Jane Tanner Liar
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Marian- Posts: 1071
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Re: Jane Tanner Liar
They are struggling not only to think ahead as to the possible consequence of saying a particular thing, but simultaneously having to remember what they said before, and either remembering, or guessing what the others have said, or may have said.
In one or two of the rogatories they are very clearly waffling around and not answering the question at all, by diverting the interviewer towards something else. He seems not to have been sharp enough to spot what was going on, and to keep pressing for direct or clear answers. Or perhaps he had been briefed. I don't know.
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candyfloss wrote:twitter - from spudgun...............
Mike Spudgun (@spudgun01)
Posted Tuesday 13th September 2011 from Twitlonger
because the clothes and everything was the thing... was the thing that was the most in my mind then and I can remember saying to the chap I met on the stairs earlier......”
What chap on what stairs??? Is she talking about in 2008 at the time of the interview, if so, who speaks on the stairs. If in 2007 after the alarm was raise, who is she referring to?
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Sightings in real life
I have two children and I was very afraid. I went quietly into my kitchen getting to big knifes, then I woke my husband up.
He manage to scare the guy out, and we both saw him and his car and got the numberplate.
I saw the burglar when he stood outside, maybe 7-8 meters away not to light, not to dark I saw him well enough to see he had beard, was not from my country and aged between 25-30.
Already today this picture of him is vague, and I could not have identified him today. I can't clearly remember his clothing or facial expressions, take a man in the same agen and colored skin infront of me, I could not have pointed out the man or even given a reliable sketch of him I think...
I find it so unbelieveble that Jane could remember more over time, and that for a person she really did not pay any special attention to when seeing him, as I did whit the burglar..
I saw the burglar in a better lighting and in closer distance than Jane saw the alleged abductor...
Just wanted to share my experience on this...
And I do not feel comfortable beeing alone in that house tonight
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Moa wrote:Last night I woke up in the middle of the night from sounds in my hallway downstairs.. I soon ruled out a natural explanation and soon understand there was a burglar in my house.
I have two children and I was very afraid. I went quietly into my kitchen getting to big knifes, then I woke my husband up.
He manage to scare the guy out, and we both saw him and his car and got the numberplate.
I saw the burglar when he stood outside, maybe 7-8 meters away not to light, not to dark I saw him well enough to see he had beard, was not from my country and aged between 25-30.
Already today this picture of him is vague, and I could not have identified him today. I can't clearly remember his clothing or facial expressions, take a man in the same agen and colored skin infront of me, I could not have pointed out the man or even given a reliable sketch of him I think...
I find it so unbelieveble that Jane could remember more over time, and that for a person she really did not pay any special attention to when seeing him, as I did whit the burglar..
I saw the burglar in a better lighting and in closer distance than Jane saw the alleged abductor...
Just wanted to share my experience on this...
And I do not feel comfortable beeing alone in that house tonightmy husband is going away for two days.. On the other side im glad I was not home alone as it happened...Probably they stay away tonight !
Oh dear Moa what a terrifying experience for you. How had he got in?
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Nina- Posts: 1536
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Nina wrote:
Oh dear Moa what a terrifying experience for you. How had he got in?
Through the patio doors ?
(Sorry Moa. One shouldn't joke. I know how unsettling it is to find someone strange in your home. Don't dwell on it. You did the right thing, grabbing the knives to protect your family, but very pleased you were not called upon to use them. You showed great courage and strength of character, and I applaud you for your level headed approach. taking the car number, instead of wailing and smashing furniture, for example. Did you call a priest ?
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PeterMac wrote:Nina wrote:
Oh dear Moa what a terrifying experience for you. How had he got in?
Through the patio doors ?
(Sorry Moa. One shouldn't joke. I know how unsettling it is to find someone strange in your home. Don't dwell on it. You did the right thing, grabbing the knives to protect your family, but very pleased you were not called upon to use them. You showed great courage and strength of character, and I applaud you for your level headed approach. taking the car number, instead of wailing and smashing furniture, for example. Did you call a priest ?)
LOL , well im a person using humor in mylife, no worries there PeterMac :D
Well no they did not enter the patio door :). I live where noone things anyone lives, above an electrical shop. In the basement there is a little appartment used by my landlords son maybe 2 out of 12 months in a year.( so I soon ruled out that the person I heard was him) , he went in trough a window then broke up a door before he entered my hallway, where there is an emergency exit from the electric shop and into my hallway. So he was trying to break that door open, my bedroom is right up the stairs in that hallway, only 3 /4 meters away from where he was..Im very sure he would have continued up to my appartment and room if I had not wokend up, luckily im a light sleeper and wakes up very easily, but he made so much noices that he was either just very stupid or totally unawear of us living there...Creepy experience it was either way...
Luckely I did ( and the burglar) did not need a priest
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Moa wrote:Last night I woke up in the middle of the night from sounds in my hallway downstairs.. I soon ruled out a natural explanation and soon understand there was a burglar in my house.
I have two children and I was very afraid. I went quietly into my kitchen getting to big knifes, then I woke my husband up.
He manage to scare the guy out, and we both saw him and his car and got the numberplate.
I saw the burglar when he stood outside, maybe 7-8 meters away not to light, not to dark I saw him well enough to see he had beard, was not from my country and aged between 25-30.
