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Post by Tony Bennett on 28.02.20 9:06

Watch at 15 minutes through this video, where a planned virus attack on China is being discussed. The actual meeting took place  in 2005.  

EN - The Anglo-Saxon Mission [This version with English subtitles]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmWM51mTY_c
 
This video is the work of Bill Ryan who worked for 'Project Camelot'.

The intro to the video description begins as follows:

"In January 2010, Project Camelot received 11 pages of information from an insider who was physically present at a meeting of Senior Masons in the City of London in 2005. What was discussed is chilling to the bone".

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie Mcann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by BlueBag on 28.02.20 9:22

What I'm not understanding....

The question....

Is Coronavirus worse than flu?

Because....

From what I've read...

It's not.

So why the global panic?

Flu kills tens of thousands every year and... from what I've read... has a worse death rate than Coronavirus.

This is all very strange.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 28.02.20 9:33

@BlueBag wrote:What I'm not understanding....

The question....

Is Coronavirus worse than flu?

Because....

From what I've read...

It's not.

So why the global panic?

Flu kills tens of thousands every year and... from what I've read... has a worse death rate than Coronavirus.

This is all very strange.

I have read that it spreads faster than influenza...

...that it is not quite as bad as Sars

and is nowhere near as bad as Ebola

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ETA:  The Toronoto Sun has a brief look at some developing conspiracy theories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT3RvQ426zA

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ETA2:    We are all in trouble if this carries on:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-8052929/Panic-mode-2-8trillion-wiped-global-stock-markets-6-days.html

'We are in panic mode': £2.8 trillion is wiped off global stock markets in just 6 days as coronavirus wreaks havoc


(If a week ago you had shares worth £10,000, as of today they would be worth only £8,500)



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Amelie Mcann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by BlueBag on 28.02.20 10:24

I think we are being manipulated (again).

There is absolutely no need for this panic as it's just another flu like virus with no worse effects.

They've tried this in the past... it's working this time as everyone has lost their mind.
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Post by PeterMac on 28.02.20 11:04

(If a week ago you had shares worth £10,000, as of today they would be worth only £8,500)


Only if you now choose to sell them !

Perhaps Chinese duck egg futures would be more profitable
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Post by PeterMac on 28.02.20 14:21

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/27/every-epidemic-make-mistake-time-learn/
"Although the coronavirus’ suspected mortality rate of  2 per cent sounds low, it’s about the same as that of the Spanish flu of 1918; and that virus killed between 40 and 100 million people. To contain coronavirus, therefore, we must be vigilant, perform far more tests, and we must not cut corners...."
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Post by BlueBag on 28.02.20 15:01

@PeterMac wrote:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/27/every-epidemic-make-mistake-time-learn/
"Although the coronavirus’ suspected mortality rate of  2 per cent sounds low, it’s about the same as that of the Spanish flu of 1918; and that virus killed between 40 and 100 million people. To contain coronavirus, therefore, we must be vigilant, perform far more tests, and we must not cut corners...."
"Suspected mortality rate".

It depends where you read.

The mainstream media isn't exactly renowned for truth.

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-worse-than-flu

"It depends on what you mean by "worse"..."


As for COVID-19, researchers are still scrambling to compile thorough and accurate data to understand how the disease works.
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Post by BlueBag on 28.02.20 15:03

The Express wrote:Coronavirus news: Flu a bigger threat than new virus, experts warn
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Post by PeterMac on 28.02.20 15:36

How many died in China before the virus was identified in this way ?
How many old people were recorded as pneumonia or chronic bronchitis, or simply buried in small towns and villages without any formal identification of the exact cause.

They have no real idea of the incubation period, or for how long before you show signs or report symptoms (which are different things) you are infectious.  They also have no real understanding of the length of time during which you are infectious. There is a suspicion that some people may be infectious whilst totally or relatively without symptoms.    They are known as Asymptomatic carriers, or Healthy carriers.   Like Typhoid Mary.

