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le© Provided by The Telegraph Madeleine McCann is still in the Algarve, claims mother
Kate McCann has said she believes her daughter Madeleine is still in the Algarve because her kidnapper did not take her "a million miles" from their holiday apartment.
In the almost nine years since the three-year-old disappeared from Praia da Luz, there have been thousands of alleged "sightings" of her worldwide amid theories that could have been taken out of Portugal to be sold to a childless couple or criminal gang.
However, her mother has said she believes Madeleine most likely never left the country and that the holiday resort is the place where she "feels closest" to her.
Mrs McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, vowed she and her husband Gerry would "never give up" hope of finding their daughter after she vanished shortly before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
The 47-year-old, who is an ambassador for charity Missing People, said her research had led her to believe abducted children were not usually taken far from the scene.
"That's where she last was and I don't think she's been taken a million miles from there", Mrs McCann told The Sun.
"I've always said Praia da Luz is the place where I feel closest to her. It's all only speculation, but we've learned that's usually the case."
Mrs McCann said the urge to look for Madeleine - whose 13th birthday is in May - "absolutely hasn't changed at all".
"You hear all the time about people who have been missing for years being found," she added. "There have been so many cases like that.
"We will never give up. You couldn't settle if you thought about giving up. I want an end, an answer. Whatever that it is."
She is leading a two-week appeal in a bid to get a million people in the UK to register for Child Rescue Alerts. The free scheme - funded by The Royal Mail - sends early warning messages to mobiles, computers and tablets when a child goes missing.
Mrs McCann said that the alert system, which she helped launch, could have "mobilised" people at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.
Since 2011, the Metropolitan Police have been assisting in the search for clues as to what happened to the youngster, with officers visiting the holiday resort in 2014.
The McCanns had previously praised the "meticulous and painstaking work" of detectives and have again offered thanks to the police.
However, last year the number of officers working on the case was reduced.
Operation Grange, which was launched in 2011, will continue but will have the number of full time officers working on the case reduced from 29 to just four.
Detectives have taken 1,338 statements and collected 1,027 exhibits, but a Scotland Yard spokesman said: "While there remain lines of inquiry to follow, the vast majority of the work by Operation Grange has been completed."
During Operation Grange, detectives from the Met regularly travelled to the Algarve to liaise with their Portuguese counterparts and undertook a number of exploratory digs in the Praia da Luz area.
Police said they had also investigated more than 60 persons of interest.
A total of 650 sex offenders have also been considered as well as reports of 8,685 potential sightings of Madeleine around the world.
In 2013, detectives working on Operation Grange announced they were looking into possible links between Madeleine's disappearance and bogus charity collectors who were knocking on doors in Praia da Luz at the time.
They issued a series of photo-fit images of suspects they said may have been hanging around the Algarve around the time Madeleine disappeared.
The decision to reduce the number of Met Police officers working on the case came after the Home Office granted another £2 million in order to continue with the investigation until April.
The cost of the investigation so far has been estimated at in excess of £10 million.
The Telegraph
Danny Boy
le© Provided by The Telegraph Madeleine McCann is still in the Algarve, claims mother
Kate McCann has said she believes her daughter Madeleine is still in the Algarve because her kidnapper did not take her "a million miles" from their holiday apartment.
In the almost nine years since the three-year-old disappeared from Praia da Luz, there have been thousands of alleged "sightings" of her worldwide amid theories that could have been taken out of Portugal to be sold to a childless couple or criminal gang.
However, her mother has said she believes Madeleine most likely never left the country and that the holiday resort is the place where she "feels closest" to her.
Mrs McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, vowed she and her husband Gerry would "never give up" hope of finding their daughter after she vanished shortly before her fourth birthday in May 2007.
The 47-year-old, who is an ambassador for charity Missing People, said her research had led her to believe abducted children were not usually taken far from the scene.
"That's where she last was and I don't think she's been taken a million miles from there", Mrs McCann told The Sun.
"I've always said Praia da Luz is the place where I feel closest to her. It's all only speculation, but we've learned that's usually the case."
Mrs McCann said the urge to look for Madeleine - whose 13th birthday is in May - "absolutely hasn't changed at all".
"You hear all the time about people who have been missing for years being found," she added. "There have been so many cases like that.
"We will never give up. You couldn't settle if you thought about giving up. I want an end, an answer. Whatever that it is."
She is leading a two-week appeal in a bid to get a million people in the UK to register for Child Rescue Alerts. The free scheme - funded by The Royal Mail - sends early warning messages to mobiles, computers and tablets when a child goes missing.
Mrs McCann said that the alert system, which she helped launch, could have "mobilised" people at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.
Since 2011, the Metropolitan Police have been assisting in the search for clues as to what happened to the youngster, with officers visiting the holiday resort in 2014.
