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Post by Bishop Brennan 07.09.14 16:18

It's becoming ever clearer that this is a major part of the End Game. When SY realised they would find not a shred of evidence of abduction or abductor, an alternative close was needed.   This is it.  This book is designed to completely replace the PJ shelving report.  It is the rewrite of history that had been predicted for a year or more.  

Published in the UK and with not even a hint or warning about libel; serialised in the press,and advertised on Sky.  Everyone will know about this definitive work.  This totally independent in depth review.  The Truth.  

And as authors not cops, they can say anything they like. So long as it's an abduction fantasy then nobody will contradict them. No matter how ridiculous the claim or story.  It suits SY, it suits the Mccanns, it suits the government. 

And so that would seem to be that.
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Post by Markus 2 07.09.14 16:52

Revealed: New boss of investigation into VIP child abuse claims is linked to Leon Brittan: The Mail On Sunday exposes family friendship of SECOND inquiry chief with the ex-MP accused of abuse file cover-up

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746370/Revealed-New-boss-investigation-VIP-child-abuse-claims-linked-Leon-Brittan-The-Mail-On-Sunday-exposes-family-friendship-SECOND-inquiry-chief-ex-MP-accused-abuse-file-cover-up.html#ixzz3Ce5QnBp8
and this is how they get away with it all.
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Post by Marnelakis 07.09.14 16:53

You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out....... So they would still have gone out then????
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Post by Tony Bennett 07.09.14 17:09

Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Silverspeed 07.09.14 17:18

Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
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Post by Tony Bennett 07.09.14 17:22

Silverspeed wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
Silverspeed, I insist on accuracy.

The actual quote in Dr Kate McCann's book was 'WELL within the bounds of responsible parenting..."

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Silverspeed 07.09.14 17:27

Tony Bennett wrote:
Silverspeed wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
Silverspeed, I insist on accuracy.

The actual quote in Dr Kate McCann's book was 'WELL within the bounds of responsible parenting..."

ooops  I stand corrected Tony.
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Post by TheTruthWillOut 07.09.14 17:31

Bishop Brennan wrote:It's becoming ever clearer that this is a major part of the End Game. When SY realised they would find not a shred of evidence of abduction or abductor, an alternative close was needed.   This is it.  This book is designed to completely replace the PJ shelving report.  It is the rewrite of history that had been predicted for a year or more.  

Published in the UK and with not even a hint or warning about libel; serialised in the press,and advertised on Sky.  Everyone will know about this definitive work.  This totally independent in depth review.  The Truth.  

And as authors not cops, they can say anything they like. So long as it's an abduction fantasy then nobody will contradict them. No matter how ridiculous the claim or story.  It suits SY, it suits the Mccanns, it suits the government. 

And so that would seem to be that.

I'm still not so sure SY are behind this as part of a whitewash. This book nor the Gamble story, AFAIK, has not been mentioned on the BBC? So there is still a tiny glimmer of hope.

There is this coming up on the 16th though (the McCanns are special guests!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04j5j8g
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Post by canada12 07.09.14 17:32

I look forward to the next case of child endangerment in the UK, when a mum arrested for leaving her child alone while she goes on the lash uses the defense, "But the police never warned me it was dangerous to do this. I claim complete ignorance. You can't arrest me. The McCanns said it was well within the bounds of responsible parenting!"
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Post by Marnelakis 07.09.14 17:49

canada12 wrote:I wonder if the authors didn't interview Kate and Gerry out of choice, or because Kate and Gerry declined to be interviewed.

I also wonder if the authors interviewed any of the Tapas friends.

I wonder if this will just be a rehash of available news stories, rewritten in the authors' own words and packaged up to look like original writing.

It'll be interesting to see if there are any new revelations that we haven't seen before.
Maybe they 'didn't interview' them in the same way Morton 'didn't interview' Diana?


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Post by Doug D 07.09.14 18:35

Not such a positive slant from the 'Portugal Resident':

http://portugalresident.com/more-revelations-in-the-british-media

Today (Sunday) saw Sky News once again heavily feature new ‘revelations’ from the soon-to-be-released book Looking for Madeleine, written by Pulitzer prize finalist Anthony Summers and his fourth wife, investigative journalist Robbyn Swan.


But as the ‘revelations’ revealed themselves to be facts in the public domain since at least 2009, former PJ police inspector Carlos Anjos has penned a damning article claiming the objective of the current Scotland Yard investigation into Madeleine’s seven-year disappearance has “never been to find out what happened to Maddie”.


Instead, he maintains, it has “always been to remove suspicions of the McCanns”.


