Mikaeel Kular

Yes they have, but Missing People have not to my knowledge.

I think it is appalling that the OFM campaign involved their members in this case, and now refuse them the right to express their sympathies.

Cristobell wrote:I think it is appalling that the OFM campaign involved their members in this case, and now refuse them the right to express their sympathies.

because it seems the mother had some thing to do with the death of Michaeel,thats the only reason.

Bellisa wrote:Yes they have, but Missing People have not to my knowledge.

Its the same reason that I posted on Cristobells comment, THE MOTHER HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

Perhaps Missing People realised that he was not actually 'Missing'.
Not Abducted
Not missing

tiny wrote:

Cristobell wrote:I think it is appalling that the OFM campaign involved their members in this case, and now refuse them the right to express their sympathies.

because it seems the mother had some thing to do with the death of Michaeel,thats the only reason.

Another example of McCann censorship imo, having involved their 500,000+ members in this story, they pulled the rug from under them in not allowing them to comment, ie. you can read what we say, but you can't say anything yourself.

Even the most hardened pro-McCanns must be having second thoughts about the abduction theory. All this after the Mailonline responses to the neglect controversy last week which surprised a lot of us.

The mother's former boyfriend Mohamed Abdi was shot dead in May last year. The day after his fatal shooting, she reportedly posted an image of the two of them together on her Facebook account.

Last week the BBC reported that SIX men are about to face charges of murdering Abdi - the son of a Muslim Imam:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-25677016

The mother's mother, Harjinder Kular, 60, is a retired doctor. She has remarried twice, most recently to Dr Bangarpet Krishnaswamy, 69, a GP originally from Bangalore, who develops properties in Scotland, and is the Director of East Neuk Healthcare, which owns a 40-bed nursing home in Anstruther, Fife.

Well over 500,000 members and an average of 30 comments on most of their posts is a strong sign to me exactly what the public opinion is.

Cristobell wrote:

tiny wrote:

Cristobell wrote:I think it is appalling that the OFM campaign involved their members in this case, and now refuse them the right to express their sympathies.

because it seems the mother had some thing to do with the death of Michaeel,thats the only reason.

Another example of McCann censorship imo, having involved their 500,000+ members in this story, they pulled the rug from under them in not allowing them to comment, ie. you can read what we say, but you can't say anything yourself.  

They're afraid of the similarities, that's why they've restricted comments. If a stranger abductor had been detained there'd be 10.000 comments or more - they'd be encouraging them.

Do they really have 500,000 genuine members? Maybe they bought them, that's what companies do.

tasprin wrote:

Cristobell wrote:

tiny wrote:

Cristobell wrote:I think it is appalling that the OFM campaign involved their members in this case, and now refuse them the right to express their sympathies.

because it seems the mother had some thing to do with the death of Michaeel,thats the only reason.

Another example of McCann censorship imo, having involved their 500,000+ members in this story, they pulled the rug from under them in not allowing them to comment, ie. you can read what we say, but you can't say anything yourself.  

They're afraid of the similarities, that's why they've restricted comments. If a stranger abductor had been detained there'd be 10.000 comments or more - they'd be encouraging them.

Do they really have 500,000 genuine members? Maybe they bought them, that's what companies do.

No of course not,they made them up or as you say bought them,devious bunch they are.

Appalling but not unexpected outcome. In the few cases where I personally have been involved with searches for missing children in the 70s 80s the common thread is that in all cases the parents (the father in most) have engaged with the people who have given up their time to help and offered personal thanks.
The bungling disgraced police in the case of this little boy did what most if not all police forces worldwide would do and immediately ruled out or in the possibility of family involvement. Does anybody have inside knowledge of what Foreign Office officials were instructing the police to do? What about that South African geeza Krugel with the magic body finding gun?
   

tiny wrote:

tasprin wrote:

Cristobell wrote:

tiny wrote:

Cristobell wrote:I think it is appalling that the OFM campaign involved their members in this case, and now refuse them the right to express their sympathies.

because it seems the mother had some thing to do with the death of Michaeel,thats the only reason.

