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Post by PeterMac 02.05.15 10:35

This is beyond belief.   I thought it was an old article, but no.  It is dated 2/5/15

Madeleine Police Probe More Break-Ins
Detectives are following a new line of inquiry, ahead of the eighth anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.
Saturday 02 May 2015

Madeleine disappeared eight years ago during a family holiday
By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent

British detectives searching for Madeleine McCann have discovered more of the holiday apartment burglaries they believe hold the key to solving the case.
They had been investigating 18 break-ins in which intruders entered the bedrooms of young, mostly British girls.
Now they are probing 28 such burglaries, Sky News has learned.
Forensic evidence is being tested against findings from the apartment from where Madeleine vanished eight years ago.
The development in the Scotland Yard investigation is revealed by authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan in a new edition of their recent book Looking For Madeleine.
Summers said: "Our source told us that after stumbling across 18 burglaries last year, they have now discovered a total of 28 in the area of Praia da Luz in the years around 2007 when Madeleine disappeared.
"It gives them a much better chance of matching evidence against forensics from the McCann apartment.
"I was told there was great sensitivity around this forensic testing, nobody wants to discuss it, but they are making progress and believe the case is solvable."
The author said in the past few days the Home Office had agreed to continue its controversial funding of the British investigation which has now cost more than £10m.
Summers said: "Officials meet the police every three months to review spending and only last week told them there was no financial or political pressure to cut back."
Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from the family's rented holiday apartment on 3 May eight years ago. It's thought she was abducted.
Portuguese police abandoned their investigation after 15 months without establishing any clues to the mystery and for three years there was no official search for Madeleine.
With Home Office backing, Scotland Yard began a review of evidence in 2011 and then launched a full-scale investigation two years ago.
The London branch leader of the police union the Police Federation said recently that funding of the investigation could not be justified in the wake of continuing public spending cuts which have hit all forces.
Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann have said they are "more driven than ever" to continue the search for their daughter.


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1  This is based on information from Winters and Goose . . . !     NOT, repeat NOT from Sky sources or investigation
2  There WERE forensic findings in the apartment, like the ones from the car that Brunt told the world were 100% match to Madeleine !

3  Oh, forget it !   Since there is no date for the interview between Brunt and Winters the comment "The author said in the past few days" is totally meaningless.  And since this refers to a new edition of a book, we can suppose it is more than a year out of date.
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Post by Bishop Brennan 02.05.15 11:50

As the whitewash offensive continues, we also have this long diatribe in the Telegraph penned by Summers and Swan (who have now given up all pretence of being objective, and have embraced their role as the official Documenters of the Whitewash).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11576515/No-one-has-the-right-to-take-away-a-parents-hope.html

This latest onslaught, to publicise a new edition of the S&S book, was clearly held back until after the Lisbon verdict. Another classic example of how very well-orchestrated is this modern-day whitewash. It truly is a masterpiece in its use of multiple media outlets and its apparent ability to influence judicial matters and 'independent' journalists. And it's all going very nicely to plan.

I wonder, is there anyone who truly believes (rather than desperately hopes) that SY are going to one day appear over the horizon brandishing arrest warrants for the T9 ? Lisbon could possibly, just possibly, have turned the tide, but instead a giant wave has swept over the beach taking out everybody in its path - Amaral, Brenda, the Portuguese Justice System, and the entire UK media. The sight of Brunt, Summers and Swan surfing on top of that wave just makes it sickening to behold.


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Post by Bishop Brennan 02.05.15 12:03

Here's just a snippet from the Telegraph piece.  Take your blood pressure meds BEFORE reading plz:

There has been a development in one significant area. The Met had said previously that it was studying 18 incidents in the vicinity of Praia da Luz in which an intruder had broken into properties housing British families between 2002 and 2010 – well after Madeleine’s disappearance. That number has now risen and police are analysing as many as 28 episodes.

“The offences are not all the same,” a source told us. “Some involve not little children but teenagers or young women . . . But there are similarities. We’re seeing a sort of consistent theme. Perhaps there is a burglar, a thief, who’s also got a weakness for this sort of thing. We don’t know. We’re not saying all these offences are definitely linked, but there’s potential here.

