PJ search of the Quinta Salsalito

by Guest 13.05.14 9:57

Why did the PJ search the Salsalito B&B and surroundings? Was it purely because of the Murat family connection, or was there some other intelligence at work?

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by Guest 13.05.14 10:40

Clay Regazzoni wrote:Why did the PJ search the Salsalito B&B and surroundings? Was it purely because of the Murat family connection, or was there some other intelligence at work?

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Remind me who Sally Anne Eveliegh is again and what's her connection..?

I say remind me. What i mean is i don't know.

by Guest 13.05.14 10:59

Was being lazy again and not doing my research. They must of had good reason to search premises and cars. Wonder why?

SALLY AND RALPH EVELEIGH
Sally and Ralph Eveleigh run the Salsalito bed and breakfast in the village of Burgau, near Praia da Luz. The Salsalito is described as "set in its own grounds, just 2 minutes by car to the charming fishing village of Burgau, 5 minutes to Praia da Luz and 15 minutes to the historical town of Lagos with its fabulous shops and marina. Faro is 1½ hours away". Ralph Eveleigh is Jenny's brother (Robert Murat's Uncle) and Sally Anne Eveleigh is Ralph's daughter (Robert Murat's cousin). Ralph, an engineer by trade, also is part owner of the famous Beach Bar Burgau and Smuggler's Bar. Sally managed a designer shop in London's Bond Street, and has been, for 16 years, running her boutique in R. Joaquim Teixeira C Com Luztur - lj 2 Praia da Luz. The British police, in collaboration with PJ, searched their premises and seized their cars during the July re-investigation.

by Gillyspot 13.05.14 11:01

Sally is Robert Murat's cousin (daughter of Ralph Eveleigh) & he went there to stay after being made an arguido.

Funny as I have been looking into that now as well. My reason for this was the makeup photo of Maddie looks like it could have been taken there.

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Just one image of the place but gives a feel of the colour etc

by Snifferdog 13.05.14 11:20

Imo this picture of Madeleine was posted by the Mccanns to warn person(s) responsible/involved, (perhaps a particular person), to keep towing the line/offer support financial or otherwise. The eyes look dead. The above is all my opinion of course, and I am just purporting theories.

by Guest 13.05.14 15:17

Some links to Salsalito I have included since they have lots of pics:-

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And as Clay reported Channel 4 featured Sally E and her B&B enterprise on a recent episode/rerun of 'Holidays in the Sun' - last week I think.

Admin please remove if including these llinks is too intrusive.

by Guest 13.05.14 15:23

Snifferdog wrote:Imo this picture of Madeleine was posted by the Mccanns to warn person(s) responsible/involved, (perhaps a particular person), to keep towing the line/offer support financial or otherwise. The eyes look dead. The above is all my opinion of course, and I am just purporting theories.

The eye's look dead...

As in do you think she was dead when this pic was taken....

by comperedna 13.05.14 15:26

Sorry, but that is NOT how a dead person's eyes look. The coloured iris opens right up and all you see is black pupil... HUGE.

by Woofer 13.05.14 15:30

Someone has posted recently (think it was TB) that this B&B is adults only - assume what you like !

Nothing odd about that I suppose particularly if you want to get away from badly behaved kids (of which a large proportion are these days). But on the other hand ....

by Guest 13.05.14 15:31

comperedna wrote:Sorry, but that is NOT how a dead person's eyes look. The coloured iris opens right up and all you see is black pupil... HUGE.

No i certainly didn't think so either.

I might of interpreted wrongly what snifferdog meant by 'the eyes look dead'.

by Nina 13.05.14 15:34

comperedna wrote:Sorry, but that is NOT how a dead person's eyes look. The coloured iris opens right up and all you see is black pupil... HUGE.

I agree comperedna, Madeleine just looks as though she has closed down to me, not even through drugs, just shut off. Of all the photographs that have concerned me this is the one that I find impossible to find any normality to.

by Markus 2 13.05.14 17:31

Nina wrote:
comperedna wrote:Sorry, but that is NOT how a dead person's eyes look. The coloured iris opens right up and all you see is black pupil... HUGE.
I agree comperedna, Madeleine just looks as though she has closed down to me, not even through drugs, just shut off. Of all the photographs that have concerned me this is the one that I find impossible to find any normality to.

I have seen other poses in this mode from various people, there is a sinister connotation and meaning in most cases , ........ imagery imo , of course we cannot say this picture is meant to convey anything like that, but very odd . Not an image I would like to display to the world but then again they all have their secret signs and symbols.

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Imo this picture of Madeleine was posted by the Mccanns to warn person(s) responsible/involved, (perhaps a particular person), to keep towing the line/offer support financial or otherwise. The eyes look dead. The above is all my opinion of course, and I am just purporting theories.

Think you could be right there

by Guest 13.05.14 18:02

For a photograph of a child of 3 years almost 4, the expression is very strange I agree.

Children usually smile when they get attention - say a camera pointed at them - but IMO M seems totally detached in this. Is it because someone she doesn't know well is taking the photograph?

I have always felt she was seated but looking down at the photographer, i.e. he/she was sitting on the ground in front of her possibly saying 'put your head back and look at me'.

Not a normal look, especially as she was made up and adorned (make-up and necklace). IMO she should be excited, happy, to have a photo taken of her if this was in a normal family situation.

Just my thoughts.

by Markus 2 13.05.14 18:48

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Perhaps this image is more staged then we think. Look at the dark area one side and light the other now that in itself must indicate something. I think she is standing on something and the other side is her mothers cleavage what she is wearing around her neck is another issue. Look on their images on the web there is a picture of Kate in a similar colour dress The Sun article I think. The whole image imo has been blown or lightened up.

by comperedna 13.05.14 19:05

I now realise that the person who said 'the eyes look dead' was likely speaking figuratively, as in she looks 'switched off' or non-involved or something. I have four granddaughters aged 6 and under, and they are always dresing up as princesses or Disney characters or what have you and acting about, but I have never seen a look like that. However, we do NOT know the context in which that pic was taken.