Another example of McCann censorship imo, having involved their 500,000+ members in this story, they pulled the rug from under them in not allowing them to comment, ie. you can read what we say, but you can't say anything yourself.  

They're afraid of the similarities, that's why they've restricted comments. If a stranger abductor had been detained there'd be 10.000 comments or more - they'd be encouraging them.

Do they really have 500,000 genuine members? Maybe they bought them, that's what companies do.

No of course not,they made them up or as you say bought them,devious bunch they are.

Strength in fake numbers

aiyoyo wrote:

Official Find Madeleine Campaign
about an hour ago
We would like to thank everyone who helped in the search for Mikaeel Kular. We came together as a community to help the search and unfortunately the outcome is heartbreaking. All of you should be very proud of how you came together to help find this precious little boy.

Out of respect for Mikaeel and his family, we are not allowing comments on this post.

Rest in peace sweet boy and may your family find comfort in the midst of grief.

~FM Webmaster

This must be written by Kate because it is not coherent.  
She talks as if she's Police in charge of the search and was involved in the search.
"We came  together ..." it's one of those WTF moments comment.  Since when she helped in the search?

All she did was post up comments which she quickly whooshed once his death was announced.

The royal we? Middle-middle delusions of grandeur shooting out of control past upper-middle towards aristocratic altutudes?

Royally untouchable. They've told themselves so so often they now believe it true.

From McCann controversy FB page -

'No one who has followed the disgraceful cynical actions of the McCann's are surprised at the depths to which they will plumb in order to use any misfortune to try and convince the British public that the fake abduction of little Maddie took place.

But they have stooped to a new low even from them !

Having placed a picture of poor little Mikaeel Kular on the Official Find Maddie website in an attempt to then turn round when he was found and say "See it can happen!" they then removed it as soon as it was found the poor little soul was dead and that the mother has been arrested and questioned.

One wonders just how much lower they can go, we have had to swallow a fake burglary, lies, misdirection, cyber bullying, writs to silence those wanting to tell the truth and fraudulent misuse of funds given to them.

A sycophantic and fawning government,police force and media meanwhile do everything they can to try and influence and dupe the public who are not buying one second of this disgraceful deception.

ENOUGH!!!!"

Dee Coy wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:

Official Find Madeleine Campaign
about an hour ago
We would like to thank everyone who helped in the search for Mikaeel Kular. We came together as a community to help the search and unfortunately the outcome is heartbreaking. All of you should be very proud of how you came together to help find this precious little boy.

Out of respect for Mikaeel and his family, we are not allowing comments on this post.

Rest in peace sweet boy and may your family find comfort in the midst of grief.

~FM Webmaster

This must be written by Kate because it is not coherent.  
She talks as if she's Police in charge of the search and was involved in the search.
"We came  together ..." it's one of those WTF moments comment.  Since when she helped in the search?

All she did was post up comments which she quickly whooshed once his death was announced.

The royal we? Middle-middle delusions of grandeur shooting out of control past upper-middle towards aristocratic altutudes?

Royally untouchable.  They've told themselves so so often they now believe it true.

Did she travel to Edinburgh to join the search?

Yes, KM always tells the truth. The only problem is that there were no MSM reports of this. They must be slipping up.

bristow wrote:From McCann controversy FB page -

'No one who has followed the disgraceful cynical actions of the McCann's are surprised at the depths to which they will plumb in order to use any misfortune to try and convince the British public that the fake abduction of little Maddie took place.

But they have stooped to a new low even from them !

Having placed a picture of poor little Mikaeel Kular on the Official Find Maddie website in an attempt to then turn round when he was found and say "See it can happen!" they then removed it as soon as it was found the poor little soul was dead and that the mother has been arrested and questioned.

One wonders just how much lower they can go, we have had to swallow a fake burglary, lies, misdirection, cyber bullying, writs to silence those wanting to tell the truth and fraudulent misuse of funds given to them.

