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5-2-3-1 Luz Key ??

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If i Think i Solved the Luz Key

Post by aniandr on 12.07.16 2:13

should i put it herre?

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Re: 5-2-3-1 Luz Key ??

Post by Doug D on 12.07.16 3:29

Other threads about such as:

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4197-5-2-3-1-luz-key

and more recent ones I can't find at moment.

Mods can always move it if they find a better thread.

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Post by Doug D on 12.07.16 3:51

Personally, I have always been happy with the following explanation:
 
Chapter 11
 
HOW
Possibility: Entrance through door
Possibility: Entrance through window
Possibility: Transported to another location, alive
Possibility: Transported to another location, dead
Possibility: Unexpected action by another individual
 

 
WHO
Possibility: Stranger
Possibility: Relative
Possibility: Close group
 

 
WHAT
Possibility: Abduction by stranger
Possibility: Abduction by known person
Possibility: Death and concealment
 

 
WHY
Possibility: To hide relevant action
Possibility: Actions that derive from abduction
 
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4919-chapter-11-the-six-fundamental-questions-where-when-how-who-what-and-why

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Post by aniandr on 13.07.16 8:55

Maybe.

Here is What i Think.Starting with understanding the book.

Foreword "The Challenge"
(...) as been made public and analysed so often already. The steps forward and back in the formation of suspects; the hundreds of false leads... We consciently forget about the concept of 'personalization' of the acts that were carried out by the policemen. So much has been written about what has been happening in Faro, in Praia da Luz, in Portimão and in London.

This book represents the opportunity to say the things that have not been written yet, and, essentially, what nobody has thought yet, or did not have the courage to reveal. Hence the challenge that is proposed to you, that of finding what is real in between the absurd of true facts and of fiction.

The truth tends, sometimes, to loose its characteristical clarity and simplicity only to become, herself, a factor that is as doubtful and obscure as the society that it refers to. It is a paradox that, in so many investigations, the intense search for the desired truth, in order to succeed, has to walk paths that are distanced from the core point. It is necessary to go far, to reach for what is near.

The reader can imagine a library, where, after a hurricane has left all the books spread out on the floor, a person who cannot see is asked to place all the volumes back on the shelves. The person can fulfill the task using only the hands, but only an incredible luck would assure that the books are placed on the correct shelves.

This is how this mystery started out. Everything was out of place. Fiction and reality are so intertwined, that the most rational and objective being would feel completely lost.(...)


Chapters 28 - The Millionaire bet
João Tavares and Francisco Meireles are on service in Praia da Luz for the last time. Or at least, that is what they expect. The place does not bring them bad memories, but it has shown them doors that are still closed to human knowledge.

They are sitting on the wall that surround the Church of Luz. The sea, as they can see it from there, looks imposing. It is very blue. It is a lot of sea. They say that it talks to those who listen to it, but it’s never said a word to these policemen. Francisco had never properly made a friendship with his chief. But he liked to talk with him, because he was always learning. The chief was not prone to talking about his family life, but Francisco took a chance and teased his superior:

- Well, Chief, looking into the blue like that… don’t tell me you already miss this, when you have barely left?

- Francisco, Francisco – João Tavares says, keeping his eyes on the ocean and smiling – everything in life, even the worst things, can help us to learn a little more.

- That is quite true, chief. But sometimes, if we knew a little more before things happen, that would be a good idea.

- That would not be funny at all. Knowing what is coming, would take pleasure out of life. This is how it’s enjoyable. Suddenly and without warning. That is how we see who can take it as a man!

- Well, I actually think it would be great. For example, it would come in handy for Euromillions, wouldn’t it?

João Tavares looks away from the ocean for a moment, and looking at Francisco, he says:

- I don’t usually bet on Euromillions, my friend, but if I ever did, there would be at least four numbers where I would place my little crosses, to hit the winning key. And I bet that at least I would get those four right. As a matter of fact, I would even call it the Luz key.

Those would be the 5, the 2, the 3 and the 1

The chapters - 5 2 3 1
Chapter 5 The inversion of things
Chapter 2 Abduction?
Chapter 3 The most simple hypotheses
Chapter 1 The phonecall of a lifetime

You Will have to read the 4 chapters in that order to understand the connections in that order


Sigmund Freud's Priorities Test. (clement freud was family to sigmund freud)
Personality Test based on your Priorities
Test:
Five Things Are Happening In Your House At The Same Time. In Which Sequence Would You Solve Them?

1. The Telephone Is Ringing!
2. The Baby Is Crying!
3. Someone's Knocking Or Calling You From The Front Door!
4. You Hung The Clothes Out To Dry And It Is Beginning To Rain!
5. You Left The Tap On In The Kitchen And The Water Is Already Overflowing!

In Which Sequence Would You Solve These Problems? Write The Sequence And Check below How Your Decisions Were Made. BUT BE HONEST.

