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Post by sallypelt 20.09.15 17:07

So, there you have it. Those who have read the PJ files have been wasting their time, because "Brain of Britain" has stated:

Jasmine  @alfibab3
@Jobaker46 @miffedchi SY have the real files not the files translated by an anti #McCann.

We DEMAND the "REAL files"
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Post by sallypelt 22.09.15 10:21

This is a corker:

Dara Anthony @dara_amthony
Take money out, give it to someone who then gives it back to the "fund". Fund appears to increase but no new money involved #McCann



When I take money out of my bank account, the total goes down, not up. Am I being scammed? spit coffee








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Post by DaTroof 22.09.15 11:20

sallypelt wrote:This is a corker:

Dara Anthony @dara_amthony
Take money out, give it to someone who then gives it back to the "fund". Fund appears to increase but no new money involved #McCann



When I take money out of my bank account, the total goes down, not up. Am I being scammed? spit coffee










 Dara may have a point. The fund total is simply the total amount that has been donated. Withdrawals to not affect this total so it would, in theory, be possible for the fund admin to withdraw money & use it to make a new donation or donations thereby increasing the total amount donated without any new money coming into the fund.
I have no idea whether such a thing has been done in this case, but it is theoretically possible.
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Post by LG 22.09.15 11:33

I'm sorry but you are incorrect.

During the history of the Go Fund Me site a donation was made, by a person who wishes to remain anonymous, and then they requested a refund of their donation. 

It was duly made and the total amount in the fund fell by the amount refunded.

A certain contingent continue to try to cast aspersions regarding running / legality of the Go Fund Me site - to date they have failed at every attempt.
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Post by Jill Havern 22.09.15 11:36

LG wrote:I'm sorry but you are incorrect.

During the history of the Go Fund Me site a donation was made, by a person who wishes to remain anonymous, and then they requested a refund of their donation. 

It was duly made and the total amount in the fund fell by the amount refunded.

A certain contingent continue to try to cast aspersions regarding running / legality of the Go Fund Me site - to date they have failed at every attempt.
The same happened when that truly awful post about Leanne Baulch being dead was rejected and the total went down by the £5 that was donated.

Or is that the anonymous donation you are referring to?
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Post by LG 22.09.15 11:45

No, the one I was referring to was before that (the person is now an ex-member of this site) - I had actually forgotten about that disgusting "donation" - but it just credence to that fact that spreading untruths serves no purpose.  The truth will out!
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Post by sallypelt 22.09.15 11:52

LG wrote:No, the one I was referring to was before that (the person is now an ex-member of this site) - I had actually forgotten about that disgusting "donation" - but it just credence to that fact that spreading untruths serves no purpose.  The truth will out!
Oh, come on. Let's not beat about the bush. He donated £5 for whatever reason (though he/she tried to convince those on Twitter that he had donated £500) then immediately asked for the £5 back. The id of the person in question is David Steel. A disgusting perv.

There! I've got that off my chest.

Now I have to go out into the big wide world.
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Post by kinell 22.09.15 12:01

sallypelt wrote:
LG wrote:No, the one I was referring to was before that (the person is now an ex-member of this site) - I had actually forgotten about that disgusting "donation" - but it just credence to that fact that spreading untruths serves no purpose.  The truth will out!
Oh, come on. Let's not beat about the bush. He donated £5 for whatever reason (though he/she tried to convince those on Twitter that he had donated £500) then immediately asked for the £5 back. The id of the person in question is David Steel. A disgusting perv.

There! I've got that off my chest.

Now I have to go out into the big wide world.
I didn't know it was David Steel who wrote that! Jeez!

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Post by sallypelt 19.10.15 21:31

I wonder how true this is:

Annienonymous2 @annienonymouss
Why are the #mccann couple so reluctant to let the public know about their recent re-interviews under caution?
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Post by aiyoyo 20.10.15 0:48

sallypelt wrote:I wonder how true this is:

Annienonymous2 @annienonymouss
Why are the #mccann couple so reluctant to let the public know about their recent re-interviews under caution?
Retweeted by ditsychick

The hagtag/mccann attracts loads of trolling, so who knows if this is not another one of those !
Even if true, it would have to be someone very close to Mccanns to leak it, and I can't see that happening.
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Post by willowthewisp 21.10.15 12:32

Getermgoncalo,
Let us hope that all files relating to the CMoMM site are safely stored as a back up file, after all the fuss of the wayback CEOP poster,shenanigans at work?
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Post by Hobs 21.10.15 14:41

sallypelt wrote:So, there you have it. Those who have read the PJ files have been wasting their time, because "Brain of Britain" has stated:

Jasmine  @alfibab3
@Jobaker46 @miffedchi SY have the real files not the files translated by an anti #McCann.

We DEMAND the "REAL files"
This tickled me.
The mccann supporters claim the files  translated by the mccann 'anti's' is incorrect and has been wrongly translated.
The mccanns claimed they spent £100,000 having the files translated into English.