A sycophantic and fawning government,police force and media meanwhile do everything they can to try and influence and dupe the public who are not buying one second of this disgraceful deception.

ENOUGH!!!!"

   

She won't have joined the search. If she could have been certain the outcome may not have mirrored what so many now believe to have been the circumstances surrounding her own daughter's disappearance she'd have been there - the wonderful publicity would've been too good to miss.

But knowing what she knows would give her insight into what also happened in this tragic case and she'll have had her bum firmly stapled to the fence until events evolved. How an abduction would have helped her cause! But it was not to be and as - to her undoubted dismay - the scenario surrounding that poor little boy developed as it did, in lot of peoples' opinion so similar to her own, it appears she was wise not to have joined the search in a blaze of publicity and have yet more people spot the parallels.

It was the royal we she was using, I tell thee!

daffodil wrote:

bristow wrote:From McCann controversy FB page -

'No one who has followed the disgraceful cynical actions of the McCann's are surprised at the depths to which they will plumb in order to use any misfortune to try and convince the British public that the fake abduction of little Maddie took place.

But they have stooped to a new low even from them !

Having placed a picture of poor little Mikaeel Kular on the Official Find Maddie website in an attempt to then turn round when he was found and say "See it can happen!" they then removed it as soon as it was found the poor little soul was dead and that the mother has been arrested and questioned.

One wonders just how much lower they can go, we have had to swallow a fake burglary, lies, misdirection, cyber bullying, writs to silence those wanting to tell the truth and fraudulent misuse of funds given to them.

A sycophantic and fawning government,police force and media meanwhile do everything they can to try and influence and dupe the public who are not buying one second of this disgraceful deception.

ENOUGH!!!!"

         

Mikaeel Kular: Sadness and anger at futile search

by STEPHEN MCGINTY

THEY came to lay fluffy rabbits and lions, teddy bears and old, much-loved toys. Red roses lay next to yellow carnations and white lilies. Mickey Mouse sat with a bouquet of pink roses wedged between his white gloved hands.

A little girl in a red jacket with a pink Peppa Pig umbrella was given a bouquet of cellophane wrapped carnations by her mother to put down in memory of a boy she never knew and now never will.

As Alison Porter explained: “He was a three-year-old little boy; I’ve a four-year-old little girl, how could I not come down?”

Four black, steel parking posts on the corner of Ferry Gait Crescent in the Drylaw area of Edinburgh was the spot where a community yesterday came to surrender their fragile hope and kindle their burning anger. For 36 hours, from Thursday morning until midnight on Friday, this was a community bound by a shared mission, one of life and death, to find a missing child who had wandered off at night clad in his blue jogging bottoms, grey pyjama top with the turquoise dinosaur and his little beige jacket.

Or so they and the police had been told. After hundreds had taken part in search parties, moving from their gardens, to waste ground, from golf course to shoreline, picking through blades of grass for sight of a brown shoe or a black glove, any clue to the whereabouts of the missing child, the news that the body of Mikaeel Kular had been found more than 30 miles away in Fife had brought bitter disappointment, grief and anger.

“Why were we told the little boy was wandering around here when they find him all that distance away” said Thomas, who did not wish to give his surname. “No wee laddie could walk that far, someone is no telling the truth and I think everyone has an idea who.”

Wayne and his partner Krystal could hear the boy’s mother Rosdeep Adekoya crying on the morning of his disappearance. The couple, who did not wish to give their surname, are neighbours in the red brick flats on Ferry Gait Crescent. When the police first knocked on their door on Thursday morning looking for Mikaeel, they could hear Rosdeep crying loudly through the open door of her flat.

“We do feel angry, very angry. The story we were told, that he let himself out and was missing in the community, couldn’t have been true.”

Wayne and Krystal, who have three young children of their own, said Rosdeep seemed perfectly pleasant. “We didn’t know each other well, we would say hello and we would take in parcels for each other and you would always hear the kids playing. Now, we don’t know what to think.”

