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Post by crusader 09.03.21 15:34

Fantastic JimBob , great to hear some positive news.
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Post by Tony Bennett 09.03.21 16:27

Someone has received a reply to his letter telling his GP that he was not at this stage willing to take either of the vaccines offered, and would like to be prescribed Ivermectin as a suitable prophylactic and preventive agent.

The reply reads:

"Thank you for your emails* and apologies for the delay in replying. I have been waiting for further information regarding the prescribing of Ivermectin. I am informed by our pharmacy that this is not available for GPs to prescribe currently".

* Actually, these were letters handed in at the surgery, not emails

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Verdi 10.03.21 0:03

Covid-19: Don't think pandemic is over, Whitty warns

By Nick Triggle
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You are seriously telling millions of people to take a vaccine that 'might not work'  Shocked ?

Go to hell oh witless one!

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Post by crusader 10.03.21 7:22

They are at it again with the fear tactics, I'll bet there are millions of people not taking up their "invitation" for the jab.
If it was all going to plan, they wouldn't keep going on about it.
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Post by JimbobJones 10.03.21 8:17

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You are seriously telling millions of people to take a vaccine that 'might not work'  Shocked ?

Go to hell oh witless one!

"The modelling (fiction) would suggest ".
"those in who the vaccine has not worked (dropped yourself in it there, old chap)"
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Is this guy being blackmailed?
What is this guys guilty secret? It must be something pretty bad to even raise an eyebrow these days. 
Whatever, he looks like he escaped from the shop in  Royston Vaisey.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 10.03.21 8:57

The shop in Royston Vaisey  titter. He seems very keen to have a huge death toll.
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Post by BlueBag 10.03.21 9:13

Remember when £37bn was a lot of money... like how much the EU wanted off us for leaving.


BBC Propaganda Central wrote:Covid-19: NHS Test and Trace 'no clear impact' despite £37bn budget


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£37bn... just down the toilet.

Magic money... or not when the country is bankrupt and the financial system collapses.
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Post by Verdi 10.03.21 11:33

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Whatever, he looks like he escaped from the shop in Royston Vaisey.

Or room No. 9 ...

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Post by Verdi 10.03.21 12:04

The brief conversation I had with a local pharmacist a short while ago about availability of the customary seasonal flu vaccination, has been niggling me because I couldn't understand the rationale.

My thoughts all along have wavered with the idea that the unusually swift production of vaccines to shield against the coronavirus variant COVID-19 (if not serum) are nothing but a modified formula of the seasonal flu vaccine. It's no longer a wavering idea - I am now convinced.

The COVID-19 coronavirus variant has slowly but surely revealed itself to be good old tried and tested Mr Flu - which incidentally mutates month in month out, year in year out. You don't usually hear about such matters, it takes a plandemic to reveal all.

If you don't believe me, carefully read the UK government's web page - it's an eye opener. They seem to think they can slip these things in without being noticed. Wrong!

Without further ado..

Guidance
The flu vaccination winter 2020 to 2021: who should have it and why


Updated 28 September 2020

Flu isn’t just a heavy cold

Flu occurs every year, usually in the winter, which is why it’s sometimes called seasonal flu. It’s a highly infectious disease with symptoms that come on very quickly.

Colds are much less serious and usually start gradually with a stuffy or runny nose and a sore throat. A bad bout of flu can be much worse than a heavy cold.

The most common symptoms of flu are fever, chills, headache, aches and pains in the joints and muscles, and extreme tiredness. Healthy individuals usually recover within 2 to 7 days but, for some, the disease can lead to hospitalisation, permanent disability or even death.
The causes of flu

Flu is caused by influenza viruses that infect the windpipe and lungs. And because it’s caused by viruses and not bacteria, antibiotics won’t treat it. However, if there are complications from getting flu, antibiotics may be needed.

How you catch flu

When an infected person coughs or sneezes, they spread the flu virus in tiny droplets of saliva over a wide area. These droplets can then be breathed in by other people or they can be picked up by touching surfaces where the droplets have landed.

You can prevent the spread of the virus by covering your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze, and you should wash your hands frequently or use hand gels to reduce the risk of picking up the virus.

