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'interesting' from the 'scum'
"Maddy is believed to have been snatched aged 3 from her parents’ holiday apartment while they had a dinner with friends on the other side of the resort."
"...the OTHER SIDE of the resort"
They WERE certainly the 'other' side of the wall, of the 'walled off' OC 'complex' weren't they?
Bit 'different' from their 'usual' guff about 'being just a few yards from apartment', 'in the back garden', 'very, very, near to' 'close by' etc.,
Now if the 'scum' could now 'provide' irrefutable, indisputable, PROOF, that Madeleine WAS 'snatched' from her apartment, by ANYONE, I'd be 'impressed'!
"Maddy is believed to have been snatched aged 3 from her parents’ holiday apartment while they had a dinner with friends on the other side of the resort."
"...the OTHER SIDE of the resort"
They WERE certainly the 'other' side of the wall, of the 'walled off' OC 'complex' weren't they?
Bit 'different' from their 'usual' guff about 'being just a few yards from apartment', 'in the back garden', 'very, very, near to' 'close by' etc.,
Now if the 'scum' could now 'provide' irrefutable, indisputable, PROOF, that Madeleine WAS 'snatched' from her apartment, by ANYONE, I'd be 'impressed'!
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Watch The Wright Stuff video - it's a total non-event, another campaign ruse to act as a distraction.
When the going gets tough, they always revert to a comparison between police resources allocated to the case of Madeleine McCann and other missing children - never any answers. just the same old questions. They should be asking why Operation Grange? Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portuguese territory, the Portuguese authorities did and still do, have primacy over the case, not the UK. Even if the Met Police find a wandering suspect, dead or alive, they are in no position to act as the investigative force.
They've done it again - and it's working.
I feel a very extravagant flambo[u]yant 10th anniversary in the course of preparation. That'll keep the 'trolls' [sic.] occupied for a few months.
Ever had the feeling you're being played?
When the going gets tough, they always revert to a comparison between police resources allocated to the case of Madeleine McCann and other missing children - never any answers. just the same old questions. They should be asking why Operation Grange? Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portuguese territory, the Portuguese authorities did and still do, have primacy over the case, not the UK. Even if the Met Police find a wandering suspect, dead or alive, they are in no position to act as the investigative force.
They've done it again - and it's working.
I feel a very extravagant flambo[u]yant 10th anniversary in the course of preparation. That'll keep the 'trolls' [sic.] occupied for a few months.
Ever had the feeling you're being played?
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Or put another way: a bit further than Gerry McCann said. And that was in itself quite an admission from troll-finder general Brunt.jeanmonroe wrote:'interesting' from the 'scum'
"Maddy is believed to have been snatched aged 3 from her parents’ holiday apartment while they had a dinner with friends on the other side of the resort."
"...the OTHER SIDE of the resort"
Bit 'different' from their 'usual' guff about 'being just a few yards from apartment', 'in the back garden', 'very, very, near to' 'close by' etc.,
Now if the 'scum' could now 'provide' irrefutable, indisputable, PROOF, that Madeleine WAS 'snatched' from her apartment, by ANYONE, I'd be 'impressed'!
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Daily Express - breaking news
'Last roll of dice' Funding boost as Maddie McCann detectives probe 'important' new lead
By [url=http://www.express.co.uk/search/?s= Ross]Ross Logan[/url]
PUBLISHED: 09:20, Sun, Dec 4, 2016 | UPDATED: 13:36, Sun, Dec 4, 2016
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Maddie police launch ‘global hunt’ for hotel worker who 'kept secrets' from investigators
British police have described the search as a “last role of the dice” in the hunt for the missing girl, who was last seen in a Portuguese resort in 2007.
