Re: Would this account for the unprecedented high level of political support?

by Gillyspot 29.11.11 18:58

Interesting also that Lori Campell suddenly found enough money to go on a year long round the world tour with Ross Hall after the McCanns' were released from their arguido status.

by russiandoll 29.11.11 19:04

sorry if dense, absent last 2 weeks due to illness......wasn't c cat found on a bed by police, not on the ledge?

and yes it is implausible that a doctor would give her daughter a toy to cuddle that had had contact with corpses.
also implausible that a grown woman would take a child's toy to work unless bereaved and maybe had to have a remembrance close at all times.
was she arguing transferred odour from corpses when she then touched the toy after handling the bodies?
a heck of a lot of deaths attended by a part time gp in a matter of weeks.
there will be supporting docs if this was so....death certs signed by her or coroner referral forms if she was unable to certify a death herself.

by Invinoveritas 29.11.11 19:32

snippet from Daisy: When her mum Kate, 38, tucked Madeleine into bed, the four-year-old
was cuddling the toy - but it was later found placed on a ledge that
Madeleine could not have reached." end snippet

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Pictures taken in the early hours of 04/05/2007, Cuddlecat is in/on the bed wrapped in a pink blanket, Madeleine tucked up in bed? No way!

The covers would look completely different

by aiyoyo 30.11.11 3:21

When they planned their abduction tale they forgot little detail like how a bed should look like in a real situation.
They also forgot to check that shutters could not be opened from outside without waking the whole neighbourhood.

This is why there is no such thing as a perfect crime.

by Guest 08.01.12 15:00

Do you remember our friend Philip Edmonds from the Oppenhiemer family and the company Stemcor?

The nephew of Lady Margaret Hodge MP.

With thanks to Stewie, we can see that originally, according to the MW booking sheets, he was due to arrive on the 28th April.

Looking at the OC list printed on the 27th, for arrivals on the 28th, he is still down for arrival on the 28th.

But for some unknown reason, when we look at the OC lists run on the 8th May, he is now down as having arrived on the 29th.

This is the one who also left one day earlier than booked on the 4th, but the OC daily sheets do not show this. How mysterious !!!

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by **tigger** 02.03.12 14:36

From the sticky: would this account for the high level of political support?'

Stella wrote:

I think you are deliberately missing the point greenwatch.

Mr Edmonds claims to have taken photo's of his boys with Madeleine in the background. A man with 3 boys age 6, 7 and 8, would not be in the play area for toddlers.

by Guest 02.03.12 15:09

tigger wrote:From the sticky: would this account for the high level of political support?'

Stella wrote:

I think you are deliberately missing the point greenwatch.

Mr Edmonds claims to have taken photo's of his boys with Madeleine in the background. A man with 3 boys age 6, 7 and 8, would not be in the play area for toddlers.

During the discussion of where Mr Edmonds was when he took this photo, the following things was considered. The McCann's never went to breakfast. The children were all in creche groups for the under 4's. The McCann's always had lunch in their apartment. They never took the children to the tapas restaurant and allegedly they left the children in their own apartments every night. So the question after the above statement was, where could he have been when this photo was taken.

by russiandoll 02.03.12 16:12

possibly the poolside area? Kate made at least one reference to members of the tapas bunch lounging around near the tapas area of the pool ,maybe the children were there also........they took their tea- time meal there around 5 acccording to statments.

by Guest 02.03.12 16:19

Philip Edmonds and his boys, all had dinner in the tapas that night at 7pm.

by russiandoll 02.03.12 16:26

might that man not have been hanging around chatting to adults he had befriended while their younger children had the high tea? maybe his lads were having a late afternoon/ early evening swim..just thinking of possibilities.
werent the McCanns at the beach on family time one day.......... maybe he was there with his children then?

by flaxyard 16.03.12 12:50

I have just read through this whole thread and slightly off the main discussion point are the two pictures of the bedroom supposed to be the crimescene? Where are the toys, wet towels, pants, random socks, milk cups etc. Those with two or more children will no this scenario well! Its impossibly clean and tidy!!!

by Guest 30.03.12 11:48

How can we be so confident of this?

Well, it's a False Flag Child Abduction, it's clear from the excessive media attention surrounding it. The NWO have taken her away as part of a Social Engineering/Propaganda campaign to ensure we allow our children to receive microchip implants. This is why they selected Madeleine as she was from a middle-class medical family, meaning that we are all left thinking "If it could happen to them it could happen to anyone".