But the best way to avoid catching and spreading flu is by having the vaccination before the flu season starts.

How we protect against flu

Flu is unpredictable. The vaccine provides the best protection available against a virus that can cause severe illness. The most likely viruses that will cause flu are identified in advance of the flu season and vaccines are then made to match them as closely as possible.

The vaccines are given in the autumn ideally before flu starts circulating. During the last 10 years, the vaccine has generally been a good match for the circulating strains.

The harm flu can do


People sometimes think a bad cold is flu, but having flu can often be much worse than a cold and you may need to stay in bed for a few days. Some people are more susceptible to the effects of flu. For them, it can increase the risk of developing more serious illnesses such as bronchitis and pneumonia, or can make existing conditions worse. In the worst cases, flu can result in a stay in hospital, or even death.

Those at increased risk from the effects of flu

Flu can affect anyone, but if you have a long-term health condition, the effects of flu can make it worse even if the condition is well managed and you normally feel well. You should have the free flu vaccine if you are:

pregnant

or have a long-term condition such as:

a heart problem
a chest complaint or breathing difficulties, including bronchitis, emphysema or severe asthma
a kidney disease
lowered immunity due to disease or treatment (such as steroid medication or cancer treatment)
liver disease
had a stroke or a transient ischaemic attack (TIA)
diabetes
a neurological condition, such as multiple sclerosis (MS) or cerebral palsy
a learning disability
a problem with your spleen, such as sickle cell disease, or you have had your spleen removed
you are seriously overweight (BMI of 40 and above)

People on the NHS Shielded Patient List for COVID-19 are all eligible for a free flu vaccine and it is really important this year that they receive it.

This list of conditions isn’t definitive. It’s always an issue of clinical judgement. Your GP can assess you to take into account the risk of flu making any underlying illness you may have worse, as well as your risk of serious illness from flu itself.

We want to reduce the chances of those vulnerable to COVID-19 from getting flu.

Those who should consider having a flu vaccination


All those who have any condition listed above, or who are:

aged 65 years or over
living in a residential or nursing home
the main carer of an older or disabled person
a household contact of someone on the NHS Shielded Patient List for COVID-19
a frontline health or social care worker
pregnant see below
children of a certain age

In 2020, more people will be offered the free flu vaccine later in the autumn. To find out who is included, check NHS.UK.

The flu vaccine doesn’t provide protection against COVID-19

The flu vaccine won’t protect you from COVID-19. But it will help protect you against flu, which is an unpleasant and potentially serious infection that can cause complications leading to hospital admission. Helping to protect against flu is particularly important with COVID-19 in circulation, because people vulnerable to COVID-19 are also at risk of complications from flu.

If you are pregnant

All pregnant women should have the flu vaccine to protect themselves and their babies. The flu vaccine can be given safely at any stage of pregnancy, from conception onwards.

Pregnant women benefit from the flu vaccine because it will:

reduce their risk of serious complications, such as pneumonia, particularly in the later stages of pregnancy
reduce the risk of miscarriage or having a baby born too soon or with a low birth weight
help protect their baby, who will continue to have some immunity to flu during the first few months of their life
reduce the chance of the mother passing infection to her new baby

If you are pregnant and think you have flu

If you have flu symptoms, you should talk to your doctor urgently, because if you do have flu there is a prescribed medicine that might help (or reduce the risk of complications), but it needs to be taken as soon as possible after the symptoms appear.

You can get the free flu vaccine from your GP, or it may also be available from your pharmacist or midwife.

You should have the flu vaccination each flu season

The flu vaccine for each winter helps provide protection against the strains of flu that are likely to be present and may be different from those circulating last year. For this reason, we strongly recommend that even if you were vaccinated last year, you should be vaccinated again this year. In addition, protection from the flu vaccine may only last about 6 months so you should have the flu vaccine each flu season.

Safety measures for COVID-19

While COVID-19 is in circulation, providers of flu vaccination will have measures in place to keep you safe. Staff giving the vaccine will be wearing protective equipment to protect both you and themselves from the virus. Appointment times may also be scheduled to reduce numbers in the waiting area or you may be asked not to arrive early.