All self respecting viruses are trying to evolve in this way
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Post by BlueBag on 28.02.20 18:31

Yes.. we don't know.

Meanwhile the whole world is getting their chains yanked.

I suspect this is going to up their with CJD.

Lots of events are going to get cancelled this spring/summer... lots of new rules.
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Post by BlueBag on 01.03.20 14:38

But..... is it worse than Influensa A or B?

The answer is no.

But "they" are going to shut down the world anyway.

Oh the power.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 02.03.20 12:55

This truly amazing website has an hour-by-hour update on all the statistics you could possibly want to see about coronavirus, some of you might want to bookmark it:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

In the league table of known cases so far...

1 China:   80,026

2 South Korea:   4,335

3 Italy:  1,704

The UK comes in at 16th with 36 known cases so far.

San Marino has 8

Russia and Iceland have 3 each

Andorra has 1

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Post by BlueBag on 02.03.20 14:29

Does it record flu cases and compare stats?

Nope.

Because we all have to be afraid.
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Post by Verdi on 02.03.20 15:07

Coronavirus: How likely are you to die if you catch it – and what's the death rate?

As coronavirus continues to spread, we take a look at how likely it is you’ll die if you catch the killer bug which has spread rapidly across the world

The disease, which the World Health Organisation announced would be referred to as COVID-19, is a new strain of coronavirus which was first identified in Wuhan, China in December 2019.

According to the NHS , the symptoms of COVID-19 include a cough, high temperature and shortness of breath, and is thought to spread through droplets.

The UK Chief Medical Officers have raised the risk to the UK from low to moderate.

There have been more than 3,000 deaths worldwide, but how likely is it you’ll die if you catch it?

How likely you’ll die from coronavirus:

Researchers believe between five and 40 coronavirus cases out of 1,000 will result in death.

Their best guess is nine in 1,000, with a death rate at about 1%.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of the faculty of medicine at Imperial College London, told The Times: “We calculated with an enormous amount of uncertainty that 1% of those infected might die – with a fourfold margin of error in each direction.

“So a death rate of 0.25% of cases would be similar to the 1957 and 1968 influenza pandemics while a 4% rate would compare with the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic (with a death toll estimated at 40 million to 50 million).”

Meanwhile, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK government’s “very best assessment” was that the mortality rate was 2%, or “likely, lower”.

The likelihood of dying depends on a number of factors, including age, sex and general health.

On the government website, it explains: “Generally, coronavirus can cause more severe symptoms in people with weakened immune systems, older people, and those with long-term conditions like diabetes, cancer and chronic lung disease.”

According to the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, the death rate was 10 times higher in the very elderly compared to the middle-aged.

The lowest death rate was for the under 30s, where there were eight deaths in 4,500 cases.

People with diabetes, high blood pressure or heart or breathing problems were at least five more times more likely to die.

There was also a slightly higher number of men who died of coronavirus, compared to women.

It is worth keeping in mind it is too soon to have a complete picture of every type of person in every location.

For example, 80-year-old men in China have different risks to the same age group in Europe.

Research has also found that about 80% of coronavirus cars are mild.


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Post by Verdi on 02.03.20 15:15

Coronavirus: What are the chances of dying?

By Robert Cuffe Head of Statistics

   1 March 2020

Researchers currently think that between five and 40 coronavirus cases in 1,000 will result in death, with a best guess of nine in 1,000 or about 1%.

On Sunday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK government's "very best assessment" was that the mortality rate was "2% or, likely, lower".

But it depends on a range of factors: your age, sex and general health and the health system you are in.
How hard is it to work out the death rate?

It is PhD-level hard. Even counting cases is tricky.

Most cases of most viruses will go uncounted because people tend not to visit the doctor with mild symptoms.

The different death rates we are seeing reported around the world are unlikely to be due to different versions of the virus.

According to research by Imperial College, it's because different countries are better or worse at spotting the milder, harder to count cases.

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So under-reporting cases makes it easy to overestimate the death rate. But you can also get it wrong in the other direction.

It takes time before an infection results in recovery or death.

