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Post by Verdi 11.11.15 12:02

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Bugger - whatever you wrote has been deleted but judging by the general tenor of your post I've no doubt your were spot on!  There is no proof that this individual has mental health issues, at least not in accordance with the recognized definition.  She spouts a heck of a lot about various aspects of her past and then regularly contradicts herself - how then can you believe a word she says?  Even her opinion of the case of MBM changes like the wind every time she writes on the subject.  Not because of any new developments that might sway opinion but because she writes as her belly guides her and/or makes it up as she goes along."]
Clearly an attention seeker, a duplicitous fraud and a dangerous manipulative hussy.  So much for the Untold Story of Madeleine McCann if H-RH has contributed to the production.  I thought Swan and Edgars 'Looking for Madeleine' was detrimental to discovering the truth but this individual goes way beyond even their machinations.  Don't these people that sing her praises read and remember what she writes, don't they realize how she contradicts herself from one day to the next and even when reminded insists that everything she writes stands up to scrutiny?

For god sake, this isn't about personal advancement, financial reward, ego - it's about a little child that has disappeared off the face of the earth.  It would be well for H-RH to remember that when she's up to her usual tricks.

You didn't miss much despite the deletion. I said she's a liar.  She lies about TB, lies that the documentary was commissioned, never mind she's persistently telling lies about people.

Ignoring her isn't going to help as it only serves her purpose.
As you correctly observed, no one knows the veracity of her self confessed mental health issue .
But what seems clear is, it's a card she had used to get herself out of trouble when it suited her.
Look how she exploits it when she was pulled up on MMM over her comments in the Sun - she pulled out that card and forum owner had to urge people to back off just in case.  Happens everywhere she goes.  She stirs up and when confronted she tries to backtrack denying she ever said this or that when the evidence are still littered all over fora and her blog, the latter a platform she has total control over censorship.
She uses twitter and her blog (directly or indirectly) to slag off, denigrate and lies about people but when she's called out she likes to play the victim.Nothing I said about her isn't already put forward by her or something she trips herself up on. But given her propensity to lie, twist things and dramatize, people in turn are mindful all because she uses her self confessed condition willy nilly to suit her convenience.
She's even indirectly admitted to telling porkies.  One occasion I recall when challenged, she passed it of as poetic licence (my words not hers).  Another time I believe she more or less said that she can never be called to task for what she writes or says because of her mental health issues.

Oh I almost forgot the obligatory lol, which I presume to cover every evil she spews forth as 'I was only joking M'lud ...'

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Post by Verdi 11.11.15 12:17

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance regarding the Mccanns and their deliberate involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?  

I'm wondering,  given Poulton's latest excuse whether she is trying to redeem herself for was is to come.?
I know the Mccanns probably don't even know who she is despite her assertions that they have ' tried to destroy het for 8 year's but perhaps she's preparing for a new tack in that she has never attacked and the Mccanns are more sinned against than sinning?
This latest comment from the blogspot might add weight to your thoughts..

At some point the forum owner will have to understand that Tony's lack of boundaries might end with several of them in the dock. For 8+ years his 'research' and 'work' has been devoted to attacking people, from the McCanns, to selected members of their entourage and family (who can forget HIS weirdo obsession with quicksand) to fellow antis. The CMoMM is a catalogue of libel!

If you haven't already done so - take a look.  What is she saying - attack is the best form of defence?

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Post by Tony Bennett 11.11.15 12:50

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance regarding the McCanns and their deliberate involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?  
It is hard to apply logic and reason to Hutton's meandering articles which often flatly contradict what she has said in previous posts.

There are a number of factors at work here. One is the desperate need for attention. Rather like media 'shock jocks', she has a tendency to say anything, no matter how outrageous, just to get attention. It has been a successful strategy. She has followers on Twitter and many people (though fewer than before) read her blog.

Another factor has been her alliance with Sonia Poulton, which if I'm not mistaken began about the end of 2013 and reached its height (or should I say 'depth') with (A) the Sun 'I am an anti-McCann bitch' article in February and (B) her participation in the Sonia Poulton documentary that never was and never will be.