You should still have the vaccination even if you think you’ve already had flu


Other viruses can give you flu-like symptoms, or you may have had flu but because there is more than one type of flu virus you should still have the vaccine even if you think you’ve had flu.

Children and the flu vaccination

If you have a child over 6 months of age who has one of the conditions listed above, they should have a flu vaccination. All these children are more likely to become severely ill if they catch flu, and it could make their existing condition worse.

Talk to your GP about your child having the flu vaccination before the flu season starts.

The flu vaccine does not work well in babies under 6 months of age so it is not recommended. This is why it is so important that pregnant women have the vaccination – they will pass on some immunity to their baby that will protect them during the early months of their life.

Some other groups of children are also being offered the flu vaccination. This is to help protect them against the disease and help reduce its spread both to other children, including their brothers or sisters, and, of course, their parents and grandparents. This will help you to avoid the need to take time off work because of flu or to look after your children with flu.

The children being offered the vaccine this year, are:

children aged 2 or 3 years old on 31 August 2020
primary school-aged children
year 7 secondary school-aged children

Children aged 2 and 3 years will be given the vaccination at their general practice usually by the practice nurse. Nearly all school-aged children will be offered the flu vaccine in school. For most children, the vaccine will be given as a spray in each nostril. This is a very quick and painless procedure.

For more information on children and flu vaccination, see NHS.UK.

The types of flu vaccine available

There are several types of flu vaccine. You will be offered one that is most effective for you, depending upon your age, from the following:

children aged 2 to 17 are offered a live vaccine as a nasal spray. The live viruses have been weakened so it cannot give you flu
adults aged 18 to 64 are offered an injectable vaccine. It is an inactivated vaccine that does not contain any live viruses and cannot give you flu. There are different types available depending on how they were manufactured
adults aged 65 and over are offered an injected vaccine. It is an inactivated vaccine that does not contain any live viruses and cannot give you flu. Usually, you will be offered one that contains an adjuvant that helps the immune system create a stronger response to the vaccine. It is offered to people in this age group because as people age their immune system responds less well to vaccines

If your child is aged between 6 months and 2 years old and is in a high-risk group for flu, they will be offered an injected flu vaccine as the nasal spray is not licensed for children under the age of 2. Some children over the age of 2 who are in a high-risk group will also need to have an injected vaccine if the nasal spray vaccine is not suitable for them.

The flu vaccine be given to your child at the same time as other vaccines

The flu vaccine can be given at the same time as all routine childhood vaccines. The vaccination can go ahead if your child has a minor illness such as a cold, but may be delayed if your child has an illness that causes a fever.

People who shouldn’t have the vaccination

Almost everybody can have the vaccine, but you should not be vaccinated if you have ever had a serious allergy to the vaccine, or any of its ingredients. If you are allergic to eggs or have a condition that weakens your immune system, you may not be able to have certain types of flu vaccine – check with your GP. If you have a fever, the vaccination may be delayed until you are better.

Children who shouldn’t have the vaccination


Children may not be able to have the nasal vaccine if they:

are currently wheezy or have been wheezy in the past 72 hours, they should be offered a suitable injected flu vaccine to avoid a delay in protection
have needed intensive care due to asthma or egg allergic anaphylaxis (children in these 2 groups are recommended to seek the advice of their specialist and may need to have the nasal vaccine in hospital)
have a condition, or are on treatment, that severely weakens their immune system or have someone in their household who needs isolation because they are severely immunosuppressed
are allergic to any other components of the vaccine

Also, children who have been vaccinated with the nasal spray should avoid close contact with people with very severely weakened immune systems for around 2 weeks following vaccination because there’s an extremely remote chance that the vaccine virus may be passed to them.
The nasal vaccine contains gelatine derived from pigs (porcine gelatine)

The nasal vaccine contains a highly processed form of gelatine (porcine gelatine), which is used in a range of many essential medicines. The gelatine helps to keep the vaccine viruses stable so that the vaccine provides the best protection against flu. The nasal vaccine is offered to children as it is more effective in the programme than the injected vaccine. This is because it is easier to administer and considered better at reducing the spread of flu to others, who may be more vulnerable to the complications of flu.

