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Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

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Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by Zozo on 30.07.12 2:32

The more i read and analyses the Madeleine case, the more i find that so called check up on children questionable.

I find it hard believable for two well educated parents both doctors, can go on
Holiday with their 3 children and during the whole holiday stay they seems not
really interesting to stay longer with their children.

From day one until the disappearance of Madeleine, in the morning their bring the children at creche to be taken back for lunch and brought them back in the creche for
the afternoon. Evening time their put them on the bed and their go out for
dinner, left the children in unlocked apartment supposedly checking on them
time to time. This is supposedly was the routine of their stay in every day of
their holiday before the disappearance of Madeleine.

This routine may have well happened but, intentionally fabricated to create a stragety of “Look here not there”, which btw the Mccanns have successful using it in misleading the Police investigation. This causes the delay to focus on the Mccanns, the police being misled by the Mccanns, also the public compassion to the Mccanns.

How on earth the loving parents both doctor could show such behaviour not interested in enjoying the holiday with their children? Maybe in case if those children well
not desired at all or conceived by accident.

Of course to bring your children in creche while you are on holiday, its totally normal,
for a day or 2 when you want to have your time with your friends or partner. But
left them in creche every single day morning and afternoon of your holiday. There is something wrong here.

That is why I find that theory of Kirkoraton of Madeleine died earlier on in holiday more believable, therefore creche records being manipulated as it
has been debated and shown on some other thread here.

All of this lead me to think there were a well orchestrated plan of how to control and
influence the investigation before announcement of the disappearance. The same
way it has been claimed by Dr Christian Ludke criminal psychologist, saying that,
things which has happened to Madeleine
may have been planned before by the Mccanns themselves.

Orchestrated plan to influence the investigation and discredit the PJ investigation, can be seen very well when you read statements from witnesses and the PJ/GNR who
attended the scene after the announcement of the disappearance. All of this
statements can be read on this links: PJ timeline of 03-04/05/2007.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id121.html
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id229.html

Some
witnesses testifies of the night of 03-04 may, how the Mccanns were just busy
talking on the phone probably with the relatives in UK, but not bothering searching
where is their daughter. One witness says how Gerry on the phone was just
saying that they are alone, police doing nothing, no one is helping them while
there were already a big number of the
public helping the search and some members of the PJ was there already. In the
same night, Gerry called a friend in UK complaining that no one is helping
them, and it happened that person he was talking to has a friend who lives in pria
da luz. That friend of Gerry in UK called his friend In Pria da luz asking him
to check on Gerry if he can help. But when he called Gerry offering help, Gerry
told him that he is alright he doesn’t need help. How strange is that!!!!!!!

Something strange in statements of some witnesses who attended the scene after the announcement, is that the alert made by Kate for
the disappearance was not at 10:00pm but before that time, probably 10 to 15
minutes or even more before that time.

Another thing which is strange, is that the first call was made to the police at
10:40pm.

Why it has taken so long to call the police, while 15 to 20 minutes was enough to realize the disappearance and call the police? If
really the alert has been done before 10pm, this will take at least 50 minutes
to call the police(Almost an hour). Very strange!!

After the police have been alerted, they arrived a few minutes later to be surprised that the Mccanns have already printed out the pictures of Madeleine.
How coincidence is that they have pictures of Madeleine ready to be printed
straight away?

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Re: Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by Zozo on 30.07.12 4:44

You can read on Kikoratton tweeter on this link. Its a public account, no need to sign in or register.

https://twitter.com/kikoratton

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Re: Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by Zozo on 30.07.12 5:32

@Zozo wrote:You can read on Kikoratton tweeter on this link. Its a public account, no need to sign in or register.

https://twitter.com/kikoratton

I strongly suspect that, Kikoratton must have been an acquaintance or a close friend or connected in some ways to the Mccans sometimes ago and then they fall out. In the same way there is some suspicion that Murat and Jane Tanner may have been friends before and later they fall out. Which makes even more suspicion that there was a DNA of Murat and Jane tanner found in a same apartment in Pria da luz.