By [url=http://www.express.co.uk/search/?s= Joey]Joey Millar[/url]
PUBLISHED: 09:12, Mon, Mar 13, 2017 | UPDATED: 10:33, Mon, Mar 13, 2017
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'Last roll of dice' Funding boost as Maddie McCann detectives probe 'important' new lead
DETECTIVES investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann will take "one last throw of the dice" after a fresh tip-off suggested she was kidnapped by a European trafficking gang.
By [url=http://www.express.co.uk/search/?s= Ross]Ross Logan[/url]
PUBLISHED: 09:20, Sun, Dec 4, 2016 | UPDATED: 13:36, Sun, Dec 4, 2016
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Maddie police launch ‘global hunt’ for hotel worker who 'kept secrets' from investigators
British police have described the search as a “last role of the dice” in the hunt for the missing girl, who was last seen in a Portuguese resort in 2007.
A WORLDWIDE manhunt has been launched for a former hotel worker who is suspected of withholding information in the search for Madeleine McCann.
By [url=http://www.express.co.uk/search/?s= Joey]Joey Millar[/url]
PUBLISHED: 09:12, Mon, Mar 13, 2017 | UPDATED: 10:33, Mon, Mar 13, 2017
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Last roll of the dice !
What game are they playing ?
Cluedo ?
Monopoly ?
Isn't there a game called " craps " ?
Maybe the scam with the 3 cups and the ball ?
Do they come up with these " ideas " in the local casino over boozy 3 hour lunches whilst " sardine munching " ?
What comes next " we used a Ouija board " ( which was developed as a Victorian Parlour game )
Important new lead , kept secrets , may or may not be involved ?l
Is the next visit ( jaunt ) to Portugal looming ?
10th anniversary certainly is , got to keep the McCanns on the front page so they'll ignore everything else that's going on !
Just my opinion of course
What game are they playing ?
Cluedo ?
Monopoly ?
Isn't there a game called " craps " ?
Maybe the scam with the 3 cups and the ball ?
Do they come up with these " ideas " in the local casino over boozy 3 hour lunches whilst " sardine munching " ?
What comes next " we used a Ouija board " ( which was developed as a Victorian Parlour game )
Important new lead , kept secrets , may or may not be involved ?l
Is the next visit ( jaunt ) to Portugal looming ?
10th anniversary certainly is , got to keep the McCanns on the front page so they'll ignore everything else that's going on !
Just my opinion of course
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http://www.policeprofessional.com/news.aspx?id=28716
Madeleine McCann inquiry extended
13 Mar 2017
Extra funding has been granted to extend the Madeleine McCann investigation until September.
The Home Office has allocated another £85,000 to Operation Grange, which is being conducted by the Metropolitan Police Service.
The money will be used to cover operational costs and brings the investigation’s total budget to £11.1 million.
Officers are reportedly still keen to interview a suspect who gave a witness statement shortly after Madeleine disappeared in 2007.
A Home Office spokesperson said: “Following an application from the Metropolitan Police Service for Special Grant funding the Home Office has confirmed £85,000 in operational costs for Operation Grange for the period between April 1 until September 2017.
“As with all applications, the required resources are reviewed regularly and careful consideration is given before any new funding is allocated.”
Madeleine McCann inquiry extended
13 Mar 2017
Extra funding has been granted to extend the Madeleine McCann investigation until September.
The Home Office has allocated another £85,000 to Operation Grange, which is being conducted by the Metropolitan Police Service.
The money will be used to cover operational costs and brings the investigation’s total budget to £11.1 million.
Officers are reportedly still keen to interview a suspect who gave a witness statement shortly after Madeleine disappeared in 2007.
A Home Office spokesperson said: “Following an application from the Metropolitan Police Service for Special Grant funding the Home Office has confirmed £85,000 in operational costs for Operation Grange for the period between April 1 until September 2017.
“As with all applications, the required resources are reviewed regularly and careful consideration is given before any new funding is allocated.”
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15:52:29jeanmonroe wrote:http://www.policeprofessional.com/news.aspx?id=28716
Madeleine McCann inquiry extended
13 Mar 2017
Extra funding has been granted to extend the Madeleine McCann investigation until September.