However, if your child is at high risk from flu due to one or more medical conditions or treatments and can’t have the nasal flu vaccine, they should have the flu vaccine by injection. Some people may not accept the use of porcine gelatine in medical products. You should discuss your options with your nurse or doctor.
Potential side effects

Side effects of the nasal vaccine may commonly include a runny or blocked nose, headache, tiredness and some loss of appetite. Those having the injected vaccine may get a sore arm at the site of the injection, a low-grade fever and aching muscles for a day or 2 after the vaccination. Serious side effects with either vaccine are uncommon.

Level of protection

Because the flu virus can change from year to year there is always a risk that the vaccine does not match the circulating virus. During the last 10 years, the vaccine has generally been a good match for the circulating strains.

Protection period

The vaccine should provide protection throughout the current flu season.

What you need to do


If you belong to one of the groups mentioned in this guidance, it’s important that you have your flu vaccination.

Speak to your GP or practice nurse, or alternatively your local pharmacist, to book a vaccination appointment and get the best possible protection. For pregnant women, the vaccine may also be available through maternity services. The flu vaccine is free. So make an appointment to receive the vaccine.

Organisations wishing to protect their employees against flu (unless they are at risk) will need to make arrangements for the vaccinations to be given through their occupational health departments. These vaccinations are not available on the NHS and will have to be paid for by the employer.

If you are a frontline health or social care worker, find out what arrangements have been made at your workplace for providing flu vaccination. It’s important that you get protected.

Summary of those who are recommended to have the flu vaccine

everyone aged 65 and over
everyone under 65 years of age who has a medical condition listed above, including children and babies over 6 months of age
all pregnant women, at any stage of pregnancy
all 2- and 3- year-old children (provided they were aged 2 or 3 years old on 31 August of the current flu season)
all children in primary school
all Year 7 secondary school-aged children
everyone living in a residential or nursing home
everyone who cares for an older or disabled person
household contacts of anyone on the NHS Shielded Patient List
all frontline health and social care workers

For advice and information about the flu vaccination, speak to your GP, practice nurse or pharmacist.

More people will be offered the free flu vaccine later in the autumn. Check NHS.UK to find out if you are eligible.

It is best to have the flu vaccination in the autumn before any outbreaks of flu. Remember that you need it every year, so don’t assume you are protected because you had one last year.

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The flu vaccine won’t protect you from COVID-19. But it will help protect you against flu, which is an unpleasant and potentially serious infection that can cause complications leading to hospital admission.

Because the flu virus can change from year to year there is always a risk that the vaccine does not match the circulating virus. During the last 10 years, the vaccine has generally been a good match for the circulating strains.

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Post by Verdi 10.03.21 12:22

Now Brazil is nearing breaking point, it seems Mr Sputnik has slipped into another disguise to keep the ball rolling - mysterious traveler is Mr Sputnik, he manages to escape imposed travel restrictions and take his vacation wherever he fancies.  South America - long haul flight from Asia ain't it?  Or maybe he travels cattle class on a cargo ship i don\'t know .  Whatever, Mr Sputnik is very selective as to where he takes his vacation.

Some years ago I had a relative in ICU.  In the unit there were ten beds, every one occupied and all occupants wired up to machines, pumped with drugs and on the edge of death - including my relative.  What a way to die!

Illness is not necessarily seasonal, everyday thousands of people across the world become ill and end up in hospital, the fortunate get to walk out again, the less fortunate don't.  Hospitals are there for a purpose, to treat the sick.  The malady is not the issue here, the daily work of the hospital is the issue.  I'll wager the ICU in any hospital is full to capacity at any given time - unless of course people are being turned away because beds are being allocated for what might happen, as opposed to what is happening.

Give it a rest.

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Post by Doug D 10.03.21 13:47

Nothing new for most readers on here, but even the government are now admitting it’s crap.
 