Over the course of yesterday the impromptu shrine to Mikaeel began to grow and deepen into a quilt of flowers and toys. A pink etch-a-sketch was set down with the screen displaying the words: “Sleep tight, Mikaeel. XX”

One note, beside a cuddly lion, read: “This is so sad and a great loss to our street in Ferry Gait Crescent. R.I.P Michael (sic) XX”.

Another said: “Rest Wee Angel. We didn’t know you, but you belonged to our community. You are one of us always and forever. God love you wee Michael (sic) RIP.”

When parents came down they would instinctively hold their own children tight and while older children looked sad, younger ones were understandably bemused.

One set of parents carefully passed a little woollen pig to their young daughter, who was sheltering under a Disney Princess umbrella, and asked her to lay it down on the pile, as a press photographer took a picture. No sooner was it in her hand than the child hurled it down then looked up with a beaming smile. Even in the midst of tragedy children don’t really do poignancy.

Yet their parents do. Nicki Turner, 39, left flowers and a card that read: “Why?” Since the disappearance her son Declan, 9, has been too frightened to go to sleep. “He thought someone would come and take him from his bed, like they came and took Mikaeel.”

Turner, who had been involved in the search, said: “It is heartbreaking. We are in shock, stunned because everybody was hoping that he would be found alive.

“This has been a terrible event but it has shown people that there is still such a thing as community, that when something bad happens, everyone will pull together to help. I feel proud of how the community responded. Everyone just wanted this to have a happy ending, we wanted Mikaeel to be found, but not like this.”

It was a sentiment shared by Cammy Day, the local councillor and community safety leader, who had helped organise the searches. Yesterday he spoke of the impact on the local community: “Although there hasn’t been formal confirmation as yet, it’s looking increasingly certain that today the community is having to face the outcome that everyone dreaded, namely that Mikaeel has not been found safe and well like we all prayed he would be. This is an absolutely tragic situation and my heart goes out to Mikaeel’s friends and loved ones who are now having to come to terms with such devastating news.

“These past two days have seen such an incredible outpouring of community spirit with hundreds of volunteers giving up their time to join the search for Mikaeel. It was a very moving thing to see the community pull together like that and I know that people will continue to support each other in the days and weeks ahead as we all try to come to terms with this heartbreaking outcome. My thanks to everyone who has played their part throughout this situation; you have all given Edinburgh so much to be proud of.”

Yet the grim discovery in Fife has impacted on residents of all ages. Donna Orthanogly, 44, said she had not let her children, Aaron, 9 and Tanay, 6, out of her sight, except at school since the child’s disappearance was reported on Thursday morning. She took part in the search party that combed through the local park and went to bed on Friday night still cradling a hope that the child would be found alive. When she heard the news at 5.30am yesterday she was devastated.

“In my mind I’m hoping it was an accident or a cot death and someone panicked and I know that sounds strange but I can’t bear to think of someone hurting him,” she said.

She felt it was important to tell her sons and bring them down so they could pay their respect. “I wanted them to hear from me. I didn’t want them to hear it in the school- yard. I wanted them to know that sometimes bad things happen.”

The boys had donated a teddy and wrote on a piece of paper: “Sleep well with the angels. Hope you like the teddies for you to cuddle in Heaven.”

Cameron Haddow was in bed with his girlfriend, Erin Anderson, when they read on Twitter of Mikaeel’s death. “I just burst out crying,” said Erin, 17, who works with young children each day at Build-A-Bear. “He was just so young, it is awful, just awful. We wanted to come down here as soon as we could. We wanted to show that we cared.” Cameron, 18, said: “I feel angry, very angry. Who could do this?”

For Khalida Hussain the shrine was only 12 steps from her flat at number 20. “You see these terrible things on television or in the movies. You don’t expect to see it on your doorstep. When we heard the story, we wanted to believe it, we wanted him to be found, but in your heart it didn’t seem true that he could let himself out.”

