mccanns dodgy pte detectives outfit as in the set up, and operations (if any).
If that proves bogus, then all these nonsense about their PIs chasing/investigating leads, and their so-claimed search for maddie is a scam, and fraud is a crime. If proven that the PI is a only a shell for show purpose, then the inevitable question of why would have to be answered.
Since dodgy PIs is linked to the Fund, the question has to be answered why the Fund made up predominantly of public donations is used for a series of worst PIs when the mccanns showed perfect functioning mental sharpness and shrewdness in hiring the best lawyers.

If proven the fund is fraudalent from the get go, then without a shadow of doubt no abduction took place.

So where is Maddie? What really happened to her?




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Post by Snifferdog on Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:37 am

Aiyoyo said: I dont see
any mysterious circumstances that triggered this inquiry, unless SE is
alluding to the missing kettle taken by a stranger, and the
couple-tenants were not involved and had nothing to do with the complete
mystery of the missing kettle.

If the SE is to be believed that
SY is involved in this sighting inquiry, is Redwood going to come up
with an age-progression pic of the missing kettle (done in cooperation
with the supervisor) while proclaiming it was taken by a stranger, and
that the kettle may be functional, or sadly it may not be.

Its
hilarious just to conjure up image of Interpol including SY on alert
looking for a swarthy- thirsty-man dragging around an "Aldi" no-brand
made in china kettle (the cheap type that owner furnished apt with); and
anyone sighted with an Aldi kettle will be arrested on sight.

How
dumb is that to include a petty thieve incident with a sighting of
missing Madeleine?
How does the newspapers get a hold of this drivel is
mind boggling.

Snifferdog said: IMO It stems from the same kinda dark place where The Bewk hails from






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Post by Newintown on Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:48 pm

@aiyoyo wrote:Op Grange has a full plate they cant even work quick enough through the files.
If they have any ounce of common sense they wont waste their time dipping their hands into these pseudo sightings just to prove whether it links back to the Mccanns. IMV, they dont have to prove that, if they've on the evidence of the files taken the view there is no abduction.

What would be more urgent for them to do is to investigate into mccanns dodgy pte detectives outfit as in the set up, and operations (if any).
If that proves bogus, then all these nonsense about their PIs chasing/investigating leads, and their so-claimed search for maddie is a scam, and fraud is a crime. If proven that the PI is a only a shell for show purpose, then the inevitable question of why would have to be answered.
Since dodgy PIs is linked to the Fund, the question has to be answered why the Fund made up predominantly of public donations is used for a series of worst PIs when the mccanns showed perfect functioning mental sharpness and shrewdness in hiring the best lawyers.

If proven the fund is fraudalent from the get go, then without a shadow of doubt no abduction took place.

So where is Maddie? What really happened to her?



SY have been faffing around for almost two years and if, as they said on the Channel 4 doc, Madeleine was abducted what do they think the poor child has been putting up with whilst they chase their tails over stupid, made up sightings. The McCanns have also stopped any searching so therefore nobody seems very eager to find poor Madeleine so it seems in any urgency.

But on the other hand if SY know what happened to Madeleine but have not got any concrete proof so far could they be biding their time, going through everything with a fine-toothed comb, not leaving any stone unturned, so they don't miss anything that could throw out any criminal court proceedings in the future.

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Post by aiyoyo on Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:12 pm

@Newintown wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:Op Grange has a full plate they cant even work quick enough through the files.
If they have any ounce of common sense they wont waste their time dipping their hands into these pseudo sightings just to prove whether it links back to the Mccanns. IMV, they dont have to prove that, if they've on the evidence of the files taken the view there is no abduction.

What would be more urgent for them to do is to investigate into mccanns dodgy pte detectives outfit as in the set up, and operations (if any).
If that proves bogus, then all these nonsense about their PIs chasing/investigating leads, and their so-claimed search for maddie is a scam, and fraud is a crime. If proven that the PI is a only a shell for show purpose, then the inevitable question of why would have to be answered.
Since dodgy PIs is linked to the Fund, the question has to be answered why the Fund made up predominantly of public donations is used for a series of worst PIs when the mccanns showed perfect functioning mental sharpness and shrewdness in hiring the best lawyers.

