Did they miss a crucial clue?

by suzyjohnson 25.10.15 21:37

Fiona Payne said she saw Kate McCann checking the twin's breathing on the night Madeleine disappeared. (Fiona's statement)

Kate McCann says she suspected that the twins, and presumably also Madeleine, were drugged by the abductor. (Kate's book)

Yet, the twins were not taken to a hospital where it may have been possible to establish exactly what the substance was..

And, in addition, it may have been possible to find out where an abductor could have obtained the drugs from.

Which, in turn, may have been a clue to who the abductor actually was.

by suzyjohnson 25.10.15 21:54

What I am wondering is, assuming that the McCanns are innocent of involvement in their daughter's disappearance, whether it's probable that they would miss the possibility of such a clue?

They are both doctors and there were four other doctors with them that night, they must have known whether it was possible to find out what the twins could have been drugged with?

by jeanmonroe 26.10.15 10:11

'Which, in turn, may have been a clue to who the abductor actually was.'
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WHAT 'abductor'?

The LP and 4 1/2 YEARS 'investigation' by 'elite, experienced, solely dedicated, priviledged' 38 full time police detectives and 'staff' at OG have not 'found' a 'scintilla of 'evidence' of an 'abduction' by ANY 'abductor'.

The police have only been 'told' there was an 'abduction' by only, ONLY, the 'abducted' child's OWN parents.

An 'abduction' that even the parents fellow holiday 'companions', R O'B, DP, have cast 'doubts' about.

by sami 26.10.15 10:42

Any parent who walks into a room in which they left three babies to find only two remain would demand the two are checked over by medics, least of all for sedatives. It was so obvious to them there was an abductor yet they waffle on about sedation of two virtually non walking, non talking babies, no other worries about what the abductor might have done to them enters their head or has them rushing to the nearest medical centre ?

What would be the purpose of wasting time sedating them anyway ? They were not going to climb out of their cots and walk over to the Tapas to call mom and dad, were they.

Actually, if they were that worried about sedation they could try to wake them up - I'm no fancy doctor, just a parent.

On the other hand, if one knew they had been sedated, knew what substance they had been sedated with, one might place their hand gently on their backs to check their breathing was "normal" and leave it at that.

by jeanmonroe 26.10.15 10:46

'Nothing' was 'missed', as the SIO of the PJ, correctly, imo, 'detected'.

by Liz Eagles 26.10.15 10:52

sami wrote:Any parent who walks into a room in which they left three babies to find only two remain would demand the two are checked over by medics, least of all for sedatives. It was so obvious to them there was an abductor yet they waffle on about sedation of two virtually non walking, non talking babies, no other worries about what the abductor might have done to them enters their head or has them rushing to the nearest medical centre ?

What would be the purpose of wasting time sedating them anyway ? They were not going to climb out of their cots and walk over to the Tapas to call mom and dad, were they.

Actually, if they were that worried about sedation they could try to wake them up - I'm no fancy doctor, just a parent.

On the other hand, if one knew they had been sedated, knew what substance they had been sedated with, one might place their hand gently on their backs to check their breathing was "normal" and leave it at that.

The twins were back in the creche the following morning.

by Rogue-a-Tory 26.10.15 11:06

aquila wrote:
sami wrote:Any parent who walks into a room in which they left three babies to find only two remain would demand the two are checked over by medics, least of all for sedatives. It was so obvious to them there was an abductor yet they waffle on about sedation of two virtually non walking, non talking babies, no other worries about what the abductor might have done to them enters their head or has them rushing to the nearest medical centre ?

What would be the purpose of wasting time sedating them anyway ? They were not going to climb out of their cots and walk over to the Tapas to call mom and dad, were they.

Actually, if they were that worried about sedation they could try to wake them up - I'm no fancy doctor, just a parent.

On the other hand, if one knew they had been sedated, knew what substance they had been sedated with, one might place their hand gently on their backs to check their breathing was "normal" and leave it at that.
The twins were back in the creche the following morning.

And despite there being an unidentified, crazed child abductor in & around PdL that could be hiding just about anywhere. Yep leave, your un-abducted children with total strangers yet again, which is just slightly better than leaving them for their 4 year old sibling to care for.

by jeanmonroe 26.10.15 11:10

The twins were back in the creche the following morning.
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With an 'unknown, uncaught' 'burglator' on the 'loose'!

