2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I'm glad to see Gerry do his bit for equal opportunities by appearing at the mother-and-toddler group! 

A nice photo of Madeleine on her own - can anyone tell if the coloboma is there? It doesn't seem noticable to me.

sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




Madeleine at 9 months




Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Hmmm, yes that's what I thought but wasn't sure about it.
It's just as well isn't it that they "never made much of it" and Kate omitted it entirely from her book....

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It's the sort of thing that a mother would say about a much older daughter - once you're past the horrible teenage years when the last person a girl wants to be with is her mother.

It's another example of Kate trying to show us that she was such a hands-on caring mother but it just reinforces the idea that she doesn't have a clue about bringing up children and what activities are age appropriate or not.

Châtelaine wrote:A one-year-old enjoying a movie at home is about as realistic as a 3-year-old being fan of Dr. Who and Harry Potter.
I sometimes wonder if the child really existed.

plebgate wrote:

sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




Madeleine at 9 months




Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004

No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.

Portia wrote:

plebgate wrote:

sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




Madeleine at 9 months




Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004

No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.

Also, it's highly unusual in the Netherlands -where Amsterdam is- for women alone to visit a cafe in daytime, let alone with a baby, let alone an expectant mother with a baby (= the twins!); cafes were and are considered unsafe for babies because everybody smoked in there till smokiing was banned two years ago, which danger would also hold true for expectant women. 

Socially, unattended women do not go into a cafe, it's just isn't done. Maybe with friends, but never on their own. This could easlily be considered soliciting. 

And unattended ladies do not dream of entering cafes during daytime, ever, only tearooms.

sharonl wrote:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

" ...or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

lj wrote:

Portia wrote:

plebgate wrote:

sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




Madeleine at 9 months




Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004

No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.

Also, it's highly unusual in the Netherlands -where Amsterdam is- for women alone to visit a cafe in daytime, let alone with a baby, let alone an expectant mother with a baby (= the twins!); cafes were and are considered unsafe for babies because everybody smoked in there till smokiing was banned two years ago, which danger would also hold true for expectant women. 

Socially, unattended women do not go into a cafe, it's just isn't done. Maybe with friends, but never on their own. This could easlily be considered soliciting. 

And unattended ladies do not dream of entering cafes during daytime, ever, only tearooms.

Uuuhhh????

I won't give you my age but I can tell you this woman went alone to cafes since the early 60 ties. You might say I'm not a lady, maybe, but I met unaccompanied true  ladies there often enough.

My oldest first trip outside was with her dad to a cafe, yes one of those old all smoked over "bruin cafes" where they serve jenever before breakfast. He thought it's never early enough to get used to that.

tigger wrote:From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

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a) Maddie would be 8 months old, not 7

b) MRI would be cardiac MRI - cardiology Magnetic resonance imaging not CRI imo

c) lazy 'girl's'afternoon - treating ourselves to a movie - A child of 8 months  can't really be included in such pursuits, the lazy girls are supposed to be looking after the baby, who will only have limited interest in a movie.
d) at just over six months old, November 03, Maddie 'started a nursery'. Jolly good, lucky it was near their home. 6 months?

aquila wrote:

tigger wrote:The writer is this book is clearly an American-speaker - according to the excerpt about "lazy girls' afternoon".
He also uses the word "movie" instead of film (or fillum - as pronounced in Scouse).
I say "he" because of this passage which any mother who has brought up a baby/toddler would know, is complete nonsense. In fact, the writer may never had had a daughter or even children and possibly no experience of children - is possibly male and on the young side. It's easy just to use this slate Kate, but in my humble opinion, she did not write this book, see below.

The whole image described in the short paragraph, is that of a very hot soporific afternoon where a young woman is having some "me down-time" with a best friend (or girlfriend as they say in the US bit not in UK as it has totally different connotations of a romantic or sexual nature). It seems to me that the American writer is talking about living in the heat of the deep south or somewhere where the climate differs from Northern Europe?

Judging from this excerpt (and a couple of others I've come across in blogs and from the same book), Kate had little input into the book at all. It seems to have been written by someone Kate hasn't much, or at all, consulted about the subject at hand, and someone she definitely doesn't know very well! I guess if the writer lives in America, Kate may not have had much personal face to face discussions with him(her). Could be written by multiple persons but all American.

Anyway, my point is that Gerry McCann was in Washington in July 2007 (flew from Portugal?). According to some new Wikileaks emails, he seemed to know some people there. This absence was around the same time Kate almost confessed via her dream to the Police; why sniffer dogs were brought in and why they were finally made suspects.






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c) lazy 'girl's'afternoon - treating ourselves to a movie - A child of 8 months  can't really be included in such pursuits, the lazy girls are supposed to be looking after the baby, who will only have limited interest in a movie.
d)Creche would have been a better thing to say but then so would film instead of movie. Appealing to the American reader?

Anyway, a creche to provide childcare so that a mum can return to work would only be needed for the 1 and a half days Kate was working....heaven forbid the much loved and wanted baby Madeleine was left in a creche on any other days!

sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

04 CARTAS ROGATORIAS UK (FILE 4) pages 1 TO 2

cr4_1 cr4_1 1 to 2  Witness statement of Amanda Jane Coxon (former McCann cleaning woman) 2008.05.02 Leicestershire Police Force Statement by: Amanda Jane Coxon Date: 2nd May 2008 I am a friend of Gerry and Kate, I used to work for them and also looked after the children. I got to know Gerry and Kate in the year 2000, I worked as a cleaner in their house in Queniborough, once a week. From the beginning they were always a very friendly couple.  ** During the time I worked there, Kate had her first daughter, Madeleine. Kate asked me whether I would look after Madeleine twice a week when she returned to work part time. I agreed and she would leave Madeleine at my house and come and pick her up later in the day.**   Kate, Gerry and Madeleine moved to Amsterdam for a year and when they returned Kate was pregnant with the twins. The twins were born in February 2006 and from that time I helped to look after them.