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Post by Cheshire Cat on 02.12.12 8:54

UK NEWS



HAS GERRY MCCANN 'HARMED' SEARCH FOR MADELEINE

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361929/Has-Gerry-McCann-%27harmed%27-search-for-Madeleine/





Kate McCann has never given up her fight to find Madeleine



Sunday December 2,2012


By Tracey Kandohla



KATE McCann fears her husband’s criticism of the Prime Minister may hamper the search for missing daughter Madeleine.



Gerry McCann hit out after David Cameron rejected Lord Leveson’s call for a new press law. He said that while he respected the PM he disagreed with his viewpoint.

Kate simply urged Mr Cameron to “embrace the report and act swiftly”. A source close to the McCanns said yesterday: “Kate and Gerry are relying on the Prime Minister to keep the Scotland Yard review, which he ordered, ongoing.

“The last thing Kate wants is to annoy or upset the PM and does not want there to be any backlash.” Kate now wants reassurance from the Government that the 18-month case review will continue.

The McCanns and the parents of Milly Dowler were among victims of press intrusion who declined to meet Culture Secretary Maria Miller to discuss the report. Kate wants to reschedule the meeting. The Home Office said there was no deadline on the Met review.






The last thing Kate wants is to annoy or upset the PM and does not want there to be any backlash


A source close to the McCanns

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Post by aquila on 02.12.12 9:54

What search?

The search by the Portuguese Police? that was shelved and could have been re-opened by request.

The Private Investigator search? the PI's contracts are finished.

The SY search? It's not a search it's a review.

The McCann's search? What McCann's search would that be?

The general public's search? That's ongoing. You can buy posters, holiday packs and t shirts to remind people and be vigilant to report any sightings.

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 10:30

We can always rely on fellow Rothley resident Tracey Kandohla to come up with absolute gems about the McCanns.

You actually need to have started something (looking for Madeleine) to be in the position of never giving up.

However, it's interesting that, if true, there are disagreements in the ranks.

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Post by ShuBob on 02.12.12 12:49

I must admit when I saw the thread title, I thought it was made up by the OP . I'm stunned the Express actually wrote that. Perhaps, I shouldn't be

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Sucking up

Post by Guest on 02.12.12 13:04

Seems to me the McCs are hedging their bets: He with his self professed eye on the wider issue (as in becoming an elected MP perhaps?) in bed with DM; she more 'sympathetic' to DC.
So whichever way the wind turns, one of them is there to be seen to have jumped on the 'winning' bandwagon right from the start.

Good cop vs bad cop; the age old ploy.

Neither Tory nor Labour, lost/took/abducted or neglected Maddie Mc Cann however, and neither can ever bring her back.

Only the reconstruction might have been a first step.

So how come these McCs are so full of venom against the as-yet-to-be-redeemed British politicians now? Are any more payments expected to be extractable from the British taxpayers, through them?

Thought so!

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Post by Woofer on 02.12.12 13:08

Was Kate involved in this piece by TK or is it something thought up by TK independently just to raise a story?

If Kate was involved, is it her and GM planning a `bad cop, good cop` scenario as is usually their practise - him the aggressive one, her the passive victim.

I find it hard to believe that, if they are still together, the McCanns would have condoned this disagreement between them.

The headline is just ridiculous because they, above all others, have harmed the search for Maddie IMO. My goodness, do they think we are all stupid? Obviously they do.

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 13:33

@Woofer wrote:Was Kate involved in this piece by TK or is it something thought up by TK independently just to raise a story?

If Kate was involved, is it her and GM planning a `bad cop, good cop` scenario as is usually their practise - him the aggressive one, her the passive victim.

I find it hard to believe that, if they are still together, the McCanns would have condoned this disagreement between them.

The headline is just ridiculous because they, above all others, have harmed the search for Maddie IMO. My goodness, do they think we are all stupid? Obviously they do.

So now, if the money for the SY review EVER dries up, this will be laid at DC's door, claiming that he is such a little and vindictive man that he turned of the public funds in order to get back at GM?

What next to expect? Oh wait!

