Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

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Post  HiDeHo on Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:17 am

I have managed to compile a Calendar listing as much information for each day as possible (always a work in process)

I now have the majority of days from May - September including photos, Gerry's blog, Kate's Diary, News Articles, visitors to PdL, etc and finally I have been able to add the phone pings for each day

I have been looking forward to getting this information collated as I believe it may highlight the days when their phone pings did not match 'known' activities and therefore MAY give an indication as to which day may have had more sinister activities than we were supposed to know.

I have only just completed it and have not had time to scutinise the days but mid June, late July and early August seem to be days to look at more closely.

I will be adding documents pertaining to specific days (car hire forms etc) and any other info of interest.

Any thoughts on which days pings do not 'match' what we have been led to believe?

Could they be the days that Madeleine was moved in the Scenic and/or buried?

http://madeleinemccann.aimoo.com/Individual-Topics/CALENDAR-May-Sept-2007-with-Phone-Pings-1-912708.html


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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  HiDeHo on Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:51 am

I created some reference maps with ping locations.

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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  HiDeHo on Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:20 am

July 26th 2007

SUMMARY (approx)

Gerry returns from Washington

Kate leaves PdL around 3.15pm and arrives at the airport just before 4.50pm

Gerry's arrives from Washington about 4.40pm

Kate's phone doesn't ping until 6.24pm back in PdL (hour and quarter approx from Faro Airport)

Gerry overshoots PdL to Vila do Bispo (7 miles west of PdL at 7.05pm (approx 90 min drive from Faro Airport and 21 minute drive from PdL)

Returns back to Budens at 7.10pm (9 minute drive )

Arrives back in PdL at 7.50 approx (14 minute drive from Budens but took 40 mins)

25 minutes between Budens and PdL unaccounted for.

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Post  ufercoffy on Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:29 am

clapping1 fantastic work as usual HiDeHo

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Post  PeterMac on Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:35 pm

Excellent detective work. Painstaking, detailed and with the very simplest and basic of conclusions being drawn form what is found.
And to cap it all a map of the "Lawless Hinterland" in which Madeleine is being held in her "Hellish Lair", by a predatory Paed**** without coming to any harm.

I have looked in details on google earth at that aras, which is in fact has a couple of golf courses, some well tended farmland and some hills.
Good waling country probably, if it wasn't for the bandits !
What century does Edgar think he is living in ?

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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  HiDeHo on Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:13 pm

We don't 'know' WHEN Madeleine's body was moved but we 'know' it WAS moved and according to Goncalo

Amaral she had probably been held in a freezer and fluids leaked into the trunk of the car creating stains which would be difficult to clean, especially in the very hot weather.

Sometime in June and July (after they rented the car and when the dogs arrived) Madeleine was moved.

For most of the time, (with a couple of visits back to England) Sandy Cameron and Trish were staying with Gerry and Kate.

Sandy was driving the car and claims that 'STILL' in July, leading one to believe it was at the end of July, he bought some shopping and noticed blood leaking from the bag and, therefore, had to air the car out.

We know there was a neighbour (who was not interviewed officially) that saw the trunk left open all night for a period of time indicating there was probably an odour they were trying to get rid of.

This 'time' in my opinion is when they moved Madeleine's body (at least one of the times).

When comparing those details with their activities according to the 'pings' in late July, one had to wonder why there were some very 'odd' trips to the West of PdL.

Thursday July 26th Gerry visited Vila do Bispo (7 miles west of PdL) immediately upon returning from Washington (without stopping in PdL) spending 25 minutes around that area (extra to driving time)

Friday July 27th he visited Sagres in the evening (alone?)

Saturday July 28th, Kate went to Faro airport in the morning around 9am until 11.30 approx (according to pings) while Gerry claims 'they' took the children to the beach.

Between approx 11.30am until 2.00pm approx both their phones were turned off.

In Kates diary she claims to have had a dip in the jacuzzi with the twins at 4.20pm

At 4.25pm both Kates phone and Gerry's phone pings in PdL after Gerry switches on his phone.

They both went to Budens/Burgau by 5.30pm - 6.00pm, according to the pings, and were both back in PdL by
Kate at 6.41pm, Gerry at 7.17pm.

Gerry's phone switched off approx 8.30pm - 10.30 pm.

Why did Kate claim, and was so sure their 'jacuzzi dip' was at 4.20pm, just before their phone pings (4.25pm) showed them leave PdL for Budens/Burgau?

Why did they 'suddenly' start visiting this area? (earlier on June 19th approx I believe).

Why did Gerry visit Budens immediately he returned from Washington (before stopping in PdL)

Why did Kate go to the airport when Gerry claims 'they' went to the beach and met a nice Portuguese couple?

Again...keep in mind this was all around the time the Scenic trunk was left open to 'air'.

Could this be the time when Madeleine's body was moved?

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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  mischief on Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:08 pm

Wow that's an amazing piece of work.

I'm new to this forum so need to catch up on the Maddie threads and refresh my memory of all the complexities of the case before I dare make any comment myself or any that might be of use.

One thing I will say now though is I don't doubt the two sniffer dogs. I believe sniffer dogs and especially those two rarely get it wrong.

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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  listener on Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:48 pm

Around Vila do bisbo and Budens there are quite remote and unpopulated areas of the countryside - especially the former, I recall.

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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  Shibboleth on Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:03 am

There seem to be quite a few 'experts' on mobile telecomms and triangulation on the Jo Yeates thread. It would be good if some of them were to come over here and give us their professional opinions on the McCann phone pings.

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Re: Calendar May - Sept - .Daily Activities with Phone Pings for Comparison

Post  HiDeHo on Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:38 pm

I have been contemplating the activities in the last days of July and keeping in mind that this isn't about whether they moved Maddies body...its about WHEN.

The open trunk and the explanation of the blood from food by Sandy Cameron 'tells' me that this is very likely the time she was moved.

I have been scrutinising the area of ther visits and realised that Eef Hoos crematorium is relatively close.

Along with that...after Tricia and Sandy Cameron having visited for most of the time May/June/July the 'suddenly' fly home on the Sunday. (after the visits to Sagres/Budens/Vila do Bispo on Thursday Friday and Saturday)

On Saturday morning, Kates phone shows a trip to Faro airport (even though Gerry claims 'they' were at the beach. Could the visit have been to arrange a quick flight home the following morning for Trish and Sandy?

In other words...did they move her body, have her cremated and Sandy and Trish took her home July 29th?

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