If proven the fund is fraudalent from the get go, then without a shadow of doubt no abduction took place.

So where is Maddie? What really happened to her?



SY have been faffing around for almost two years and if, as they said on the Channel 4 doc, Madeleine was abducted what do they think the poor child has been putting up with whilst they chase their tails over stupid, made up sightings. The McCanns have also stopped any searching so therefore nobody seems very eager to find poor Madeleine so it seems in any urgency.

But on the other hand if SY know what happened to Madeleine but have not got any concrete proof so far could they be biding their time, going through everything with a fine-toothed comb, not leaving any stone unturned, so they don't miss anything that could throw out any criminal court proceedings in the future.

Op Grange is probably studying M3 files and still chasing up the 195 fresh leads plus a few more recently reported - that's what the Mccanns would want people to believe. Meanwhile, they've suspended their PIs leaving Maddie to her fate with the captor...incredible isn't it?

Maddie can wait while her mama runs for Charity.....this me me me....look at how great I am.
Remind me which vile person used to run for Charities, and hide behind charities for his crimes against children, and got knighted for it ......

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Post by Miraflores on Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:06 pm

These sightings are such tosh. Slow news day? Make up a story about a Madeleine McCann sighting, put a picture of said toddler on the front page, sell newspapers. Pity Princess Di was killed, or it would have been her instead.

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ANORAK: Interpol seek Russell Hobbs and Morphy Richards.

Post by russiandoll on Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:06 pm

DO you know Russell Hobbs? What about Morphy Richards? Following news
of a family of kettle thieve in Cyprus, who was accompanied by a child
the victim claims looked like Madeleine McCann, the Express announces:

Calls to DNA test ‘Madeleine McCann’ in Cyprus

A BRITISH girl who sparked an inquiry in Cyprus because she looks like Madeleine McCann should be DNA tested, police say.
Only, she “fled” with the alleged crooks.

Cypriot police chief Paris Paraskeva said it is unlikely the girl is Madeleine but the simple check should be done just in case.
What is this simple check?

Today the Sunday Express can disclose the mysterious
circumstances which triggered the ­inquiry, now involving Scotland Yard
detectives reviewing the Maddie files.

Just as we disclosed them last week:

In October last year a British couple and three
children, the Madeleine lookalike and two boys aged two and seven,
rented an apartment in Ayia Napa, a place popular with British tourists
on the south-eastern tip of Cyprus.

Then they left.

After they left the supervisor of the property
noticed some items were missing, including a kettle, and told the owner,
who made a complaint to local police.

The police didn’t take it all that seriously. Then the alleged victim recalled that the child in this runners looked like Lord Lucan, Shergar Madeleine McCann. So:

They issued an arrest warrant for the couple and
alerted airports and ports. The day before the arrest warrant was
issued, February 7, it appears the family flew to Britain.

Got that? The family with the most wanted child on the planet “fled” to…Britain.

Then another man claimed he spotted Our Maddie with the kettle bandits:

The Greek Cypriot man thought a picture with the
article showing how Madeleine would look now looked remarkably like the
girl who had been his neighbour. He begged police to investigate,
telling officers: “I think the girl living next door to me was Madeleine
McCann.”

So. The man who owns the house who allegedly got ripped off by the
rent-dodgers says the child was Madeleine McCann. And the next-door
neighbour – who might know that hard-done-by owner – says he knew it was
her, too.

Call the cops!

Inspector Paraskeva told the Sunday Express: “We took
the ­report very seriously and then realised the address was the same
as for the couple we were looking for. It was quite a ­coincidence.”

No ****, Sherlock.

“I asked my officers to do checks with schools to see
if the girl was registered anywhere and we were lucky because she had
been at a school in Ayia Napa. We got a photograph of the girl and her
birth certificate which showed she was 12, several years older than
Madeleine would be now.”

And..?

“We knew the family had left the island, so we
informed Interpol and I sent them the picture of the girl and her birth
certificate.”

You called Interpol about a family that hadn’t paid a bill? A family who nicked a kettle?

Interpol! Under ‘Crime Areas” in the Interpol website, we could find no section for Kettle Bandits. We did find a spot about “FUGITIVES“:

One of our most powerful tools in tracking
international fugitives is the Red Notice. This seeks the provisional
arrest of a wanted person with a view to extradition and is circulated
to police in all our member countries. Red notices contain
identification details and judicial information about the wanted person.