Children go missing all of the time, but they keep on wheeling this story back out again as there's an important agenda behind it. Expect Madeleine to be "Found" at the same time as the microchips are ready for our newborns. This is why it's so important that she is alive, as then theoretically the microchip would have enabled her to be tracked down, whereas if she was no longer alive the microchip might not have been enough to save her life.

If you're not convinced, wait and see, then you'll know!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799055/pg1

by turnaround 30.03.12 12:11

Moa wrote:How can we be so confident of this?

Well, it's a False Flag Child Abduction, it's clear from the excessive media attention surrounding it. The NWO have taken her away as part of a Social Engineering/Propaganda campaign to ensure we allow our children to receive microchip implants. This is why they selected Madeleine as she was from a middle-class medical family, meaning that we are all left thinking "If it could happen to them it could happen to anyone".

Children go missing all of the time, but they keep on wheeling this story back out again as there's an important agenda behind it. Expect Madeleine to be "Found" at the same time as the microchips are ready for our newborns. This is why it's so important that she is alive, as then theoretically the microchip would have enabled her to be tracked down, whereas if she was no longer alive the microchip might not have been enough to save her life.

If you're not convinced, wait and see, then you'll know!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799055/pg1

Actually I wouldn't put it past the PTB to come up with something so twisted. In fact I think I'm leaning this way.
They have done it for thousands of years.
Wasn't it a Roman Historian ( I forgot his name was it Tacticus?) said people in power engineer problems. Manipulate events, create a problem and wait for a reaction, then offer the solution? a solution that fits their agenda, one that has been worked out to perfection. One that we have to pay for?
Then i ask why didn't they just market little Ben Needham at the time? It would have saved madeleine,
And I am doomed to remember Roosevelt's quote...

'In politics, nothing happens by chance'

by tuom 02.04.12 23:30

flaxyard wrote:I have just read through this whole thread and slightly off the main discussion point are the two pictures of the bedroom supposed to be the crimescene? Where are the toys, wet towels, pants, random socks, milk cups etc. Those with two or more children will no this scenario well! Its impossibly clean and tidy!!!

Good point Would this account for the unprecedented high level of political support? - Page 11 259100

too much order with three kids Would this account for the unprecedented high level of political support? - Page 11 636506

by listener 03.04.12 0:10

tuom wrote:
flaxyard wrote:I have just read through this whole thread and slightly off the main discussion point are the two pictures of the bedroom supposed to be the crimescene? Where are the toys, wet towels, pants, random socks, milk cups etc. Those with two or more children will no this scenario well! Its impossibly clean and tidy!!!

Good point too much order with three kids

FAR too much order for a family of five - (in a wee appartment) !

by Rob Royston 07.10.12 15:15

Moa wrote:How can we be so confident of this?

Well, it's a False Flag Child Abduction, it's clear from the excessive media attention surrounding it. The NWO have taken her away as part of a Social Engineering/Propaganda campaign to ensure we allow our children to receive microchip implants. This is why they selected Madeleine as she was from a middle-class medical family, meaning that we are all left thinking "If it could happen to them it could happen to anyone".

Children go missing all of the time, but they keep on wheeling this story back out again as there's an important agenda behind it. Expect Madeleine to be "Found" at the same time as the microchips are ready for our newborns. This is why it's so important that she is alive, as then theoretically the microchip would have enabled her to be tracked down, whereas if she was no longer alive the microchip might not have been enough to save her life.

If you're not convinced, wait and see, then you'll know!

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If this theory were true, and it's as good as any other we have, then it means that the dogs findings were all set up as well. Again, this could be the case. Covering your work they called it in the lodges, or dis-information in the internet lingo.

When I was reading the Goncalo book and came to the bit where he explained his version of the death theory, I suddenly felt uneasy about the whole thing. Was it all a big staged event? Are we all being strung along blindly being softened up to be robbed of even more of our hard won liberties?

by **tigger** 07.10.12 16:30

Rob Royston wrote:
Moa wrote:How can we be so confident of this?

Well, it's a False Flag Child Abduction, it's clear from the excessive media attention surrounding it. The NWO have taken her away as part of a Social Engineering/Propaganda campaign to ensure we allow our children to receive microchip implants. This is why they selected Madeleine as she was from a middle-class medical family, meaning that we are all left thinking "If it could happen to them it could happen to anyone".