Both of these women have brawn and cunning. I cannot eliminate from my mind that all that they have done - often in combination with each other - over the past 15 months or so, will culminate in a pro-McCann piece.

I have also read Mark Willis' and Verdi's contributions just now. The continuation of Hutton's grossly unfair attacks on CMOMM are clear evidence of an agenda.

A possible endgame for Poulton & Hutton might be to criticise the McCanns for leaving the children alone, at the same time uncover some new 'information' which suggests that an abductor really did kill Madeleine in the apartment (in line therefore with Operation Grange) and end up by condemning the likes of CMOMM and its members for having libeled the McCanns by suggesting that they might have covered up Madeleine's death.

We don't know what new surprises or shock lie in wait for us when DCI Nicola Wall eventually explains why they are shelving their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.

That explanation may come sooner than we think



ETAThis recent tweet today on Twitter is just sooooo unkind to St. Sonia:

Milk Tray ‏@ BitesNBytes 1h 1 hour ago
@ SoniaPoulton When are you and sidekick Muttonly appearing in your Untold bollocks? Even Chilcot is gonna beat you to it [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


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Post by Verdi 11.11.15 20:16

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Then there's Jim Gamble and Clarence Mitchell... a sleazier pair of McCann defending Establishment thugs figures you'd be hard pressed to find! Probably both in SS.  

Yes, someone/something big is behind the McCann facade that's for sure, and like you say they are being funded/kept afloat by whomever that is.


As ugly as it may seem, there are but few things on a mass scale going on in the UK (and beyond) that might include insignificant personages such as the MCanns but primarily concern the upper echalon of society aka the establishment.

To get back on track, this is a very recent tweet from the director of 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann' ..

Sonia Poulton@SoniaPoulton  7 hrs7 hours agoother e  
People tweeting #GordonBrown is back. Good. Anyone want to ask him about special relationship with #McCann case. He refused to answer us
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Investigative journalism is a specialist area, there is a vast difference between that and a run of the mill reporter who will only churn out one off reports relative to current news or whatever subject matter they might favour.  Then there is the 'fringe' (for the want of a better word) genre of self styled journalist, who essentially latch on to any current social affairs issue, find a willing listener like Sky daytime sofa chat to give them a platform - sort of would be if I could be bone-fide journalist.  IMO Ms Poulton is the latter, confirmed I think by the above tweet.

Investigative journalism doesn't begin and end with being filmed sticking a microphone in someone's face and demanding answers - that appears to be the limit of Ms Poulton's ability, that and short YouTube videos.  Whether one has something to hide or not, who would take kindly to being stalked by a microphone and video camera?  I wouldn't, I'd tell them to 'bleeeep off' in now uncertain terms?  There is nothing positive to be gained by this approach, a true journalist would know instinctively how to extract information from their target and that doesn't include hijacking on the street or doorstep making unreasonable demands, like she apparently did to Kate McCann - of course Gordon Brown would refuse to answer us.  Who wouldn't refuse?

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Post by Joss 12.11.15 5:33

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance regarding the Mccanns and their deliberate involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?  

I'm wondering,  given Poulton's latest excuse whether she is trying to redeem herself for was is to come.?
I know the Mccanns probably don't even know who she is despite her assertions that they have ' tried to destroy het for 8 year's but perhaps she's preparing for a new tack in that she has never attacked and the Mccanns are more sinned against than sinning?
This latest comment from the blogspot might add weight to your thoughts..

At some point the forum owner will have to understand that Tony's lack of boundaries might end with several of them in the dock. For 8+ years his 'research' and 'work' has been devoted to attacking people, from the McCanns, to selected members of their entourage and family (who can forget HIS weirdo obsession with quicksand) to fellow antis. The CMoMM is a catalogue of libel!