The McCanns had previously praised the "meticulous and painstaking work" of detectives and have again offered thanks to the police.
However, last year the number of officers working on the case was reduced.
Operation Grange, which was launched in 2011, will continue but will have the number of full time officers working on the case reduced from 29 to just four.
Detectives have taken 1,338 statements and collected 1,027 exhibits, but a Scotland Yard spokesman said: "While there remain lines of inquiry to follow, the vast majority of the work by Operation Grange has been completed."
During Operation Grange, detectives from the Met regularly travelled to the Algarve to liaise with their Portuguese counterparts and undertook a number of exploratory digs in the Praia da Luz area.
Police said they had also investigated more than 60 persons of interest.
A total of 650 sex offenders have also been considered as well as reports of 8,685 potential sightings of Madeleine around the world.
In 2013, detectives working on Operation Grange announced they were looking into possible links between Madeleine's disappearance and bogus charity collectors who were knocking on doors in Praia da Luz at the time.
They issued a series of photo-fit images of suspects they said may have been hanging around the Algarve around the time Madeleine disappeared.
The decision to reduce the number of Met Police officers working on the case came after the Home Office granted another £2 million in order to continue with the investigation until April.
The cost of the investigation so far has been estimated at in excess of £10 million.
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So far this story has hit The Sun, The Mirror, The Star, The Telegraph and the Daily Mail today.
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With everything happening in the world today, The Sun leads its front page with a vague claim from the mother of a child who disappeared nine years ago. I'm not convinced the editor chose that as the main lead. This smacks of being told what to do further up the News Int'l chain. Child Rescue Alert seems a worthwhile thing, but to have the publicity fronted by KM?willowthewisp wrote:Rebekah Brooks still doing her bit for the family,eh Dave,wink,wink,LOL?
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err um um why haven't these intrepid reporters asked why the BBC Crimewatch programme was not shown in Portugal?willowthewisp wrote:Why haven't all these intrepid reporters asked Scotland Yards finest,( SIO Hamish Campbell,DCI Andy Redwood) why they could not find no trace of an alive, Madeleine McCann on their excursions to Portugal since 2011,Hovering above the Skyline in Helicopters and still no sign of Madeleine,DCI Nichola Wall left with a poisoned chalice?
Rebekah Brooks still doing her bit for the family,eh Dave,wink,wink,LOL?
Showing it in UK and Germany only, when Maddie's mother thinks Maddie might still be in Portugal makes no sense to me at all.
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My take on this is that KM knows exactly where Maddie is and she may very well be telling an element of the truth for once.
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One thing I don't recall ever reading about anywhere is an investigation of the back of the sofa that was pushed against the wall where the blood spatters were located.
Surely a competent investigator would seize that sofa and have its entire surface checked for blood spatter. It makes sense to me that if there was blood spatter found on the wall behind it, there should also be blood spatter on the sofa. And the sofa was a dark colour, so the chances of blood being missed by those cleaning the apartment might have been high.
I wonder if the sofa was ever checked for blood and Madeleine's DNA.
Surely a competent investigator would seize that sofa and have its entire surface checked for blood spatter. It makes sense to me that if there was blood spatter found on the wall behind it, there should also be blood spatter on the sofa. And the sofa was a dark colour, so the chances of blood being missed by those cleaning the apartment might have been high.
I wonder if the sofa was ever checked for blood and Madeleine's DNA.
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aquila wrote:So far this story has hit The Sun, The Mirror, The Star, The Telegraph and the Daily Mail today.
With the exception of 'The Express' which has no mention. Wonder why that is.
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If Kate McCann is convinced that Madeleine is alive...
I wonder what Kate thought Eddie and Keela were alerting to in their hire car, on her clothes, and in Apartment 5a?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTF4JTLeOWA
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Interesting timing and interesting language.
"We will never give up. You couldn't settle if you thought about giving up. I want an end, an answer. Whatever that it is."
We is used to show unity and shared co operation.
She starts off with We and then tells us never give up.
This is to presuppose that Maddie will never be found, which contradicts all they have been telling us, that Maddie is alive somewhere waiting to be found.
They could only say they will never give up if they know she will never be found?
Never give up presumes there will be no end date such as,
We will never give up until we find her,
which indicates there is a possibility of an ending.
It is finite as opposed to infinite.
As she points out, other cases where a missing child has been found years and decades later.
What she doesn't mention is the high profile cases where children have been recovered, they were all pubescent or adolescents not toddlers.
The girls were raped and abused and forced to have the abductors children in some cases.
In cases where younger children have been abducted and later found and returned home, most if not all are parental or familial abduction rather than stranger abduction.
She doesn't tell us what they will never give up.
