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Post by kangdang on 01.09.10 1:51

Cartas Rogatorias Vol III
Page 27

Leicestershire Police Force

From: DC443 J.N. HUGHES
To: SIO, Operation Task
Department: Main Crime Unit
Date: 16th May 2008
Refª

Subject: Background Information- Gerald McCANN


Dear Sirs

In response to your letter of request, I can provide the following information regarding the above-mentioned subject

Gerald McCann was born on June 5, 1968 in Scotland.

He is the bearer of British passport No **********.

He lives with his wife and children at Orchard House, 5 The Crescent, Rothley, Leicestershire, LE7 7RW.

The house is subject to a mortgage for the amount of GBP 323.493 with the Northern Rock Bank.

There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individuals maintains an open account with the same bank or a credit card for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this type of research.

He works for the NHS as a cardiologist at Glenfield hospital.

His previous address was 14 Queniborough Hall Drive, Queniborough, Leicestershire, LE7 3DZ.

His phone number is ******** and he has a mobile phone Vodafone No **********.

He is the owner of two vehicles registered in the PNC, a light blue Volkswagen Passat - R119 and a green BVV VW Touran, FM54 CXR.

No record was found in the National Police Computer. Search reference NE91/0031.

A search of the crime location and information system only indicates that Mr McCann was the victim of a theft of golf clubs from inside his car in the drive way to his home on 01/04/2006. Criminal Reference NQ/010145/06-9

A search of the local section of the child abuse shows a registration number 19309 in the CATS system. A consultation with the DC Soand from the department in question confirms that this is just a file reference, but as a complement to Operation Task system for the purpose of reference, if any investigation should be necessary by the department. No work has been done on the basis of this file.

An examination of all other police files using a search system does not reveal any information about him.

Submitted for your information.

CATS - Case Administration and Tracking System - was developed in the absence of a national database for Child Protection, and in light of recommendation 104 in Lord Laming's report into the death of Victoria Climbie. That is, Chief Constables must ensure that their police force has in use an effective Child Protection database and IT management system. CATS has two modules - Child Protection and Domestic Abuse. CATS can also be configured to record information about Vulnerable Adults if required. Note - The Domestic Abuse module was developed later to complement the Child Protection system.

CATS allows for the effective supervision and management of all police child abuse investigations and referrals including data checks, strategy meeting records, medical examinations, DVD interviews, police protection issues, joint investigation details, supervisor reviews, initial case conferences and review conferences.

The CATS database allows for the effective supervision and tracking of all referrals from initial receipt to disposal and records the details of all persons connected with those investigations.

Each Child Abuse Investigation Unit (CAIU) is equipped with a purpose built scanner, which allows the User to scan various documents directly onto CATS, including the investigation file papers, referrals, conference notes, correspondence, photographs and all associated documents from partner agencies. The aim is to establish a ‘paperless system’ with all information relating to child abuse investigations being
stored on the CATS system. Note - only non-sensitive images will be stored on the CATS.

CATS ‘system owner’ is Detective Chief Inspector, Public Protection, PHQ. Each constabulary will have an assigned deputy “system owner” and a “super user”. Super users have day to day responsibility for the CATS database, are responsible for all training, non-technical issues, password reset, user set up and general working practice issues. Super Users are also National CATS User Group representatives.

Every CATS User utilising the system will belong to a Specific User Group, with relevant privileges being authorised to each group depending on their requirements.

For example - Suffolk Constabulary, the following is a list of user groups within the CATS system

Area staff (JIT trained)
Disclosures
Managers
Super Users
Supervisors
VCC staff
CAIU staff
CAIU admin
PHQ Control Room
SPOC Staff
Area Crime Managers

Procedure

A CATS record will be created for every child abuse related referral received at the CAIU or where an invitation to attend a child protection case conference or case conference review is received. A CATS record will also be created when a police check request has been received from a partner agency.

When a CATS investigation is allocated to an officer for investigation, they will ensure that a detailed ‘initial investigation details and summary’ log will be completed. This log entry should contain specific details of the allegation and the intended course of action for the investigating officer.

A C.I.S. crime report will be completed when a crime has occurred and the ‘initial investigation details and summary’ log information, will be cut and pasted from the CATS record on to CIS crime report. All further investigation details and information will be recorded on to the CATS system.

At the conclusion of the investigation, the investigating officer will ensure that they complete a detailed ‘summary of investigation and conclusion’ log entry on the CATS system prior to concluding the investigation and forwarding the CATS record on to a supervisor for review and finalisation. The investigating officer and supervisor will ensure that a copy of the ‘summary of investigation and conclusion’ log entry is ‘cut and paste’ from the CATS database onto the CIS Crime Report.