If you haven't already done so - take a look.  What is she saying - attack is the best form of defence?
She invites criticism and then wonders why people are taking a shot at her, and then goes into lengthy diatribes about her counter attack of them.
And what is her obsession with people using a username online? Why does she want people's real identities to be posted? Sounds a bit suss to me with the way people get trolled online, and it's no wonder they don't reveal their true identities, i wouldn't. It's no one else's business what a person calls themselves online, IMO.

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Post by sallypelt 12.11.15 10:32

So, the "dying cesspit" has been extremely busy the last few days, and "over the road" the forum that has such a glowing report for its growing members and activity, has been almost at a standstill.

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Post by snook 12.11.15 11:22

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:So, the "dying cesspit" has been extremely busy the last few days, and "over the road" the forum that has such a glowing report for its growing members and activity, has been almost at a standstill.

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You could Sally and she does!
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Post by Tony Bennett 12.11.15 22:23

Just placing this information from the 'Trollexposure' blog on the record:

QUOTE>>>  Today Twitter have also permanently suspended James Noel Haydon's abusive @challengegovuk account.  UNQUOTE

James Noel Haydon is a Sonia Poulton acolyte and fellow internet troll, pictured here at the Brenda Leyland Inquest (right of Poulton):

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Post by jeanmonroe 13.11.15 9:40

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Just placing this information from the 'Trollexposure' blog on the record:

QUOTE>>>  Today Twitter have also permanently suspended James Noel Haydon's abusive @challengegovuk account.  UNQUOTE

James Noel Haydon is a Sonia Poulton acolyte and fellow internet troll, pictured here at the Brenda Leyland Inquest (right of Poulton):

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Don't 'suppose' SP will be 'quoting' any time soon, '"We are judged by the company we keep." or 'I will be judged by the company, I keep'

I will 'be judged', proudly, without 'fear or favour, ill will or malice', by the 'company' i keep, on this forum! (I 'hope'!  winkwink )
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Post by hogwash 13.11.15 9:58

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Just placing this information from the 'Trollexposure' blog on the record:

QUOTE>>>  Today Twitter have also permanently suspended James Noel Haydon's abusive @challengegovuk account.  UNQUOTE

James Noel Haydon is a Sonia Poulton acolyte and fellow internet troll, pictured here at the Brenda Leyland Inquest (right of Poulton):

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He's a member of the MMM forum along with Cristobell and Andrew isn't he?
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Post by Liz Eagles 15.11.15 16:33

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance regarding the Mccanns and their deliberate involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?  

I'm wondering,  given Poulton's latest excuse whether she is trying to redeem herself for was is to come.?
I know the Mccanns probably don't even know who she is despite her assertions that they have ' tried to destroy het for 8 year's but perhaps she's preparing for a new tack in that she has never attacked and the Mccanns are more sinned against than sinning?
This latest comment from the blogspot might add weight to your thoughts..

At some point the forum owner will have to understand that Tony's lack of boundaries might end with several of them in the dock. For 8+ years his 'research' and 'work' has been devoted to attacking people, from the McCanns, to selected members of their entourage and family (who can forget HIS weirdo obsession with quicksand) to fellow antis. The CMoMM is a catalogue of libel!

If you haven't already done so - take a look.  What is she saying - attack is the best form of defence?
Yesterday, when most people were reeling from the atrocities of heinous acts of terrorism, the forums were dumb and the UK media was reporting, Cristobell was publishing one of her longer diatribes about people on this forum. Verdi got the first mention and I came a close second - you bugger Verdi you - I didn't come first, along with Snook, Plebgate, BlueBag, Aiyoyo and Tigger.

This completely vacuous blog was about anonymity. It allowed anonymous posts on the blog, direct insults towards Tony Bennett (direct insults allowed about Tony Bennett are always a winner). This blog also praised the MMM forum which Cristobell almost destroyed and came with a personal commendation from Cristobell herself that she hoped 'Andrew' would be allowed back on that forum. This would be the Andrew who called up Tony Bennett in the early hours to threaten him - and this comment about wishing Andrew to be re-admitted to the forum comes from Cristobell who allowed comments on her blog calling Tony Bennett a paedophile whilst she herself (Cristobell) wrote [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on Twitter relating to Tony Bennett.

