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Post by sharonl on 03.10.13 9:56

Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




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Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 03.10.13 10:09

I'm glad to see Gerry do his bit for equal opportunities by appearing at the mother-and-toddler group! 

A nice photo of Madeleine on her own - can anyone tell if the coloboma is there? It doesn't seem noticable to me.

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Post by sharonl on 03.10.13 10:15

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I'm glad to see Gerry do his bit for equal opportunities by appearing at the mother-and-toddler group! 

A nice photo of Madeleine on her own - can anyone tell if the coloboma is there? It doesn't seem noticable to me.
I have had the photograph enhanced and enlarged and neither me nor others can see any sign of a coloboma there.

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 03.10.13 12:18

Hmmm, yes that's what I thought but wasn't sure about it.

It's just as well isn't it that they "never made much of it" and Kate omitted it entirely from her book....

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Post by plebgate on 03.10.13 12:23

@sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




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Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004

No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.

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Post by PeterMac on 03.10.13 12:26

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Hmmm, yes that's what I thought but wasn't sure about it.
It's just as well isn't it that they "never made much of it" and Kate omitted it entirely from her book....
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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by aquila on 03.10.13 12:50

"Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

What an odd statement - definitely in need of Hob's expertise.

"Madeleine and I would go to the park" not 'I took Madeleine to the park and we fed the ducks, played on the swings, etc' - no activity, nothing about Madeleine or what she and her mum did together.


'drop into a cafe' is even odder - not 'sometimes I'd take Madeleine to a cafe on the way home, she loved hot chocolate....'


and the most odd of all is 'just enjoy a lazy girls' afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake'. How could a child of around 1 year old enjoy a lazy girls' afternoon? How could a child of that age treat themselves to a 'movie' - that's an Americanism - and a slice of cake? why is a slice of cake a treat?


It's all rubbish to me. It's not the way a mother speaks - especially a mother who is writing this bewk for her lost daughter.


It seems to me that Kate must have led a pretty lonely existence in Holland and looking after Madeleine during the day sparked nothing for her to write about with any animation because there wasn't anything really nice to write about for Kate.

Kate does better with grown ups and nannies and 'me time' which is essentially what she's stated in the above.


Just my opinion of course.

Oh, and for the record, I'm sure I'm allowed to give an opinion on Kate's bewk. It's a product.

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Post by Guest on 03.10.13 13:00

It's the sort of thing that a mother would say about a much older daughter - once you're past the horrible teenage years when the last person a girl wants to be with is her mother.

It's another example of Kate trying to show us that she was such a hands-on caring mother but it just reinforces the idea that she doesn't have a clue about bringing up children and what activities are age appropriate or not.

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Post by aquila on 03.10.13 13:22

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It's the sort of thing that a mother would say about a much older daughter - once you're past the horrible teenage years when the last person a girl wants to be with is her mother.

It's another example of Kate trying to show us that she was such a hands-on caring mother but it just reinforces the idea that she doesn't have a clue about bringing up children and what activities are age appropriate or not.
Yep, it's 'lewk at me, lewk at me agony, lewk at me bewk' and 'ger out yer cheque bewk to help find our Madeleine' and 'if you disagree wit me you'll gerra belt from yer Da' - sorry, I was drifting into a Cilla song there and found meself conjuring up analogies to the use of highly paid libel lawyers.

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 03.10.13 17:12

A one-year-old enjoying a movie at home is about as realistic as a 3-year-old being fan of Dr. Who and Harry Potter.
I sometimes wonder if the child really existed.

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Post by ShuBob on 03.10.13 17:19

Châtelaine wrote:A one-year-old enjoying a movie at home is about as realistic as a 3-year-old being fan of Dr. Who and Harry Potter.
I sometimes wonder if the child really existed.
I've often wondered about Kate's mental health prior to Maddie's disappearance.

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 03.10.13 17:22

I've wondered about that on subsequent occasions too!

By the way, I saw this headline in The Sun today while on a train. "Maddie's dad cried for help over book of lies".

Now I know this is too predictable but I can't help it. Kate, look what you've done, you really shouldn't have written that book!!

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Post by ShuBob on 03.10.13 17:29

It gives me to pleasure to say this but IMO Kate hasn't been of sound mind for a long time- even before Maddie's disappearance.

PS: If Trish and the rest of the family really thought Kate wasn't doing well following the release of The Truth of the Lie, was it wise of them to let her go on long runs alone? Did they not fear she may not return one day?

Another witness with a nonsense testimony bored 

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Post by Woofer on 03.10.13 17:43

IMO Kate has always exhibited an immature attitude to her daughter, referring to her as Mini-Me and being girls together; I think she even referred to her once as my best friend (or something similar).  This is someone who is not ready to be a parent as still a child herself.  As for giving her cake at 1 years old - wouldn`t a doctor know that cake contains sugar?

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 03.10.13 17:53

@plebgate wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




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Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004
No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.
Also, it's highly unusual in the Netherlands -where Amsterdam is- for women alone to visit a cafe in daytime, let alone with a baby, let alone an expectant mother with a baby (= the twins!); cafes were and are considered unsafe for babies because everybody smoked in there till smokiing was banned two years ago, which danger would also hold true for expectant women. 