I pointed out, that, if the files had been wrongly translated as claimed, and that the mccanns version of the selfsame files were in fact correctly translated as claimed, then why have the mccanns not published the correctly translated files.
They could then point out where the files had been wrongly translated and publish the correct translation which would paint them in a position of innocence, truthfullness and doing everything they can to find Maddie.

To date, the mccanns have failed to publish said correctly translated files.

This means that the files that the anti's are claiming to be wrongly translated are, in fact, correctly translated.

It also leads to the assumption that the £100,000 allegedly spent by the mccanns on having the files translated, was not in fact spent on said translations, rather it was possibly whoosh clucked away somewhere 'safe' or spent on something for which is was not intended.
Not a surprise given their avarice and  continuous deception regarding searching, ongoing litigation against anyone who disbelieves their version of events

It also leads to the assumption that the mccanns actually used the translated files as provided freely and willingly by Portuguese speakers who support Maddie, whilst claiming otherwise.

If the mccanns have the correctly translated files why have they still not released them, given it would support their version of events and their cooperation.
It would be in their best interest to have them out in the public arena.

Could it be that such files allegedly paid for by the mccanns do not exist and the files translated by 'anti mccanns' are the only ones available and are correctly translated, revealing the mccanns and chums to be the liars they truly are, involved in the death and subsequent disposal and cover up of Madeleine McCann?

I call you out on the files kate and gerry and chums.

If you have your own translated files, files which support your claims of innocence, release them to us, the public.
Show us where our translations are erroneous.

If you don't, then I and the world at large know you are liars (no surprise there) and, if you can lie about having files translated at a cost of £100,000, what else are you lying about?

If the mccann supporters claim regarding the translations being wrong is correct, when can i expect to see the 'correctly' translated files, paid for from the fund, released to the public and all the incorrect translations highlighted and the correct translations provided.
their 'correctly' translated files which prove they played no part in Maddie's death and subsequent disposal?

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Post by plebgate 21.10.15 21:50

Tony Bennett was hauled before a British criminal court by them.

I believe there would have been every opportunity for their legal team to have told the court that Tony had based his opinions on wrongly tranlated files were that the case.   I have to wonder why this was not done if in fact the files are incorrect.

I also wonder why Mr. Clarence Mitchel (as their spokesperson) has not, to my knowledge,  made it perfectly clear that the files are incorrect.
 
Detective Andy Redwood reportedly told S&S to look up the online files when they were after info. for their "best selling" titter  book.  As far as I know the only files on line are the translated ones done free of charge.

If I am wrong, would some kind person please post a link to the correct £100,000 version.

Thanks in advance.
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Post by Carrry On Doctor 28.10.15 15:07

Not sure if posted already......

From Kikorattan (Dewi Lennard)

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In two interviews, two months apart, Robert Murat furnished the PJ with two very different accounts of his activities on 2 and 3 May 2007. The PJ spotted the inconsistencies - they could hardly miss them - but were never allowed to follow up. There are several interesting features of Murat's conflicting accounts, but the most obvious is that he was told to make himself scarce from his home, Casa Liliana, during practically the whole of 3 May. Which, of course, was the day when Kate McCann declared the abduction-that-never-was. He was also ordered not to use his mobile, for the good reason that it would have sent signals to the antennas wherever he went, thus giving away his movements, for which he could be held to account. Better to be able to tell half a story (even if you forget it two months later), than to be found out in a direct lie.
For me, the crucial question is: why did Murat have to spend the day driving aimlessly around, and wasting the time of an acquaintance whom he unaccountably invited to spend the afternoon with him at a local Golf Club? The answer, as demonstrated by a curious pattern of calls on the fixed line of Casa Liliana, is that the Murat house was being used for a purpose related to the imminent declaration of "abduction", by a group of people who I take to include the brains behind the scam. Gerry McCann doesn't qualify for that description, though I strongly suspect that he was present. It is very possible that the person who left 12 (sometimes said to be 14) voicemail messages on Gerry's mobile on the previous day, was amongst those present.
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Post by Jill Havern 06.02.16 18:58

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I have no boundaries as I don't work with/for the Justice system anymore. I can talk about whatever I want! #McCann won't appreciate it.

N.M@AdirenM  2h2 hours ago  
Unlike #McCann defenders I have no master. I've worked many years for the state, and still do as a professor.But I can now speak about crime

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Post by plebgate 07.02.16 23:17

He has no master but WILL he speak about whatever it is he is hinting at?