If we dig down into those incidents and find out who’s responsible, if we find that a single person is responsible for a number, if not all, of the events . . . Who knows, that same person may have been responsible for Madeleine McCann’s disappearance
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Have you ever read such utter, utter nonsense?  Unsourced garbage presented as breakthrough direct from the McCann PR team - of which S&S have now become integral and unapologetic members.
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Post by Tony Bennett 02.05.15 12:18

Here is the entire Summers & Swan piece:

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'No one has the right to take away a parent's hope'

In an exclusive extract from the updated edition of their book Looking for Madeleine, award-winning investigative journalists Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan report on the current developments in the Madeleine McCann case




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Madeleine McCann



by Anthony Summers, and Robynn Swan
7:05AM BST 02 May 2015



Last August, a group of 10 “concerned citizens” wrote to the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, alerting him to “an appalling campaign of abuse directed at the parents and wider family of Madeleine McCann”.

None of the authors of the letter was related to or even knew Kate and Gerry McCann. It was, rather, they said, the behaviour of an army of online “haters” in recent months that decided them to turn to law enforcement. The abuses against the McCanns had “raged for over seven years now, but have lately become worse”.

As the McCanns this weekend mark the eighth anniversary of the disappearance of their three-year-old daughter from the family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal, the daily attacks from trolls on line continue. Yet the police yesterday ruled out taking any action. In a reply to the “concerned citizens”, Roger Bannister, the Assistant Chief Constable of the Leicestershire force – asked by Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe to look into the issues they had raised – wrote that, on the advice of the Director of Public Prosecutions, the evidence submitted of the abuse the McCanns had faced that had been “did not reach the evidential threshold for a successful prosecution”.

Earlier this week, though, there had been more encouraging news for the McCanns when a Portuguese court ruled - after six years - that Goncalo Amaral, the detective who initially led the Portuguese investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance had libelled the couple. It ordered him to pay them £440,000 in damages. In his best-selling book, The Truth of the Lie, translated into six languages, Amaral suggested that Madeleine died in the family’s holiday apartment, and that her parents were in some way responsible for her death.

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Kate and Gerry McCann (REUTERS/Darren Staples)

In a statement released on Friday, Kate McCann reiterated the couple’s committment to finding their daughter. ‘‘I’m more driven than ever to continue the search for Madeleine and to help other families who face the pain of a child being missing,’’ she said at the launch of a charity bike ride to raise funds for Missing People.

The hating of the McCanns began early. Cruel, anonymous letters started to arrive soon after Madeleine went missing. One correspondent claimed to know that the three-year-old was being tortured and that her parents were responsible, another that she was dead and buried. Back home in Leicestershire without their daughter that first Christmas, the McCanns received a card that read: “You ******* thieving bastards. Your brat is dead because of your drunken arrogance . . . If you have any shame you would accept full responsibility for your daughter’s disappearance . . . You are scum.”

The couple have also received death threats.

There is, of course, absolutely no evidence at all to support the drip feed of allegations on the Internet about the McCanns’ guilt. And research for our book Looking for Madeleine found nothing to contradict the official line.

Madeleine McCann: 'I listened for 15 seconds and knew they were innocent’

Madeleine McCann latest: are police any closer to knowing the truth?

In the years since the disappearance of Madeleine, the rise and rise of social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter has allowed many out-and-out foes of the couple to continue to pour out their poison. They can connect more easily than ever before with like-minded individuals, often anonymously, and this is outpacing law enforcement’s ability to police it.

Most troubling are the posts that have threatened violence against them. “Friends” in one Facebook exchange “jokingly” suggested the fate they wished upon the McCanns. Friend One suggested someone should “shoot the ****ers”. Friend Two, a female, declared that “these 2 should burn in hell”. Friend Three said he would “supply the petrol . . .” Friend Four, who claimed elsewhere that he attended gym classes with Kate and Gerry, babbled about being able to dig out “a box of Swan Vesta” matches.

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Twitter posts also come from people who say they live near the McCanns. One suggested she would “nip round” to their house where they live with their ten year old twins with “handcuffs . . . pass the twins to a loving family and then lynch ’em!!” There was also: “I’m in the mood for some waterboarding, who’s first K or G?”

The trolling reached a crisis point in July last year when an anti-McCann Facebook page posted a photograph of the McCanns’ Sean and Amelie, at the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.