If you include all cases that haven't yet had a chance to run their course, you will underestimate the death rate because you are missing the cases that will end in death later.

   Coronavirus: All you need to know
   A visual guide to the outbreak

Scientists combine individual pieces of evidence about each of these questions to build a picture of the death rate.

For example, they estimate the proportion of cases with mild symptoms from small, defined groups of people who are monitored very tightly, like people on repatriated flights.

But slightly different answers from those pieces of evidence will add up to big changes in the overall picture.

If you just use data from Hubei, where the death rate has been much higher than elsewhere in China, then the overall death rate will look much worse.

So scientists give a range as well as a best current estimate.

But even that doesn't tell the full story because there is no single death rate.

   How is the UK getting ready for coronavirus?

What's the risk for people like me?

Some types of people are more likely to die if they contract coronavirus: the elderly, the unwell and, maybe, men.

In the first big analysis of more than 44,000 cases from China, the death rate was ten times higher in the very elderly compared to the middle-aged.

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The death rates were lowest for the under 30s - there were eight deaths in 4,500 cases.

And deaths were at least five times more common among people with diabetes, high blood pressure or heart or breathing problems.

There was even a slightly higher number of deaths among men compared to women.

All of these factors interact with each other and we don't yet have a complete picture of the risk for every type of person in every location.

What's the risk for people where I live?

A group of 80-year-old men in China could have very different risks to men of the same age in Europe or Africa.

Your prognosis also depends on the treatment you get.

In turn, that depends on what is available and the stage of the epidemic.

If the epidemic takes off, then healthcare systems could get swamped with cases - there are only so many intensive care units or ventilators available in any given area.

Is it more dangerous than flu?

We can't compare mortality rates because many people with mild flu symptoms choose never to visit a doctor.

So we don't know how many cases there are of flu, or any new virus every year.

But flu continues to kill people in the UK, as it does every winter.

As the data evolves, scientists will develop a clearer picture of who would be most at risk should a coronavirus outbreak arrive in the UK.

The basic advice from the WHO is that you can protect yourself from all respiratory viruses by washing your hands, avoiding people who are coughing and sneezing and trying not to touch your eyes, nose and mouth.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51674743
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They don't even know themselves do they  rolleyes .  It's scaremongering. I blame the Chinese.

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Post by sharonl on 02.03.20 20:56

@PeterMac wrote:(If a week ago you had shares worth £10,000, as of today they would be worth only £8,500)


Only if you now choose to sell them !

Perhaps Chinese duck egg futures would be more profitable

omgomg   bignono  This cannot be, the McCanns will be devastated if their investment falls in value. Being overdrawn on a student loan was bad enough for Gerry, but this?  He'll be mortified. 

Is Olive Oyl online? Quick, kick start that typewriter, we need to get this into The Sun tomorrow morning, can't miss an opportunity to ask for donations.

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Post by PeterMac on 03.03.20 10:33

Since it is becoming clear that males are more at risk than females, 
and that younger people are much safer than older ones . . .

Let it therefore be known . . .
I intend to self-identify as an adolescent girl until this virus has gone,
At which point I shall revert to being a gentleman of a certain age.
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Post by Verdi on 03.03.20 12:00

It's good to know the Prime Minister has got it all under control .... we are in safe hands - I think!

How I like to wear my boiler suit — Boris, you could learn a few things
Robert Crampton
Monday March 02 2020, The Times

Boris in a boiler suit is becoming almost a daily occurrence. We’ve seen him in a blue one at a Tetley factory. We’ve seen him in a white one with matching silly trilby at the Tayto potato plant. As London mayor he sported a fetching red number at a charity go-karting event. Yesterday he unveiled a yellow all-in-one with cute white wrist cuffs like on a seven-year-old’s pyjamas at Public Health England’s National Infection Service in north London. Which should surely be called the National Anti-Infection Service, but never mind that.

