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Post by Realist 21.11.14 13:54

ultimaThule wrote:


In the 2011 trial of Lord Taylor of Warwick, a Tory peer who fiddled his expenses, the defence made its opening speech immediately following that of the prosecution which may not have been the best tactic as he was sentenced to a year's imprisonment although, unsurprisingly, there's no mention of this episode on his website, nor of the fact that he's been banned for life from the legal profession.    

If defence counsel wishes to make an opening speech immediately following that of the prosecution it's highly unlikely a judge would object to a change in the more usual order of the proceedings and, where a trial is expected to be of lengthy duration, it could be considered prudent or beneficial for the defence to state their case early. .  

Otherwise, the defence customarily makes their opening speech after the prosecution has concluded its case. Opening speeches are, of course, entirely separate from and not to be confused with the closing arguments which are made after both sides have finished calling witnesses, submitting documents, etc.

The USA's justice system is not dissimilar to that of the UK from which it largely derives; both are based on common law and are adversarial as opposed to inquisitorial.  However, grand juries have been eliminated in the UK and its prosecutors can amend an indictment after a case has been committed. In the US any such alteration would violate the Fifth Amendment and require the case to be resubmitted to a grand jury. .
Interesting concerning the Taylor case, thanks for taking the time to research it. In my experience of the British trial process which goes back to the days of Quarter Sessions and Assizes(not sure if that spelling is correct) the prosecution opens their case with a summation of the facts, calls their witnesses before closing their case. The defence then has the option of making submissions that there is no case to answer if they consider the Crown haven't provided enough evidence for a jury to safely consider. In the event that this gambit fails or isn't applicable, the defence then presents their case by their calling witnesses, the accused being first if they wish to give evidence on their own behalf.

The prosecution then provides their closing arguments, followed by the defence with the judge having the last word. I have never experienced a judge allowing a defence counsel to make a speech either at the beginning of the trial or for that matter at the incept of the defence's case. As previously stated, a judge would normally curtly remind counsel to save such remarks for his closing arguments. This of course doesn't mean that its never occurred, simply that it isn't the norm. a contention upon which we both appear to be in accord.
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