This blog is supposedly about anonymity. It's not. It's about self gratification. Who in their right mind would wish to engage with Cristobell in their own name (apart from Sonia Poulton who exploited her not once but twice)?

I'd rather trust an angry snake than either of these two ladies and I've lived in countries with real snakes. Black mamba/baumslang v slimy Mrs Angry from Kent, I'd take the snake every time.

ETA: since posting I see that Cristobell is offering up a new blog on MMM concerning France and kindly giving her permission for it to be copied and pasted there.

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Post by Tony Bennett 15.11.15 17:53

aquila wrote:
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance
This latest comment from the blogspot might add weight to your thoughts..

At some point the forum owner will have to understand that Tony's lack of boundaries...
Yesterday...Cristobell was publishing... 

MOD: Posters, stay on topic, please.
The Moderator is right, we have drifted from discussing Sonia's documentary.

The only sensible thing I can say about it is that it is now DAY 406 since the documentary was first promised in a short video dated 7 October 2014, closely followed by her cameraman Dave Eden a couple of days later saying on another video that it would be 'out within a week'.

If nothing else, this thread records all that hasn't happened - and why it hasn't happened - since then

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Post by Liz Eagles 15.11.15 18:01

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aquila wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance
This latest comment from the blogspot might add weight to your thoughts..

At some point the forum owner will have to understand that Tony's lack of boundaries...
Yesterday...Cristobell was publishing... 

MOD: Posters, stay on topic, please.
The Moderator is right, we have drifted from discussing Sonia's documentary.

The only sensible thing I can say about it is that it is now DAY 406 since the documentary was first promised in a short video dated 7 October 2014, closely followed by her cameraman Dave Eden a couple of days later saying on another video that it would be 'out within a week'.

If nothing else, this thread records all that hasn't happened - and why it hasn't happened - since then
It's nearing the end of 2015, I wonder what the 2016 list of Poulton excuses will be.
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Post by willowthewisp 15.11.15 20:12

No doubt to be broadcast at Xmas with a Morcambe & Wise special,"Bring me sunshine in your smile" or Answer any Questions,except for PJ ones?
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Post by Verdi 15.11.15 23:32

aquila wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is it me or is Hutton trying to change stance regarding the Mccanns and their deliberate involvement in Madeleine's disappearance?  

I'm wondering,  given Poulton's latest excuse whether she is trying to redeem herself for was is to come.?
I know the Mccanns probably don't even know who she is despite her assertions that they have ' tried to destroy het for 8 year's but perhaps she's preparing for a new tack in that she has never attacked and the Mccanns are more sinned against than sinning?
This latest comment from the blogspot might add weight to your thoughts..

At some point the forum owner will have to understand that Tony's lack of boundaries might end with several of them in the dock. For 8+ years his 'research' and 'work' has been devoted to attacking people, from the McCanns, to selected members of their entourage and family (who can forget HIS weirdo obsession with quicksand) to fellow antis. The CMoMM is a catalogue of libel!

If you haven't already done so - take a look.  What is she saying - attack is the best form of defence?
Yesterday, when most people were reeling from the atrocities of heinous acts of terrorism, the forums were dumb and the UK media was reporting, Cristobell was publishing one of her longer diatribes about people on this forum. Verdi got the first mention and I came a close second - you bugger Verdi you - I didn't come first, along with Snook, Plebgate, BlueBag, Aiyoyo and Tigger.

This completely vacuous blog was about anonymity. It allowed anonymous posts on the blog, direct insults towards Tony Bennett (direct insults allowed about Tony Bennett are always a winner). This blog also praised the MMM forum which Cristobell almost destroyed and came with a personal commendation from Cristobell herself that she hoped 'Andrew' would be allowed back on that forum. This would be the Andrew who called up Tony Bennett in the early hours to threaten him - and this comment about wishing Andrew to be re-admitted to the forum comes from Cristobell who allowed comments on her blog calling Tony Bennett a paedophile whilst she herself (Cristobell) wrote [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on Twitter relating to Tony Bennett.

