PETITION UPDATES - The target is now 10,000 SIGNATURES by 30 March 2015
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Re: PETITION UPDATES - The target is now 10,000 SIGNATURES by 30 March 2015
That is what i find so bizarre in this case, even if they are aware that Madeleine has possibly/probably died regardless of the circumstance, wouldn't any parent grieving the thought of death of their child or that she is still alive in the worst case scenario and suffering terribly, be strongly affected by that? It is very rare that a missing child that young is still alive after such a long time. There is no controlling the flood of emotions grieving parents go through, that is why it is referred to as an emotional rollercoaster, yet the McC's seem pretty much in control of their emotions in interviews and the photos we have seen of them online.Onager wrote:I had an interesting comment come back from a friend after sending out an email.
A professional artist, she was obviously aware of the case, but not in any detail. By no means a reader of mass MSM. Anyway, after reading my brief appraise of the situation, she said it suddenly made sense, as she's always thought
"the heart wrenching loss and grief a mother would feel (and often displayed with other grieving parents) were always missing from Kate's McCann's face. She looked scared if anything - or was trying not to!"
There is parental guilt also, all the what if's, and maybe there was something i could have done to prevent it from happening, all those questions that plague grieving parents after a child dies or is lost.
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Re: PETITION UPDATES - The target is now 10,000 SIGNATURES by 30 March 2015
How many times have police said that a suspect's emotions were very odd, andJoss wrote:That is what i find so bizarre in this case, even if they are aware that Madeleine has possibly/probably died regardless of the circumstance, wouldn't any parent grieving the thought of death of their child or that she is still alive in the worst case scenario and suffering terribly, be strongly affected by that? It is very rare that a missing child that young is still alive after such a long time. There is no controlling the flood of emotions grieving parents go through, that is why it is referred to as an emotional rollercoaster, yet the McC's seem pretty much in control of their emotions in interviews and the photos we have seen of them online.Onager wrote:I had an interesting comment come back from a friend after sending out an email.
A professional artist, she was obviously aware of the case, but not in any detail. By no means a reader of mass MSM. Anyway, after reading my brief appraise of the situation, she said it suddenly made sense, as she's always thought
"the heart wrenching loss and grief a mother would feel (and often displayed with other grieving parents) were always missing from Kate's McCann's face. She looked scared if anything - or was trying not to!"
There is parental guilt also, all the what if's, and maybe there was something i could have done to prevent it from happening, all those questions that plague grieving parents after a child dies or is lost.
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Re: PETITION UPDATES - The target is now 10,000 SIGNATURES by 30 March 2015
It's not just the emotions (or lack thereof) but also all the 'tells' they can't control. They abound in these in their interviews but they go ignored by the police, as they have everything so well sewn up with their lawyers and whoever else is affording them this unprecedented level of protection, I would imagine. On another thread Peter Mac has posted a series of photos of the McCanns smiling. Seeing them altogether like that, you look at their faces and see that the hurt that should be there is missing. They are beaming like teenagers in the first flush of love, and this is just days after their daughter went missing. I just can't see how they can be like that. It defies belief. Other parents who have lost children, James Bulger's mother for example, may be able to force a smile if necessary after all these years, but there is a deep sense of pain and hurt about her that she will never be able to shake off. It's there in her face no matter what she does. With the McCanns, this isn't present. It's just not there. The faces they pull seem fake at a core level, which is why so many of us just don't believe them. It's instinct.
I remember when Ian Huntley appeared on TV before the bodies had been discovered. I remember feeling uneasy and suspicious about him for some reason, although I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, and I was quite shocked that I had felt alerted to something wrong before the truth came out. It has to be unspoken communication and instinct at work. I get the same unease about the McCanns all the time. What they are saying isn't 'jiving' with their unspoken communications.
In my opinion.
I remember when Ian Huntley appeared on TV before the bodies had been discovered. I remember feeling uneasy and suspicious about him for some reason, although I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, and I was quite shocked that I had felt alerted to something wrong before the truth came out. It has to be unspoken communication and instinct at work. I get the same unease about the McCanns all the time. What they are saying isn't 'jiving' with their unspoken communications.
In my opinion.
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Re: PETITION UPDATES - The target is now 10,000 SIGNATURES by 30 March 2015
Yes i'm sure they think the McC's behaviour has been very hinky to say the least, when the police are not new to missing child cases and dealing with the parents of missing children.pennylane wrote:How many times have police said that a suspect's emotions were very odd, andJoss wrote:That is what i find so bizarre in this case, even if they are aware that Madeleine has possibly/probably died regardless of the circumstance, wouldn't any parent grieving the thought of death of their child or that she is still alive in the worst case scenario and suffering terribly, be strongly affected by that? It is very rare that a missing child that young is still alive after such a long time. There is no controlling the flood of emotions grieving parents go through, that is why it is referred to as an emotional rollercoaster, yet the McC's seem pretty much in control of their emotions in interviews and the photos we have seen of them online.Onager wrote:I had an interesting comment come back from a friend after sending out an email.