Answer:
Every Individual Point Represents Something In Your Life.

On The List You Can See Which Meaning Every Point Has:

1. Telephone Represents Work
2. Baby Represents Family
3. Door Represents Friends
4. Clothes Represent Money
5. Tap Represents Love Life

Your Chosen Sequence Determines The Priorities In Your Life!



The Challenge - foreword
Read it again.Note this
“This is how this mystery started out. Everything was out of place. Fiction and reality are so intertwined (editor) that the most rational and objective being would feel completely lost.(...)


The 5 2 3 1
Now change/switch Freuds test-questions with the result. Now You make The prioritylist of these
1. Telephone Represents Work
2. Baby Represents Family
3. Door Represents Friends
4. Clothes Represent Money
5. Tap Represents Love Life

Not very unexpected result when you know whats right.

Now: The chapters in the book - in order 5 2 3 1
Chapter 5 The inversion of things
Chapter 2 Abduction?
Chapter 3 The most simple hypotheses
Chapter 1 The phonecall of a lifetime

Sigmund Freud personality test - read the test as the uncovered truth/result
5. You Left The Tap On In The Kitchen And The Water Is Already Overflowing!
2. The Baby Is Crying
3. Someone's Knocking Or Calling You From The Front Door!
1. The Telephone Is Ringing!


combined Test as the results the uncovered truth+chapter 5231 in the book
5. You Left The Tap On In The Kitchen And The Water Is Already Overflowing! + the inversion of things
2. The baby is crying + abduction
3 Someone's Knocking Or Calling You From The Front Door! + The most simple hypotheses
1 a phonecall of a lifetime + the telephone is ringing

Results as the test -this is what we are told as the truth and reason why they are innocent
5. Tap Represents Love Life
2. Baby Represents Family
3. Door Represents Friends
1. Telephone Represents Work


what realy happened
5. You Left The Tap On In The Kitchen And The Water Is Already Overflowing!
was this the event that started the events?
2. The Baby Is Crying
maddie got scared and started crying
3. Someone's Knocking Or Calling You From The Front Door!
someone heard maddie crying.
1. The Telephone Is Ringing
someone call and tells that an accident happened in the/any apartment. The bathtub?

What about freuds Number 4?
Freuds test
4. You Hung The Clothes Out To Dry And It Is Beginning To Rain!
Result
4. Clothes Represent Money

clothes: Did mccann wash clothes suddenly after the dissaparence?
money: how much did they pay (freud?) to get rid of something?

Book
Chapter 4 - a madman in lisbon
http://www.theweek.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/53972/madeleine-mccanns-parents-horrified-by-clement-freud-child-abuse-claims

Also search freud + lisbon

it was a distraction

I think
5.Inversion of things (by the british police/gerry/mi5 etc)
2. made everybody see it as an abduction
3. although the most simple hypotheses was obvious
1.as the phone was ringing at The Sun as priority number 1 - time to get to work and make timelines/priorities

The luz key
And if those 4 numbers are right - the missing pieces is n freuds number 4: the clothes.
Was any clothes missing/not beeing washed?
Could freud have it?

Freuds number 4 priority; money
Euromillions is behind the fundation to collect money to hide the body.



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But its just my guess of course and i.m.o

hope i wrote it understandably :-)

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Re: 5-2-3-1 Luz Key ??

Post by kaz on 13.07.16 10:32

@ aniandr

Sorry, I'm just too simple minded  to follow this 'logic.' It sounds like something Textusa , The Blacksmith and Sigmund Freud ( ! )  wrote together in a dark room somewhere in another galaxy. Like I said, it's probably just me being my thick self.

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Post by rose1234 on 14.07.16 10:09

5231 is the UN standard classification for the retail of medical and pharmaceutical drugs. Perhaps this is Tavares 'code' for saying he thinks Madeleine was drugged. Or that it her 'dissapearance' had something to do some kind of pharmaceutical convention that may (as has been afore suggested on here) have been going on.. Maybe way off the mark but this whole case is so bizarre that anything is possible..

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Post by Jaca Cool on 12.08.17 0:32

I Googled ''5231 is'' and got the first answer ''5231 is a prime number'' - my first thought was prime minister.
Hereby I dont think Prime minister literally, but authorities. Or people on high positions with power. Might be even Prime minister, I dont know, but yes, this 5231 ''prime number'' tells me someone very important has answers and hiding them from us ordinary and not important people. No matter how much we wish little Madeleine found.  

I read in a few articles - new ones - that people on high positions and powerful ones have been covering up. I have no idea why they would do that, but I am very annoyed by these informations. How is it possible that nobody ever tried to charge McCann's for neglecting their children? Their behaving and habits are absolutely unacceptable.