Readers would assume she was talking about the search for Maddie.
She doesn't say that though.
What is it they will never give up?
I don't know.
I suspect she is instead referring to threatening and suing anyone who disbelieves them including Dr. Goncalo Amaral.
They will never give up protecting their reputations.
They will never give up asking for donations to fund their non existent search for their daughter, rather the donations will be spent on protecting themselves from prosecution.
They can't give up since to do so would likely mean the truth will come out and it's game over
Then she switches pronoun to her ever favorite 2nd person pronoun you indicates distancing.
She doesn't tell us I (she) couldn't settle if I (she) thought about giving up.
We know we wouldn't and couldn't settle or think about giving up.
She doesn't tell us that she wouldn't be able to settle or think about giving up.
How could she when she didn't tell us what the giving up related to
She then reverts back to first person singular I in relation to wanting an end.
Note though the dropped pronoun in relation to an answer.
There is also a dropped pronoun in relation to Whatever that it is."
She has no need for an answer since she knows what happened to Maddie although she may not know exactly where her remains are.
I want an end is a strong statement.
She takes ownership of it with the first person singular I.
I suspect this is truthful as in after 9 years of investigation by the PJ and Scotland yard, there is still no evidence of their claim of alleged abduction of their daughter.
Not even something that indicates it could be a remote possibility.
After 9 years, the investigation having been reopened by the PJ and the mccanns having no clue as to what evidence the PJ have is taking its toll.
How can they defend themselves against they know not what?
The suspicion has never stopped.
The threats and legal actions against the media and even the ex lead detective who was charged with finding their daughter have not silenced the critics.
Their reputations are in tatters, kate is pretty much unemployable, after all who is going to employ a self confessed child neglector in their practice, especially should she have to report an abused or neglected child.
She would be laughed out of court, pot and kettle springing to mind.
She could never work with the public because of who she is and the attention she would bring.
Gerry i suspect is trapped in his job and location since no reputable hospital is going to employ a self confessed child neglecter.
It is also likely that staff would refuse to work with him and patients would refuse to be seen by him.
I wouldn't be sure he could be employed abroad again since he and kate have not been cleared of involvement, and no hospital is going to employ a self confessed child neglecter or child killer (by accident or design)
Kate wants an end, an end to all the stress she is suffering, the guilt she is suffering.
It is eating her alive as we can see in her later pictures.
She looks now like she should have done when Maddie first went missing.
She wants an answer, but she doesn't say what to.
The answer relates to her wanting an end.
Does this relate to her wanting to press a button and they would ALL be togeather?
Whatever that it is."
The obvious answer would be what happened to Maddie and where she is.
The answer would be identifying who took Maddie.
The answer would be why did he pick Maddie and not one of the twins or another child from another family?
The answer would be how he committed the abduction without leaving any physical trace.
Why does she need to ask whatever that it is?
Does it relate to confessing the truth and accepting the consequences?
If it does it would be a relief for her and an end to the stress she is suffering and will continue to suffer until the truth comes out.
Does it relate to pressing a button?
If so then the twins are at considerable risk of harm.
Is she asking herself about wanting an end?
She wants an answer to her wanting an end?
Is she asking herself whether she could end it?
What does she mean by an end?
What does she mean by an answer?
Is this something she has discussed with someone else, such as gerry, a priest, a therapist or someone trusted?
Is she signalling she wants to come clean?
What answer would be an end?
I think kate is edging closer to a breakdown.
Trapped in a loveless marriage, a marriage that was in trouble before the vacation to PDL.
Judging by the bruises on her wrists and arms after Maddie vanished, was domestic violence involved?
She lives with the fear that perhaps one of the tapas 7 will decide to speak out (minimising their role as applicable)
Could they speak out due to guilt or guilty knowledge?
Could they speak out for a reward?
Could they speak out for immunity or maybe a plea deal?
What about their families?
Could gerry's family throw kate under the bus?
if kate was the only one charged, gerry could make millions from a book saying how he was deceived by kate, he did what he did to protect his family etc.
Act up the hardworking struggling single father of twins.
Maybe even a movie as was previously suggested or a mini series.
All the chat shows.
Possible political role or charitable role.
££££££££££
Whilst she stews in a prison cell or maybe if she is lucky a hospital.
Kate, you need to talk to someone, someone you can trust to do the right thing by Maddie and by you.
Someone who is willing to listen and advise.
Someone who would be right by your side as you take the first steps to bring this whole charade to an end.
Someone who will make sure the twins are cared for and that you get all the help you need.
Kate you want to talk, i and many others are prepared to listen, to be non judgemental, to advise on your options and, yes, even hold your hand as you take the first step.
Think about it please.
As gerry said
"Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand."
"An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended."
"Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feelings of guilt and fear."
He is right.
Speak out and it cannot be as bad as you imagined.
Speak the truth and we can and will forgive, for none of us are perfect.
If it was an accident, accidents happen, even if the parent is right next to the child
Speak the truth if not for you, then for Sean and Amelie so they can grieve and move on with their lives.
Speak the truth so you can grieve publicly and start the long overdue healing process, to come to terms with what happened.
"We will never give up. You couldn't settle if you thought about giving up. I want an end, an answer. Whatever that it is."
We is used to show unity and shared co operation.
She starts off with We and then tells us never give up.
This is to presuppose that Maddie will never be found, which contradicts all they have been telling us, that Maddie is alive somewhere waiting to be found.
They could only say they will never give up if they know she will never be found?
Never give up presumes there will be no end date such as,
We will never give up until we find her,
which indicates there is a possibility of an ending.
It is finite as opposed to infinite.
As she points out, other cases where a missing child has been found years and decades later.
What she doesn't mention is the high profile cases where children have been recovered, they were all pubescent or adolescents not toddlers.
The girls were raped and abused and forced to have the abductors children in some cases.
In cases where younger children have been abducted and later found and returned home, most if not all are parental or familial abduction rather than stranger abduction.
She doesn't tell us what they will never give up.
Readers would assume she was talking about the search for Maddie.
She doesn't say that though.
What is it they will never give up?
I don't know.
I suspect she is instead referring to threatening and suing anyone who disbelieves them including Dr. Goncalo Amaral.
They will never give up protecting their reputations.
They will never give up asking for donations to fund their non existent search for their daughter, rather the donations will be spent on protecting themselves from prosecution.
They can't give up since to do so would likely mean the truth will come out and it's game over
Then she switches pronoun to her ever favorite 2nd person pronoun you indicates distancing.
She doesn't tell us I (she) couldn't settle if I (she) thought about giving up.
We know we wouldn't and couldn't settle or think about giving up.
She doesn't tell us that she wouldn't be able to settle or think about giving up.
How could she when she didn't tell us what the giving up related to
She then reverts back to first person singular I in relation to wanting an end.
Note though the dropped pronoun in relation to an answer.
There is also a dropped pronoun in relation to Whatever that it is."
She has no need for an answer since she knows what happened to Maddie although she may not know exactly where her remains are.
I want an end is a strong statement.
She takes ownership of it with the first person singular I.
I suspect this is truthful as in after 9 years of investigation by the PJ and Scotland yard, there is still no evidence of their claim of alleged abduction of their daughter.
Not even something that indicates it could be a remote possibility.
After 9 years, the investigation having been reopened by the PJ and the mccanns having no clue as to what evidence the PJ have is taking its toll.
How can they defend themselves against they know not what?
The suspicion has never stopped.
The threats and legal actions against the media and even the ex lead detective who was charged with finding their daughter have not silenced the critics.
Their reputations are in tatters, kate is pretty much unemployable, after all who is going to employ a self confessed child neglector in their practice, especially should she have to report an abused or neglected child.
She would be laughed out of court, pot and kettle springing to mind.
She could never work with the public because of who she is and the attention she would bring.
Gerry i suspect is trapped in his job and location since no reputable hospital is going to employ a self confessed child neglecter.
It is also likely that staff would refuse to work with him and patients would refuse to be seen by him.
I wouldn't be sure he could be employed abroad again since he and kate have not been cleared of involvement, and no hospital is going to employ a self confessed child neglecter or child killer (by accident or design)
Kate wants an end, an end to all the stress she is suffering, the guilt she is suffering.
It is eating her alive as we can see in her later pictures.
She looks now like she should have done when Maddie first went missing.
She wants an answer, but she doesn't say what to.
The answer relates to her wanting an end.
Does this relate to her wanting to press a button and they would ALL be togeather?
Whatever that it is."
The obvious answer would be what happened to Maddie and where she is.
The answer would be identifying who took Maddie.
The answer would be why did he pick Maddie and not one of the twins or another child from another family?
The answer would be how he committed the abduction without leaving any physical trace.
Why does she need to ask whatever that it is?
Does it relate to confessing the truth and accepting the consequences?
If it does it would be a relief for her and an end to the stress she is suffering and will continue to suffer until the truth comes out.
Does it relate to pressing a button?
If so then the twins are at considerable risk of harm.
Is she asking herself about wanting an end?
She wants an answer to her wanting an end?
Is she asking herself whether she could end it?
What does she mean by an end?
What does she mean by an answer?
Is this something she has discussed with someone else, such as gerry, a priest, a therapist or someone trusted?
Is she signalling she wants to come clean?
What answer would be an end?
I think kate is edging closer to a breakdown.
