Re: Gemma O'Doherty investigative journalist will soon publish details of her investigation into the Madeleine McCann case

by Mark Willis 08.01.18 14:54

"Gemma O'Doherty investigative journalist will soon publish details of her investigation into the Madeleine McCann case"

Publish where and in what form?
If it is Youtube vid then nothing will change.
If, however, it were to be anything like Richard Hall's vids and get on telly, that would make a difference, and then some.

by MRNOODLES 08.01.18 15:17

MayMuse wrote:
MRNOODLES wrote:Wow. That was interesting. It had everything in the cover-up playbook.
And still no justice for Mary., her sisters pain is palpable.
I believe the mother knows what happened as do the Garda...Paedophilles seem to have a web of protection don't they?

That was an interesting point that was suggested. There's a phenomenon in sexual abuse families that occurs. If a mother is abused as a child. And then their child is a abused. The mother sometimes don't do much about it. It's a sort of, 'I went through it, so you have to too'.

I'm sure the subject has been covered here before.

by Guest 08.01.18 15:22

The mother has BLOCKED an inquest.

Mental.

She knows alright.

by Phoebe 08.01.18 17:45

The main suspect in the Mary Boyle case is a member of her mother's family. The police investigating at the time were (by their own admission) told to ease off during questioning him just as they felt he was on the point of confessing. This allegedly occurred after an intervention by a politician who knew him well. There is no suggestion of a paedophile ring cover-up, rather it was a powerful man doing a favour for a political crony. Because politics stymied the original investigation, now all political parties and the Gardai do not want what happened revisited. The mother does not seem want to investigate the possibility that a member of her own family is responsible, even though the dead girl's identical twin has publicly stated her belief that this is what happened. I would expect Gemma O'Doherty to do a thorough job of any program she undertakes. Perhaps she will get to speak to the Smith family. Given that they are Irish, I would be astonished if she didn't contact them to see what they might have to say. They may or may not engage with her but I feel their response either way could be of interest.

by **Jill Havern** 08.01.18 17:48

I hope she tries to get an interview with Jim Gamble thumbsup

by alan 08.01.18 19:43

The video was released in 2016.

The following link gives more up to date information and names names.

http://crimeblogger1983.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/mary-boyle-irelands-oldest-missing.html

by MayMuse 08.01.18 20:29

Phoebe wrote:The main suspect in the Mary Boyle case is a member of her mother's family. The police investigating at the time were (by their own admission) told to ease off during questioning him just as they felt he was on the point of confessing. This allegedly occurred after an intervention by a politician who knew him well. There is no suggestion of a paedophile ring cover-up, rather it was a powerful man doing a favour for a political crony. Because politics stymied the original investigation, now all political parties and the Gardai do not want what happened revisited. The mother does not seem want to investigate the possibility that a member of her own family is responsible, even though the dead girl's identical twin has publicly stated her belief that this is what happened. I would expect Gemma O'Doherty to do a thorough job of any program she undertakes. Perhaps she will get to speak to the Smith family. Given that they are Irish, I would be astonished if she didn't contact them to see what they might have to say. They may or may not engage with her but I feel their response either way could be of interest.

I agree and think Gemma would only undertake if she felt she could do a thorough job...this case did become political too. The mothers brother was /is the main suspect...is Gerry a common name in Ireland?

by Verdi 08.01.18 20:29

BlueBag wrote:Maybe Gemma reads CMoMM.

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Judging by her tweets, I don't think so.

If she has she doesn't appear to have taken much notice.

by Phoebe 09.01.18 0:28

@ MayMuse. Gerry was a very common name here, short for both Gerald (as in McCann) and Gerard. The latter version is very popular as St Gerard Majella is the patron saint of expectant mothers. Many women, especially those with difficult pregnancies, ended up calling their sons "Gerard" and their daughters "Majella"! There are also several you tube videos, (posted before the O'Doherty program) by The "Sunday World Investigates" team. They contain even more information and allegations, including the discovery nearby of a new, shallow grave, which the police failed to investigate, despite being told about it.

by MayMuse 09.01.18 2:40

@ MayMuse. Gerry was a very common name here, short for both Gerald (as in McCann) and Gerard. The latter version is very popular as St Gerard Majella is the patron saint of expectant mothers. Many women, especially those with difficult pregnancies, ended up calling their sons "Gerard" and their daughters "Majella"! There are also several you tube videos, (posted before the O'Doherty program) by The "Sunday World Investigates" team. They contain even more information and allegations, including the discovery nearby of a new, shallow grave, which the police failed to investigate, despite being told about it.

