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Post by CaKeLoveR 23.11.20 20:25

Nora should have been in her parent's room, not in the care of  siblings.  None of this is believable, imho.
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Post by PeterMac 04.01.21 6:57

Malaysian Coroner has ruled "misadventure" with NO EVIDENCE of any third party involvement.
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That must send shudders down the spines of a couple in Rothley.

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Nóra Quoirin: Coroner records schoolgirl jungle death as 'misadventure'

A London schoolgirl found dead on holiday in a Malaysian jungle died by misadventure, a coroner has recorded.
Nóra Quoirin, 15, from Balham, south-west London, was discovered dead nine days after she went missing from an eco-resort in August 2019.
A verdict of death by misadventure indicates it was an accident, rather than criminal.
Reacting to the verdict, Nóra's mother Meabh Quoirin said: "We will still fight for Nora's story to be heard."
Mrs Quoirin had told the inquest that she believed her daughter was abducted, and rejected the possibility that her daughter might have wandered off alone.
But a pathologist who carried out a second post-mortem examination told the inquest Nóra's body had no injuries to suggest she was attacked or restrained.
On the inquest's final day of evidence, an investigating officer who was on duty the morning Nóra was reported missing said he was confident there were no criminal elements involved in her disappearance.
Coroner Maimoonah Aid delivered her verdict on Monday after hearing evidence from 48 witnesses.

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Nóra's family, from Balham, were staying in Sora House in Dusun eco-resort near Seremban, about 40 miles (65km) south of Kuala Lumpur, when they reported Nóra missing, the day after they had arrived.
The 15-year-old, who was born with holoprosencephaly - a disorder which affects brain development - was eventually found by a group of civilian volunteers in a palm-oil plantation less than two miles from the holiday home.

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Post by PeterMac 04.01.21 8:13

All of which avoids another issue.
Why would an Irish mother drag an intellectually and motor impaired child half way across the world into an isolated cabin in a jungle?
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Post by CaKeLoveR 04.01.21 11:43

Early in the investigation, Nora's mother said that Nora didn't like the jungle, which suggests that she had been to such a place previously. Or, she had seen pictures, and said she didn't like it. But still they took her.
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Post by Daedalus 04.01.21 12:06

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Why would an Irish mother drag an intellectually and motor impaired child half way across the world into an isolated cabin in a jungle?

Because it fitted with her busy (global) schedule. From interviews and articles we get a very clear indication of the personality type of the mother: her career came before everything, leaving the downtrodden and dispirited father to look after the children. As a type she's more Gerry than Kate.
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Post by miffy8 04.01.21 16:57

A verdict of death by misadventure indicates it was an accident, rather than criminal.
Reacting to the verdict, Nóra's mother Meabh Quoirin said: "We will still fight for Nora's story to be heard."
Mrs Quoirin had told the inquest that she believed her daughter was abducted, and rejected the possibility that her daughter might have wandered off alone.
But a pathologist who carried out a second post-mortem examination told the inquest Nóra's body had no injuries to suggest she was attacked or restrained.


This case is now in danger of fizzling out like a spent firework with a 'misadventure' verdict. As a parent, wouldn't you be wholeheartedly relieved that the findings showed no signs of an attack and leave it at that? Does she/they feel cheated out of a long drawn out abduction investigation I wonder? There's no evidence to suggest there was one but there was a window and we all know a good story about that.    

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Post by Ladyinred 04.01.21 18:04

"We still fight for Nora's story to be heard".  What psychobabble.

The Coroner has published his verdict.  Whatever individuals believe happened, is exactly that - a belief - and obviously does not equate with the evidence presented.

RIP Nora.
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Post by PeterMac 19.01.21 8:14

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The parents of a British teenager who was found dead in the Malaysian jungle have called for a review of the inquest into her death, as they believe somebody “placed” her body in a clearing. 
A coroner in Malaysia said this month that no third party was involved in the death of Nóra Quoirin, from Balham in south London, and she probably died from misadventure.
The 15-year-old vanished from her room at the Dusun rainforest resort in August 2019 and was found nine days later. 
A post-mortem examination concluded she had likely starved and died from internal bleeding. 
Her parents, however, find it incomprehensible that she would have left the resort of her own volition as she suffered from serious learning difficulties and would have been "petrified" at the prospect.
Meabh Quoirin, her mother, said she thought Nora had been abducted and vowed that the family would “never give up their fight for justice”. 
She told the BBC that the jungle had been searched on four occasions in seven days before Nora’s body was discovered.
Ms Quoirin continued: “The fact that search teams were there, along with many hundreds of volunteers in that particular area so close to her death, makes us feel that she was placed there at a later point.”
She said the inquest had not explained how Nora had ended up in the jungle, where her body was found, unclothed, by a group of volunteers. 
The family have for a revision of the inquest verdict as "so many questions have been left unanswered"