In their September letter to the Met, one of the ‘‘concerned citizens’’ wrote: “It will only take one mentally unstable person to act out on the fantasies of assaulting the McCanns or contacting their twins, or one pathetic soul seeking praise and affirmation. I personally cannot have it on my conscience that I didn’t at least try to bring these activities to the attention of the police . . . No family should live in permanent fear.”

It was a month after the complaint had been submitted to the Met, Sky News correspondent Martin Brunt conducted a doorstep interview with the woman who – under the username @sweepyface – had authored many anti- McCann postings on Twitter. She was not named in his report, but acknowledged having posted the messages, and insisted that she was “entitled” to do so.

Following the broadcast, @sweepyface was quickly identified as 63-year-old Brenda Leyland, a divorced mother of two sons, who lived within 15 miles of the McCanns’ home. It was reported that she had sent more than 4000 tweets since 2010, almost all of them about the McCanns. On October 4, two days after the footage featuring her had run, Leyland was found dead in a room at a hotel on the outskirts of Leicester. At the inquest, one of her sons said his mother had a background of mental illness and had “always struggled with depression”. Her Twitter record for the final weeks of her life indicates that she had sent some 600 tweets, most of them barbs aimed at the McCanns and their defenders, whom she characterised as “shills” – stooges – or “***tards”. She was amused, too, by the fantasy that people who supported the McCanns might “do a Jonestown” and commit mass suicide.
 
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Nine days before her death, Leyland tweeted: “I ‘hate’ cruelty, liars, those who profit from an others [sic] tragedy, ergo my ‘hate for Kate and Gerry’ is justified . . . ‘hate’ [is] a powerful emotion, it is a compliment to Maddie that we ‘hate’ her parents who betrayed her.”

The advice of the DPP and the decision by Leicestershire police not to pursue action agains those who persecute the McCanns online will, no doubt, lead to renewed abuse. In the meantime, the McCanns must soldier on, their focus as ever the search for Madeleine. Over the past 12 months, Scotland Yard has announced “operational activity’’ in Portugal”, digging in and around Praia da Luz. A number of witnesses have been questioned.

There has been a development in one significant area. The Met had said previously that it was studying 18 incidents in the vicinity of Praia da Luz in which an intruder had broken into properties housing British families between 2002 and 2010 – well after Madeleine’s disappearance. That number has now risen and police are analysing as many as 28 episodes.

“The offences are not all the same,” a source told us. “Some involve not little children but teenagers or young women . . . But there are similarities. We’re seeing a sort of consistent theme. Perhaps there is a burglar, a thief, who’s also got a weakness for this sort of thing. We don’t know. We’re not saying all these offences are definitely linked, but there’s potential here.

“If we dig down into those incidents and find out who’s responsible, if we find that a single person is responsible for a number, if not all, of the events . . . Who knows, that same person may have been responsible for Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.”

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Forensic evidence - a fingerprint or DNA lying forgotten in a police exhibit store in the Algarve - remians the best hope of a conclusion to this case.

This week, a senior source on the Scotland Yard investigation carefully said, “no comment” when pressed as to whether there is possible progress on the forensic front. Carefully, too, he has said there is still progress and that the case is “solvable”.

And we believe the McCanns are right to hope. The head of the US-based International Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Ernie Allen, regards their tenacity as “admirable” and “inspiring”. As he once told another grieving parent, “there are many scenarios under which your child could still be alive…We keep finding abducted children who have been missing for years.”

In South Africa in February, a child was found alive and well – having been abducted as a baby and been missing for seventeen years. She is now reunited with her parents. “No one has the right,” said Allen, “ to take away a parent’s hope.

COMMENTS PUBLISHED ONLINE BY THE TELEGRAPH SO FAR IN RESPONSE TO THIS ARTICLE -Before they are whoosh-clunked:

Surfmonkey - 2 minutes ago

We are seeing establishment cover-ups being brought to light on a daily basis - this in my opinion, is another one. The Portuguese and British police investigation was in agreement and was working well until political interference from Gordon Brown and his Portuguese counterpart put a stop to it. The case files made public, and there are files held back, show a different story to that portrayed by UK media - just who or what is really being protected?