Concentrating solely on facts, the only clear truth coming out of today’s stories is that the ‘revelations’ in Looking for Madeleine are “nothing new” - and that Sky News is doing one hell of a PR job.


As a fellow journalist who has followed the mystery closely since day one confided: “I doubt of Summers and Swan would call them revelations, but we’ll soon see”.


Looking for Madeleine is due to go on sale on Tuesday September 11, and certainly hundreds if not thousands of readers are eagerly waiting to read it.


A former British policeman told us today: “Will it address Gerry McCann’s change of story about his point of entry? Will it address Kate’s change of story about the curtains? Will it address their telling all the relatives that the shutters were smashed open? Will it give a coherent scenario which includes all the known facts? Will it address the dogs’ alerts over items associated with the McCanns and to no others?”


According to Amazon, “award-winning authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan have produced the first independent, objective account of the case” and have demonstrated that “speculation that the McCann’s played a role in their daughter’s fate” is unfounded.


Cataloguing the “string of sexual assaults and burglaries” that had been reported in the Algarve before Madeleine went missing, Anthony Summers is quoted by Sky News as suggesting Kate and Gerry McCann should have been warned by their tour operators Mark Warner Ltd when they checked in for their family holiday at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz at the end of April, 2007.


"Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?


"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."


As the Sky news report repeats itself throughout the day, elsewhere in the Portuguese media Carlos Anjos, currently president of the Commission for the Protection of Victims of Crimes, writes at length on his theory that multi-million pound police investigation Operation Grange has always set out to clear the McCann parents of any suspicions in their daughter’s disappearance.


“One of the doubts that persist is understanding why the British police have insisted in repeating PJ police investigations, and have never tried to effect the only one the PJ did not do: the reconstruction”, he explains - stressing that the much-publicised BBC Crimewatch programme that purported to reconstruct the events leading up to Madeleine’s disappearance was a “travesty” of the facts.


Addressing the alerts to blood traces and cadaver odours in the family’s apartment thrown up by sniffer dogs Eddie and Keela in 2007, Anjos writes: “I believe that these two dogs, seven years on, are either dead, under lock and key, or have certainly been retired from police duty as a result of their work in Portugal”.


It is a sweeping statement, with apparently no proof to back it up.


Swan, in interview with Sky News, points out that cadaver dog alerts always require the back up of solid forensic evidence - which, in this case, has not been forthcoming.


In other words, today’s ‘revelations’ and media stories, both here and abroad, have just added to all the others swirling in the vortex of questions about what really happened to Madeleine McCann.


With no ‘light at the end of the tunnel’ likely as a result of Summers and Swan’s new book, there is nonetheless an apparent “positive note” in conclusion.


According to the Sky News report: “Quoting American statistics, it (the book) says that only 4% of missing children of Madeleine’s age are not located, and more than half of them - 56% - are recovered alive”.


Meanwhile, Carlos Anjos concludes his article in today’s Domingo supplement of Correio da Manhã with the only firm conviction of which he says he has “no doubt”:
“The English (police) will stop (their investigation) on the day in which the Portuguese authorities say: enough. And, on this day, the British police will say they did not discover what happened (to Madeleine) because the Portuguese authorities did not let them”.
 

Well done again PeterMac for getting some input in.
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Post by Doug D 07.09.14 18:44

‘Carlos Anjos concludes his article in today’s Domingo supplement of Correio da Manhã’
 
No sign of this article within the Domingo supplement on-line. I wonder if any of our Portugese friends can help us out.
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Post by margaret 07.09.14 19:17

Tony Bennett wrote:
Silverspeed wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
Silverspeed, I insist on accuracy.

The actual quote in Dr Kate McCann's book was 'WELL within the bounds of responsible parenting..."

I thought it was reasonable parenting.
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Post by jeanmonroe 07.09.14 19:28

Bishop B.

It's becoming ever clearer that this is a major part of the End Game. When SY realised they would find not a shred of evidence of abduction or abductor, an alternative close was needed.   This is it.  This book is designed to completely replace the PJ shelving report.  It is the rewrite of history that had been predicted for a year or more.  
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imo, S&S 'proclamations' are 'unwittingly' going to have the opposite 'effect'

There's a 'ugly pimpleman, child snatching, burglator, charity collecting, predator' on the LOOSE, in Portugal, looking for white kids to 'snatch', if i'm reading S&S right.

So NO 'CLOSURE' by MET/SY or PJ or anyone else until this 'fiend' IS actually caught!

Imagine the furore IF the 'case' were closed, and Pimpleman struck 'again'. 'Abducting' a three years old UK white female from her bed, while she was sleeping'' immediately after the case was 'closed'

The ONLY way, the case could be er, 'closed', is if DCI Redwood states PUBLICLY "I have found there is NO evidence of an abduction or of an abductor, after a full time, over 3 years, investigation by 38 solely dedicated police staff of the Metropolitan Police Service "

Because......IF there IS (an abductor) then all hell would be unleashed IF the 'abductor' STRUCK..........AGAIN!

