Re: ‘Do remember in McCann world - there is always more than one version of events.’

by joyce1938 16.08.14 17:41

I recall that 2 ex detectives or policemen went from England and looked at the evidence of windows and shutters and said words to the effect ,that finger print or fingers prints were on the outside of shutters and I think ,that they knew it was kates,does anyone else recall that ? it was on video I watched . joyce1938.

by worriedmum 16.08.14 21:07

frost said ''wearing gloves which holiday makers don't tend to wear''

but some people DO take gloves on holiday-who knows whether they wear them?

by Guest 16.08.14 21:35

parapono wrote:Thanks Hobs!

I found Hobs' blogspot earlier, I really enjoy reading her posts, fascinating:

http://tania-cadogan.blogspot.co.uk/

by Nina 16.08.14 22:56

worriedmum wrote:frost said ''wearing gloves which holiday makers don't tend to wear''

but some people DO take gloves on holiday-who knows whether they wear them?

They are in a stationary drawer along with paper clips, rubber bands and highlighter so maybe used for changing the ink in a printer.

by worriedmum 16.08.14 23:16

Nina wrote:
worriedmum wrote:frost said ''wearing gloves which holiday makers don't tend to wear''

but some people DO take gloves on holiday-who knows whether they wear them?

They are in a stationary drawer along with paper clips, rubber bands and highlighter so maybe used for changing the ink in a printer.

Yes they may.

by comperedna 17.08.14 13:36

Coo... thats a bit fastidious...

by Bishop Brennan 17.08.14 14:36

Casey5 wrote:
frost wrote:Gerrys version of events regarding the shutters is farcical anyone with half a brain entering a scene such as this would automatically say to everyone around them don't touch anything call the police but we are led to believe a highly educated person such as a doctor just waltzed straight in there shut the window and pulled the shutter down . It just would not happen and it didn't .
Hi frost. Gerry also went outside and tried to pull the shutter up from outside.
Let me think now. Your daughter has disappeared and one of the first things you do is go outside and see if you can raise the shutter.
You don't contact the police, set up search parties, scream her name from the rooftops - no, if you're Gerry McCann you go outside and try to lift the shutter.
Why?

Perhaps because you've just realised that this is major problem with your story, and feel compelled to check out your options for changing it?

by Justformaddie 17.08.14 14:44

3/4 version of events, or tailored to match evidence found IMO

by Casey5 17.08.14 16:31

Bishop Brennan wrote:
Casey5 wrote:
Hi frost. Gerry also went outside and tried to pull the shutter up from outside.
Let me think now. Your daughter has disappeared and one of the first things you do is go outside and see if you can raise the shutter.
You don't contact the police, set up search parties, scream her name from the rooftops - no, if you're Gerry McCann you go outside and try to lift the shutter.
Why?

Perhaps because you've just realised that this is major problem with your story, and feel compelled to check out your options for changing it?

Quite. But would an innocent man do that, and even if Gerry did do that why did he say he had? It's a bizarre, guilty thing to do imo.
Plus Gerry hadn't yet started on his phone calls, and in his phone calls he told all and sundry that the shutters had been jemmied, the window opened and Madeleine taken.
If he was thinking of his options surely he would have discarded that one before he phoned his family. After all it doesn't take a genius to work out that the Ocean Club management would deny the shutters had been interfered with, as indeed they did.
So why not go with option 2 from the start?

by **PeterMac** 17.08.14 16:51

Casey5 wrote:
Quite. But would an innocent man do that, and even if Gerry did do that why did he say he had? It's a bizarre, guilty thing to do imo.
Plus Gerry hadn't yet started on his phone calls, and in his phone calls he told all and sundry that the shutters had been jemmied, the window opened and Madeleine taken.
If he was thinking of his options surely he would have discarded that one before he phoned his family. After all it doesn't take a genius to work out that the Ocean Club management would deny the shutters had been interfered with, as indeed they did.
So why not go with option 2 from the start?

That is of course an extremely good point.
He must have known KNOWN that his first set of lies would be found out within the first half hour.
He has told us that he inspected the shutters himself, in some detail.
Kate too knows knows that there is nothing wrong with the shutters.
In her book she had the opportunity to say
"In the children’s room, Gerry lowered the shutter at the open window, but found that it was jammed, obviously broken. . Rushing outside, he made the sickening discovery that it could be raised from this side, too, not just from inside as we’d thought, and he could see how badly damaged it was"

But she doesn't. She says
"In the children’s room, Gerry lowered the shutter at the open window. Rushing outside, he made the sickening discovery that it could be raised from this side, too, not just from inside as we’d thought. "

Why didn't he / they take the opportunity to damage the shutters at that point? They had the perfect cover, the perfect excuse,
but they seem merely to have used the excuse without taking advantage of it.

by Guest 18.08.14 7:12

Your daughter is missing.. first thing you do is lower the shutters...

She might be just down the road, 30 seconds away....

No.. you lower the shutters to test them.

Sorry Gerry, this doesn't fly.

by XTC 19.08.14 23:06

BlueBag wrote:Your daughter is missing.. first thing you do is lower the shutters...

She might be just down the road, 30 seconds away....

No.. you lower the shutters to test them.

Sorry Gerry, this doesn't fly.

It does if you want to convince one of the nannies on duty ( an independent witness) that the shutters were up.

Amy Tierney says she saw the shutters up when she arrived. 10.10pm?

The time of this seeing is not nailed down but when the GNR arrived the shutters were down I believe.

I wonder when GM lowered the shutters if Amy Tierney saw them up?

p.s I think Amy was the one with a boyfriend and a printer - is that right?

Opinion.

by whatsupdoc 20.08.14 9:07

An excellent post, Hobs. clapping1

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