Socially, unattended women do not go into a cafe, it's just isn't done. Maybe with friends, but never on their own. This could easlily be considered soliciting. 

And unattended ladies do not dream of entering cafes during daytime, ever, only tearooms.

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Post by lj on 04.10.13 3:05

@Portia wrote:
@plebgate wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




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Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004
No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.
Also, it's highly unusual in the Netherlands -where Amsterdam is- for women alone to visit a cafe in daytime, let alone with a baby, let alone an expectant mother with a baby (= the twins!); cafes were and are considered unsafe for babies because everybody smoked in there till smokiing was banned two years ago, which danger would also hold true for expectant women. 

Socially, unattended women do not go into a cafe, it's just isn't done. Maybe with friends, but never on their own. This could easlily be considered soliciting. 

And unattended ladies do not dream of entering cafes during daytime, ever, only tearooms.

Uuuhhh????

I won't give you my age but I can tell you this woman went alone to cafes since the early 60 ties. You might say I'm not a lady, maybe, but I met unaccompanied true ladies there often enough.

My oldest first trip outside was with her dad to a cafe, yes one of those old all smoked over "bruin cafes" where they serve jenever before breakfast. He thought it's never early enough to get used to that.

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 04.10.13 10:14

@sharonl wrote:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

" ...or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

The child who could throw a tantrum? The screamer?

It's not like Kate could slip Madeleine a little something to help her sleep for the afternoon while Kate put her feet up with a movie and a bottle of New Zealand's finest slice of cake is it?

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Re: 2 new pics Gerry and Madeleine in Amsterdam February 2004

Post by Guest on 04.10.13 11:19

@lj wrote:
@Portia wrote:
@plebgate wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Two new pics of Gerry and Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004:

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”




Madeleine at 9 months




Gerry with Madeleine at the mother-and-toddler group, Amsterdam, February 2004
No sign of colic on those lazy girls' afternoon treats then.
Also, it's highly unusual in the Netherlands -where Amsterdam is- for women alone to visit a cafe in daytime, let alone with a baby, let alone an expectant mother with a baby (= the twins!); cafes were and are considered unsafe for babies because everybody smoked in there till smokiing was banned two years ago, which danger would also hold true for expectant women. 

Socially, unattended women do not go into a cafe, it's just isn't done. Maybe with friends, but never on their own. This could easlily be considered soliciting. 

And unattended ladies do not dream of entering cafes during daytime, ever, only tearooms.
Uuuhhh????

I won't give you my age but I can tell you this woman went alone to cafes since the early 60 ties. You might say I'm not a lady, maybe, but I met unaccompanied true  ladies there often enough.

My oldest first trip outside was with her dad to a cafe, yes one of those old all smoked over "bruin cafes" where they serve jenever before breakfast. He thought it's never early enough to get used to that.
As in: tongue in cheek :)

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Post by tigger on 04.10.13 11:33

From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

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a) Maddie would be 8 months old, not 7

b) MRI would be cardiac MRI - cardiology Magnetic resonance imaging not CRI imo

c) lazy 'girl's'afternoon - treating ourselves to a movie - A child of 8 months  can't really be included in such pursuits, the lazy girls are supposed to be looking after the baby, who will only have limited interest in a movie.
d) at just over six months old, November 03, Maddie 'started a nursery'. Jolly good, lucky it was near their home. 6 months?

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Post by aquila on 04.10.13 11:37

@tigger wrote:From 'Madeleine', by Kate McCann, pp. 32-33:

"I returned to work part-time In November 2003, while Madeleine started at a nursery near our home…As it turned out, this arrangement didn’t last long: in January 2004, when Madeleine was seven months old, we rented out our house and moved for a year to Amsterdam, where Gerry had a fellowship to study cardiac resonance imaging (MRI). The use of this specialised imaging technique in cardiology was at that time relatively new in the U.K., and the posting was a big success. Gerry’s great new colleagues soon became firm friends and what he learned in Amsterdam advanced his career on our return…Madeleine and I would go to the park, drop into a café or just enjoy a lazy girls’ afternoon in our apartment, treating ourselves to a movie and a slice of cake. It was a little piece of heaven…”

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a) Maddie would be 8 months old, not 7

b) MRI would be cardiac MRI - cardiology Magnetic resonance imaging not CRI imo

c) lazy 'girl's'afternoon - treating ourselves to a movie - A child of 8 months  can't really be included in such pursuits, the lazy girls are supposed to be looking after the baby, who will only have limited interest in a movie.
d) at just over six months old, November 03, Maddie 'started a nursery'. Jolly good, lucky it was near their home. 6 months?
Creche would have been a better thing to say but then so would film instead of movie. Appealing to the American reader?

Anyway, a creche to provide childcare so that a mum can return to work would only be needed for the 1 and a half days Kate was working....heaven forbid the much loved and wanted baby Madeleine was left in a creche on any other days!

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