Not 'only' the twins, 'back' in the creche, HOURS after the 'event' was it?

JW's ( 'went back to bed, after being told BY MO 'Madeleine has been 'abducted') child, MO's child.

How DID they (JW/MO) 'know' the burglator was not 'in cahoots' with 'someone' AT the 'creche'???

Rhetorical, 'probably'!

My 'kids' would have been 'kicking and screaming' CHAINED to my 'side' until 'we' were 'outta there' pdq!

by Ayniia 26.10.15 22:27

Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
aquila wrote:
sami wrote:Any parent who walks into a room in which they left three babies to find only two remain would demand the two are checked over by medics, least of all for sedatives. It was so obvious to them there was an abductor yet they waffle on about sedation of two virtually non walking, non talking babies, no other worries about what the abductor might have done to them enters their head or has them rushing to the nearest medical centre ?

What would be the purpose of wasting time sedating them anyway ? They were not going to climb out of their cots and walk over to the Tapas to call mom and dad, were they.

Actually, if they were that worried about sedation they could try to wake them up - I'm no fancy doctor, just a parent.

On the other hand, if one knew they had been sedated, knew what substance they had been sedated with, one might place their hand gently on their backs to check their breathing was "normal" and leave it at that.
The twins were back in the creche the following morning.
And despite there being an unidentified, crazed child abductor in & around PdL that could be hiding just about anywhere. Yep leave, your un-abducted children with total strangers yet again, which is just slightly better than leaving them for their 4 year old sibling to care for.

Next day?! Don't forget that upon finding Madeleine "missing" Kate LEFT the twins in the room to go get the other Tapas friends!!!

by ROSA 27.10.15 0:45

Ayniia wrote:
Rogue-a-Tory wrote:
aquila wrote:
sami wrote:Any parent who walks into a room in which they left three babies to find only two remain would demand the two are checked over by medics, least of all for sedatives. It was so obvious to them there was an abductor yet they waffle on about sedation of two virtually non walking, non talking babies, no other worries about what the abductor might have done to them enters their head or has them rushing to the nearest medical centre ?

What would be the purpose of wasting time sedating them anyway ? They were not going to climb out of their cots and walk over to the Tapas to call mom and dad, were they.

Actually, if they were that worried about sedation they could try to wake them up - I'm no fancy doctor, just a parent.

On the other hand, if one knew they had been sedated, knew what substance they had been sedated with, one might place their hand gently on their backs to check their breathing was "normal" and leave it at that.
The twins were back in the creche the following morning.
And despite there being an unidentified, crazed child abductor in & around PdL that could be hiding just about anywhere. Yep leave, your un-abducted children with total strangers yet again, which is just slightly better than leaving them for their 4 year old sibling to care for.

Next day?! Don't forget that upon finding Madeleine "missing" Kate LEFT the twins in the room to go get the other Tapas friends!!!

In reality Kate could of just alerted the rest of the group by using her phone but since this was all staged so Kate could run back to the bar yelling They've taken her Mrs

by jeanmonroe 27.10.15 12:02

Fiona Payne said she saw Kate McCann checking the twin's breathing on the night Madeleine disappeared. (Fiona's statement)
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Fiona Payne also 'said' ,and tried to claim, she was 5 years YOUNGER, than she 'actually' was, at the 'time' of LP 'interview'!

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'Okay. So I will ask you first of all to tell me a bit about yourself.....''

FP: Reply
'Okay. Erm, erm, I'm thirty, I'll work that out actually, I'm thirty-five years old....".

So, the VERY FIRST thing, Fiona is 'asked' about...............she LIES about! winkwink

NOT a 'good' start for a sworn 'statement', i suggest! laughat

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MORGAN: "I mean, Kate, do you ever have a day where this (Madeleine 'missing/abducted') doesn't consume you?"

K. MCCANN: " I don't think it consumes every minute as it did before. But certainly, you know, Madeleine's absence is there constantly. I mean, as Gerry said, although we do have lovely times with Sean and Emily, and although I've now reached that point where I will allow myself to take time out, and just relax and enjoy something."

WELL, THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN, KATE!

Hope Madeleine didn't 'read' THAT!

jta: 'highlights' the 'TOTAL' DIFFERENCE, in 'attitude' between KM and Kerry Needham, whose 'life' IS 'consumed' 24/7 trying/searching to find her son, Ben, dosen't it?.