At 12.40pm, five hours after the first bouquet had been laid down, the council decided that the spot was not appropriate as a temporary shrine and that it should be moved to a park a few hundred metres away. The floral flit coincided with the arrival of two families with small children, who each picked up a few toys and carried them to the new resting spot. A trio of little girls in pink wellingtons blew out the candles and carefully carried them off.

Chris Cowan, a social care worker, arrived in mid move cradling his three-year-old son, Samuel. “People are angry, in these situations you often think a member of the family is involved. My wife said perhaps it’s the husband but now it may be the mother who is involved in some way. It’s awful.”

He had taken part in the searches: “We were looking here and they find him in Fife. It’s terrible.” Asked if he and the other searchers felt tricked, he replied: “Yes. We all do.”

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland/top-stories/mikaeel-kular-sadness-and-anger-at-futile-search-1-3273580

Dee Coy wrote:She won't have joined the search. If she could have been certain the outcome may not have mirrored what so many now believe to have been the circumstances surrounding her own daughter's disappearance she'd have been there - the wonderful publicity would've been too good to miss.

But knowing what she knows would give her insight into what also happened in this tragic case and she'll have had her bum firmly stapled to the fence until events evolved. How an abduction would have helped her cause! But it was not to be and as - to her undoubted dismay - the scenario surrounding that poor little boy developed as it did, in lot of peoples' opinion so similar to her own, it appears she was wise not to have joined the search in a blaze of publicity and have yet more people spot the parallels.

It was the royal we she was using, I tell thee!

Reminding you and me of We Margaret Thatcher becoming a grandmother

And of the wee man

daffodil wrote:

bristow wrote:From McCann controversy FB page -

'No one who has followed the disgraceful cynical actions of the McCann's are surprised at the depths to which they will plumb in order to use any misfortune to try and convince the British public that the fake abduction of little Maddie took place.

But they have stooped to a new low even from them !

Having placed a picture of poor little Mikaeel Kular on the Official Find Maddie website in an attempt to then turn round when he was found and say "See it can happen!" they then removed it as soon as it was found the poor little soul was dead and that the mother has been arrested and questioned.

One wonders just how much lower they can go, we have had to swallow a fake burglary, lies, misdirection, cyber bullying, writs to silence those wanting to tell the truth and fraudulent misuse of funds given to them.

A sycophantic and fawning government,police force and media meanwhile do everything they can to try and influence and dupe the public who are not buying one second of this disgraceful deception.

ENOUGH!!!!"

         

So updating their site, about missing boy.

Have they updated their site about the innocent father being Tanner man, or do they still expect us to search for the man?

Kate didn't even leave 5a to search for her own daughter, let alone she went to Edinburg to searching for somebody's else child.

Sadly there is now another new name to be added to PeterMac's previous compendium of children 'Missing - but not really missing'.

I'll put his name at the top of the list:

Mikaeel Kular
Zoe Evans
Shannon Matthews
Ruth Breton
Jose Breton  
Tia Sharp
Samuele Lorenzi
Caylee Marie Anthony
Jhessye Shockley
Bianca Jones
Joana Cipriano
Harmony Jude Creech
Dominik Takács
Leonardo Giovanni
Sendejas Fadi Nasri
Riley Ann Sawyers
Kirsi Gifford-Hull
Marina Sabatier
Joanna Nelson
Michael Daniel Smith
Sharon Malone
Alexander Tyler Smith
Lee Harvey
Keisha Weippeart
Rachel McClean

Not all of those on that list Tony were children. I don't think the Lee Harvey case is relevant as this was a supposed road rage killing when in fact his girlfriend Tracie Andrews was responsible.

Rachel McLean was a 19-year-old student murdered in 1991 by her boyfriend whose motive was "if I can't have you, nobody else will".

After she was reported missing, he went through the charade of appealing for help when all the time she was buried in the cellar of her home.

I do hope that he is a reformed character as he has been out of prison since 2003.