I hope it is not just another "teaser".   I do wish people would just say what they have to say.
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Post by sallypelt 21.02.16 15:52

Katie Hopkins @KTHopkins 16 mins16 minutes ago
Katie Hopkins Retweeted Katie Hopkins
Time to tell the truth behind the lies around Kate & Gerry McCann. My new column @MailOnline out soon
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Post by Joannep43 21.02.16 16:12

Re Katie Hopkins ,just wondering whose " truth and lies " she will be accounting in the column she is paid to write.Katie Hopkins has quite of following,maybe she's just the person to put people" straight" and appeal to the less informed.
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Post by Guest 21.02.16 16:22

sallypelt wrote:Katie Hopkins @KTHopkins 16 mins16 minutes ago
Katie Hopkins Retweeted Katie Hopkins
Time to tell the truth behind the lies around Kate & Gerry McCann. My new column @MailOnline out soon
Don't tell me KH is going to steal SP's thunder big grin Or maybe she's a big fan of RDH  thumbsup
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Post by pennylane 21.02.16 16:30

Joannep43 wrote:Re Katie Hopkins ,just wondering whose " truth and lies " she will be accounting  in the column she is paid to write.Katie Hopkins has quite of following,maybe she's just the person to put people" straight" and appeal to the less informed.
She lives to offend, so not sure she will sway minds one way or the other, but the more people speak out regarding the McCann farce, the better.
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Post by Joannep43 21.02.16 16:45

That could be the intention of the article for it to be offensive.Katie Hopkins will get the backlash,stir debate and then "how can people question the McCanns what awful people".I agree the more people who speak out the better.The few tweets she has sent really give nothing away .Hope I'm wrong but it's just my opinion.
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Post by sallypelt 21.02.16 23:24

Madeleine CaseTweets @McCannCaseTweet
Holly Cow..the counter for official police files for #mccann case is moving at unreal speed
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Post by worriedmum 22.02.16 10:10

sallypelt wrote:Madeleine CaseTweets @McCannCaseTweet
Holly Cow..the counter for official police files for #mccann case is moving at unreal speed
Who is Holly Cow? laughat
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Post by Carrry On Doctor 03.03.16 12:14

Not sure if this is in the right place, but Kikoratton has been tweeting lately. I thought this last tweet (of several within the space of a few hours) was interesting...what would connect Robert Naylor and Gerry McCann ?

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sod09c

(With thanks to Dewi Lennard)

Why would McCann do this? McCann signed EN into creche SIX times in all. He has never admitted (nor been asked, as far as I know) to a friendship with her father. And yet the identical handwriting, and the near 100% proximity, time-wise, in entering both names in the register, tells me that they had a certain "arrangement" going on between them at the Ocean Club. Here's how it would work: I don't believe that EN's father attended the act of signing-in. Gerry - and I imagine another person, in which case probably a female - drop off two girls at the attendance book. One is EN. The other is purportedly (one of Gerry's favourite words!) Madeleine McCann. I DON'T BELIEVE MADELEINE McCANN EVER ATTENDED THE CRECHE. My position is this: Maddie went missing during this period. What the heck is Gerry doing, repeatedly signing-in a second girl who wasn't one of the so-called Tapas Group and of whom we've been told nothing? Are the two events connected? You bet they are. More later!
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Post by Carrry On Doctor 04.03.16 12:01

More from Dewi....

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sod53c

Remember that the signing-in of EN by Gerry McCann started on the morning of Sunday 29 April - the very first day on which the new intake attended the Ocean Club creche. That tells us that the scam was already in place (that is, it had been planned in advance), and that the real Madeleine McCann was never going to attend. Once a substitute was in place, she had to be kept going! And just because she kept going, the creche staff genuinely believed that the child presented as Madeleine McCann really was her. How should they be expected to know otherwise? Now we can understand why the McCanns had a photo of a two-year-old Maddie, little more than a baby, ready to be printed-off on the night of 3 May. That image got hard-wired into the police and public brain. By the time subsequent photos were released to the Press, and the carers had been dispersed to Greece and other destinations, small differences between the face and hair of the girl who attended the creche, and the many different faces of Maddie beamed by newspapers and TV, could no longer be brought to mind. #McCann


and...

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sod5jk

If Maddie had really attended the Lobster group from 29 April to the afternoon of 3 May, then Gerry wouldn't have required the services of Robert Naylor as co-conspirator, allowing his three-year-old daughter to be taken by Gerry to the creche. What purpose would it have served? #McCann
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Could someone  post the "Wider Agenda" flipchart photograph for comparison, please?

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Edited to add, I have a pic of the Chart, but if someone could post a close up of it, on here, I would be grateful.
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Post by Jill Havern 04.03.16 13:28

sallypelt wrote:Twitter (News and important information only please) - Page 2 Ccjr5_SW4AE9PeG


Could someone  post the "Wider Agenda" flipchart photograph for comparison, please?

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Edited to add, I have a pic of the Chart, but if someone could post a close up of it, on here, I would be grateful.
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Post by sallypelt 04.03.16 13:36

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
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Could someone  post the "Wider Agenda" flipchart photograph for comparison, please?

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Edited to add, I have a pic of the Chart, but if someone could post a close up of it, on here, I would be grateful.
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Thank you, GeG. There's no doubt that the Elizabeth Naylor signature, and Gerry McCann's writing, is one and the same. Look at the "R"  and the "A" for example. There is no mistake that they are both written by the same person.


Also, look at the "H" in Elizabeth, and the "H" in The Wider Agenda

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Post by worriedmum 04.03.16 13:59

The 'R' in 'Naylor' and 'overview look very similar IMO
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Post by Roidininki 04.03.16 14:03

Just an observance but similar is not a  good  example  of  proving something?
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