Trapped in a loveless marriage, a marriage that was in trouble before the vacation to PDL.
Judging by the bruises on her wrists and arms after Maddie vanished, was domestic violence involved?
She lives with the fear that perhaps one of the tapas 7 will decide to speak out (minimising their role as applicable)
Could they speak out due to guilt or guilty knowledge?
Could they speak out for a reward?
Could they speak out for immunity or maybe a plea deal?
What about their families?
Could gerry's family throw kate under the bus?
if kate was the only one charged, gerry could make millions from a book saying how he was deceived by kate, he did what he did to protect his family etc.
Act up the hardworking struggling single father of twins.
Maybe even a movie as was previously suggested or a mini series.
All the chat shows.
Possible political role or charitable role.
££££££££££
Whilst she stews in a prison cell or maybe if she is lucky a hospital.
Kate, you need to talk to someone, someone you can trust to do the right thing by Maddie and by you.
Someone who is willing to listen and advise.
Someone who would be right by your side as you take the first steps to bring this whole charade to an end.
Someone who will make sure the twins are cared for and that you get all the help you need.
Kate you want to talk, i and many others are prepared to listen, to be non judgemental, to advise on your options and, yes, even hold your hand as you take the first step.
Think about it please.
As gerry said
"Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand."
"An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended."
"Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feelings of guilt and fear."
He is right.
Speak out and it cannot be as bad as you imagined.
Speak the truth and we can and will forgive, for none of us are perfect.
If it was an accident, accidents happen, even if the parent is right next to the child
Speak the truth if not for you, then for Sean and Amelie so they can grieve and move on with their lives.
Speak the truth so you can grieve publicly and start the long overdue healing process, to come to terms with what happened.
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Kate's research brings her to the conclusion that her child cant be "a million miles away"...fair enough, i can go with that....my research shows that a huge majority of children who come to harm, fall victim to their own family members. Research is fun.
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It's "reported" in The Guardian. Why are the broadsheets recycling this fairy story?aquila wrote:So far this story has hit The Sun, The Mirror, The Star, The Telegraph and the Daily Mail today.
It's my belief that TM has been working overtime over the past few days to counter Richard's film and the translated chapter of the book posted here..
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The circumference of the world is approx 24,000 miles, so clearly Kate doesn't think Maddie is anywhere on earth, so she must have been abducted by aliens.
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Kate is right to do this. She knows her child died and probably interred there. is this the last ditch sympathy drum up before the soon to be teenage twins start a bit of "mummy baiting"? The truth will be out there soon.
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worriedmum wrote:Thank you jeanmonroe, that's the one.
It intrigues me that Kate said this and that her mother Susan reportedly said that Kate was 'visited' by the disappeared Madeleine at night.....
She also said that she was haunted and that she regularly goes to Madeleines' room to speak with her.
Is she trying to tell us something?
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Because there are far more important world issues to report than regurgitating the nonsense that emanates from the feeble mind of Kate McCann? No of course not, that's too much to hope for..kaz wrote:aquila wrote:So far this story has hit The Sun, The Mirror, The Star, The Telegraph and the Daily Mail today.
With the exception of 'The Express' which has no mention. Wonder why that is.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/644132/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-portugal-algarve-praia-da-luz-missing-people-charity
ETA: Then again, it is fast approaching the ninth anniversary so I guess another year can't pass without at least a cursory mention. If Mitchell's still on a retainer what else can one expect?
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Kate McCann joins Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof in urging people to sign up to help find missing youngsters..
Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof? mmmm ... - Where's Esther Rantzen, on a sabbatical?
In the words of Gerry McCann ... "I'm not going to comment on that".
Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof? mmmm ... - Where's Esther Rantzen, on a sabbatical?
In the words of Gerry McCann ... "I'm not going to comment on that".
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Thanks HobsHobs wrote:Interesting timing and interesting language.
"We will never give up. You couldn't settle if you thought about giving up. I want an end, an answer. Whatever that it is."
We is used to show unity and shared co operation.
She starts off with We and then tells us never give up.
This is to presuppose that Maddie will never be found, which contradicts all they have been telling us, that Maddie is alive somewhere waiting to be found.
They could only say they will never give up if they know she will never be found?
Never give up presumes there will be no end date such as,
We will never give up until we find her,
which indicates there is a possibility of an ending.
It is finite as opposed to infinite.
As she points out, other cases where a missing child has been found years and decades later.
What she doesn't mention is the high profile cases where children have been recovered, they were all pubescent or adolescents not toddlers.
The girls were raped and abused and forced to have the abductors children in some cases.
In cases where younger children have been abducted and later found and returned home, most if not all are parental or familial abduction rather than stranger abduction.
She doesn't tell us what they will never give up.