Wasn't it the very same DC who let inadvertently (?) fly very publicly, that there was mention of a vanished child stored in a fridge?
And isn't this exactly what's in the PJs files?
And has this DC yes/no already been briefed extensively on these files and of a probable outcome of the review?

Surely, these are interesting times. I feel for the McCs in a way, though, what with GM complaining that the twins are now approaching internet/Google ages. My friends, tell the truth, before they find out for themselves!

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Post by ShuBob on 02.12.12 13:47

@Portia wrote:
@Woofer wrote:Was Kate involved in this piece by TK or is it something thought up by TK independently just to raise a story?

If Kate was involved, is it her and GM planning a `bad cop, good cop` scenario as is usually their practise - him the aggressive one, her the passive victim.

I find it hard to believe that, if they are still together, the McCanns would have condoned this disagreement between them.

The headline is just ridiculous because they, above all others, have harmed the search for Maddie IMO. My goodness, do they think we are all stupid? Obviously they do.

So now, if the money for the SY review EVER dries up, this will be laid at DC's door, claiming that he is such a little and vindictive man that he turned of the public funds in order to get back at GM?

What next to expect? Oh wait!

Wasn't it the very same DC who let inadvertently (?) fly very publicly, that there was mention of a vanished child stored in a fridge?
And isn't this exactly what's in the PJs files?
And has this DC yes/no already been briefed extensively on these files and of a probable outcome of the review?

Surely, these are interesting times. I feel for the McCs in a way, though, what with GM complaining that the twins are now approaching internet/Google ages. My friends, tell the truth, before they find out for themselves!

And from my reading of the section of the Leveson Report concentrating on the McCanns (thanks to Pamalam ), Leveson concluded that he could found no evidence for the freezer claim contrary to Kate's evidence to the inquiry. This was the only claim I noticed Leveson challenge during my cursory read. Now I wonder why the particular claim which Leveson could find no evidence for is the claim Cameron chose to repeat

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 13:54

@ShuBob wrote:
@Portia wrote:
@Woofer wrote:Was Kate involved in this piece by TK or is it something thought up by TK independently just to raise a story?

If Kate was involved, is it her and GM planning a `bad cop, good cop` scenario as is usually their practise - him the aggressive one, her the passive victim.

I find it hard to believe that, if they are still together, the McCanns would have condoned this disagreement between them.

The headline is just ridiculous because they, above all others, have harmed the search for Maddie IMO. My goodness, do they think we are all stupid? Obviously they do.

So now, if the money for the SY review EVER dries up, this will be laid at DC's door, claiming that he is such a little and vindictive man that he turned of the public funds in order to get back at GM?

What next to expect? Oh wait!

Wasn't it the very same DC who let inadvertently (?) fly very publicly, that there was mention of a vanished child stored in a fridge?
And isn't this exactly what's in the PJs files?
And has this DC yes/no already been briefed extensively on these files and of a probable outcome of the review?

Surely, these are interesting times. I feel for the McCs in a way, though, what with GM complaining that the twins are now approaching internet/Google ages. My friends, tell the truth, before they find out for themselves!

And from my reading of the section of the Leveson Report concentrating on the McCanns (thanks to Pamalam ), Leveson concluded that he could found no evidence for the freezer claim contrary to Kate's evidence to the inquiry. This was the only claim I noticed Leveson challenge during my cursory read. Now I wonder why the particular claim which Leveson could find no evidence for is the claim Cameron chose to repeat

IMO Levson went off the rails immediately, attesting without any visible research of his own, to the veracity of the abduction story. All other mishaps in his take on the plight of the McCs stemmed from that.

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Post by ShuBob on 02.12.12 14:04

I agree Portia.

From the bit I read, Leveson takes the McCanns' word for it almost on every point EXCEPT for the freezer claim. Why, then, did Cameron choose that particular claim to make whatever point he was making?

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Post by Angelique on 02.12.12 14:29

Oh, don't tell me this whole saga is going to hinge on "a freezer" too impossible for words.

If memory serves me it was mentioned, wasn't it?, in Gerry's blogs before he redacted them. Then it went viral throughout the Forums and occasionally surfaces now and then. Even I remember reading about it and writing about it. Does this mean DC has read or reads the Forums?