This blog is supposedly about anonymity. It's not. It's about self gratification. Who in their right mind would wish to engage with Cristobell in their own name (apart from Sonia Poulton who exploited her not once but twice)?

I'd rather trust an angry snake than either of these two ladies and I've lived in countries with real snakes. Black mamba/baumslang v slimy Mrs Angry from Kent, I'd take the snake every time.

ETA: since posting I see that Cristobell is offering up a new blog on MMM concerning France and kindly giving her permission for it to be copied and pasted there.

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Posters, stay on topic, please.
You're welcome to first place of honour, think of it this way - whilst they're talking about you they're leaving some other poor begger alone.  What they don't know they event - something I'm beginning to think might be the criteria behind The Untold Story that's never to be told.  As said before, if Ms Poulton is using this strange person as her primary source of information (ergo kudos lol) then it ain't likely to be anything close to evidential.

I read the diatribe - another jaw hits the deck moment - but at least it carried an explanation as to the previously unexplained issue of anonymity.  It's called selective anonymity - in short, if you are critical of herself, her partner in crime and the legendary film/documentary then anonymity is most definitely not permitted.  If however you sing the praises of said objects then anonymity is most definitely not only permitted but positively encouraged.  Fair play eh?

Meanwhile - documentary?  What documentary?

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Post by Mark Willis 16.11.15 16:01

It's the "Untold, Unseen, Unlikely (to ever be sodding well seen), Ungodly, Unimpressive Story of Lord Knows What" narrated by Marcel Marceau, which, Mr Verdi, accompanies your cheque in the post...
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Post by Mark Willis 16.11.15 16:57

I really do like irony.
Quote:
"I'm even thinking of starting up writing and English classes (for which I will charge :) )."
End quote.

Well Miss Hutton, I feel it incumbent upon you to attend one yourself, given you do not know the difference between "your" and "you're" as demonstrated liberally throughout your self-obsessed diatribes.
Perhaps we should thank the Mcs for stalling your career as book stacker for Scammers and Swansong...
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Post by plebgate 16.11.15 17:39

Sorry mods but I wanted to say this - I AM NOT ANONYMOUS - EVERYONE KNOWS I AM TONY BENNETT. big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin
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Post by Jill Havern 16.11.15 17:44

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Sorry mods but I wanted to say this - I AM NOT ANONYMOUS - EVERYONE KNOWS I AM TONY BENNETT. big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin
We're all Tony Bennett. yes

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Post by Mark Willis 16.11.15 17:48

I'm Tony Bennett, and so is my wife.  big grin
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Post by Jill Havern 16.11.15 17:50

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I'm Tony Bennett, and so is my wife.  big grin
The only person who isn't Tony, is Tony Bennett.

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Post by Tony Bennett 16.11.15 17:54

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I'm Tony Bennett, and so is my wife.  big grin
Couldn't you have just sent a quiet 'm' informing the forum-owner about this? -  instead of broadcasting it for all our members and guests to see?

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Post by Verdi 16.11.15 20:15

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Well Miss Hutton, I feel it incumbent upon you to attend one yourself, given you do not know the difference between "your" and "you're" as demonstrated liberally throughout your self-obsessed diatribes.
Perhaps we should thank the Mcs for stalling your career as book stacker for Scammers and Swansong...
Of the same school as the appendage that uses the Unbound comments platform to promote it's own foul blog, the one that seems to think I'm of the Ku Klux Klan (past and present). 

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Post by Mark Willis 16.11.15 20:15

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I'm Tony Bennett, and so is my wife.  big grin
The only person who isn't Tony, is Tony Bennett.
He must be. I have all his albums.  winkwink
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Post by Mark Willis 16.11.15 20:16

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I'm Tony Bennett, and so is my wife.  big grin
Couldn't you have just sent a quiet 'm' informing the forum-owner about this? -  instead of broadcasting it for all our members and guests to see?
Sorry Tony, but we had to come clean that the world and his dog are obviously all you. winkwink
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