A professional artist, she was obviously aware of the case, but not in any detail. By no means a reader of mass MSM. Anyway, after reading my brief appraise of the situation, she said it suddenly made sense, as she's always thought
"the heart wrenching loss and grief a mother would feel (and often displayed with other grieving parents) were always missing from Kate's McCann's face. She looked scared if anything - or was trying not to!"
There is parental guilt also, all the what if's, and maybe there was something i could have done to prevent it from happening, all those questions that plague grieving parents after a child dies or is lost.
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Exactly, and when people especially parents of a missing child are caught in lies, it is very suspect and a huge red flag indeed, IMO.Brian Griffin wrote:It's not just the emotions (or lack thereof) but also all the 'tells' they can't control. They abound in these in their interviews but they go ignored by the police, as they have everything so well sewn up with their lawyers and whoever else is affording them this unprecedented level of protection, I would imagine. On another thread Peter Mac has posted a series of photos of the McCanns smiling. Seeing them altogether like that, you look at their faces and see that the hurt that should be there is missing. They are beaming like teenagers in the first flush of love, and this is just days after their daughter went missing. I just can't see how they can be like that. It defies belief. Other parents who have lost children, James Bulger's mother for example, may be able to force a smile if necessary after all these years, but there is a deep sense of pain and hurt about her that she will never be able to shake off. It's there in her face no matter what she does. With the McCanns, this isn't present. It's just not there. The faces they pull seem fake at a core level, which is why so many of us just don't believe them. It's instinct.
I remember when Ian Huntley appeared on TV before the bodies had been discovered. I remember feeling uneasy and suspicious about him for some reason, although I couldn't put my finger on it at the time, and I was quite shocked that I had felt alerted to something wrong before the truth came out. It has to be unspoken communication and instinct at work. I get the same unease about the McCanns all the time. What they are saying isn't 'jiving' with their unspoken communications.
In my opinion.
What are they hiding by their lies? And the truth doesn't change, ever.
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There's something even odder about this couple. There's an unrealistic sense of detachment, especially from the mother who you would imagine to have an even stronger emotional bond with her child than the father, the baby literally being 'part' of her. Whether what happened to Madeleine was an accident, a result of outside forces, or an attempt by the parents to cover up an unfortunate situation...whatever the case, surely the mother would be devastated by the loss of her child from the very core of her existence. She just doesn't seem bothered enough in my eyes, and I just can't understand how she can be so detached, no matter what has gone on. It isn't real. It isn't human. It isn't even 'animal' because they grieve and hurt too, when their offspring are lost. It feels so heartless to say this, but it's what I feel from the whole situation. I apologise to the McCanns if I am wrong. But a mother goes all out to protect her children. Kate refused to answer questions that any normal parents would have answered without fear for themselves or future projections of possible consequences. The only thing a normal person would feel is 'I want my child back at any cost'.
The rest of the McCanns seem to treat the whole thing like a big 'jolly'. I'm bewildered by these people.
In my opinion.
The rest of the McCanns seem to treat the whole thing like a big 'jolly'. I'm bewildered by these people.
In my opinion.
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BG, I agree, the detachment is awful because a grieving parent wants to connect to their child in any way they can, to hear and speak their name often, yet how often do the McC's mention their daughter's name?Brian Griffin wrote:There's something even odder about this couple. There's an unrealistic sense of detachment, especially from the mother who you would imagine to have an even stronger emotional bond with her child than the father, the baby literally being 'part' of her. Whether what happened to Madeleine was an accident, a result of outside forces, or an attempt by the parents to cover up an unfortunate situation...whatever the case, surely the mother would be devastated by the loss of her child from the very core of her existence. She just doesn't seem bothered enough in my eyes, and I just can't understand how she can be so detached, no matter what has gone on. It isn't real. It isn't human. It isn't even 'animal' because they grieve and hurt too, when their offspring are lost. It feels so heartless to say this, but it's what I feel from the whole situation. I apologise to the McCanns if I am wrong. But a mother goes all out to protect her children. Kate refused to answer questions that any normal parents would have answered without fear for themselves or future projections of possible consequences. The only thing a normal person would feel is 'I want my child back at any cost'.
The rest of the McCanns seem to treat the whole thing like a big 'jolly'. I'm bewildered by these people.
In my opinion.
Have they ever when televised on the media said anything to their daughter to directly to tell her how much she is loved and missed and how they wish she could come back home where she belongs with her family? Or has it just been crickets in that department from them?
It really makes me wonder if K.McC ever properly bonded with her daughter? Then again some women just because they have children doesn't necessarily make them a mother.
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