Philip Tann - 21 minutes ago

'No one has the right to take away a parent's hope', is that meant to be a joke?, in the words of Gerry himself after being questioned about the sniffer dogs "Sniffer dogs are incredibly unreliable!", said with a massive smirk on his face!, thing is they're not!, make of that what you may!!

Philip Tann - 28 minutes ago

So much lies & slurs aimed at anyone who questions the version of events thrust down our throats!, all you need to do is look at the PJ files to see the evidence they desperately don't want you to see, hence the court actions against Goncalo Amaral!, when is all this rot going to end?, how long does Madeleine have to wait for justice to be done?!!!!

Philip Tann - 32 minutes ago 

OMG!! how much more lies & spin do we have to put up with?!!!, the 'haters' as you call them, are people who want Madeleine to get justice!. apartment 5A, along with the McCanns hire car & Kate's clothes, all reeked of Cadaver. the McCanns refused to answer questions & also refused to take part in a reconstruction, what conclusion can you come to with all that evidence?!!!, just so tired of people being silenced!!!

Boghound - 35 minutes ago

Oh please give it a rest. If this had happened in the UK the McCanns would have been "hung drawn and quartered" for leaving a child of that age alone whilst the they went out to wine and dine.

Elinor Quinn - 2 hours ago

Brenda Leyland is dead. She did nothing criminal. Do not cause any more distress to her family. It cannot benefit the McCanns in any way. There were far worse tweets than hers, but of course she was small and inoffensive and an easy target.

robert moore - 2 hours ago

was it because they were doctors that there were not arrested for leaving a child alone.....as ordinary people like me would have been for sure...me father of 4

Michael Shaw - 3 hours ago

Oh dear more inaccuracy and spin. It was NOT a libel trial. The media should hang it's collective head in shame for the outright lies and spin they have employed this week

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COMMENT BY T.B.:

I am wondering how Jenny Kleeman's film for the Guardian will differ from this?

No evidence the parents are guilty, still more evidence of a burglar-cum-abductor-cum-murdererer-cum-Smithman, and plenty of bile about vile anti-McCann trolls and bitches.

What more can Kleeman say than Summers and Swan have now said?

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 13:00

[quote="PeterMac"]This is beyond belief.   I thought it was an old article, but no.  It is dated 2/5/15


The development in the Scotland Yard investigation is revealed by authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan in a new edition of their recent book Looking For Madeleine.
Summers said: "Our source told us that after stumbling across 18 burglaries last year, they have now discovered a total of 28 in the area of Praia da Luz in the years around 2007 when Madeleine disappeared.
"It gives them a much better chance of matching evidence against forensics from the McCann apartment.
"I was told there was great sensitivity around this forensic testing, nobody wants to discuss it, but they are making progress and believe the case is solvable."

The author said in the past few days the Home Office had agreed to continue its controversial funding of the British investigation which has now cost more than £10m.
Summers said: "Officials meet the police every three months to review spending and only last week told them there was no financial or political pressure to cut back."

More than beyond belief !
Are people expected to believe that OG or Home Office would leak operational details to S&S.
It's impossible for S&S to know all that, unless it was leaked to him. Or he is LYING.
Either way, there is cause for complain to the Press or IPCC.
Had the press verified S&S story or just blind quoting him?
If he's not lying, then here is cause to complain to IPCC about the professionalism of Police - leaking to strangers.





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Post by PeterMac 02.05.15 13:09

I expect Grange are watching closely !


But what a fascinating and revealing set of comments - ALLOWED !
The Indie has also allowed some

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Post by sar 02.05.15 13:15

Bishop Brennan wrote:As the whitewash offensive continues, we also have this long diatribe in the Telegraph penned by Summers and Swan (who have now given up all pretence of being objective, and have embraced their role as the official Documenters of the Whitewash).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11576515/No-one-has-the-right-to-take-away-a-parents-hope.html

This latest onslaught, to publicise a new edition of the S&S book, was clearly held back until after the Lisbon verdict.  Another classic example of how very well-orchestrated is this modern-day whitewash.  It truly is a masterpiece in its use of multiple media outlets and its apparent ability to influence judicial matters and 'independent' journalists.  And it's all going very nicely to plan.