The Home Office has allocated another £85,000 to Operation Grange, which is being conducted by the Metropolitan Police Service.
The money will be used to cover operational costs and brings the investigation’s total budget to £11.1 million.
Officers are reportedly still keen to interview a suspect who gave a witness statement shortly after Madeleine disappeared in 2007.
Oh,no mention of the Two Crime Watch programmes and how much they have cost,not to mention the discrepancies shown to the public,Smithman/Creche Dad,still having the pyjamas his daughter was wearing and what he was attired in that evening,eh DCS Andy Redwood?
A Home Office spokesperson said: “Following an application from the Metropolitan Police Service for Special Grant funding the Home Office has confirmed £85,000 in operational costs for Operation Grange for the period between April 1 until September 2017.
“As with all applications, the required resources are reviewed regularly and careful consideration is given before any new funding is allocated.”
Now why didn't the investigative reporters question the"Funds allocated from the Madeleine Fund" of the bogus stories created,along with the special actors for Mr Dave Edgars master piece involving GMc,JW and JT?
Surely the public have a right to know if the donations have been mis-appropriated by the"Custodians"of the "Find Madeleine Fund,when these bogus characters fleeced the money?
Or is it just Tax payers money that counts and "Not" the donated money,"Just put your money in an Envelope,address it to the Find Madeleine Fund"It will get there,Eh Clarence,still happy to have accepted over £250,000 from the "Find Madeleine fund?
Why haven't the BBC raised any concerns about the costs of the Two Crime Watch Programmes,especially the October 2013/14 one,where"Smithman/Creche Dad"was morphed into one,still having his daughter pyjamas and the clothing he wore on that night 3 May 2007,eh DCS Andy Redwood-moving the clock forward?
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ChippyM wrote:Roxyroo wrote:Wow, just wow. AT LAST! Taxpayers being angry is mentioned! Now we're getting somewhere, don't know where but its one plus to us.
Jerry Lawton
I don't believe that's a victory. If people are sick of money being wasted on a case that is seemingly going no-where, it fits in with sweeping the whole thing under the carpet.
If the UK's best police force have spent millions of hard earned tax payers money and got no-where, this will lead to people being more accepting of Operation Grange closing after having found nothing. The narrative will be that they tried everything, even with all that money and they couldn't solve it....IMO.
It's similar to all those child abuse inquiries where they appointed people who resigned or were unsuitable to lead the inquiry...it's a farce people said, they were sick of it and didn't want to here any more about it!
(I don't actually trust ANY of the MSM, i just thought i would big up Mr Lawton on the off chance that any of them will read it, and see that this smidgeon of truth is appreciated. IMO there's going to be even more stories leaking out before 10th anniversary, as they desperately catch up with what the public ACTUALLY thinks)
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Assistentes.
Can anyone confirm if the McCanns became assistentes in the Portuguese investigation.
Ref: PJ files:
09-Outros Apensos Vol IX Pages 41 to 43
10-Processo 10 pages 2702 to 2704
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_041
Processo 10 page 2702
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_042
Processo 10 page 2703
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_043
Processo 10 page 2704
Letter from Pinto de Abreu
Date 25th September 2007
Gerald McCann and Kate Healy, identified in the case number above, having been notified as to whether they are interested in being constituted 'assistentes' in the process, both come to reply that they have every interest in being constituted 'assistentes'.
The constituted assistente in his/her position as collaborator of the Public Ministry is always subordinate to the PM, having the powers conferred upon him/her by article 69, no. 3 of the CPP, that is to say, all the rights of intervening in the process, offering proof and requiring the diligences they deem to be necessary, deducing independent charges and intervening in the decisions that affect them.
In this way, the status of assistente is not incompatible with the status of arguido, because it cannot be confirmed - with any degree of probability or even less of certainty - that the persons in question committed any crime or that either of them would have 'co-participated in the crime'.