Be careful what you wish for.
Another couple have found that it may backfire.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 19.01.21 10:25

'Ended up in the jungle'? Not a wise remark, was it.
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Post by miffy8 19.01.21 14:27

The disappearance and death of Nora Quoirin are potentially greater in complexity than the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. I can see no evidence that the McCann case was anything more than the coverup of a tragic accident for the reasons of self-preservation on the part of the parents. The coverup of the coverup on the other hand has, I feel, long since been anything to do with them, but it suits their purposes and affords them protection. And so it goes on, ad Infinitum
However, the Nora Quoirin story appears much less straightforward although initial similarities of a cry of abduction and continued insistence that an un-evidenced based abduction occurred are dominant features of both cases. The Quoirin case returned a verdict of misadventure but Nora's parents are not satisfied with it and, in spite of lack of evidence to the contrary, continue to maintain that their daughter was the victim of an abduction.  It is this very protraction of the insistence of the guilt of someone, anyone, and the rejection of a blameless outcome that indicates to me that they had some involvement in the disappearance of their daughter while the blame has officially been laid at no-ones door. 
Raising children is not an easy business but raising a child with impairments undoubtedly presents unimaginable challenges that can have a profound effect on the mental health and wellbeing of the parents over time. I am exploring the possibility with this in mind, that the tragic death of Nora Quoirin might have happened after she was either left temporarily for wandering off from her exasperated parents or perhaps for punishment for a prior misdemeanour and then could not be found. I venture to suggest that a mixture of embarrassment and guilt surrounding this could have caused them to conceal the 'truth' of such a situation forcing them to delay raising the alarm to support a fabricated night-time abduction scenario. 

I am, however firmly not of the opinion that she was cruelly and intentionally left to perish.
  
When thinking in more depth about this case, the story of a 7 year- old Japanese boy, Yamato Tanooka, abandoned in a bear-infested forest some years ago by his parents as a punishment immediately sprang to mind.
     Yamato Tanooka, 7, was found inside a military barracks for the Self-Defense Forces (SDF) near Shikabe in northern Hokkaido, about two-and-a-half miles from where his parents left him for misbehaving six nights earlier, reports said.

Little Yamato survived freezing temperatures at night and heavy rainfall wearing only a t-shirt and jeans, and suffered only minor scrapes and a low body temperature, the Guardian reported.
He was taken to a hospital to be kept overnight, authorities said.
“He was incredibly calm considering he had been missing for 7 days,” a doctor who assessed Yamato told reporters. “He didn’t panic at all.”
Yamato’s parents made him get out of their car on a mountain road because he was throwing stones at cars and people, Hokkaido Prefectural Police said.
When they went back to the spot where they left him, the boy was gone.
The parents originally told police their son had become lost while they were out hiking to gather wild vegetables, but later told the truth about the circumstances of his disappearance.
"I couldn't bring myself to make the request [for the search] and give the reason [for him being missing] as it is because of a punishment," the boy’s father, Takayuki Tanooka, told reporters in Japanese.
An SDF official was on a drill when he found the child in the one-story hut without heat, authorities said. He was curled up on a mattress when he was found.
“He looked well and didn’t appear to have lost any weight. He’s safe – that’s the most important thing. I’m so relieved,” a tearful Takayuki Tanooka told TV Asahi.
More than 180 rescuers had been searching for Yamato, with the military joining the search on Wednesday.
The boy’s dad apologized after his son was found, saying: “My excessive act caused my son to have a painful time. I deeply apologize to people at his school, people in the rescue operation, and everybody for causing them trouble.”
He also thanked the search crews for their work in bringing Yamato home.
"I have poured all my love into my son, but from now on, I would want to do more, together with him," Takayuki Tanooka said. "I would like to protect him while he grows up.







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