I wonder, is there anyone who truly believes (rather than desperately hopes) that SY are going to one day appear over the horizon brandishing arrest warrants for the T9  ?  Lisbon could possibly, just possibly, have turned the tide, but instead a giant wave has swept over the beach taking out everybody in its path - Amaral, Brenda, the Portuguese Justice System, and the entire UK media.   The sight of Brunt, Summers and Swan surfing on top of that wave just makes it sickening to behold.


[And it's all going very nicely to plan.]

+1 Bishop Brennan, "stage management" is how I describe it.  Perhaps orchestration?
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Post by PeterMac 02.05.15 13:17

There's aaabsolutely no eeevvidence to suggest the McCanns have come to any harm as a result of online commentary
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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 13:17

Bishop Brennan wrote:
The sight of Brunt, Summers and Swan surfing on top of that wave just makes it sickening to behold.

There can be no doubt that Martin Brunt, Jim Gamble, S&S are all in this together.

By coming out at this time, supplying all these detailed info regarding OG's operation and dossiers, S&S have effectively reaffirmed people's belief his book is endorsed by the Mcs and he is still in close contact with the McCanns.

How else would he know details of trollings and threats to the Mcs down to what the first instance threat was and and so on? And, how else would he know 10 concerned people compiled the dossiers so on and so forth?

It's a dead giveaway S&S are just Mclackies living inside McCanns pockets and doing their biddings.

If anyone still have doubts his book is anything but an objective independent account, there can be no doubt whatsoever now his book is definitively a "ghost" account, approved and probably edited by the Mcs.


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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 13:32

PeterMac wrote:I expect Grange are watching closely !


But what a fascinating and revealing set of comments - ALLOWED !
The Indie has also allowed some


There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that S&S have been harmed by online commentaries either.

As a matter of fact, S&S put themselves out there, and are asking for it.

You'd think Clearance Mitchell is dead. And S&S have become Mcs official mouthpiece.
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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 13:41

PeterMac wrote:

3  Oh, forget it !   Since there is no date for the interview between Brunt and Winters the comment "The author said in the past few days" is totally meaningless.  And since this refers to a new edition of a book, we can suppose it is more than a year out of date.

The Sale of the Book must have been a complete flop, if they have to use every opportunity they can to replug their book.  The libel verdict gives them a perfect chance to suck up to the Mcinnocents.
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Post by ChippyM 02.05.15 14:11

"media platforms like Facebook and Twitter has allowed many out-and-out foes of the couple to continue to pour out their poison. They can connect more easily than ever before with like-minded individuals, often anonymously, and this is outpacing law enforcement’s ability to police it.

Most troubling are the posts that have threatened violence against them. “Friends” in one Facebook exchange “jokingly” suggested the fate they wished upon the McCanns. Friend One suggested someone should “shoot the ****ers”. Friend Two, a female, declared that “these 2 should burn in hell”. Friend Three said he would “supply the petrol . . .” Friend Four, who claimed elsewhere that he attended gym classes with Kate and Gerry, babbled about being able to dig out “a box of Swan Vesta” matches."


 Are these people that dense?!

   A credible threat such as 'I'm coming round to your house to murder/ rape you etc and I know where you live' is covered under legislation and so it should be.  Hoping or joking about what you might want to happen to someone is not a crime, however distasteful it may be.

  If people say that they want to 'kill' their boss, or an annoying driver that gets in their way in a moment of frustration should they be frogmarched to the nearest police station to face interrogation? ..no of course not but some people would like us to think some subjects or people are off limits and nothing negative can ever be expressed about them.

   Law enforcement are not able to police it because about 99% of what is written in NOT A CRIME!
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Post by PeterMac 02.05.15 14:28

"The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are "delighted" with the judge's verdict."
The above quote was from a couple of days ago.

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DELIGHTED!!!  They have been delighted from day 2, lollipops and laughing, jogging, balloons outside the church . .
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Post by jeanmonroe 02.05.15 16:55

Crunt must be 'spitting feathers'!

How dare OG Maddie cop tell S&S 'something' before him.

(maybe they 'paid' more for the new 'intell' from OG than S News were prepared to pay)

Anyway he won't be too 'bovvered', he's been 'plugging' their book, on S News, all day.

"F**k that other KM having her kid, when everybody knows that this should be the REAL KM's 'weekend'"

"Wally, Wally, we've found ANOTHER load of burglators! Andy seems to have missed them, during his 3 1/2 years, here. Shall i inform Europol, Interpol and those 'nasty' PJ in Portugal?"