Children go missing all of the time, but they keep on wheeling this story back out again as there's an important agenda behind it. Expect Madeleine to be "Found" at the same time as the microchips are ready for our newborns. This is why it's so important that she is alive, as then theoretically the microchip would have enabled her to be tracked down, whereas if she was no longer alive the microchip might not have been enough to save her life.

If you're not convinced, wait and see, then you'll know!

[url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799055/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799055/pg1[/quote[/url]]

If this theory were true, and it's as good as any other we have, then it means that the dogs findings were all set up as well. Again, this could be the case. Covering your work they called it in the lodges, or dis-information in the internet lingo.

When I was reading the Goncalo book and came to the bit where he explained his version of the death theory, I suddenly felt uneasy about the whole thing. Was it all a big staged event? Are we all being strung along blindly being softened up to be robbed of even more of our hard won liberties?

I'm quite convinced it was to get on the microchip bandwagon, but also sure that it wasn't a fake abduction or abduction organised for that purpose.
It was simply so badly done - the evidence of abduction so totally missing, that it bears all the hallmarks of someone who thinks he's clever and regards foreigners and simple folk like us as inferior and gullible.
No, imo it served a purpose for just a few individuals and the Fund too was an entirely private affair. The template for this was surely the JonBenet Ramsey murder. So many parallels.
None of the expected 'jobs' were offered, thanks to the fact that the abduction was so impossible to prove. The McCanns were looking for an ambassodorial role for Amber Alert and had probably expected to get the microchip industry to give them another such role.
Instead, by setting up this abduction the exact opposite was achieved. In other words and imo the McCanns were too 'toxic' .

by jd 11.10.12 2:06

tigger wrote:
Rob Royston wrote:
Moa wrote:How can we be so confident of this?

Well, it's a False Flag Child Abduction, it's clear from the excessive media attention surrounding it. The NWO have taken her away as part of a Social Engineering/Propaganda campaign to ensure we allow our children to receive microchip implants. This is why they selected Madeleine as she was from a middle-class medical family, meaning that we are all left thinking "If it could happen to them it could happen to anyone".

Children go missing all of the time, but they keep on wheeling this story back out again as there's an important agenda behind it. Expect Madeleine to be "Found" at the same time as the microchips are ready for our newborns. This is why it's so important that she is alive, as then theoretically the microchip would have enabled her to be tracked down, whereas if she was no longer alive the microchip might not have been enough to save her life.

If you're not convinced, wait and see, then you'll know!

[url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799055/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799055/pg1[/quote[/url]]

If this theory were true, and it's as good as any other we have, then it means that the dogs findings were all set up as well. Again, this could be the case. Covering your work they called it in the lodges, or dis-information in the internet lingo.

When I was reading the Goncalo book and came to the bit where he explained his version of the death theory, I suddenly felt uneasy about the whole thing. Was it all a big staged event? Are we all being strung along blindly being softened up to be robbed of even more of our hard won liberties?

I'm quite convinced it was to get on the microchip bandwagon, but also sure that it wasn't a fake abduction or abduction organised for that purpose.
It was simply so badly done - the evidence of abduction so totally missing, that it bears all the hallmarks of someone who thinks he's clever and regards foreigners and simple folk like us as inferior and gullible.
No, imo it served a purpose for just a few individuals and the Fund too was an entirely private affair. The template for this was surely the JonBenet Ramsey murder. So many parallels.
None of the expected 'jobs' were offered, thanks to the fact that the abduction was so impossible to prove. The McCanns were looking for an ambassodorial role for Amber Alert and had probably expected to get the microchip industry to give them another such role.
Instead, by setting up this abduction the exact opposite was achieved. In other words and imo the McCanns were too 'toxic' .

All the meetings they had, people who got involved from the outset, and the visits that gerry mccann made at this time suggest strongly this was the case. This imo was what the mccanns accepted as their part from the Symingtons/OC. And looking at gerry mccann laughing like he had won the lottery within 3 and 9 days shows he was easily persuaded! This also shows why he always this big smirk, he knows the powers behind the scenes would always protect the scam, they had to despite what they really thought of the mccanns

by **tigger** 11.10.12 9:36

It certainly would explain a lot.
Curiously, the diplomatic ties between Portugal go back a very long way, but the economic ties go back even further I believe. As I said before, we have to let go of the 'foreign' angle. Little Britain is was and it in the Algarve.
What's not to like? Sun, golf courses, investments...

