Hobs' theory: What I believe may have happened to Madeleine McCann

23 Librae wrote:Lord Sleuth

I am quite new to researching this mystery myself so at the moment I wouldn't know a good theory from a bad one.

As for Brenda Leyland, I do think that was a suicide. Helium asphyxiation is not that uncommon, it is just not usually reported on along with a couple of other methods. People who use the helium method have usually done alot of research, you have to get the right bag, make sure you have the correct tubing etc. It is not a method you can just impulsively buy the materials for.

I would be certain she already had the materials long before she needed them as many people do who use gas methods. The doorstepping and abuse were the trigger. 

As for the Lolita photo, I can't quite get it out of my head and I do think there is something very important about it. I won't elaborate though. Was that photo released by the McCanns?

aquila wrote:

Phoebe wrote:Lord Sleuth, are you being serious? You actually believe Murat is an MI6 agent, that Madeleine died because the Pod. brothers had hired her from her parents to abuse in Freud's house. That the Tapas 9 went public claiming abduction because they feared  they would be killed off by government agents covering this up and that a Tapas member slipped out of Portugal by plane, having been tipped off by an M.P. You really, truly, seriously believe this?

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23 Librae wrote:aquila

It is not that uncommon trust me, they had to start adding small amounts of oxygen to the canisters (not the industrial ones), and yes alot of people commit suicide by inert gasses, usually out of a choice of three but helium is the most accessible. They also have done lots of research beforehand, they have to.

This is one area I do feel absolutely confident in talking about and you wouldn't believe half of what I know.

Many people with suicidal tendencies or chronic illnesses can have their method stashed and planned years in advance with no intention of using it until absolutely necessary.

This isn't really the place for such discussions though but thanks for your reply, I will 'bugger off' now.

23 Librae wrote:aquila

It is not that uncommon trust me, they had to start adding small amounts of oxygen to the canisters (not the industrial ones), and yes alot of people commit suicide by inert gasses, usually out of a choice of three but helium is the most accessible. They also have done lots of research beforehand, they have to.

This is one area I do feel absolutely confident in talking about and you wouldn't believe half of what I know.

Many people with suicidal tendencies or chronic illnesses can have their method stashed and planned years in advance with no intention of using it until absolutely necessary.

This isn't really the place for such discussions though but thanks for your reply, I will 'bugger off' now.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

23 Librae wrote:aquila

It is not that uncommon trust me, they had to start adding small amounts of oxygen to the canisters (not the industrial ones), and yes alot of people commit suicide by inert gasses, usually out of a choice of three but helium is the most accessible. They also have done lots of research beforehand, they have to.

This is one area I do feel absolutely confident in talking about and you wouldn't believe half of what I know.

Many people with suicidal tendencies or chronic illnesses can have their method stashed and planned years in advance with no intention of using it until absolutely necessary.

This isn't really the place for such discussions though but thanks for your reply, I will 'bugger off' now.

I believe that.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

23 Librae wrote:aquila

It is not that uncommon trust me, they had to start adding small amounts of oxygen to the canisters (not the industrial ones), and yes alot of people commit suicide by inert gasses, usually out of a choice of three but helium is the most accessible. They also have done lots of research beforehand, they have to.

This is one area I do feel absolutely confident in talking about and you wouldn't believe half of what I know.

Many people with suicidal tendencies or chronic illnesses can have their method stashed and planned years in advance with no intention of using it until absolutely necessary.

This isn't really the place for such discussions though but thanks for your reply, I will 'bugger off' now.

I believe that.

aquila wrote:I'm non-plussed here. Do you think Brenda Leyland was suicidal, had a long laid plan to commit suicide and the trigger was being outed by Sky News?

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

I wasn't suggesting this was what Brenda did.

I was saying that I believe some suicidal people do that, they do research and plan.

And Nina was agreeing with me.

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That's a very adventurous first post for a newcomer - may I ask, are you being serious?  I'm not responding by quote as I don't consider your comments to be worthy of repetition.

Please be advised, CMoMM does not encourage baseless theorizing or speculation.  If you have genuine reason to believe what you say has any foundation, backed by evidence, then it would be most helpful if you could provide the detail and explain your rationale.

If not, then perhaps your particular sense of humour, or should I say diversion, might be suited to another venue that  welcomes  childplay - like twitter or facebook etc.

The choice is yours.

NB:  It's not up to members to make sense of your theorizing, it's up to you to provide evidence to support your comments - then and only then can members decide whether or not your musings are meritous.

aquila wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

I wasn't suggesting this was what Brenda did.

I was saying that I believe some suicidal people do that, they do research and plan.

And Nina was agreeing with me.

Nothing in Brenda Leyland's inquest showed she had planned suicide.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

I wasn't suggesting this was what Brenda did.

I was saying that I believe some suicidal people do that, they do research and plan.

And Nina was agreeing with me.

Nothing in Brenda Leyland's inquest showed she had planned suicide.

I'm not saying she did.

If you read my post, I said some people plan their suicide.

aquila wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

I wasn't suggesting this was what Brenda did.

I was saying that I believe some suicidal people do that, they do research and plan.

And Nina was agreeing with me.

Nothing in Brenda Leyland's inquest showed she had planned suicide.

I'm not saying she did.

If you read my post, I said some people plan their suicide.

That's all a bit too intellectual for me. In the case of Madeleine McCann's disappearance Brenda Leyland died after being outed on Sky News as a troll. Every fifteen minutes this woman was denigrated for her opinion. Now I'm being asked to believe she was suicidal already and had researched how to do it via helium.

Maybe I'm thick.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

I wasn't suggesting this was what Brenda did.

I was saying that I believe some suicidal people do that, they do research and plan.

And Nina was agreeing with me.

Nina wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

aquila wrote:Well it's best I bugger off then before I become Brenda Leyland who has now become accused of having a secret stash of gas in case she wished to commit suicide. If I were to commit suicide I'd do it with a pack of paracatomol and a bottle of vodka but what do I know eh?

I wasn't suggesting this was what Brenda did.

I was saying that I believe some suicidal people do that, they do research and plan.

And Nina was agreeing with me.

Certainly was Get'em. I have no idea what pain or torment Brenda had. I sent her a message of support only to discover it was too late, not that my message would have made the difference needed to save her.
I just know some people do plan down to getting everything in order before carrying out their plans to end their lives.

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Lord Sleuth wrote:No problem, my bad manners letting my enthusiasm getting the better of me, what with being new and all.

But just for the record, I am being serious and I will wait to see what Richard D Hall says in his new dvd which I have on preorder on the `cover up ` subject before I make anymore comments

Nina wrote:Certainly was Get'em. I have no idea what pain or torment Brenda had. I sent her a message of support only to discover it was too late, not that my message would have made the difference needed to save her.
I just know some people do plan down to getting everything in order before carrying out their plans to end their lives.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

Nina wrote:Certainly was Get'em. I have no idea what pain or torment Brenda had. I sent her a message of support only to discover it was too late, not that my message would have made the difference needed to save her.
I just know some people do plan down to getting everything in order before carrying out their plans to end their lives.

That is very sad Nina.

You're such a lovely, caring lady.