"Er, NAHHHHHH, but you can inform S&S, as they are always the FIRST people we tell, about our OG ongoing 'secret' operational activity". We don't want to give the 'heads up' to our new burglators, do we? They might do a runner!"

"Ok Wally, er, just one thing, how many mostly young, British girls, were 'abducted' by our previous 18 wrong 'uns because there dosen't seem to be any 'abducted' girls connected to our new batch of 10 wrong 'uns'

"Er, NONE, as far as i know, why?"

"None? hmmm ok, everyone here knows you're the biggest Wally, at OG, so what you say has gotta be right, innit?"

"Shall i book the next 'jolly' tickets, to Portugal?"

"OH YEAH!"
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Post by j.rob 02.05.15 17:33

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The Gaspers were right about you and David Payne, weren't they?


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"I asked Gerry apprehensively if he'd had any really horrible thoughts or visions of Madeleine. He nodded. Haltingly, I told him about the awful pictures that scrolled through my head of her body, her perfect little genitals torn apart. Although I knew I had to share this burden, just raising the subject out loud to someone else, especially even Gerry, was excruciating. Admitting the existence of these images somehow confirmed them as a real possibility, and with that confirmation came renewed waves of fear......I felt as though I'd embarked on a slow, painful death. Just imagining your child, any child, like this is agonizing and unless such thoughts have any basis in reality it is normal and understandable to banish them from your mind.....I wished I could do that. The pictures I saw of our Madeleine no sane human being would want in her head, but they were in mine. I simply couldn't rid myself of these evil scenes in the early days and weeks."


(Pages 129 and 130 Madeleine by Kate McCann)
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Post by sonic72 02.05.15 18:12

Brunt is a terrible 'reporter' if you can call it that!

Lies for cash. I bet he's made a 'mint' from telling lies.
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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 18:16

In all my life, I've never come across joint-efforts of 2 nations Police Force probing and chasing innumerable BURGLARS hoping to net ABDUCTOR.

The notion is ludicrous !

This news can only come from the Rothley Burglars HQ !

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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 18:21

sonic72 wrote:Brunt is a terrible 'reporter' if you can call it that!

Lies for cash. I bet he's made a 'mint' from telling lies.

He is back in zeal on the Mcs case, post Brenda Leyland, as if nothing happened.

You'd think after Brenda Leyland he'd show remorse and give it a break from covering the Mcs backs, but the way he's drawn to the Mcs like moth to fire you'd think he's beholden to them !
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Post by aiyoyo 02.05.15 22:28

PeterMac wrote:"The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are "delighted" with the judge's verdict."
The above quote was from a couple of days ago.

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DELIGHTED!!!  They have been delighted from day 2, lollipops and laughing, jogging, balloons outside the church . .

They are gloating far too soon. Their delights at the Judge's verdict may turn out to be a curse.
A double edge sword if you like in that if they go to trial, they can't claim unfair exposure prejudiced their case.

Optimists believe the madness in the judge's inventive method - writing up an essay on jurisprudence - is simply excuse to come up with such a verdict, on someone's behest, to keep things on the even keel for OG future purpose.

I believe the Judge's method is mad. Do I believe it was done on behest, on probability, I'd say not, but who knows ?






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Post by lj 03.05.15 2:04

Bishop Brennan wrote:As the whitewash offensive continues, we also have this long diatribe in the Telegraph penned by Summers and Swan (who have now given up all pretence of being objective, and have embraced their role as the official Documenters of the Whitewash).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/11576515/No-one-has-the-right-to-take-away-a-parents-hope.html

This latest onslaught, to publicise a new edition of the S&S book, was clearly held back until after the Lisbon verdict.  Another classic example of how very well-orchestrated is this modern-day whitewash.  It truly is a masterpiece in its use of multiple media outlets and its apparent ability to influence judicial matters and 'independent' journalists.  And it's all going very nicely to plan.

I wonder, is there anyone who truly believes (rather than desperately hopes) that SY are going to one day appear over the horizon brandishing arrest warrants for the T9  ?  Lisbon could possibly, just possibly, have turned the tide, but instead a giant wave has swept over the beach taking out everybody in its path - Amaral, Brenda, the Portuguese Justice System, and the entire UK media.   The sight of Brunt, Summers and Swan surfing on top of that wave just makes it sickening to behold.