The status of assistente, as well as that of arguido confers the rights of participation and intervention in the process (many of these even coincide), but even in this exercise, they never conflict because they are always subject to the application, pondering and decisions of the judge.
To this effect and according to article 68 .1 of the CPP 'assistentes in the penal process can be constituted as well as the persons and entities who confer them this right, in the case of the offended party being aged under 16, or due to any incapacity, the legal representative or the persons previously indicated, unless one of them has participated in the crime'.
There is no norm that prevents the constitution as assistentes of those requesting this status or that impedes them from exercising their rights as parents in representing the interests of their daughter Madeleine.
I would finally add that those making the requests, although arguidos, are innocent or at least presumed innocent, they are and do not cease to be the legal representatives of the girl Madeleine, they have a lawyer, they have paid their legal costs and in this sense, all things considered, having fulfilled all the requirements for the request, are also 'the owners of the interests that the law particularly wishes to protect'.
Last but not least, in the latest communication from the prosecutor, annexed to this note, the Public Ministry understands that 'no line or inquiry should be disregarded' which is why 'inquiries will continue under the functional direction of the Public Ministry, under the responsibility of the PJ', inquiries that cannot be prejudiced by those making the request, independently of the status conferred or imposed upon them.
We request that they should be admitted to the status of assistentes.
Lawyer
Carlos Pinto de Abreu
Ref: PJ files:
09-Outros Apensos Vol IX Pages 41 to 43
10-Processo 10 pages 2702 to 2704
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_041
Processo 10 page 2702
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_042
Processo 10 page 2703
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_043
Processo 10 page 2704
Letter from Pinto de Abreu
Date 25th September 2007
Gerald McCann and Kate Healy, identified in the case number above, having been notified as to whether they are interested in being constituted 'assistentes' in the process, both come to reply that they have every interest in being constituted 'assistentes'.
The constituted assistente in his/her position as collaborator of the Public Ministry is always subordinate to the PM, having the powers conferred upon him/her by article 69, no. 3 of the CPP, that is to say, all the rights of intervening in the process, offering proof and requiring the diligences they deem to be necessary, deducing independent charges and intervening in the decisions that affect them.
In this way, the status of assistente is not incompatible with the status of arguido, because it cannot be confirmed - with any degree of probability or even less of certainty - that the persons in question committed any crime or that either of them would have 'co-participated in the crime'.
The status of assistente, as well as that of arguido confers the rights of participation and intervention in the process (many of these even coincide), but even in this exercise, they never conflict because they are always subject to the application, pondering and decisions of the judge.
To this effect and according to article 68 .1 of the CPP 'assistentes in the penal process can be constituted as well as the persons and entities who confer them this right, in the case of the offended party being aged under 16, or due to any incapacity, the legal representative or the persons previously indicated, unless one of them has participated in the crime'.
There is no norm that prevents the constitution as assistentes of those requesting this status or that impedes them from exercising their rights as parents in representing the interests of their daughter Madeleine.
I would finally add that those making the requests, although arguidos, are innocent or at least presumed innocent, they are and do not cease to be the legal representatives of the girl Madeleine, they have a lawyer, they have paid their legal costs and in this sense, all things considered, having fulfilled all the requirements for the request, are also 'the owners of the interests that the law particularly wishes to protect'.
Last but not least, in the latest communication from the prosecutor, annexed to this note, the Public Ministry understands that 'no line or inquiry should be disregarded' which is why 'inquiries will continue under the functional direction of the Public Ministry, under the responsibility of the PJ', inquiries that cannot be prejudiced by those making the request, independently of the status conferred or imposed upon them.
We request that they should be admitted to the status of assistentes.
Lawyer
Carlos Pinto de Abreu
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Mirage wrote:Can anyone confirm if the McCanns became assistentes in the Portuguese investigation.