Shocking News Regarding the PCR Test
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Go to the UK government’s website called gov.uk and look for a guidance report called 'Covid-19: management of staff and exposed patients or residents in health and social care settings.' 
The report appears under the heading Public Health England and it was updated on 28th January 2021.

Scroll down to section 6 which is headed 'Sars-cov-2 re-testing in staff, patients and residents in health and social care settings'

Here is the whole of the first paragraph:

Immunocompetent staff, patients and residents who have tested positive for sars-cov-2 by PCR should be exempt from routine re-testing by PCR or LFD antigen tests (for example, repeated whole setting screening or screening prior to hospital discharge) within a period of 90 days from their initial illness onset or test (if asymptomatic) unless they develop new covid-19 symptoms. This is because fragments of inactive virus can be persistently detected by PCR in respiratory tract samples following infection – long after a person has completed their isolation period and is no longer infectious.

Now, set aside the fact that the paragraph was to me darned near incomprehensible and concentrate on the final paragraph.

And you will find this choice section:
... fragments of inactive virus can be persistently detected by PCR in respiratory samples following infection – long after a person has completed their isolation period and is no longer infectious.

And that is exactly why I and other doctors have been arguing for months that the PCR test is unreliable and not fit for purpose.

I’ll repeat what the UK Government says:

... fragments of inactive virus can be persistently detected by PCR in respiratory samples following infection – long after a person has completed their isolation period and is no longer infectious.

So, now I’d like the fact checkers and the pseudo journalists who have accused me of publishing misinformation to get down on their knees and start grovelling.

Because the UK government is saying exactly what I and other doctors have been saying for months.

The PCR test picks up fragments of inactive virus when a patient is no longer infectious.

And it appears that the UK Government must now agree with me: the PCR test is useless and should be abandoned.

Fact checkers, pseudojournalists, politicians and members of the twitterati should publish their grovelling apologies immediately.

I’ll repeat it once more for those fact checkers who are a little slow on the uptake:

The UK Government says that the PCR test picks up fragments of inactive virus when a patient is no longer infectious.


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Post by Verdi 10.03.21 15:13

This pandemic has put us all on the same side in the battle for global health.
Boris Johnson

Aha! An admission of inside knowledge.

What is a battle for global health? Why are you fighting a virus?

The only way to overcome this made made situation is to return to our former lives, as far as possible and continue as we've always done.

Who needs it?

Keep calm and carry on!

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What is a battle for global health?
It's the thing Bill Gates has been pushing for over a decade now.

Oh look... Bill just mentioned (by coincidence, I'm sure Boris thought of it himself) "Global Health".

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Bill Gates Annual Letter wrote:The year global health went local
The world has an important opportunity to turn the hard-won lessons of this pandemic into a healthier, more equal future for all.

Two decades ago, we created a foundation focused on global health because we wanted to use the returns from Microsoft to improve as many lives as possible. 
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Post by Tony Bennett 11.03.21 13:10

From Rodney Atkinson (brother of Rowan Atkinson), posted today on his freenations.net site, which campaigns for individual nations states and against supranational enterprises such as the EU and of course against the coming New World Order:

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THE COVID CRISIS – GOING HOME 

Since COVID struck, the UK population has fallen as EU citizens went home and immigrants from the EU stopped coming. Professor Jonathan Portes estimates the British population could have shrunk by 1.3m. 
Early in the crisis the Italian Airline Alitalia said the four daily flights between Rome and London were “quite empty”. But on the return leg to Rome, its aircraft were “almost full” of Italian citizens who wanted to fly back to Italy. (Those people travelling to Italy had to fill in a declaration to say that their journey was essential!)
Such is the pull of the nation state. In a crisis the Italians in Britain knew where they wanted to be!
In Italy itself the care homes suffered a similar movement as East European nurses who worked the very long hours most Italians would not work suddenly left the country as the threat of border closures loomed. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless and those care homes (as elsewhere) became centres of COVID infection.

Another Pole in Britain called Radek was walking by the sea as a relief from family problems and their effective imprisonment in the UK when he was arrested, handcuffed and strip-searched at the local police station.

