The secret files, are these what SY have been wading through for the last 3 years.
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The secret files, are these what SY have been wading through for the last 3 years.
by Guest Sat May 24, 2014 8:41 pm
I can't honestly ever remember reading this story. So is this the files of 2000 pages that was kept secret and not released that SY have been wading through for the last 3 years??.........
Maddie sighting was kept secret
MADELEINE McCann could be 12,000 miles away in New Zealand, it was revealed last night.
By Jerry Lawton/Published 3rd March 2010
Police files kept secret for nearly two years were obtained yesterday by the Daily Star.
They include grainy footage from a supermarket’s CCTV cameras that could show the missing youngster Down Under.
A security guard at the store in Dunedin on New Zealand’s South Island was convinced the child was Madeleine
She asked the girl her name and she replied in a British accent: “Hailey.” Then she was led away by a portly man in shorts who grabbed her hand.
The security guard was so suspicious she contacted Interpol who sent the images to Portuguese police in July 2008.
But, because detectives archived the case nearly two years ago, the photos were never released and have been gathering dust in a 2,000-page case file locked away inside a police HQ in the Algarve resort of Portimao.
The evidence includes hundreds of sightings, photographs and leads from the US to Hong Kong collected since the investigation was shelved.
Shock revelations include an eyewitness account by a French trucker threatened at gunpoint when he tried to approach a girl he thought was Madeleine.
There is also a police report about a white Mercedes van that travelled from Portugal to Morocco by ferry and claims Madeleine was snatched by a US-based Portuguese child trafficker. Some informants suggested names for those responsible for snatching the child who vanished from her parents’ holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on May 3 2007
The Daily Star has obtained the file by applying to the state prosecutor
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Madeleine’s doctor parents Kate and Gerry, both 41, have asked Home Secretary Alan Johnson, 59, to order the case to be re-opened by a joint team of Portuguese and British detectives
Last night the McCanns were “extremely angry” that the file had remained hidden.
Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “They were shocked when they became aware of the scale of the information that had come in and the lack of action taken.
“There are potential leads in the file that are now being followed up by our investigators.
“It’s more than a pity that the file has just sat there for so long and simply been marked ‘not relevant’ by the Portuguese.”
Last month the McCanns won a legal action banning future publication of a controversial book about the case by the former head of the investigation Goncalo Amaral, 49.
But they insist the real damage his claims caused was to stop people looking for Madeleine in the belief she might be dead
They plan to sue him for £1million for defamation.
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Maddie sighting was kept secret
MADELEINE McCann could be 12,000 miles away in New Zealand, it was revealed last night.
By Jerry Lawton/Published 3rd March 2010
Police files kept secret for nearly two years were obtained yesterday by the Daily Star.
They include grainy footage from a supermarket’s CCTV cameras that could show the missing youngster Down Under.
A security guard at the store in Dunedin on New Zealand’s South Island was convinced the child was Madeleine
She asked the girl her name and she replied in a British accent: “Hailey.” Then she was led away by a portly man in shorts who grabbed her hand.
The security guard was so suspicious she contacted Interpol who sent the images to Portuguese police in July 2008.
But, because detectives archived the case nearly two years ago, the photos were never released and have been gathering dust in a 2,000-page case file locked away inside a police HQ in the Algarve resort of Portimao.
The evidence includes hundreds of sightings, photographs and leads from the US to Hong Kong collected since the investigation was shelved.
Shock revelations include an eyewitness account by a French trucker threatened at gunpoint when he tried to approach a girl he thought was Madeleine.
There is also a police report about a white Mercedes van that travelled from Portugal to Morocco by ferry and claims Madeleine was snatched by a US-based Portuguese child trafficker. Some informants suggested names for those responsible for snatching the child who vanished from her parents’ holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on May 3 2007
The Daily Star has obtained the file by applying to the state prosecutor
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Madeleine’s doctor parents Kate and Gerry, both 41, have asked Home Secretary Alan Johnson, 59, to order the case to be re-opened by a joint team of Portuguese and British detectives
Last night the McCanns were “extremely angry” that the file had remained hidden.
Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “They were shocked when they became aware of the scale of the information that had come in and the lack of action taken.
“There are potential leads in the file that are now being followed up by our investigators.
“It’s more than a pity that the file has just sat there for so long and simply been marked ‘not relevant’ by the Portuguese.”
Last month the McCanns won a legal action banning future publication of a controversial book about the case by the former head of the investigation Goncalo Amaral, 49.
But they insist the real damage his claims caused was to stop people looking for Madeleine in the belief she might be dead
They plan to sue him for £1million for defamation.
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Re: The secret files, are these what SY have been wading through for the last 3 years.
by plebgate Sat May 24, 2014 9:08 pm
Wasn't there a little girl in New Zealand who had her DNA taken (? last year) but it was not Maddie.. Maybe that lead did come from these files, but if so, looks as though the Port. police were right in saying the info. was not relevant.
The article says that Mr. & Mrs. were extremely angry that the files had remained hidden. Some people know a thing about keeping files quiet - don't they?
The article says that Mr. & Mrs. were extremely angry that the files had remained hidden. Some people know a thing about keeping files quiet - don't they?