For Kikoratton, imo he could be someone who has some insider information, which requires to be a close friend or to have someone who's close to the Mccanns or on the other side he could be someone who is seeking fame, like we have seen many in MBM case. But the later i think is less probable.

Some questions can be asked:
Why the Mccanns have not made any attempt to bring him in court because of his very damaging claims he is trying to pass through his tweeter account and which he said he has submitted to the police the whole documents proving his claims, while they are attacking those who have made even lesser damage claims to them?

That is the same as why Murat who said that he will bring JT in court and now he seems to have abandoned that?

Only it seems that Murat and the Mccanns/JT have reached a secret peace agreement through their lawyers with kennedy, but the war seems still on between The Mccanns and Kikoratton.

more and more strange things surrounding the MBM case.

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Re: Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by tigger on 30.07.12 6:29

@Zozo wrote:
@Zozo wrote:You can read on Kikoratton tweeter on this link. Its a public account, no need to sign in or register.

https://twitter.com/kikoratton

I strongly suspect that, Kikoratton must have been an acquaintance or a close friend or connected in some ways to the Mccans sometimes ago and then they fall out. In the same way there is some suspicion that Murat and Jane Tanner may have been friends before and later they fall out. Which makes even more suspicion that there was a DNA of Murat and Jane tanner found in a same apartment in Pria da luz.

For Kikoratton, imo he could be someone who has some insider information, which requires to be a close friend or to have someone who's close to the Mccanns or on the other side he could be someone who is seeking fame, like we have seen many in MBM case. But the later i think is less probable.

Some questions can be asked:
Why the Mccanns have not made any attempt to bring him in court because of his very damaging claims he is trying to pass through his tweeter account and which he said he has submitted to the police the whole documents proving his claims, while they are attacking those who have made even lesser damage claims to them?

That is the same as why Murat who said that he will bring JT in court and now he seems to have abandoned that?

Only it seems that Murat and the Mccanns/JT have reached a secret peace agreement through their lawyers with kennedy, but the war seems still on between The Mccanns and Kikoratton.

more and more strange things surrounding the MBM case.

I'm very puzzled as to how you've arrived at the answer to your own question here. You are quoting yourself and then giving an answer which isn't based on any facts.

An explanation of how you arrived at your conclusion would be in order.
The whole theory you propose here is frankly insulting, short on logic and evidence. Anyone else you can think of here who were good friends with the McCanns until they fell out?
I might have known them in Amsterdam and fallen out with them for all you know.

Anymore secret agents here who used to be friends of the McCanns? What about you?



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Re: Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by Guest on 30.07.12 9:03

Kikoraton is a member here but hasn't been seen for a while. I'm hoping that he will reappear to join in with this debate!

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Re: Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by tigger on 30.07.12 15:30

Apart from the somewhat tortuous title, which doesn't seem to relate to your posts about Kikoratton, what is the relevance of all this?

I'd really appreciate an answer to my post sometime soon.

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Post by Guest on 30.07.12 15:53

tigger, how can someone answer if they are not here and online?? Have some patience please.

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Re: Did that checking on Children happened in a good faith or it was a fabrication strategy of "Look here not there"?

Post by tigger on 30.07.12 16:00

candyfloss wrote:tigger, how can someone answer if they are not here and online?? Have some patience please.

I was under the impression that if one starts a topic you check it for answers fairly soon after you've started it.

Zozo has started this topic and even taken the trouble to quote him/herself and then answer the 'question' he/she posed.
I may be impatient but if more people posted like Zozo does the site would become unreadable - here is also a not so very veiled accusation that Kiko is acting out of spite.
So in my book Zozo is well out of order.

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Post by russiandoll on 30.07.12 17:12

As far as I know Kikoraton's knowledge is limited to his expertise as a former communications analyst for GCHQ in the UK. He is well- versed in analysis of written and verbal communication, hence his work on the creche and phone records.


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