“On top of that came personal family problems which we faced in the last months. They include the very serious illness of my wife’s brother and death of close relatives. We were not even able to say goodbye or go and attend the funeral in Poland.”

Only after 3 hours was he released and in a clear admission of the pointlessness of this fascist treatment he was released without charge.

Even within Britain it was evident that those who lived and worked in London (and were wealthy enough) took the first opportunity to move to their houses in the country. As with EU citizens living outside their own country many Londoners will take the long term decision to move and not return to where they felt trapped.

It is because the corporatist supranational elites and their centralised superstates fear this return to the world of nation states and democracy, to a world of national currencies and little migration that they speak of the “Great Re-set”. The will of free peoples and families with a love of their national homes and sovereign parliaments cannot be allowed to pull down the anti-democratic world of the globalist elitists. For that world was so carefully, secretly and ruthlessly established over decades.

But their edifice is crumbling and the people sense a change. Nationism will rise again

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by crusader 11.03.21 13:37

Living in one of the places in the North with the highest number of covid cases and always in the highest lockdown tier, you would think we had problems enough.
Not so, the powers that be decided in their wisdom that they would add to the pressure.
Between April and December 2020, during lockdown, 580 adult migrants arrived to add to the problem.
It will repeat again this year no doubt, as it has been doing for years.
We are all supposed to stay at home and save the NHS, It's not the indigenous people who are abusing it.


The NHS is finished, It needs a radical overall, although it wont get one.

Save the NHS, who the hell is going to save us?
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Post by Verdi 11.03.21 15:00

Oxford-AstraZeneca: Denmark suspends vaccine 'as a precaution'

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Denmark has temporarily halted use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine as a precaution, after reports of a small number of blood clots and one death.

The Danish health authority said it was too early to say whether there was a link to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Austria earlier stopped using a batch of the drug, prompting the EU medicines agency to say there was no indication the vaccine caused blood clots.

The company says its safety has been studied extensively in clinical trials.

"Patient Safety is the highest priority for AstraZeneca," a spokesperson said.

"Regulators have clear and stringent efficacy and safety standards for the approval of any new medicine, and that includes Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca."

Peer-reviewed data confirmed it had been "generally well tolerated", the statement added.

The Danish decision came days after Austria suspended use of a particular batch of the drug because a woman died 10 days after taking it. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Luxemburg have also stopped using the batch.

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Post by BlueBag 11.03.21 16:28

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Denmark has temporarily halted use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine as a precaution, after reports of a small number of blood clots and one death.
This is relevant regards my Mother.

My mother has been very ill since she had the vaccine - in and out of hospital and in and out of isolation.

Yesterday we had the bad news that she doesn't have long left because she has a blood clot in her leg - there is nothing they can do for her - it's just a matter of time - days or a couple of months at the most.

Her foot is now necrotic and it's creeping upwards.

Do not take this vaccine!
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Post by Doug D 11.03.21 17:15

Sorry to hear about you mum BlueBag.

NHS waiting list for operations now 4.6m with more than 300k waiting over a year (compared to 1.6k a year ago).
 
I wonder how much higher this figure would be if, (without doubt a sizeable number), they had to add in those that didn’t make it due to the delays.
 
[size=32]Covid-19: NHS waits at record high as second wave hits care[/size]
 
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The Covid surge in January hit key services including cancer and routine surgery, NHS England figures show.
Less than half the expected number of operations were done, pushing the waiting list to a record-high of 4.6m.
More than 300,000 of those have been waiting more than a year for treatment - compared to 1,600 before the pandemic began.
Surgeons described it as a dire situation which would take a long time to turnaround.
 
Tim Mitchell, of the Royal College of Surgeons of England, said: "Behind today's statistics are people waiting in limbo. 
"Many will be in considerable pain, others will have restricted mobility and be at risk of isolation and loneliness. 
"Dealing with this daunting backlog will take time, and also sustained investment in the NHS," he said.
Similar problems are also being seen in Scotland where 39,000 people have been waiting over a year for treatment.