I will not discuss their habit of going on vacation with children and then leave children to unknown people for hours and spending 3-4 hours a day with the kids themselves - but  leaving 3 small children alone behind unlocked door in the night, in the foreign country to go out for drink and party with other adults of the same kind IS neglecting the children and should be punished. These people should not be allowed to have custody over children. 
But no action here. On the other side, McCanns are supported to forbid books on Amazon, to shut the mouth of the journalist etc. Who is giving them this much power to act as it suits them? 

I do not care they being selfish and totally self obsessed.
I do not know if they have anything to do with their child's disappearance, I can't read them. 
But I know as everyone else that they have been using medication/drugs to make their kids sleep when ''needed'', their children have been crying for a long time while left alone and their daughter disappeared without a trace because they left her alone as they did. A three year old child.  
These people as parents had responsibility for their children - to take care of them and to look after them - small children, young children depending on their parents. What they told us by themselves about how they treated their kids, and a factum that their child vanished because of their behaviour should be more than enough in a civilized world to get these two persons put in jail for a long time. But no, they are movie stars, they are jogging, traveling around, making hundreds videos about themselves and they get support for that. They turned this tragic sad event into a money-making engine. 
That is very sad. 
What happened to the world?  How can anyone on earth support these people?

I honestly wish that Madeleine is alive and get found. I wish there are resources and will to search for all missing children and bring them home. 
I apologize my english.
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Re: 5-2-3-1 Luz Key ??

Post by Verdi on 12.08.17 1:42

Jaca Cool wrote:But I know as everyone else that they have been using medication/drugs to make their kids sleep when ''needed'', their children have been crying for a long time while left alone and their daughter disappeared without a trace because they left her alone as they did. A three year old child. 
Good morning @Jaca Cool and welcome to the forum.

You make some interesting observations but I must point out that there is no proof or even evidence to suppose that medication/drugs were used by any member of the group to make their children sleep or that any child/ren had been left alone crying for a long time.

If you have any specific questions or need any guidance to help with familiarizing yourself with the forum, you only need ask.  Meanwhile, as a new member,  you might find these links helpful..

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Re: 5-2-3-1 Luz Key ??

Post by Jaca Cool on 12.08.17 1:44

Good morning Verdi, will do, thank you :)
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Post by Verdi on 12.08.17 1:53

At your service howdy .

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Post by BlueBag on 12.08.17 6:31

"or that any child/ren had been left alone crying for a long time."


There was a witness now dead.


I know people question that but I think there was a crying incident.... or a noise incident that sounded like someone crying.  
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Post by Jaca Cool on 12.08.17 11:27

Now I can see that I wrote rather confusing the sentence that Verdi quoted - I was very emotional when I wrote it so it did not come out right as I wanted - let me try again:

I understood from several articles and videos that McCanns used to give Madeleine sleeping medications from time to time in the past because she had sleeping problems. Not to judge anyone, but I find it absolutely unacceptable to give that kind of medications to children for any reason. There are other ways to help children get asleep than giving them sleeping pills or whatever it was. That makes me think they are parents who choose easy way instead of right way.

There was a lady in the same complex who witnessed that she heard a small child crying for a long time, over an hour and she was sure that it was from McCanns vacation apartment. As there were no other sounds than child's cry, the lady concluded that the child was alone for some time. This happened day(s) before Maddie's disappearance too, but this also makes me think that McCanns were not as good parents as they should have been, you just don't leave young children alone anywhere, especially not like they used to. Kate has been talking for years about Maddie asking ''Where have you been when I cried?'' (regarding another occasion).

So these episodes are what I mean in the quoted sentence. A piece of this here and a piece of that there is what make me think about McCanns as bad parents. 

Due to language barriers and due to I become very emotional when I think about Madeleine and have so much to say, but not able to do it properly - my comments might sound wrong sometimes

Back to 5231 - I think that behind 5231 is a person(s) who have all answers regarding Madeleine's disappearance.
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Post by Jaca Cool on 13.08.17 2:27

rose1234 wrote:Hmm, 5231 is also the number of the Freemasons Benefactum Lodge in London..

http://www.dallasscottishrite.org/default.asp?contentID=17&page=8&sort=T&filter=A

http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/lane/record.php?ID=8045
Spot on rose1234, masonry is involved. 
I found out today that Gerry McCann is a freemason as well as his powerful friends Gordon Brown and Tony Blair among many others. I dont know much about this society, but I know they have a lot of secrets, they are very powerful, spread worldwide and they give a blood oath to protect each others. They are even ready to lie in the court if necessary to protect the brother - the best protection McCanns ever could have. That is why they are untouchable, that is why Amaral has been discredited and harassed for years and his private life almost ruined, that is why David Payne was not investigated properly, that is why Amazon forbids selling books, that is why McCanns spend more time and money on suing people than on searching for their daughter, I could go on for hours...
That is also why British investigators has totally opposite theories than Portuguese police and are still brainwashing the audience with the abduction that never took place. 
Sadly how much chaos and injustice these people can cause
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