Ref: PJ files:
09-Outros Apensos Vol IX Pages 41 to 43
10-Processo 10 pages 2702 to 2704
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_041
Processo 10 page 2702
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_042
Processo 10 page 2703
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_043
Processo 10 page 2704
Letter from Pinto de Abreu
Date 25th September 2007
Gerald McCann and Kate Healy, identified in the case number above, having been notified as to whether they are interested in being constituted 'assistentes' in the process, both come to reply that they have every interest in being constituted 'assistentes'.
The constituted assistente in his/her position as collaborator of the Public Ministry is always subordinate to the PM, having the powers conferred upon him/her by article 69, no. 3 of the CPP, that is to say, all the rights of intervening in the process, offering proof and requiring the diligences they deem to be necessary, deducing independent charges and intervening in the decisions that affect them.
In this way, the status of assistente is not incompatible with the status of arguido, because it cannot be confirmed - with any degree of probability or even less of certainty - that the persons in question committed any crime or that either of them would have 'co-participated in the crime'.
The status of assistente, as well as that of arguido confers the rights of participation and intervention in the process (many of these even coincide), but even in this exercise, they never conflict because they are always subject to the application, pondering and decisions of the judge.
To this effect and according to article 68 .1 of the CPP 'assistentes in the penal process can be constituted as well as the persons and entities who confer them this right, in the case of the offended party being aged under 16, or due to any incapacity, the legal representative or the persons previously indicated, unless one of them has participated in the crime'.
There is no norm that prevents the constitution as assistentes of those requesting this status or that impedes them from exercising their rights as parents in representing the interests of their daughter Madeleine.
I would finally add that those making the requests, although arguidos, are innocent or at least presumed innocent, they are and do not cease to be the legal representatives of the girl Madeleine, they have a lawyer, they have paid their legal costs and in this sense, all things considered, having fulfilled all the requirements for the request, are also 'the owners of the interests that the law particularly wishes to protect'.
Last but not least, in the latest communication from the prosecutor, annexed to this note, the Public Ministry understands that 'no line or inquiry should be disregarded' which is why 'inquiries will continue under the functional direction of the Public Ministry, under the responsibility of the PJ', inquiries that cannot be prejudiced by those making the request, independently of the status conferred or imposed upon them.
We request that they should be admitted to the status of assistentes.
Lawyer
Carlos Pinto de Abreu
NO, they didn't.
Their 'cunning Mcplan' was to be 'in the tent' peeing out, rather than being outside the tent 'peeing in'! (or 'peeing' against the wind!)
They wanted to 'know' WHAT the PJ were 'investigating' ('them'?) as 'lines of inquiries'
It didn't 'work'!
Ah 'diddums'
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Hi Jeanmonroe,thanks for that little snippet,would this be the"Normal Reaction" of parents whose eldest daughter had been reported as missing/Abducted to the GNR Police Force,to try to ascertain what the Police did or did not know?
Sounds a bit like a"James Bond"scenario,may John Buck or Bill Henderson would care to cast light on their involvements to the case?
Sounds a bit like a"James Bond"scenario,may John Buck or Bill Henderson would care to cast light on their involvements to the case?
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Perhaps, there were one or two MORE 'BOGUS' erm, CHARITY 'COLLECTERS' in PDL, ('put money/donations in 'blue bucket' please') in May 2007, than DCI Andy led us to believe!
'If you know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink'
'If you know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink'
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willowthewisp wrote:Hi Jeanmonroe,thanks for that little snippet,would this be the"Normal Reaction" of parents whose eldest daughter had been reported as missing/Abducted to the GNR Police Force,to try to ascertain what the Police did or did not know?
Sounds a bit like a"James Bond"scenario,may John Buck or Bill Henderson would care to cast light on their involvements to the case?