Current constabulary users of CATS are -

Bedfordshire
Cambridgeshire
Cumbria
Dyfed Powys
Gloucestershire
Humberside
Leicestershire
Lincolnshire
Norfolk
North Yorkshire
Nottinghamshire
South Wales
South Yorkshire
Suffolk
Warwickshire

WPC Software support and maintain CATS, they list system benefits as follows -

• CATS gives police officers a much clearer picture of the child or vulnerable person referred to them. The data collected in CATS can be used to piece together vital information on family background of that individual, helping the officer make more informed decisions.

• CATS may also be used to help identify previous accusations against suspects offering further lines of investigation and valuable information to help assess the safety of the vulnerable person. It may also be used to help identify repeat offenders.

• Incidents go through a managed process, from a new referral to a finalised incident. As a case is progressed, CATS validates the information collected and ensures the case has visibility to the relevant officers and staff members.

• Incident Reports can be generated for sharing of information between Police and Social Services.


Links
http://www.wpcsoft.com/products/cats.htm
http://www.suffolk.police.uk/NR/rdonlyres/0D2A0D35-D394-4459-8C47-71B287D11A02/0/CATSCaseAdministrationTrackingSystem.pdf


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Child Protection Investigations under Section 47, Children Act, 1989

Post by Tony Bennett on 01.09.10 2:05

It is known that social workers, some of senior level, visited the McCanns in 2007 after Madeleine was reported missing.

It is also known that where there is evidence that children, especially very young ones, have been left alone in circumstances that exposed them to significant risks, and especially in a situation where one of them has gone missing, presumed abducted, in mysterious circumstances, Social Services have a duty to conduct what is called a 'Child Protection Investigation' under Section 47, Children Act, 1989.

They then have a range of options, the main alternatives being:

* do nothing
* call a Child Protection Case Conference
* put the remaining two children on a Child Protection Register (what used to be known as the 'At Risk Register')
* place the children under voluntary supervision, or a compulory Supervision Order, possibly with extra conditions
* place the children with relatives or friends ,by agreement with the parents
* take the children into care, known these days as 'placing them in accommodation'.

These procedures are secret - and no-one has yet commented on what action, if any was taken to protect Sean and Amelie.

Dr Gerald McCann did however make the claim that a senior social worker had advised him that their child care arrangements in Praia da Luz were 'well within the bounds of responsible child care'.

The identity of that senior social worker has never been disclosed.

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by aiyoyo on 01.09.10 6:21

Handled with care no less?

Handled with kids gloves?

Treated as fragile?

Treated as bone china?

Handled with special privilege?

Only happens if you're mccanns! clapping

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by kangdang on 29.09.10 13:27

Bumping this thread.

Why would there be a CATS file ref.no. allocated to McCann? Why the absence of details in the file? What is the point of allocating a CATS no to effectively...nothing?


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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by Judge Mental on 29.09.10 14:44

@kangdang wrote:Bumping this thread.

Why would there be a CATS file ref.no. allocated to McCann? Why the absence of details in the file? What is the point of allocating a CATS no to effectively...nothing?


An empty file?

thinking

It needs to be established whether the person who made the original file ever recorded anything in it. If they did, and it is no longer there to be viewed, then it must be assumed that something has been deleted from the file.




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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by kangdang on 29.09.10 15:20

It is clearly stated that "a CATS record will be created for every child abuse related referral received at the CAIU or where an invitation to attend a child protection case conference or case conference review is received. A CATS record will also be created when a police check request has been received from a partner agency.

When a CATS investigation is allocated to an officer for investigation, they will ensure that a detailed ‘initial investigation details and summary’ log will be completed. This log entry should contain specific details of the allegation and the intended course of action for the investigating officer.

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by kangdang on 29.09.10 15:21

So, can it be assumed that details where deleted from the file?

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by aiyoyo on 29.09.10 15:36

@kangdang wrote:It is clearly stated that "a CATS record will be created for every child abuse related referral received at the CAIU or where an invitation to attend a child protection case conference or case conference review is received. A CATS record will also be created when a police check request has been received from a partner agency.

When a CATS investigation is allocated to an officer for investigation, they will ensure that a detailed ‘initial investigation details and summary’ log will be completed. This log entry should contain specific details of the allegation and the intended course of action for the investigating officer.

Can is be assumed the file nr was allocated when social service visited them, but because sr social service officer deemed they were practising responsible parenting (according to GM's claim anyway) nothing was recorded .

Having said that, that cannot be right nor does it make sense, because even if the visit didnt result in any action needed to be taken, it should still record what caused the visit in the first place. So at the very least, it should have purpose of visit. Even if no action was recommendation it should have been recorded as such. So why a void of contents file? Another enigma?