Readers would assume she was talking about the search for Maddie.
She doesn't say that though.
What is it they will never give up?
I don't know.
I suspect she is instead referring to threatening and suing anyone who disbelieves them including Dr. Goncalo Amaral.
They will never give up protecting their reputations.
They will never give up asking for donations to fund their non existent search for their daughter, rather the donations will be spent on protecting themselves from prosecution.
They can't give up since to do so would likely mean the truth will come out and it's game over
Then she switches pronoun to her ever favorite 2nd person pronoun you indicates distancing.
She doesn't tell us I (she) couldn't settle if I (she) thought about giving up.
We know we wouldn't and couldn't settle or think about giving up.
She doesn't tell us that she wouldn't be able to settle or think about giving up.
How could she when she didn't tell us what the giving up related to
She then reverts back to first person singular I in relation to wanting an end.
Note though the dropped pronoun in relation to an answer.
There is also a dropped pronoun in relation to Whatever that it is."
She has no need for an answer since she knows what happened to Maddie although she may not know exactly where her remains are.
I want an end is a strong statement.
She takes ownership of it with the first person singular I.
I suspect this is truthful as in after 9 years of investigation by the PJ and Scotland yard, there is still no evidence of their claim of alleged abduction of their daughter.
Not even something that indicates it could be a remote possibility.
After 9 years, the investigation having been reopened by the PJ and the mccanns having no clue as to what evidence the PJ have is taking its toll.
How can they defend themselves against they know not what?
The suspicion has never stopped.
The threats and legal actions against the media and even the ex lead detective who was charged with finding their daughter have not silenced the critics.
Their reputations are in tatters, kate is pretty much unemployable, after all who is going to employ a self confessed child neglector in their practice, especially should she have to report an abused or neglected child.
She would be laughed out of court, pot and kettle springing to mind.
She could never work with the public because of who she is and the attention she would bring.
Gerry i suspect is trapped in his job and location since no reputable hospital is going to employ a self confessed child neglecter.
It is also likely that staff would refuse to work with him and patients would refuse to be seen by him.
I wouldn't be sure he could be employed abroad again since he and kate have not been cleared of involvement, and no hospital is going to employ a self confessed child neglecter or child killer (by accident or design)
Kate wants an end, an end to all the stress she is suffering, the guilt she is suffering.
It is eating her alive as we can see in her later pictures.
She looks now like she should have done when Maddie first went missing.
She wants an answer, but she doesn't say what to.
The answer relates to her wanting an end.
Does this relate to her wanting to press a button and they would ALL be togeather?
Whatever that it is."
The obvious answer would be what happened to Maddie and where she is.
The answer would be identifying who took Maddie.
The answer would be why did he pick Maddie and not one of the twins or another child from another family?
The answer would be how he committed the abduction without leaving any physical trace.
Why does she need to ask whatever that it is?
Does it relate to confessing the truth and accepting the consequences?
If it does it would be a relief for her and an end to the stress she is suffering and will continue to suffer until the truth comes out.
Does it relate to pressing a button?
If so then the twins are at considerable risk of harm.
Is she asking herself about wanting an end?
She wants an answer to her wanting an end?
Is she asking herself whether she could end it?
What does she mean by an end?
What does she mean by an answer?
Is this something she has discussed with someone else, such as gerry, a priest, a therapist or someone trusted?
Is she signalling she wants to come clean?
What answer would be an end?
I think kate is edging closer to a breakdown.
Trapped in a loveless marriage, a marriage that was in trouble before the vacation to PDL.
Judging by the bruises on her wrists and arms after Maddie vanished, was domestic violence involved?
She lives with the fear that perhaps one of the tapas 7 will decide to speak out (minimising their role as applicable)
Could they speak out due to guilt or guilty knowledge?
Could they speak out for a reward?
Could they speak out for immunity or maybe a plea deal?
What about their families?
Could gerry's family throw kate under the bus?
if kate was the only one charged, gerry could make millions from a book saying how he was deceived by kate, he did what he did to protect his family etc.
Act up the hardworking struggling single father of twins.
Maybe even a movie as was previously suggested or a mini series.
All the chat shows.
Possible political role or charitable role.
££££££££££
Whilst she stews in a prison cell or maybe if she is lucky a hospital.
Kate, you need to talk to someone, someone you can trust to do the right thing by Maddie and by you.
Someone who is willing to listen and advise.
Someone who would be right by your side as you take the first steps to bring this whole charade to an end.
Someone who will make sure the twins are cared for and that you get all the help you need.
Kate you want to talk, i and many others are prepared to listen, to be non judgemental, to advise on your options and, yes, even hold your hand as you take the first step.
Think about it please.
As gerry said
"Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand."
"An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended."
"Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feelings of guilt and fear."