'They' had no trouble, at the UK 'end', getting 'information', for, as KM has told us, (on Sky News, Adam Boulton? iirc) 'we have a hotline, directly, to, OG, 24/7, and they keep us 'informed' of every 'developement'! (owtte)
Yet AGAIN, I ask, WHY would an 'investigating' police force, KEEP, possible future 'suspects' in a child 'disappearance' case, informed of 'developements'?
Unless of course, KM was 'lying'.........AGAIN!
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jeanmonroe wrote:willowthewisp wrote:Hi Jeanmonroe,thanks for that little snippet,would this be the"Normal Reaction" of parents whose eldest daughter had been reported as missing/Abducted to the GNR Police Force,to try to ascertain what the Police did or did not know?
Sounds a bit like a"James Bond"scenario,may John Buck or Bill Henderson would care to cast light on their involvements to the case?
'They' had no trouble, at the UK 'end', getting 'information', for, as KM has told us, (on Sky News, Adam Boulton? iirc) 'we have a hotline, directly, to, OG, and they keep us 'informed' of every 'developement'!
Yet AGAIN, I ask, WHY would an 'investigating' police force, KEEP, possible future 'suspects' in a child 'disappearance' case, informed of 'developements'?
Unless of course, KM was 'lying'.........AGAIN!
Just as discussed in an earlier point,when the parents were made"Arquido's" "All of the UK Police left Portugal together" Matt Baggot moment?
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They also wanted to "assist" Leicester plod. Evidently they were concerned that information from the public ... that one missing piece of the jigsaw .... might be lying in a dusty file at HQ. Not withstanding their own "hotline" had never responded to hundreds of calls.jeanmonroe wrote:Mirage wrote:Can anyone confirm if the McCanns became assistentes in the Portuguese investigation.
Ref: PJ files:
09-Outros Apensos Vol IX Pages 41 to 43
10-Processo 10 pages 2702 to 2704
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_041
Processo 10 page 2702
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_042
Processo 10 page 2703
o_apensoIX_vol_1_Page_043
Processo 10 page 2704
Letter from Pinto de Abreu
Date 25th September 2007
Gerald McCann and Kate Healy, identified in the case number above, having been notified as to whether they are interested in being constituted 'assistentes' in the process, both come to reply that they have every interest in being constituted 'assistentes'.
The constituted assistente in his/her position as collaborator of the Public Ministry is always subordinate to the PM, having the powers conferred upon him/her by article 69, no. 3 of the CPP, that is to say, all the rights of intervening in the process, offering proof and requiring the diligences they deem to be necessary, deducing independent charges and intervening in the decisions that affect them.
In this way, the status of assistente is not incompatible with the status of arguido, because it cannot be confirmed - with any degree of probability or even less of certainty - that the persons in question committed any crime or that either of them would have 'co-participated in the crime'.
The status of assistente, as well as that of arguido confers the rights of participation and intervention in the process (many of these even coincide), but even in this exercise, they never conflict because they are always subject to the application, pondering and decisions of the judge.
To this effect and according to article 68 .1 of the CPP 'assistentes in the penal process can be constituted as well as the persons and entities who confer them this right, in the case of the offended party being aged under 16, or due to any incapacity, the legal representative or the persons previously indicated, unless one of them has participated in the crime'.
There is no norm that prevents the constitution as assistentes of those requesting this status or that impedes them from exercising their rights as parents in representing the interests of their daughter Madeleine.
I would finally add that those making the requests, although arguidos, are innocent or at least presumed innocent, they are and do not cease to be the legal representatives of the girl Madeleine, they have a lawyer, they have paid their legal costs and in this sense, all things considered, having fulfilled all the requirements for the request, are also 'the owners of the interests that the law particularly wishes to protect'.
Last but not least, in the latest communication from the prosecutor, annexed to this note, the Public Ministry understands that 'no line or inquiry should be disregarded' which is why 'inquiries will continue under the functional direction of the Public Ministry, under the responsibility of the PJ', inquiries that cannot be prejudiced by those making the request, independently of the status conferred or imposed upon them.