@Phoebe Thank you, I went searching and found this interview with Gemma... Very interesting information on many levels she is no SP that's for sure a positive so hold out hope for her new documentary on Madeleine.

by Phoebe 09.01.18 15:39

I listened to the interview with Gemma O'Doherty posted by MayMuse (thanks) and was surprised to hear her speak of a paedophile ring in connection with the Mary Boyle case. That does not tally with local opinion which holds that the abuse they believe Mary suffered (which lead to her murder) was strictly familial. Mary lived quite far away from this alleged abuser and would only have seen him a couple of times each year. Her immediate family was only there that weekend as they were staying with her grandparents because of a family anniversary. Local opinion believes this was an example of opportunistic abuse and that the political interference came into play because the chief suspect was a political ally of the alleged, interfering politician. As she rightly points out, corruption through political interference was, and is, endemic and would occur regardless of the nature of the wrongdoing. Unfortunately, this type of abuse was all too common and was usually hushed up by other family members if discovered for fear of the shame that would follow exposure. I hope she gives more details about this alleged "ring".

by Verdi 09.01.18 15:51

Ms O'Doherty appears to be clued up on home affairs.

One of her recent tweets, she mentions the Donegal connection - now that could prove very interesting. So much of this case leads back to Ireland in one way or another, an aspect that's always intrigued me.

Perahps she can throw some light on Gamble and Edgar and Smith !?!

Better still Cardinal Cormack Murphy O'Connor who, with the help of Clarence Mitchell, arranged for the McCanns visit to the Vatican. The Cardinal heavily involved in the scandalous cover-up of child sex abuse in the church.

by Verdi 10.01.18 0:41

Gemma O'Doherty‏ @gemmaod1

Tony Blair went out of his way to help the McCanns. Why them, when 380 children go missing in the UK every day? Like Gerry, Blair had strong Donegal links and spent summer holidays in Ballyshannon, his mother’s hometown. McCann’s parents were also from Donegal #MadeleineMcCann

7:59 AM - 9 Jan 2018
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Looking good thumbup

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by **Jill Havern** 10.01.18 8:59

by **Jill Havern** 10.01.18 12:15

Gemma O'Doherty investigative journalist will soon publish details of her investigation into the Madeleine McCann case - Page 2 Gemma210

Gemma O'Doherty investigative journalist will soon publish details of her investigation into the Madeleine McCann case - Page 2 Gemma310

Hmmmm......

by **Jill Havern** 10.01.18 12:29

Gemma O'Doherty investigative journalist will soon publish details of her investigation into the Madeleine McCann case - Page 2 Humpty10

I believe HumptyBumpty is also a journalist.

by MRNOODLES 10.01.18 16:46

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

I believe HumptyBumpty is also a journalist.

HumBum might be just asking. But if you load questions with phrases like 'self serving journos' before you've researched their background. Your bound to be blocked.

We saw an example of this in one of Richard Hall's videos analysing that Buzz Aldrin interview. Go about it the wrong way, you've had it.

by polyenne 10.01.18 17:10

Keyboard warriors tend to lack the basic education associated with language skills (and probably conversational skills).
Poor punctuation, poor grammar (my particular bugbear is “should of” rather than “should have” or should’ve” and similar such aberrations).
I despair for future generations

by NickE 10.01.18 19:31

McCs friend, Mr Walker in full defence.

Gemma O'Doherty investigative journalist will soon publish details of her investigation into the Madeleine McCann case - Page 2 Screen33

by polyenne 10.01.18 19:57

Defending the indefensible

by MRNOODLES 10.01.18 20:22

NickE wrote:McCs friend, Mr Walker in full defence.

Expert from the Twitter University knows better than the two retired cops who investigated the matter.

by MayMuse 10.01.18 23:15

Who is this Michael Walker ?

by Phoebe 10.01.18 23:22

https://youtu.be/gBCTn72vi6w This is a link to a short piece which predates G O'Ds Mary Boyle documentary. There was another video which seems to have disappeared in which the two men (one is in the above clip) who found what they felt was a freshly dug shallow grave were interviewed. In that video one of the men described lifting some of the grass sods and seeing what he believed was brown hair. They reported this to the police at once but apparently no immediate search was instigated. I hope the link works as I'm a techo luddite.

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by Phoebe 10.01.18 23:42

For some confounded reason I cannot get the correct link to copy!! If anyone is interested type "The hunt for Mary Boyle Sunday World" into youtube and it's the video which shows a red stick stuck into the grass. One of the men in this clip describes what they did after finding the grave but the main part of the clip is taken up with a search organized by the newspaper. As I mentioned, the longer piece featuring a more extensive interview with the men describing what they found now seems unavailable.

by Verdi 10.01.18 23:49

Here you are Phoebe..

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