Already today this picture of him is vague, and I could not have identified him today. I can't clearly remember his clothing or facial expressions, take a man in the same agen and colored skin infront of me, I could not have pointed out the man or even given a reliable sketch of him I think...
I find it so unbelieveble that Jane could remember more over time, and that for a person she really did not pay any special attention to when seeing him, as I did whit the burglar..
I saw the burglar in a better lighting and in closer distance than Jane saw the alleged abductor...
Just wanted to share my experience on this...
And I do not feel comfortable beeing alone in that house tonightmy husband is going away for two days.. On the other side im glad I was not home alone as it happened...Probably they stay away tonight !
Dear Moa,
I hope you are ok. We were taken hostage earlier this year by three gunmen. I can no longer remember what they look like or what they were wearing. One of them had a gold sort of tattoo beneath one of his eyes (I can't even remember which eye). I can remember exactly what they did, I can remember exactly what they said but I can't remember what they looked like or what they were wearing. Please Moa, if you can, ask/pay someone to stay with you for the next couple of nights - preferably someone with a big dog. Be safe.
aquila x

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aquila wrote:Moa wrote:Last night I woke up in the middle of the night from sounds in my hallway downstairs.. I soon ruled out a natural explanation and soon understand there was a burglar in my house.
I have two children and I was very afraid. I went quietly into my kitchen getting to big knifes, then I woke my husband up.
He manage to scare the guy out, and we both saw him and his car and got the numberplate.
I saw the burglar when he stood outside, maybe 7-8 meters away not to light, not to dark I saw him well enough to see he had beard, was not from my country and aged between 25-30.
Already today this picture of him is vague, and I could not have identified him today. I can't clearly remember his clothing or facial expressions, take a man in the same agen and colored skin infront of me, I could not have pointed out the man or even given a reliable sketch of him I think...
I find it so unbelieveble that Jane could remember more over time, and that for a person she really did not pay any special attention to when seeing him, as I did whit the burglar..
I saw the burglar in a better lighting and in closer distance than Jane saw the alleged abductor...
Just wanted to share my experience on this...
And I do not feel comfortable beeing alone in that house tonightmy husband is going away for two days.. On the other side im glad I was not home alone as it happened...Probably they stay away tonight !
Dear Moa,
I hope you are ok. We were taken hostage earlier this year by three gunmen. I can no longer remember what they look like or what they were wearing. One of them had a gold sort of tattoo beneath one of his eyes (I can't even remember which eye). I can remember exactly what they did, I can remember exactly what they said but I can't remember what they looked like or what they were wearing. Please Moa, if you can, ask/pay someone to stay with you for the next couple of nights - preferably someone with a big dog. Be safe.
aquila x
Ty Aquilla, I remember your story wich was much more horrifing than mine !!
Yeah I do not feel good about beeing alone to night.. Im gone lock some extra doors and sleep inside the living room. Our bedroom is in the hallway on the outside of the appartment, so if I sleep in the living room I can then lock and extra door into the acuall apartment where the children sleep..
my landlord was also going to secure doors and windows with extra lockes :)
And yes I remember every sound and movement and the numberplate, wich I almost got wrong right after due to stress ! But the looks of this guy has faded amasingly quickly away ..
The police called me an hour ago , they where out looking for this Abdulla Kurtis age 25 ! Oh he also drove his father car when doing it so im praying he has some very strickt religious parents that will wipe his ass !!
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Re: Jane Tanner Liar
When someone makes up a story or a crime, quite often they will use the number 3 when choosing a number of persons, a time, floor etc
It may be to do with the fact that as children when we are read fairy stories 3 crops up a lot and as such becomes a part of our subconscious.
Thus when a guilty person makes a statement about an alleged crime the number 3 crops up examples being charlie rogers and the 3 men who assualted her ( currently facing charges) tiffany hartley and the 3 boats that allegedly chased her and her husband on a lake between texas and mexico with the result her husband was shot on the mexican side of the lake ( refused polygraphs, interviews with the mexican investigators, 3 o'clock as the time the timeline was allegedly written (tanner and russell) number of checks performed (oldfield gerry and kate)
In statement analysis seeing the number three crops up in a statement it doesn't mean the subject is being deceptive, it however should be noted (red flagged) and firther questions asked in relation to the number, either immediately or on returning to the question and perhaps phrasing it differently.
One or two red flags in a statement doesn't necessarily mean deception is indicated rather when there are multiple red flags it causes the analysts to look closer.
Other red flags would be pronouns, dropped pronouns and tenses. Are they in the correct place, consistent and appropriate?
If they aren't, where are they missing from or where do they change?
Why does it change?
We also look for changes in language.
A good interviewer doesn't ask compound questions nor do they introdice new language.
The let the subject introduce new language and note where it occurs, a change in language reflects a change in reality, is the change warranted?
In cases of missing children the expected is to see from the mother particularly a lot of I, she is protective of her child and her emotions are on high alert.
What i note with kate is a lot of we ( we indicates shared guilt or minimising of her own role) and you when asked how she feels or would react.
Her replies invariably skip to 3rd person distancing, she doesn't take ownership of what she says , instead, she tells us the interviewer and listener how we would feel in the same situation.
If she can't take ownership of something we can't do it for her.
Listen closely or read closely what she ACTUALLY says rather than what you THINK she says.
The same for the rest of the group
Remeber with casey anthony, she told us dead squirrels ran into the engine.
Dead squirrels don't run anywhere


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