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Post by lj 03.05.15 2:07

PeterMac wrote:"The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are "delighted" with the judge's verdict."
The above quote was from a couple of days ago.

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DELIGHTED!!!  They have been delighted from day 2, lollipops and laughing, jogging, balloons outside the church . .
Delighted by the verdict the dogs findings were proven. 
Now that's a first!

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Post by jeanmonroe 03.05.15 12:46

With all this 'chatter' from MET OG to S&S about 'forensics', imo, SOMEBODY 'is' going to get their 'collar felt' and be totally 'stitched/fitted' up.

The MET have previous 'form' on magically finding 'forensics', on 'prime suspects' haven't they?

There was a 'reason' OG 'officers', alone, wanted to 'search' suspects, 'abodes'.

Without PJ officers, being there.

Wally, according to Summers, IS 'carrying' right on where Redwood left off!

SEAMLESS!

Anyone care to 'guess' what 'plugger' Crunt's % of S&S book 'sales' are for his pension pot?



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Post by notlongnow 03.05.15 12:53

Unless that person agrees to be stiched up or is dead,it will be one of the most stupid ideas for them to do.
It would backfire big time.
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Post by jeanmonroe 03.05.15 13:19

notlongnow wrote:Unless that person agrees to be stiched up or is dead, it will be one of the most stupid ideas for them to do.
It would backfire big time.

Along the lines of 'BG DID kill JD' because 'we 'found' forensics (gun powder) in his clothing!'

THAT worked a 'treat', for the MET, didn't it?

MET = DS H Campbell

The SAME DS who 'led' OG for years!
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Post by Mirage 02.05.16 11:31

There are a few threads on Martin Brunt and so I was reluctant to open another. However, I feel this man has slipped off the radar and I want to highlight the transcripts of telephone calls he made to Murat on 15th May and 26th May 2007, respectively. They can be found on PJ files

 There are a number of issues around Brunt that need addressing and you need to go right back to these telephone calls to Murat IMO to track the leitmotif of Brunt throughout this case from 2007 to the present day, culminating in his "troll dossier".

For the moment I want to look at this  15 May phone call by Brunt to Murat. I am just letting the contents sink in again, as I have not looked at it for a long time. I was going to bold some dialogue but there came a point where the phrases that merited it were too many.

My question, after reading it, is as follows:
Is it a journalist's role to find legal support for an arguido?


For context, RM has just been made arguido at the time of the first call of May 15. MB talks to JM first and discovers RM is a little depressed at being made arguido After the preamble RM comes to the phone.

RM: Hello Martin.

MB: Hello Robert.

RM: Your number didnt show up, thats why I didn't know who it was...


MB: Oh my, I didn't send you my number...

RM: Thats OK.

MB: Well, I will see if I mange not to lose this one, if I can find the tool (laughs).

RM: (Inaudible).

MB: Ok we will try, I mean I have not seen it yet...But we will try to expl...The police say or was it the local journalists who say you should be treated as an arguido.

RM: That he is a suspect, basically..

MB: Yes, well, even so...given the tone of the interrogation..

RM: Hmmm.

MB: And the fact of being free which says a lot about the interest in you, eh..

RM: That is the same as finishing me off...It was not me...I didnt do anything..and now I am literally...

MB: Ok, I know, I think...

RM: It always on when I turn the TV on and even now...

MB: Yes...well it would be better to turn it off..

RM: Really. To have been quiet was the best thing I could have done.

MB: Yes.

RM: But when I turn the television on I think , eh...They are going to finish me off completely, they are finishing me off...

MB: Ok, ok I'm going to tell you that...

RM: In order to have an idea..

MB: I?ll tell you what we are going to do.

RM: Did you talk to the lawyer?

MB: Two things! We talked to the Sky Lawyer...

RM: Right.

MB: Whos is of the opinion that according to what you signed you reported your work as being that of a translator.

RM: Certainly, as far as... the thing is that is was...Let me ..eh...it probably is ...oh!...

MB: Go on, continue...





  RM: We talked, we talked to a Sky lawyer, but the problem with the Sky lawyer is that he is English!