A person who did photos and films and was, I think MBM's godfather, is Jon Corner. Some of his remarks make me squirm. I would like to know more about him. Was he out in PDL?

by Markus 2 13.05.14 19:10

comperedna wrote:I now realise that the person who said 'the eyes look dead' was likely speaking figuratively, as in she looks 'switched off' or non-involved or something. I have four granddaughters aged 6 and under, and they are always dresing up as princesses or Disney characters or what have you and acting about, but I have never seen a look like that. However, we do NOT know the context in which that pic was taken.

A person who did photos and films and was, I think MBM's godfather, is Jon Corner. Some of his remarks make me squirm. I would like to know more about him. Was he out in PDL?

yes could be him arranging these pictures, sinister, really.

Surely SY can see what is going on by this, hope they are not all feeding from the same trough or is it concrete proof they need ?.
They serve both the light and the dark freemasonry ,would not be surprised if that represents a key

by Rufus T 30.09.14 9:19

I notice that Uncle Ralph appears to be the co- owner of the Beach Bar in Burgua, now I do not know if he was the gentleman spoken to in connection with the Polish couple spotted there or not, but I thought it worth mentioning.

01-Processos, Volume I Pages 192 to 195

also Outros Apensos VIII, Vol III Pages 668-669

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192 to 195 External diligence carried out at the Beach Bar in Burgau with CCTV images of Polish couple

In order to determine the comings and goings of the couple of Polish nationality, who spent their holiday in Burgau, we approached several business establishments and on the basis of the description which we have of the couple, the owner of the "Beach Bar" advised us that it could be two of his clients. He seemed to recall that the couple had lunch and dinner two or three times, without remembering the exact days, but it would have been at the beginning of the week. He knows that they are Polish because they spoke about football on the day of the Liverpool/Chelsea match, saying that Liverpool's goalkeeper was Polish. The match in question took place on May 1st 2007. They also discussed Portuguese and Brazilian classical music.

The couple know several performers from those countries. They asked the owner of the bar where they could buy music of this genre. The owner directed them to the FNAC shop at the Algarve shopping centre or to the Chiado commercial centre. They said they would probably go to Lisbon the same day. To the restaurateur, the couple seemed quite atypical of holiday-makers to that place. They paid in cash, the lady was often irritated and they dressed more formally than would expect for a summer holiday at a beach. The owner, however, did not perceive any abnormal behaviour from the couple.

by HelenMeg 30.09.14 10:00

Markus 2 wrote:

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Perhaps this image is more staged then we think. Look at the dark area one side and light the other now that in itself must indicate something. I think she is standing on something and the other side is her mothers cleavage what she is wearing around her neck is another issue. Look on their images on the web there is a picture of Kate in a similar colour dress The Sun article I think. The whole image imo has been blown or lightened up.

I am interested in this photo because of how it compares with M in the Last Photo.
In the Last Photo, which I think we all agree was taken on some day between 28th April and 3rd May 2007, she is smiling and pretty normal for a 3 year old. She looks her age and she is bright and smiley and typical of a little girl on holiday. In this photo, she looks much older, both due to her makeup, pose and facial features. Therefore, from this I deduce it has to have been taken shortly before her death or at least not many weeks before she died. She looks at 'her oldest'..IMO. Also, there is something like a bead - which look similar to that in the Last Photo although in the last photo it has slipped much further down the hair strands. Also, her hair cut appears to be the same as in the Last photo.

What am I trying to say? I dunno....but something intrigues me

by worriedmum 30.09.14 10:06

I have never noticed the 'brick work' pattern on the dark side of this picture before. And there is a kink on her neck which looks odd.

by HelenMeg 30.09.14 12:02

The makeup photo has to have been taken during the holiday or very very close to the holiday. Judging by the background it was taken during the holiday against the wall of the Quinta place... If that is the case - what does that mean? Contrast her face in the Last photo and the makeup photo. Amazing difference. But I am convinced they were taken within a few days.

by HelenMeg 30.09.14 12:16

The PJ would not search the Quinta do Salsalito for nothing. There is a good bet that M had been there..

by Doug D 30.09.14 12:29

With the hieroglyphics in the black background, the PJ must (should?) know exactly where the photo was taken.

I wonder how it fits in with the the bewk's holiday timeline and the creche sheets?

by NickE 30.09.14 13:42

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This one is darker, and it looks like bruises on the neck.
Can we identify what the object is above Maddie's head`?
And what is that blue thing next to Maddie?

by bobbin 30.09.14 14:47

Gillyspot wrote:Sally is Robert Murat's cousin (daughter of Ralph Eveleigh) & he went there to stay after being made an arguido.

Funny as I have been looking into that now as well. My reason for this was the makeup photo of Maddie looks like it could have been taken there.

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Just one image of the place but gives a feel of the colour etc

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This one is darker, and it looks like bruises on the neck.
Can we identify what the object is above Maddie's head`?
And what is that blue thing next to Maddie?

bobbin says.
The hieroglyphics don't show up in the lower photo.
Anyone any ideas why this should be, perhaps a difference in 'resolution' ?

by HelenMeg 30.09.14 14:52

It almost looks like a key dangling or hanging on the wall - I think someone once (on another thread) found a similar background in another
apartment in Burgau, with bright blue plastic furniture against the wall - which tied in with the blue. Possibly that apartment where JT and RM's dna
was supposedly found - or DNA that could have potentially come from them.