We request that they should be admitted to the status of assistentes.
Lawyer
Carlos Pinto de Abreu
NO, they didn't.
Their 'cunning Mcplan' was to be 'in the tent' peeing out, rather than being outside the tent 'peeing in'! (or 'peeing' against the wind!)
They wanted to 'know' WHAT the PJ were 'investigating' ('them'?) as 'lines of inquiries'
It didn't 'work'!
Ah 'diddums'
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RE The hotline this 2009 article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html
By Daniel Boffey In Washington
Last updated at 10:18 PM on 28th November 2009
Missing: Madeleine McCann disappeared in May 2007
A private eye whose company was paid £500,000 from a public fund to find Madeleine McCann squandered the money on a series of bizarre schemes that had no chance of locating the missing child.
Kevin Halligen, who claimed to have experience in the British secret services, was arrested last week in an Oxford hotel after an FBI manhunt over an unrelated £1.3million fraud case in America.
His investigations company, Oakley International, was taken on in March last year by the Find Madeleine Fund and her parents Kate and Gerry McCann.
But The Mail on Sunday can reveal today that despite setting up a hotline for potential informants and witnesses, none of the hundreds of calls received by a call centre hired by Halligen, 48, was listened to by Oakley investigators - and Halligen also bragged to his colleagues that he had executed a series of peculiar tactics to find Madeleine........
ARTICLE CONTINUES.
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Can you imagine .... as a parent of a missing child you are paying someone vast amounts of money out of a fund and you don't ring up and ask "What's the response on the hotline?"
Yet you want to know what the Leicester police have on file that may have been overlooked.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231757/Madeleine-McCann-investigator-didnt-listen-ANY-tip-offs-given-hotline--squandered-500-000.html
By Daniel Boffey In Washington
Last updated at 10:18 PM on 28th November 2009
Missing: Madeleine McCann disappeared in May 2007
A private eye whose company was paid £500,000 from a public fund to find Madeleine McCann squandered the money on a series of bizarre schemes that had no chance of locating the missing child.
Kevin Halligen, who claimed to have experience in the British secret services, was arrested last week in an Oxford hotel after an FBI manhunt over an unrelated £1.3million fraud case in America.
His investigations company, Oakley International, was taken on in March last year by the Find Madeleine Fund and her parents Kate and Gerry McCann.
But The Mail on Sunday can reveal today that despite setting up a hotline for potential informants and witnesses, none of the hundreds of calls received by a call centre hired by Halligen, 48, was listened to by Oakley investigators - and Halligen also bragged to his colleagues that he had executed a series of peculiar tactics to find Madeleine........
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Can you imagine .... as a parent of a missing child you are paying someone vast amounts of money out of a fund and you don't ring up and ask "What's the response on the hotline?"
Yet you want to know what the Leicester police have on file that may have been overlooked.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
From twitter:
"£85k has just bought the UK Government another 6 months of refusing FOI requests
on the grounds of an ongoing investigation."
And from facebewk:
A post by Andy Hopkins on CMOMM facebewk which is a bit too long to post:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/permalink/1895504484027369/
"£85k has just bought the UK Government another 6 months of refusing FOI requests
on the grounds of an ongoing investigation."
And from facebewk:
A post by Andy Hopkins on CMOMM facebewk which is a bit too long to post:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/permalink/1895504484027369/
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
sandancer wrote:Last roll of the dice !
What game are they playing ?
Cluedo ?
Monopoly ?
Isn't there a game called " craps " ?
Wikipedia..
Craps is a dice game in which the players make wagers on the outcome of the roll, or a series of rolls, of a pair of dice. Players may wager money against each other (playing "street craps", also known as "shooting dice" or "rolling dice") or a bank (playing "casino craps", also known as "table craps", or often just "craps"). Because it requires little equipment, "street craps" can be played in informal settings.