NOT A GOOD HEADLINE, i'd suggest:

"The MET Police KNEW there was a predatory abductor, lurking around holiday resorts, in Portugal, but gave up 'looking' for him, and now ANOTHER white UK child has been snatched"

And

That would really be a gross dereliction of duty, by the elite UK Metropolitan Police, investigating Madeleine's er, 'abduction' wouldn't it?

All imo, obviously.
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Post by Naz_Nomad 07.09.14 19:34

PeterMac wrote:Here it is. NOT an e-fit, but a real photo - honest.

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I'm skeptical about this.  I think it's been photoshopped.  I will have to study it in more detail to see if I can spot how it's been altered. spin

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Post by Naz_Nomad 07.09.14 19:36

Bishop Brennan wrote:It's becoming ever clearer that this is a major part of the End Game. When SY realised they would find not a shred of evidence of abduction or abductor, an alternative close was needed.   This is it.  This book is designed to completely replace the PJ shelving report.  It is the rewrite of history that had been predicted for a year or more.  

Published in the UK and with not even a hint or warning about libel; serialised in the press,and advertised on Sky.  Everyone will know about this definitive work.  This totally independent in depth review.  The Truth.  

And as authors not cops, they can say anything they like. So long as it's an abduction fantasy then nobody will contradict them. No matter how ridiculous the claim or story.  It suits SY, it suits the Mccanns, it suits the government. 

And so that would seem to be that.

Unless the authors are relentlessly pestered and their "mistakes" constantly pointed out.

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Post by XTC 07.09.14 20:35

Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out....... So they would still have gone out then????
Perhaps the only note that should be left could be sent to the middle class professionals who " Have all done it"

Namely don't leave your kids in an unlocked ( or locked)  house/flat/hotel/apartment/caravan etc etc anywhere in the world.

No: not even if you felt it was " safe " to do so.

No: not even in safe Portugal.

It is very dangerous

Specific notes should be sent to journalists in the media.

Just a note to remind them will do. Afterall they have the example of what can happen if you do that. Either way.
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Post by Evening_All 07.09.14 20:57

Woofer wrote:Do they think we're all stupid.

Have you ever heard of such a ridiculous BACKFILL excuse to explain away the fact that no stranger DNA was found in the apartment as :-

"What they noticed about this man was that he was wearing what seemed to be a surgical mask and he had wound laundry around his feet, seemingly to keep from making prints or leaving marks."
So now there is a new suspect not previously mentioned. Can we call him surgical mask with laundry around his feet to avoid leaving dna marks man. The mind boggles when this is bolted on to ugly pot bellied man,smelly man that died in a tractor accident, burglar man gone wrong ,  making obscene gestures ref maedeine in bar man, smithman, barrister at manchester party man, the list goes on and on. Still one can assume the aforementioned have been ruled out of the investigation in favour of this "new" suspect that Scotland Yard want to interview. He shouldn't be too hard to find really dressed in the way as described.
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Post by aiyoyo 07.09.14 20:59

Neither Tannerman nor Smithman was reported as having laundry-feet and surgical-mask-face. so how did S&S arrive at the conclusion the abductor was a mummy?

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Post by Guest 07.09.14 21:02

Were there any fancy dress themed nights not previously mentioned.

Kate wore her work cloths,maybe G wore his.
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Post by Evening_All 07.09.14 21:07

canada12 wrote:I look forward to the next case of child endangerment in the UK, when a mum arrested for leaving her child alone while she goes on the lash uses the defense, "But the police never warned me it was dangerous to do this. I claim complete ignorance. You can't arrest me. The McCanns said it was well within the bounds of responsible parenting!"
I am surprised that the "well within the bound of responsible parenting" precedent has not been used before now, if only on a "can this be challenged" basis. No knowledge of law overall but I'm sure there have been dozens of people pulled up for child neglect in the past 7 years, this quote must be public knowledge by now.
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 07.09.14 21:08

@aiyoyo - the abductor was a mummy?

they got that right then? (imo)
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Post by Swannie 07.09.14 21:15

aiyoyo wrote:Neither Tannerman nor Smithman was reported as having laundry-feet and surgical-mask-face. so how did S&S arrive at the conclusion the abductor was a mummy?

Especially when Madeleine had asked why 'mummy' didn't bother to come to them the night before when she and Sean were crying for hours ???? In my opinion, 'the abductor' was probably not mummy but daddy........
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