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Re: The secret files, are these what SY have been wading through for the last 3 years.
by lj Sun May 25, 2014 6:35 am
plebgate wrote:Wasn't there a little girl in New Zealand who had her DNA taken (? last year) but it was not Maddie.. Maybe that lead did come from these files, but if so, looks as though the Port. police were right in saying the info. was not relevant.
The article says that Mr. & Mrs. were extremely angry that the files had remained hidden. Some people know a thing about keeping files quiet - don't they?
Yes, but they are the McCans and can do what they want.
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by tigger Sun May 25, 2014 6:56 am
It's an outright lie.
The Daily star refers to 2008. Journalists were allowed to apply early for access to the files.
All the 2000+. Sightings were published including the French roadside one.
But the sightings files were used by TM as the best way to divert attention from the rest of the files. Anybody with half a brain would see the gaping holes in their story once they read the files.
So a big thing was made of those 2000 sightings having been ignored by the PJ.
The McCanns selected the Stam sighting in Amsterdam as a poignant example of this neglect of duty.
A woman who went to the police six weeks after allegedly she'd met Maddie, who gave her name, said she'd been taken from her holiday and that the people with her weren't her parents.
Stam further supplied the information that these people owned a small travelling circus with which they toured Europe.
So how many small travelling circuses are there? Did the McCanns try and trace it?
Not a bit of it, they got themselves photographed with Stam, looking into the cameras like constipated cows, as close as they ever come to looking grief stricken. Some coaching by RADA wouldn't have gone amiss.
The New Zealand sighting was sorted at the time and pointlessly resurrected last year I believe, to upset a perfectly nice family and their daughter. The DNA check was just for publicity but iirc SY was involved which doesn't make sense in view of the fact that this girl had been checked out years ago.
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The Daily star refers to 2008. Journalists were allowed to apply early for access to the files.
All the 2000+. Sightings were published including the French roadside one.
But the sightings files were used by TM as the best way to divert attention from the rest of the files. Anybody with half a brain would see the gaping holes in their story once they read the files.
So a big thing was made of those 2000 sightings having been ignored by the PJ.
The McCanns selected the Stam sighting in Amsterdam as a poignant example of this neglect of duty.
A woman who went to the police six weeks after allegedly she'd met Maddie, who gave her name, said she'd been taken from her holiday and that the people with her weren't her parents.
Stam further supplied the information that these people owned a small travelling circus with which they toured Europe.
So how many small travelling circuses are there? Did the McCanns try and trace it?
Not a bit of it, they got themselves photographed with Stam, looking into the cameras like constipated cows, as close as they ever come to looking grief stricken. Some coaching by RADA wouldn't have gone amiss.
The New Zealand sighting was sorted at the time and pointlessly resurrected last year I believe, to upset a perfectly nice family and their daughter. The DNA check was just for publicity but iirc SY was involved which doesn't make sense in view of the fact that this girl had been checked out years ago.
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by aiyoyo Sun May 25, 2014 2:32 pm
It's utter rubbish ! The figure must have been plucked from thin air.
Fortunately they stopped spouting that tripe after the Review commenced.
Fortunately they stopped spouting that tripe after the Review commenced.
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by G1 Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:20 pm
"So how many small travelling circuses are there? Did the McCanns try and trace it?"
I remember reading that investigators did try and trace that. There was a fund, money paying investigators.
Basically, it's unlikely that travelling circus as of any size, recorded, filed or known by anyone, would have been missed. Which is why this sighting may be so important. I think it's a really important sighting.
I don't know, it may be very hard for the parents to admit or say it themselves, naturally, but this was likely to be a (maybe global rather than just European) travelling sexual circus.
I remember reading that investigators did try and trace that. There was a fund, money paying investigators.
Basically, it's unlikely that travelling circus as of any size, recorded, filed or known by anyone, would have been missed. Which is why this sighting may be so important. I think it's a really important sighting.
I don't know, it may be very hard for the parents to admit or say it themselves, naturally, but this was likely to be a (maybe global rather than just European) travelling sexual circus.
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Re: The secret files, are these what SY have been wading through for the last 3 years.
by Gaggzy Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:58 pm
G1 wrote:"So how many small travelling circuses are there? Did the McCanns try and trace it?"
I remember reading that investigators did try and trace that. There was a fund, money paying investigators.
Basically, it's unlikely that travelling circus as of any size, recorded, filed or known by anyone, would have been missed. Which is why this sighting may be so important. I think it's a really important sighting.
I don't know, it may be very hard for the parents to admit or say it themselves, naturally, but this was likely to be a (maybe global rather than just European) travelling sexual circus.
A travelling ... sexual ... circus.
I'm sorry, but my mind is boggling at this one.
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by Guest Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:06 pm
I think, I've just decided to skip over G1's comments ...
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by Guest Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:13 am
G1 has been escorted from the building in case anyone should miss him!
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by Guest Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:15 am
***No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:G1 has been escorted from the building in case anyone should miss him!
Are we now awaiting a G2?
Not immediately, I guess, must be too busy giving statement of some sorts ...
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by canada12 Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:19 am
Châtelaine wrote:***No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:G1 has been escorted from the building in case anyone should miss him!
Are we now awaiting a G2?
Not immediately, I guess, must be too busy giving statement of some sorts ...
I'm waiting for K1. As soon as she's finished choosing her earrings...
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