Boiler suits are a strangely tricky outfit to get right, and I don’t think Boris Johnson has nailed it yet, despite his extensive road-testing efforts. Too tight and you’re into Clockwork Orange territory, in which the so-called boiler suits were actually closer to cowboy onesie long johns, suitable for hobbling comically from the bunkhouse to the outhouse and getting shot, but not for governing the country.

Any piping and you’re channelling The Italian Job. Short-sleeved and unbuttoned and you’re in the video for Uptown Girl, miming into a monkey wrench about Christie Brinkley, and none of us wants to see our prime minister doing that.

Accessories are tricky. On no account should the boiler suit be accompanied by a hairnet. No germ is more deadly than a middle-aged man being photographed in a hairnet. A hard hat if needs be, maybe with the built-in ear defenders turned upwards, like antlers, maybe teamed with some scuffed-up steel-capped boots.

Never be tempted to sport a leather tool belt, hammers hanging sexily from a variety of loops. And don’t ever, even on the hottest day, roll the top of the suit down and knot the sleeves around your waist. Boris, son, you haven’t got the abs for it. None of us has. Except that bloke in the Diet Coke advert. And he’s probably chubbed up these days.

As for the main event, best to stick with classic navy, no cuffs, elasticated waist, zip and poppers down the front, slits in the legs to grab your fags out of your jeans underneath, discreet decal on the sleeve optional. Funnily enough, that’s precisely the model of boiler suit I’ve got, and it’s one of the many reasons I should be in Downing Street rather than Johnson.

I bet until a few months ago he thought that Personal Protective Equipment was the degree most of his mates did at Oxford. Whereas I’ve been all over workwear for years. I got my present gear in a hardware shop in south Wales, so it has a fine proletarian pedigree.

Not that I ever do anything remotely proletarian in my boiler suit. Never have. When I do manual tasks in the house, or even mucky tasks — gutter-flushing and suchlike — outdoors, I wear my normal clothes. They duly get dirty and my wife duly gives me a hard time.

The boiler suit, meanwhile, hangs pristine on the coat rack in the hall. I only put it on to sit at my desk to read, write and research; entirely white-collar, sedentary tasks, not a lump of metal, socket set or indeed boiler in sight.

Mind you, I’m in good company. Johnson’s hero Winston Churchill loved his siren suit, for the purposes of parading about and chilling out, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t tinker with any heating appliances while doing so.
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Boiler suits with matching accessories - à la mode    surgical mask

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Post by BlueBag on 03.03.20 12:50

Google wrote:How many people die from the flu in the UK?
"The average number of deaths in England for the last five seasons, 2014/15 to 2018/19, was 17,000 deaths annually. "
No Haz-Mat suits for flu?

Of course not.

This panic is getting ridculous.
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Post by Verdi on 06.03.20 11:36

I reckon this coronavirus malarkey is an EU plot against Britain to scupper exit, using the east to blame - as far away as possible, just like the McCann team did with their 'search' campaign.

big grin

The UK would appear to be floundering whilst further afield, officialdom is better appraised and aware of the extent of fake news the hysteria is generating - or is it the other way round?

Keep it up - there's nothing like a state of panic to bring the world to it's knees.

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Post by Verdi on 06.03.20 11:42

Meanwhile the porn industry continues to thrive..

Porn sites cash in on coronavirus, with dozens of films featuring people having sex in hazmat suits and masks

   The porn videos feature people in hazmat suits and hospital gowns
   Coronavirus has caused more than 3,200 deaths and infected 95,000
   Porn star insisted the videos are also educating people about coronavirus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8077473/Porn-sites-cash-coronavirus.html

.. and it would appear coronavirus accessories are becoming a fashion must have.  As if the catwalk isn't silly enough already.

Whatever floats yer boat I guess.

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Post by Verdi on 06.03.20 11:53

Hold-up .... I think I've got it! It's a cunning plan of deception to confound the 'search', courtesy of Netflix..

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surgical mask

Would you believe the celebrity they chose to promote maskman was none other than Anthony Summers, co-author of 'Looking for Madeleine'.

Sorry, I digress smilie .


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