What about “TRAFFICKING IN ILLICIT goods”?

Trafficking in illicit goods, is a generic term used
by INTERPOL to describe all types of illicit trade. It includes such
practices as counterfeiting (trademark infringements), piracy (copyright
infringements), smuggling of legitimate products and tax evasion.
Selling fake or counterfeit products as the real thing is one aspect of
this crime; so is selling genuine goods on the black market to avoid
paying taxes.

No kettles mentioned. Indeed, a Red Notice was not issued for the Kettle Bandits.

Inspector Paraskeva adds:

“I had the name of the girl and an address where the
family were staying in England and that has all been given to Interpol,
so I ­assume that the police in England will have checked it out. They
have not contacted me back, so I do not know what is happening.”

Chances are it’s gone to the very top.

“We also showed the picture of the girl to the Greek
Cypriot man and he confirmed it was the child who had been living next
door. When he compared the picture with the one in the magazine he was
not so sure it was definitely Madeleine but we all felt it was still
worth investigating.”

Good for him.

“If the couple had been on the island and we had
arrested them and then received this report, we would have asked the
girl to provide a DNA sample for testing. We have the DNA profile of
Madeleine so we could have done it quite quickly. I would think that
Interpol or British police would do this when they speak to the family
just to rule it out.”

Hold on a moment. The adults are accused of doing a runner and nicking kettle who you will swab an innocent child? Run! And God Speed…

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:12 pm

Miraflores, it would be interesting to compare the sheer volume of press coverage given to Princess Diana and to the McCann case.

I wouldn't be surprised if Madeleine has overtaken Diana in her ability to sell newspapers; it only needs a photo, it doesn't matter how barking mad the accompanying story is.

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Post by Nina on Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:44 pm

Jean wrote:Miraflores, it would be interesting to compare the sheer volume of press coverage given to Princess Diana and to the McCann case.

I wouldn't be surprised if Madeleine has overtaken Diana in her ability to sell newspapers; it only needs a photo, it doesn't matter how barking mad the accompanying story is.

They will sell a lot more if prisoner prisoner

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Post by PeterMac on Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:01 pm

They didn't fly back to the IK. They took her back to Edgar's famous "Hellish Lair".
She was only signed out for six months, you see.

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:12 pm

@russiandoll wrote:DO you know Russell Hobbs? What about Morphy Richards? Following news
of a family of kettle thieve in Cyprus, who was accompanied by a child
the victim claims looked like Madeleine McCann, the Express announces:

Calls to DNA test ‘Madeleine McCann’ in Cyprus

A BRITISH girl who sparked an inquiry in Cyprus because she looks like Madeleine McCann should be DNA tested, police say.
Only, she “fled” with the alleged crooks.

Cypriot police chief Paris Paraskeva said it is unlikely the girl is Madeleine but the simple check should be done just in case.
What is this simple check?

Today the Sunday Express can disclose the mysterious
circumstances which triggered the ­inquiry, now involving Scotland Yard
detectives reviewing the Maddie files.

Just as we disclosed them last week:

In October last year a British couple and three
children, the Madeleine lookalike and two boys aged two and seven,
rented an apartment in Ayia Napa, a place popular with British tourists
on the south-eastern tip of Cyprus.

Then they left.

After they left the supervisor of the property
noticed some items were missing, including a kettle, and told the owner,
who made a complaint to local police.

The police didn’t take it all that seriously. Then the alleged victim recalled that the child in this runners looked like Lord Lucan, Shergar Madeleine McCann. So:

They issued an arrest warrant for the couple and
alerted airports and ports. The day before the arrest warrant was
issued, February 7, it appears the family flew to Britain.

Got that? The family with the most wanted child on the planet “fled” to…Britain.

Then another man claimed he spotted Our Maddie with the kettle bandits:

The Greek Cypriot man thought a picture with the
article showing how Madeleine would look now looked remarkably like the
girl who had been his neighbour. He begged police to investigate,
telling officers: “I think the girl living next door to me was Madeleine
McCann.”