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The NHS Confederation has warned the true picture could be much worse with nearly 6 million fewer referrals made by GPs in England for routine treatments, which includes operations such as knee and hip replacements, last year, suggested there was an additional hidden backlog.
The organisation, which represents hospitals, said it was likely people have not sought help or found it difficult to access services during the pandemic.
The numbers starting treatment for cancer and being referred for urgent check-ups returned to pre-pandemic levels in the autumn.
But the data for January showed a dip in numbers for the first time since the first wave - just under 23,000 people started treatment, compared to nearly 27,500 in January 2020.
Michelle Mitchell, Cancer Research UK's chief executive, said: "While it's positive that urgent referrals did not plummet as they did in the first wave, these January figures show that the pandemic continues to have a devastating impact on cancer patients."
 
NHS England said given the scale of Covid admissions seen in January, some disruption had been unavoidable.
Medical director Prof Stephen Powis said: "Admitting more than 100,000 Covid patients to hospital in a single month inevitably had a knock-on effect on some non-urgent care.
"However, thanks to the hard work of NHS staff and the innovations in treatment and care developed over the course of the pandemic, hospitals treated more than one million people with other conditions in January, at the peak of the winter wave, nearly twice as many as they did last April.
"That is a testament to the skill, dedication and commitment nurses, doctors, therapists and countless other staff showed in the most challenging period in NHS history."
 
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Post by crusader 11.03.21 17:17

So sorry to hear about your Mum BlueBag, you must feel you are living in a nightmare.
Our old people, especially the ones in care homes have been used to test this experimental vaccine, many of whom without their permission.
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Post by Jill Havern 11.03.21 18:06

I'm sorry to hear about your mum BlueBag...are you able to visit her yet?

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Post by BlueBag 11.03.21 20:13

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I'm sorry to hear about your mum BlueBag...are you able to visit her yet?
Not allowed.

Only my Dad.

It's mental.
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Post by Jill Havern 11.03.21 21:00

How is he coping with the situation, it can't be easy for him either.

Is your mum aware of what's happening to her?

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Post by Verdi 11.03.21 23:46

Patients more likely to die after surgery if they had Covid-19 recently, study shows

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Surgical patients could be at a higher risk of dying if they were infected with Covid-19 in the seven weeks before their operation.

Researchers have advised that people should not have pre-planned surgery for seven weeks after their coronavirus diagnosis.

Analysing data on thousands of patients across 116 countries, researchers in Birmingham looked at who tested positive for Covid before their surgery and also those who died in the month after their operation.

They found that death rates in people who had had operation were higher in the first few weeks after a Covid diagnosis.

After seven weeks, the proportion of people who died post-surgery were the same as people who had not been diagnosed with coronavirus.

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Roughly translated .... death with COVID-19 recorded on death certificate'

As time progresses and the hoax is becoming more apparent, so the hoax is weakened - they are getting desperate. Their argument, if it can be referred to as such, is losing ground.

In short, they are floundering.

I've said all along this is a mass experiment, a test - and so the pattern continues. The vaccine programme is being phased according to age, starting with the over 80sm then over 70s, then over 65s, then over 50s, so on and so forth until newborn's enter the equation.

Humanity is fast becoming nothing but a statistic. The anonymous dictate are not interested in saving lives or the planet, they are only interested in pursuing their agenda. Question remains unanswered - what is their agenda!

My view .... technology! That appears to be the leading force in every aspect of the enforced life changes since the beginning of 2020.

I'm in no doubt the younger generations, you know - those who spend sixteen+ hours of every day glued to a rectangular piece of plastic that talks virtual language, will welcome the changes. They don't appear to know any different.

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Post by Verdi 12.03.21 0:05

I had to angry when I read on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] that you shouldn't take the COVID-19 vaccine if you are allergic. So how the friggin' hell do you know you are allergic until you take the vaccine - possibly with fatal consequences?

Much the same is said on every little paper stuffed inside a box of pharmaceutical medicaments - a meaningless disclaimer should you become mildly or seriously ill or keel over and die!

The pharmaceutical industry must come out tops, on a level with technology giants, as regards stinking rotten wealthery! Just how many unnecessary medical prescriptions and medical procedures are dished out in the name of money?

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