He is right.
Speak out and it cannot be as bad as you imagined.
Speak the truth and we can and will forgive, for none of us are perfect.
If it was an accident, accidents happen, even if the parent is right next to the child
Speak the truth if not for you, then for Sean and Amelie so they can grieve and move on with their lives.
Speak the truth so you can grieve publicly and start the long overdue healing process, to come to terms with what happened.
"After 9 years, the investigation having been reopened by the PJ and the mccanns having no clue as to what evidence the PJ have is taking its toll."
That can't be nice at all...
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Ah! Bob 'Just give me the ****ing money' GeldofVerdi wrote:Kate McCann joins Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof in urging people to sign up to help find missing youngsters..
Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof? mmmm ... - Where's Esther Rantzen, on a sabbatical?
In the words of Gerry McCann ... "I'm not going to comment on that".
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Standing shoulder to shoulder with Gerry "Keep the money coming in" McCann's wife.MRNOODLES wrote:Ah! Bob 'Just give me the ****ing money' GeldofVerdi wrote:Kate McCann joins Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof in urging people to sign up to help find missing youngsters..
Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof? mmmm ... - Where's Esther Rantzen, on a sabbatical?
In the words of Gerry McCann ... "I'm not going to comment on that".
How apt.
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"Maddie is still in the Algarve", yes I think so too and I wonder if Kate is trying to tell us something here.
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kaz wrote:aquila wrote:So far this story has hit The Sun, The Mirror, The Star, The Telegraph and the Daily Mail today.
With the exception of 'The Express' which has no mention. Wonder why that is.
Noticed that the Express is running the headline today. .......................a bit late as far as headline news goes. Wonder if the piece of waste land sneakily shown in the picture of OC has any significance?
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Stephen Fry - didn't he commit credit card fraud when he was a lot younger? Yes, he did.hogwash wrote:Standing shoulder to shoulder with Gerry "Keep the money coming in" McCann's wife.MRNOODLES wrote:Ah! Bob 'Just give me the ****ing money' GeldofVerdi wrote:Kate McCann joins Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof in urging people to sign up to help find missing youngsters..
Stephen Fry and Bob Geldof? mmmm ... - Where's Esther Rantzen, on a sabbatical?
In the words of Gerry McCann ... "I'm not going to comment on that".
How apt.
http://www.swindonweb.com/?m=8&s=121&ss=1134&c=5482&t=Oh+golly+gosh!
Seems he is now jetting off to LA, so will our National Treasure be supporting Missing People from there?
http://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/644589/Stephen-Fry-waves-goodbye-to-the-UK-for-LA-after-storming-off-Twitter
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NickE wrote:"Maddie is still in the Algarve", yes I think so too and I wonder if Kate is trying to tell us something here.
Kate McCann says Portugal visit made her feel closer to missing daughter Madeleine - December 2009
Writing on the official Find Madeleine website she said: “We travelled to Praia da Luz yesterday afternoon. I have longed to come back here for two years for personal and emotional reasons.
“Early this morning we went to the lovely little church of Nossa Senhora da Luz.
“It was so quiet and peaceful - a real sanctuary. Although our pain feels much rawer here, it is comforting at the same time since we feel closer to Madeleine. We then walked down to the rocks on the beach, with its crashing waves and sense of vastness and freedom – another place where I’ve always felt able to reach out to Madeleine and find a little solace".
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-says-portugal-visit-3436481
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Look how much is spent on other missing children - £2,415.Verdi wrote:Indeed - including this..
£11million for the McCanns - I won't say Madeleine because this isn't about Madeleine...it's about her parents.
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Quite so, it's beyond infuriating - it's thoroughly sickening. Worse than spending millions on investigating a dead sex fiend when there are so many living just waiting to be incarcerated.Get'emGonçalo wrote:Look how much is spent on other missing children - £2,415.Verdi wrote:Indeed - including this..
£11million for the McCanns - I won't say Madeleine because this isn't about Madeleine...it's about her parents.
The £11m + (and still rising) is only the running cost of Operation Grange - what about Leicester police, the FSS, the CEOP the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the Hampshire police etc? Add to that the cost to the Portuguese citizens by way of the PJ investigation and the devastating effect the case has had on the local community.*
People STILL think that Operation Grange is conducting a legitimate review/investigation? This obfuscation is the result of high powered intervention and that's not a conspiracy theory, clear to see if people only open their eyes. The McCanns protection has not been orchestrated by the media, they are just a means to and end - a medium to cash in, confuse and spread the desired word. Will this lead to the end of the main stream media as we know it? No it won't! Will this case ever be solved? No it won't! Will the truth ever be revealed? No it won't!
Am I going to shut up? Yes I am! At least for this moment..