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Post by tigger on 02.12.12 14:49

Somewhere in the recent posts it's clear that DC got it from Kate. Kate is quoted somewhere as saying that the press even said they'd hidden the body in a freezer.
DC repeats this as an example of the lies told by the press. Of all the objections to the press the fridge/freezer issue is one which isn't generally known by the public. Thanks to Kate and DC, they do now. Bad move imo. smilie


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Post by ShuBob on 02.12.12 14:52

It is a bit worrying that DC takes the words of suspects in their daughter's disappearance for it without question.

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 15:00

@Angelique wrote:Oh, don't tell me this whole saga is going to hinge on "a freezer" too impossible for words.

If memory serves me it was mentioned, wasn't it?, in Gerry's blogs before he redacted them. Then it went viral throughout the Forums and occasionally surfaces now and then. Even I remember reading about it and writing about it. Does this mean DC has read or reads the Forums?

Maybe. More likely: SY have already briefed him in considerable detail, having to explain why they still feel the need for an allowance from the public coffers.

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Post by goingdutch on 02.12.12 17:29

Hi, I have been a long time lurker and this is my first post. This article in the Sunday Express has surprised me today more than the other one about Gerry ruining the search for Madeleine. Jenny Murat is writing a book to put forward their side of the story on the Madeleine McCann case but what surprises me even more is the headline. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361930/Jenny-Murat-Kate-McCann-printed-such-awful-things-about-my-Robert-in-her-Madeleine-book KATE MCCANN PRINTED SUCH AWFUL THINGS ABOUT MY ROBERT IN HER MADELEINE BOOK . I hope we see more of this, rather than the one-sided reporting we have had in the last five years.

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Post by Woofer on 02.12.12 17:31

Silly Dave put himself in a vulnerable position when he said at the start of the Inquiry that it would have to be satisfactory to the Dowlers and McCanns. IMO both he and Leveson have been rather naive when it comes to seeing what game the McCanns are playing, and many of the other witnesses. Swearing on oath these days means nought to some people.

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Post by Woofer on 02.12.12 17:33

@goingdutch wrote:Hi, I have been a long time lurker and this is my first post. This article in the Sunday Express has surprised me today more than the other one about Gerry ruining the search for Madeleine. Jenny Murat is writing a book to put forward their side of the story on the Madeleine McCann case but what surprises me even more is the headline. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361930/Jenny-Murat-Kate-McCann-printed-such-awful-things-about-my-Robert-in-her-Madeleine-book KATE MCCANN PRINTED SUCH AWFUL THINGS ABOUT MY ROBERT IN HER MADELEINE BOOK . I hope we see more of this, rather than the one-sided reporting we have had in the last five years.

Welcome goingdutch.

You`re right - it is a good sign and hopefully it with spur a few more people to speak out.

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Post by russiandoll on 02.12.12 17:36

quote " Kate McCann fears her husband’s criticism of the Prime Minister may hamper the search for missing daughter Madeleine "
Does this mean she might sue her husband?

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 02.12.12 17:39

@russiandoll wrote:quote " Kate McCann fears her husband’s criticism of the Prime Minister may hamper the search for missing daughter Madeleine "
Does this mean she might sue her husband?

Excellent point, perhaps he'll be Rucked before long!!

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 17:44

@goingdutch wrote:Hi, I have been a long time lurker and this is my first post. This article in the Sunday Express has surprised me today more than the other one about Gerry ruining the search for Madeleine. Jenny Murat is writing a book to put forward their side of the story on the Madeleine McCann case but what surprises me even more is the headline. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361930/Jenny-Murat-Kate-McCann-printed-such-awful-things-about-my-Robert-in-her-Madeleine-book KATE MCCANN PRINTED SUCH AWFUL THINGS ABOUT MY ROBERT IN HER MADELEINE BOOK . I hope we see more of this, rather than the one-sided reporting we have had in the last five years.