So. The man who owns the house who allegedly got ripped off by the
rent-dodgers says the child was Madeleine McCann. And the next-door
neighbour – who might know that hard-done-by owner – says he knew it was
her, too.

Call the cops!

Inspector Paraskeva told the Sunday Express: “We took
the ­report very seriously and then realised the address was the same
as for the couple we were looking for. It was quite a ­coincidence.”

No ****, Sherlock.

“I asked my officers to do checks with schools to see
if the girl was registered anywhere and we were lucky because she had
been at a school in Ayia Napa. We got a photograph of the girl and her
birth certificate which showed she was 12, several years older than
Madeleine would be now.”

And..?

“We knew the family had left the island, so we
informed Interpol and I sent them the picture of the girl and her birth
certificate.”

You called Interpol about a family that hadn’t paid a bill? A family who nicked a kettle?

Interpol! Under ‘Crime Areas” in the Interpol website, we could find no section for Kettle Bandits. We did find a spot about “FUGITIVES“:

One of our most powerful tools in tracking
international fugitives is the Red Notice. This seeks the provisional
arrest of a wanted person with a view to extradition and is circulated
to police in all our member countries. Red notices contain
identification details and judicial information about the wanted person.

What about “TRAFFICKING IN ILLICIT goods”?

Trafficking in illicit goods, is a generic term used
by INTERPOL to describe all types of illicit trade. It includes such
practices as counterfeiting (trademark infringements), piracy (copyright
infringements), smuggling of legitimate products and tax evasion.
Selling fake or counterfeit products as the real thing is one aspect of
this crime; so is selling genuine goods on the black market to avoid
paying taxes.

No kettles mentioned. Indeed, a Red Notice was not issued for the Kettle Bandits.

Inspector Paraskeva adds:

“I had the name of the girl and an address where the
family were staying in England and that has all been given to Interpol,
so I ­assume that the police in England will have checked it out. They
have not contacted me back, so I do not know what is happening.”

Chances are it’s gone to the very top.

“We also showed the picture of the girl to the Greek
Cypriot man and he confirmed it was the child who had been living next
door. When he compared the picture with the one in the magazine he was
not so sure it was definitely Madeleine but we all felt it was still
worth investigating.”

Good for him.

“If the couple had been on the island and we had
arrested them and then received this report, we would have asked the
girl to provide a DNA sample for testing. We have the DNA profile of
Madeleine so we could have done it quite quickly. I would think that
Interpol or British police would do this when they speak to the family
just to rule it out.”

Hold on a moment. The adults are accused of doing a runner and nicking kettle who you will swab an innocent child? Run! And God Speed…

Hello RD,

You didn't miss much, only:

(last par.) "We have the DNA profile of Madeleine so we could have done it quite quickly"

Odd, that, isn't it?

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Post by Guest on Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:47 pm

We can file this one away in the closed crackpot stories now.

http://www.incyprus.com.cy/en-gb/Top-Stories-News/4342/33514/girl-was-not-maddie

NEXT!

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Post by PeterMac on Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:55 pm

Jean wrote:
NEXT!
Clarence will release the next one when we get news about the Gonçalo libel trial.
He is hard at work with his atlas, and back numbers of tabloids.

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Post by jd on Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:10 pm

@PeterMac wrote:
Jean wrote:
NEXT!
Clarence will release the next one when we get news about the Gonçalo libel trial.
He is hard at work with his atlas, and back numbers of tabloids.

As a reporter, Mitchell says he was ‘always seen as a fireman’, and would be flown in ‘when there was trouble kicking off in Northern Ireland’, or in other dangerous locations such as Iran and Iraq. He also covered the death of Princess Diana, the murder of Milly Dowler and the Fred and Rosemary West mass-murders.

Mitchell was first sent to meet Gerry McCann at East Midlands airport two weeks after Madeleine’s disappearance. The pair flew back together to Portugal. Mitchell then spent an intense month of 15-hour days with the family.

He had to return to his government role, and others handled the McCanns’ PR. But even then, he says, the family still called him for advice in his own time. ‘We had bec­ome friends,’ he says. ‘But I couldn’t help them beyond the odd phone call, bec­ause officially the Government couldn’t be seen to be involved.’

http://www.brandrepublic.com/Features/769746/PROFILE-Clarence-Mitchell-spokesman-McCann-family/


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