Unless this file is not related to the home visit but something else.
Else I cant see how SS can come with an empty file without recording cause of visit, then leave with an empty file without recommendation or the recording of progress of visit. Bizzare really.


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Questions to be asked about Leicestershire CATS entry 19309

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.09.10 16:21

@Judge Mental wrote:It needs to be established whether the person who made the original file ever recorded anything in it. If they did, and it is no longer there to be viewed, then it must be assumed that something has been deleted from the file.
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YES.

Here is a provisional list of questions that simply MUST be asked about this:

1. On what date was this entry made?

2. Who was the officer who inputted the information and drew down the reference number 19309?

3. S/he must be able to recall why this was done. So, what was s/he told, when and by whom?

4. What information does s/he recollect placing on these records?

5. Has any information on record 19309 been removed?

6. If so, by whom, and when?

7. If so, why?

8. What investigations did Detective Constable Snoad make about this matter before he spoke to Detective Constable Hughes?

9. Did either Detective Constable Hughes or one of his superiors cause enquiries to be made about the provenance of the 19309 entry?

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by kangdang on 29.09.10 18:48

One important point I would like clarified is, is this a system to record child abuse which by definition would cover child neglect also. The reason I ask is that if I recall correctly, perhaps Tony could confirm whether my recollection is correct or not, in social work child abuse and child neglect are two seperate matters, although of course instances of both can be related in some cases.

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Child abuse and child neglect discussed

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.09.10 19:16

@kangdang wrote:One important point I would like clarified is, is this a system to record child abuse which by definition would cover child neglect also. The reason I ask is that if I recall correctly, perhaps Tony could confirm whether my recollection is correct or not, in social work child abuse and child neglect are two separate matters, although of course instances of both can be related in some cases.
The first point to note is that on reading the CATS information, there appear to be two sub-categories for recording child abuse: (1) child abuse and (2) domestic violence.

I think the 'domestic violence' may be there because children in a household can be considered at risk if their parents are violent towards each other.

The Children Act 1989 contains this definition of significant harm:

Significant harm

2.9 A child is defined as being subject of significant harm where there is ill treatment or impairment of health or development:

• 'Ill-treatment' includes sexual and emotional abuse as well as physical abuse

• 'Health' includes physical and mental health

• 'Development' includes physical, intellectual, emotional, social and behavioural development

• 'Significant Harm' turns on the question of the harm suffered by a child in respect of its health and development compared with the health and development reasonably expected of another child.

(Section 31(10) Child Act 1989)

Neglect can be brought in under some of the above e.g. not feeding a child adequately is impairing a child's health & development.

Leaving young children unattended might come under the same heading.

Child neglect is punishable under the Children and Young Persons Act 1933, that includes cases of leaving young children on their own and was the Act used in my unsuccessful attempt to obtain a summons against the McCanns.

Assaulting a child is punishable under laws relating to common assault, offences of violence, indecent assault, rape etc.

You made this statement: "...in social work child abuse and child neglect are two separate matters".

No, this is incorrect, physical, emotional, sexual abuse and neglect are all forms or types of child abuse.

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by kangdang on 29.09.10 19:23

Ok, thank you Tony. I thought there were two distinct categories - child abuse occuring when a child is harmed via physical, emotional, or sexual means and neglect occuring when a child's basic needs are not met ie food, shelter etc and adequate protection.



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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by nomendelta on 25.06.11 10:19

I'm fairly new to this forum and this particular thread is absolutely new to me despite not having any additions recently. As it was new to me I decided to do a google search on Gerry McCann CATS system and a rather interesting couple of mentions on different forums by someone called KaOssis concerning specific allegations about Gerry McCann (which I am choosing not to repeat here) came up.

These allegations, by their specificity, could be extremely important to the case. Does anyone have any further information?

It also occurs to me that there is another way of perhaps confirming or refuting these allegations. If we can find records to build up a picture of where he was in 2002 then we can see if there are any interesting gaps in the records. I am willing to believe the possibiity that the allegations may be true and certain records have been wiped to protect higher-ups BUT I am also sure if there's any truth to this matter there will be a slip up somewhere and we can pinpoint a gap in his resumè.

Thoughts?

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Post by Guest on 25.06.11 11:52

Are you referring to the David Payne and Gaspar statement, or something else. Key words will suffice?

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Post by Gillyspot on 25.06.11 11:57

Pro Mccanns are saying that the file was always empty but why make a file to leave it empty?

No way that would happen at the very least the visit(s) by Social Workers to the Mccanns house in Rothley would be in it.

As usual a Mccann cover up!

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Post by nomendelta on 25.06.11 12:09

Stella wrote:Are you referring to the David Payne and Gaspar statement, or something else. Key words will suffice?