MB: Yes...No, no, no... he is or lawyer.

RM: Hmmm.

MB: And can you see, he said what it seemed to be to him...

RM: Hmmm?

MB: according to his understanding.

RM: According to his understanding, exactly...

MB: And now we are reluctant to talk to the lawyer who contacted you.

RM: That riight. OK.

MB: We do not know him.

RM: OK.

MB: And you do not know him, well you dont?

RM: Exactly, thats right. I do not know him, mate.

MB: And we do not know where he came from or what his credibility is.

RM: Yes.
MB: And they told us that the police were going to play games with false leads and that was why. And who knows whether he is who he says he is?

RM: Thats right. OK.

MB: And he could be trying to test you out or hoping that we pass him some information.

RM: Certainly.

MB: Eh...we know that you suspect that your calls are being listened to, because of this...

RM: Humm, hmmm.

MB: Right? Because of this reason we are very reluctant because we do not know him and you do not know him.

RM: But however...I mean the best option you have to come clean with this, would probably be to go with a lawyer from Lisbon. Eh...somebody...with someone from up there. Not from the Algarve. It would have to be someone from Lisbon. Is that OK?

MB: Thats ok, I will try to arrange for someone from there...but..

RM: OK!

MB: But our position in relation to all this, for the moment, as I has explained previously, is that we consider ourselves to be very important ? and I think it was your opinion initially ? to do something finally that would manage to be on your side...

RM: Yes and that would not lead to my being detained immediately!

MB: Of course, of course! And you know, many of the things that you told me were not attributed to me...I understand and I don?t want to enter into all those details and we did not do anything since I left you...

RM: No, no, no, no...

MB: I am sure that you understand.

RM: Yes, yes! Yes.

MB: And if there is anything that better clarifies, that you think you could say, that could also be used in the future.

RM: Of course.

MB: You know, you could quote Sky sources and others..

RM: Yes that would be perfect. That would be just perfect!

MB: But I think it is important that you should have the media there and if we could appear, briefly, and make statements in these terms: ?I was questioned, it was a vague questioning, I was not asked direct questions about Madeleine? and afterwards you explain to me how you felt that they made you a scape goat, that you have nothing to hide, even if your computer is analysed. And that at the end of the day you will be absolved and they will find the true abductor/kidnapper.

RM: We could.. you could.. Lets first look at this with a Portuguese lawyer, we will won't we?

MB: Yes...No...

RM: Are you going to do this?

MB: I will do my best to arrange for one now...

RM: Yes.

MB: But, but ...independently of what the lawyer thinks, I think that this is the clearest option. But we will have to try to find someone who.....

RM: Yes, I think this is the simplest. Can you confirm this. I am here having a family discussion to see what they think...

MB: Ah yes. Of course I will. But I am talking about making very clear statements.

RM: Yes, ok!

MB: That they do not enter into many details but into the way you can get your message across.

RM: Get it across..OK:

MB: That you give your version of the events, given that the only version of events is vague and...

RM: Yes, yes.


MB: And that the two local journalists and everyone are very against you...and that there is nobody with the exception of my interview with Sally...

RM: Yes?

MB: There has nobody who has spoken in favour of Robert Murat because of this...

RM: In fact of the many interviews given I have heard that there were some positive ones...people contradicting each other...

MB: Yes?


RM: They arrived and said....no, no...they have been very positive about this...

MB: Of course. people from the area...

RM: People from here..Exactly, exactly...

MB: Inaudible

RM : exactly


MB: Who know what happened...


RM: Many people from the area said very positive things about this...about me, which is useful.

MB: Of course, well I will see what I can find and get back in touch with you.

RM: OK, Bye.

MB: And if we agree on this..

RM: Yes..

MB: And if we could agree to appear for 15 minutes..

RM: I never have any problem with making a statement..

MB: OK

RM: I have no problem whilst...Whilst I have the legal cover to do so. Because I dont want to end up in prison....(sigh)


MB: That would be the last thing we want...

RM: Firstly, for something I did not do and secondly for something that would break their contract rules...

MB: I understand that and I understand the sensitive nature of everything that we have been working with since we arrived here, so...

RM: Ok..

MB: Can I phone you again in half an hour?

RM: Good bye, thank you very much.

MB: Good bye.
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