ETA: Right, I've given it a moment.. *Add to that the cost to the official 'Find Madeleine Fund', all those thousands donated by members of the public who were hoodwinked into thinking they were helping a little child. The double glazing agent, who from the first moment was so convinced of the McCanns innocence, he was prepared to assist them both financially and morally? Pull the other one - normally the more wealthy the more stingy.
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Verdi wrote:NickE wrote:"Maddie is still in the Algarve", yes I think so too and I wonder if Kate is trying to tell us something here.
Kate McCann says Portugal visit made her feel closer to missing daughter Madeleine - December 2009
Writing on the official Find Madeleine website she said: “We travelled to Praia da Luz yesterday afternoon. I have longed to come back here for two years for personal and emotional reasons.
“Early this morning we went to the lovely little church of Nossa Senhora da Luz.
“It was so quiet and peaceful - a real sanctuary. Although our pain feels much rawer here, it is comforting at the same time since we feel closer to Madeleine. We then walked down to the rocks on the beach, with its crashing waves and sense of vastness and freedom – another place where I’ve always felt able to reach out to Madeleine and find a little solace".
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-says-portugal-visit-3436481
So they feel closer to Madeleine at the church and they are also able to reach out to Madeleine near the rocks on the beach. (just like Amaral suggested, and then repeated in closing chapters of his book)
Kate has often tried to tell us something. This indicates a cremation at the church and the ashes buried at sea imo.
Or could this be yet another mis-leader like that great line regularly spun and promoted by the media
"Maddie disappeared from her bed in her holiday apartment on May 3rd 2007 while her parents ate at the local tapas bar"
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The church isn't a crematorium though Sharonl.sharonl wrote:Verdi wrote:NickE wrote:"Maddie is still in the Algarve", yes I think so too and I wonder if Kate is trying to tell us something here.
Kate McCann says Portugal visit made her feel closer to missing daughter Madeleine - December 2009
Writing on the official Find Madeleine website she said: “We travelled to Praia da Luz yesterday afternoon. I have longed to come back here for two years for personal and emotional reasons.
“Early this morning we went to the lovely little church of Nossa Senhora da Luz.
“It was so quiet and peaceful - a real sanctuary. Although our pain feels much rawer here, it is comforting at the same time since we feel closer to Madeleine. We then walked down to the rocks on the beach, with its crashing waves and sense of vastness and freedom – another place where I’ve always felt able to reach out to Madeleine and find a little solace".
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-says-portugal-visit-3436481
So they feel closer to Madeleine at the church and they are also able to reach out to Madeleine near the rocks on the beach. (just like Amaral suggested, and then repeated in closing chapters of his book)
Kate has often tried to tell us something. This indicates a cremation at the church and the ashes buried at sea imo.
Or could this be yet another mis-leader like that great line regularly spun and promoted by the media
"Maddie disappeared from her bed in her holiday apartment on May 3rd 2007 while her parents ate at the local tapas bar"
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Nina wrote:The church isn't a crematorium though Sharonl.sharonl wrote:Verdi wrote:NickE wrote:"Maddie is still in the Algarve", yes I think so too and I wonder if Kate is trying to tell us something here.
Kate McCann says Portugal visit made her feel closer to missing daughter Madeleine - December 2009
Writing on the official Find Madeleine website she said: “We travelled to Praia da Luz yesterday afternoon. I have longed to come back here for two years for personal and emotional reasons.
“Early this morning we went to the lovely little church of Nossa Senhora da Luz.
“It was so quiet and peaceful - a real sanctuary. Although our pain feels much rawer here, it is comforting at the same time since we feel closer to Madeleine. We then walked down to the rocks on the beach, with its crashing waves and sense of vastness and freedom – another place where I’ve always felt able to reach out to Madeleine and find a little solace".
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/kate-mccann-says-portugal-visit-3436481
So they feel closer to Madeleine at the church and they are also able to reach out to Madeleine near the rocks on the beach. (just like Amaral suggested, and then repeated in closing chapters of his book)
Kate has often tried to tell us something. This indicates a cremation at the church and the ashes buried at sea imo.
Or could this be yet another mis-leader like that great line regularly spun and promoted by the media
"Maddie disappeared from her bed in her holiday apartment on May 3rd 2007 while her parents ate at the local tapas bar"
Isn't there one nearby? I may be wrong about this, I will need to check.
Edited: I must have been thinking about the Pet Crematorium that was 30 minutes drive away, but even that had been closed down in March and the moved to Lisbon http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483006/Portuguese-police-swoop-pet-crematorium-new-Madeleine-lead.html
Either way, It does sound to me that the church and the ocean were involved in the disposal of Madeleines' body. Either that, or this comment from Kate is another attempt to send us searching in the wrong direction.
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