by **tigger** 11.10.12 15:44

jd wrote:
All the meetings they had, people who got involved from the outset, and the visits that gerry mccann made at this time suggest strongly this was the case. This imo was what the mccanns accepted as their part from the Symingtons/OC. And looking at gerry mccann laughing like he had won the lottery within 3 and 9 days shows he was easily persuaded! This also shows why he always this big smirk, he knows the powers behind the scenes would always protect the scam, they had to despite what they really thought of the mccanns.
unquote

I suddenly thought: 'That's it, he pulled a fast one and it came off, just - but it came off!' It is so in character!

by jd 11.10.12 17:44

tigger wrote:jd wrote:
All the meetings they had, people who got involved from the outset, and the visits that gerry mccann made at this time suggest strongly this was the case. This imo was what the mccanns accepted as their part from the Symingtons/OC. And looking at gerry mccann laughing like he had won the lottery within 3 and 9 days shows he was easily persuaded! This also shows why he always this big smirk, he knows the powers behind the scenes would always protect the scam, they had to despite what they really thought of the mccanns.
unquote

I suddenly thought: 'That's it, he pulled a fast one and it came off, just - but it came off!' It is so in character!

People only smirk like these when they are 100% sure and confident. Having the powers that are be unable to have the scam exposed is reason enough to feel this confidence and be smirking. Also goes a long way that they make things up as they go along and feel untouchable

by Guest 21.03.13 15:48

jd wrote

Edward Smethurst who is an ambassador of Cancer Research UK and in 2007 mounted a legal challenge to stop the controversial £50 million wind farm development at Scout Moor, Edenfield.

You guys are really putting something very interesting together....Just want to add a couple more facts, mainly using quotes into the equation:

Mark Warner bought into the Ocean Club in PDL in April 2007

Edward Smethurst, the 30-year-old lawyer and millionaire property developer whose latest challenge in 1999 was the chairmanship of the the Law Society’s commerce & industry group. The new chairman of its commerce and industry (C&I) group is fresh-faced Edward Smethurst, senior legal adviser at British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL), who at 30 is by far the youngest person to take up the position.

It was the UK Government who arranged for the McCanns to meet and liaise with a number of European and other word-wide Political leaders to discuss the setting up of an American version of 'Amber Alert'; a child abduction alert system. It is entirely possible, of course that these incidents were merely born out of an association and presumably FREINDSHIP between Gerry McCann and Gordon’s brother, ANDREW Brown, with whom Gerry worked at COMARE. COMARE, (Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation) is a British Government QUANGO, basically set up to debunk claims by campaigners that certain areas around the vicinity of Power Stations can induce childhood CANCERS.

Gordon Brown is, or at least WAS, a huge supporter and advocate of further Power Station development in the UK and COMARE, (of which his BROTHER Andrew is a Director), was an essential weapon for Brown in allaying any ‘Nuclear fears’ amongst the public. Essentially, along with others, COMARE was “advised” by Gerry McCann.

Does anyone know if GM was involved with COMARE before May 2007

I've posted this on the forum but after reading through all the posts on this thread I think it belongs here.

· 6 years ago

Much has been made of the McCanns government links, and this being the reason for the apparant government cover up surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The usual suspects have been rolled out: the freemasons, illuminati, etc.

The link is far more simple.

Gordon Brown is the prime minister and therefore the man making decisions and signing the cheques.

His brother, Andrew, is the press officer for EDF energy which operates nuclear power stations.

"In November 2005, EFD's Chief Executive, Vincent de Rivaz, told a parliamentary committee that new nuclear power stations could be built within ten years if planning and licensing laws are relaxed."

Gerry McCann is a medical advisor to COMARE, a governemnt committee which monitors radiation in the enviroment.

It's a win, win, win situation. Except of course for those who end up living next door to a nuclear waste depot.

But not to worry because Yvette Cooper is the housing minister, and her father, Tony, is a board member of the Nuclear Decommisioning Authority. Yvette Cooper also happens to be married to Gordon's political chum, Ed Balls.

So all Gerry needs to do to repay Gordon, for getting a case of potential infanticide dropped, is vote through the relaxation of the laws surrounding the operation and commisioning of nuclear power stations. Then Gordon signs the cheques, and his brother gets a bonus for his successful lobbying. Gordon gets paid later in the form of a nice little pension for doing a couple of days work as a director.

Nope there is no corruption in British public life.

peace:)

· 6 years ag

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