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That's a heck of a lot of craps - the edges of the dice must be a bit rounded by now, maybe that's were the rolling comes in?
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
At least the guesstimated figure of 85,000k has been confirmed by the Metropolitan Police and not just a media propagandist feed - even if they are not going to comment on operations. They gave that up when the populace started asking awkward questions.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
Why so much cash for Madeleine McCann search and not for my missing son asks Newcastle dad
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/much-cash-madeleine-mccann-search-12735693#ICID=sharebar_facebook
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Police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been ... $120,000 given to police in continued search for Madeleine McCann.
Madeleine McCann detectives search for former Portuguese resort worker who may have ... - New Zealand Herald
Madeleine McCann cops hunting resort worker overs fears he 'kept secrets' from local police - Birmingham Mail
Maddie McCann: Abduction theories blasted as 'ridiculous' by US crime expert - 9news.com.au
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Madeleine McCann cops hunt worker at resort as they fear he 'kept secrets' from local police
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Police are hunting for a worker from the resort where Madeleine McCann vanished who they believe has clues about her disappearance.
Madeleine McCann detectives search for former resort worker who they claim 'kept secrets' from ... - Daily Mail
What Happened to Madeleine McCann? As the 10 Year Anniversary of Her Disappearance ... - US Weekly
Top cop tells Good Morning Britain that hunt for missing Madeleine McCann is a waste of taxpayers ... - The Sun
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World-wide coverage continuing...
'Last throw of the dice': Police funding extended to keep Madeleine McCann search alive as costs ...
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Police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have been ... $120,000 given to police in continued search for Madeleine McCann.
Madeleine McCann detectives search for former Portuguese resort worker who may have ... - New Zealand Herald
Madeleine McCann cops hunting resort worker overs fears he 'kept secrets' from local police - Birmingham Mail
Maddie McCann: Abduction theories blasted as 'ridiculous' by US crime expert - 9news.com.au
Full Coverage
Madeleine McCann cops hunt worker at resort as they fear he 'kept secrets' from local police
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Police are hunting for a worker from the resort where Madeleine McCann vanished who they believe has clues about her disappearance.
Madeleine McCann detectives search for former resort worker who they claim 'kept secrets' from ... - Daily Mail
What Happened to Madeleine McCann? As the 10 Year Anniversary of Her Disappearance ... - US Weekly
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
Has the resort worker gone to live in the jungle?
A lot of hunting going on.
They could just ask the PJ where he is.
A lot of hunting going on.
They could just ask the PJ where he is.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
errrr I know I'm a bit fick at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
I think it's just another in the series of "How rediculous a story can we tell and get away with? ... delaying a few more months in the process.
...especially when David Payne said he did have some more to say but not on "this forum" when talking to police... who answered "OK"....can we believe that answer? Well, yes, as quizzing the McCanns and tapas members is off limits. Did we ever get an answer as to why he rang the child protection agency just before midnight on 03-05-07?
I would listen to another 50 errrs and ummms to get to the truth.
...especially when David Payne said he did have some more to say but not on "this forum" when talking to police... who answered "OK"....can we believe that answer? Well, yes, as quizzing the McCanns and tapas members is off limits. Did we ever get an answer as to why he rang the child protection agency just before midnight on 03-05-07?
I would listen to another 50 errrs and ummms to get to the truth.
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Re: OPERATION GRANGE GIVEN £85,000 FOR ANOTHER 6 MONTHS
The thought police?plebgate wrote:errrr I know I'm a bit fick 8at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
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I like it Mirage ha ha, but maybe it's about time they started thinking about the Supreme Court ruling and how that might affect their line of thinking?Mirage wrote:The thought police?plebgate wrote:errrr I know I'm a bit fick 8at times but how do they know this man kept secrets from the local police?
A secret is just that - who would know these secrets exist other than this man?
My 'ead as gone, yet again. EH.
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