Hi goingdutch, welcome to the forum

Yes, very surprising to see those headlines today

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 18:09

@Woofer wrote:Silly Dave put himself in a vulnerable position when he said at the start of the Inquiry that it would have to be satisfactory to the Dowlers and McCanns. IMO both he and Leveson have been rather naive when it comes to seeing what game the McCanns are playing, and many of the other witnesses. Swearing on oath these days means nought to some people.
I don't think for a minute either of them are naive. The PM will imo use anybody who attracts a lot of publicity, but he'd ditch them just as quickly. I don't personally think any of these people believe in K&G 100% - they're just using them, at the moment.

I think the PM created the Inquiry just to get himself out of a hole last year, and he always had the intention of fighting whatever Leveson concluded, and he may well have had the McCanns in mind as one tool he could possibly use.

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Post by Ribisl on 02.12.12 18:21

GM has bitten the hand that fed them so well for so long. Now he will have to face the media backlash which might end up costing him millions more in C-R's fees.

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Post by sonic72 on 02.12.12 21:37

Scotland Yard should bill the McCann's for the costs involved in the review.

I do not want my taxes being spent on these two liars. They have a fund that has had millions go through it, so they can afford to foot the bill for the SY review.

David Cameron needs to speed up the review, get it done and dusted, and wash his hands of the McCann's. They are really pushing their own luck right now, they should pipe down before they get bitten.

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Post by Woofer on 02.12.12 22:26

tcat wrote:
@Woofer wrote:Silly Dave put himself in a vulnerable position when he said at the start of the Inquiry that it would have to be satisfactory to the Dowlers and McCanns. IMO both he and Leveson have been rather naive when it comes to seeing what game the McCanns are playing, and many of the other witnesses. Swearing on oath these days means nought to some people.
I don't think for a minute either of them are naive. The PM will imo use anybody who attracts a lot of publicity, but he'd ditch them just as quickly. I don't personally think any of these people believe in K&G 100% - they're just using them, at the moment.

I think the PM created the Inquiry just to get himself out of a hole last year, and he always had the intention of fighting whatever Leveson concluded, and he may well have had the McCanns in mind as one tool he could possibly use.

It beats me how Leveson (and many others) seemed to believe what the Mcs said just because they said so - this is one of the main things that I cannot understand in this case - why people like Andy Redwood just accept what they say. The only conclusion I can draw is that they are either stupid or naive. One would hope that Leveson is a wise man, but perhaps not `street wise`. Yes, Dave just spouts off whatever gets people off his back in that moment, same as most politicians and why one cannot believe a single word they say. Maybe Leveson had no alternative but to make out he believed the Mcs.

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Post by Guest on 02.12.12 23:55

@Woofer wrote:
tcat wrote:
@Woofer wrote:Silly Dave put himself in a vulnerable position when he said at the start of the Inquiry that it would have to be satisfactory to the Dowlers and McCanns. IMO both he and Leveson have been rather naive when it comes to seeing what game the McCanns are playing, and many of the other witnesses. Swearing on oath these days means nought to some people.
I don't think for a minute either of them are naive. The PM will imo use anybody who attracts a lot of publicity, but he'd ditch them just as quickly. I don't personally think any of these people believe in K&G 100% - they're just using them, at the moment.

I think the PM created the Inquiry just to get himself out of a hole last year, and he always had the intention of fighting whatever Leveson concluded, and he may well have had the McCanns in mind as one tool he could possibly use.

It beats me how Leveson (and many others) seemed to believe what the Mcs said just because they said so - this is one of the main things that I cannot understand in this case - why people like Andy Redwood just accept what they say. The only conclusion I can draw is that they are either stupid or naive. One would hope that Leveson is a wise man, but perhaps not `street wise`. Yes, Dave just spouts off whatever gets people off his back in that moment, same as most politicians and why one cannot believe a single word they say. Maybe Leveson had no alternative but to make out he believed the Mcs.
Maybe he thought it might potentially undermine his Inquiry if he didn't treat them the way he did? I think he probably expected the PM to react the way he did to his proposals, and certainly he'd expect the papers to. Perhaps he thought the press might try to disrupt the Inquiry if he showed any dissent from the their line on Madeleine's disappearance?
Or Leveson might trust them 100%. I'd be surprised, but he might. I'm sure the PM doesn't - he doesn't even trust himself 100%

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