No, not the Gaspar statements. Google what I said and you should see two or three examples of pretty much the same post by KaOssis. Long story short it alleges that a certain individual key to this case was convicted for very relevant charges in 2002 and that one of his mason buddies equipped to do so wiped the details but some records still exist. If there was any truth to this I would think that finding out what said individual was up to in 2002 would shed light on the matter.

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Post by Gillyspot on 25.06.11 12:14

Suffolk Police state that "When a CATS investigation is allocated to an officer for investigation, they will ensure
that a detailed ‘initial investigation details and summary’ log will be completed.
This log entry should contain specific details of the allegation and the intended
course of action for the investigating officer."

http://www.suffolk.police.uk/NR/rdonlyres/0D2A0D35-D394-4459-8C47-71B287D11A02/0/CATSCaseAdministrationTrackingSystem.pdf

CATS is not just protecting children from paedophiles it is "Child Protection and Domestic Abuse" .

http://www.wpcsoft.com/products/CATS.html

So it is pretty clear there was something in this file at one time so the question is Who Removed It?

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Post by Guest on 25.06.11 12:19

But we still do not have a date for that CATS entry. What if it coincides with the Gaspar statement? Would that alone trigger a CATS entry?

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Post by Baronstu on 25.06.11 12:22

This may be a red herring.

Cartas Rogatorias Vol III
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Leicestershire Police Force

From: DC443 J.N. HUGHES
To: SIO, Operation Task
Department: Main Criminal Unit
Date: 16th May 2008

Ref: Background Information– Kate McCann


Dear Sirs,

In response to your letter of request, I can provide the following information regarding the above-mentioned subject.


Kate McCann was born on March 5, 1968 in Merseyside.
Her maiden name is Healy, which she still uses in her clinical practice.
She is the bearer of British passport number **************.

She lives with her husband and children at Orchard House, 5 The Crescent, Rothley, Leicestershire, LE7 7RW. The house is subject to a mortgage for the amount of GBP 323.493 with the Northern Rock bank.

There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individual maintains an account open with the same bank or credit card accounts for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this kind of search.

She works for the local NHS as a GP in Latham House, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire. She is currently on maternity leave.

Her phone number is ******* and she has a T mobile phone number ********.
There is no record of either of her surnames on the National Police Computer.

The search reference is NE84/0053/4.

A check of the location of the crime and information system is negative.

Inquiries made of local social services are negative.

Searches made of the local section of child abuse investigation shows a registration number 19309 in CATS (system of action location). A consultation with the DC Soand from the department in question confirms that this is just a file reference, but as a complement to Operation Task system for the purpose of reference, if any investigation should be necessary by the department. No work has been done on the basis of this file.

An examination of all other police files using a search system does not reveal any information about her.

Submitted for your information.

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Post by Baronstu on 25.06.11 13:24

She lives with her husband and children at Orchard House, 5 The Crescent, Rothley, Leicestershire, LE7 7RW. The house is subject to a mortgage for the amount of GBP 323.493 with the Northern Rock bank.

I would really like to know what the outstanding mortgage is now.

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Post by Guest on 25.06.11 13:38

She is currently on maternity leave.

The letter is dated 16th May 2008, how can KM have been on maternity leave. The twins would have been 3years and 3 months old at that date???

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Post by lj on 25.06.11 13:56

Maybe I'm a bit dense but wouldn't loosing a child because you left them alone qualify you for an entry?

I googled "Gerry McCann CATS system" but I can't find posts by KaOssis or whatever his name is. Do you have a link?

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Post by Baronstu on 25.06.11 14:00

@lj wrote:Maybe I'm a bit dense but wouldn't loosing a child because you left them alone qualify you for an entry?

I googled "Gerry McCann CATS system" but I can't find posts by KaOssis or whatever his name is. Do you have a link?

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/peadophile-ring-with-link-to-madeleine-mccann-jailed/
Go down the page to the replies.

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Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

Post by lj on 25.06.11 14:04

@Baronstu wrote:
@lj wrote:Maybe I'm a bit dense but wouldn't loosing a child because you left them alone qualify you for an entry?

I googled "Gerry McCann CATS system" but I can't find posts by KaOssis or whatever his name is. Do you have a link?

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/peadophile-ring-with-link-to-madeleine-mccann-jailed/
Go down the page to the replies.

Interesting, thanks Baronstu!!

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Post by ufercoffy on 25.06.11 14:27

candyfloss wrote:She is currently on maternity leave.

The letter is dated 16th May 2008, how can KM have been on maternity leave. The twins would have been 3years and 3 months old at that date???

That bit jumped out at me too....

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