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Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by Nina on 25.04.14 22:37

Dee Coy wrote:
@Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.
I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by Guest on 25.04.14 22:44

@Nina wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
@Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.
I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

I haven't been able to play it either, Nina. sad 

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.

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Post by angie o'plasty on 25.04.14 23:04

Dee Coy wrote:
@Nina wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
@Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.
I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

I haven't been able to play it either, Nina. sad 

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.



Hopefully this link will work. It is only available for a few more days though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJDqineHlTI&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by noddy100 on 25.04.14 23:14

It's on YouTube

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by noddy100 on 25.04.14 23:20

Maybe SY and AR need to get them on Portuguese soil to arrest them 
And are using the various lines of enquiry as bait to get them there

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Post by stillsloppingout on 25.04.14 23:32

I have just listened , the line that stood out was that the PJ gave a power point presentation to the McCann's re the progress of the case . It sounds to me like they are all working together to find a solution that will best fit the Mc's  thesis . Notice how Nicky Campbell did not present that piece , he is Gerry's biggest fan .

PPS if a paper does go out on a limb [ as alluded too . i will guess its the Mail,  [ not the sun ] The Mirror  / Star / still selling too much hard copy , the Mail with its online sales is more likely .[ The Times as a second choice ] . but as usual nobody has a clue .

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by Gillyspot on 25.04.14 23:41

My attempt at a transcript

"
Rachel=British police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann say they are looking at 18 break ins into villas on the Algarve by a lone intruder.




6 have come to light since an appeal last month, with 5 involving an alleged sexual assaults against young British girls.




Paul Luckman is the publisher of the english newspaper the Portugal News and has followed this whole story and the whole investigation over the past few years very closely.




Morning Paul. So do you thing the Met Police are genuinely onto something new here?




PL – Em, I think I Have to question it. the Met. We have certainly heard nothing of these cases and anything involving foreigners comes pretty quickly to our ears. Its inevitable we are the largest English paper in Portugal you get to hear about these things. Em I noticed locally, certainly nationally, none of the national papers have picked up on this story and they have extremely good police contacts here. I don't think anybody here is taking this seriously and you really begin to wonder er I wonder after all the money that the Met have spent on this case if they're not looking to almost justify, I think we're looking what £7 million at the minute, on the investigation.




Rachel – Yeah , just be clear you're saying that you doubt the reports of these break ins, or..just the fact that they might be connected in some way to the Madeleine McCann disappearance.




PL – D'you know I am not in the position to, to say that definitely. But there have been no reports on this. Em at anytime I have found this extremely strange. I have searched through all our archives. Nothing has come to our ears or been reported.




Rachel – What about this assault on a 10 year old girl back in 2005 in Praia Da Luz. Now that's only recent that information & we don't know why it's only come to light recently. There are all sorts of … potential explanations. It could be that the child herself didn't report it at the time, They have to look closely at something like that don't they.




PL – Well the police will look closely and I think that the attitude, certainly the comments that I heard yesterday I believe eh will do little to create good relations between the English police and the Portuguese Police who are trying very hard to get this resolved. They have reopened the case




Rachel (interrupts) – are they cooperating with the Met?




PL – Yes, totally em this, this suggestion that they're not. I read headlines in the UK this morning arrests imminent … complete nonsense em the, the Met cannot make and I am sure they're not even claiming, they can't come into Portugal to make arrests mm you'll remember we had a situation like this 2, 3 months ago where there was mass coverage and they were arriving to make arrests and it just petered into nothing, there was nothing it was just a regular visit. Em we had a situation where er the Met stated that the police, the Portuguese police had not told them about a Cape Verdian who apparently was accused of three rapes of children and yet we had it directly from the police that in fact they had briefed the Met and the McCanns 6 months earlier in Lisbon even with a power point presentation on this case so these things don't do an awful lot to help relations and uh lets see what happens. Uh as I say I am very surprised there is no coverage at all not from any of the major dailies here in Portugal this morning and they are extroadinarly well connected much so than us ourselves of course. Just no mention at all.

Rachel – (interrupts) as you say we'll wait to see what happens. Thank you very much Paul, nice to talk to you. "

Note the bit in BOLD

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by worriedmum on 25.04.14 23:48

Thank you Gillyspot!

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by Guest on 25.04.14 23:49



I haven't been able to play it either, Nina. sad 

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.
DeeCoy - iirc the map thingy on this site says you are in Merseyside/Northwest? I am too. I 've been trying since early evening to get it to play. Too close to home?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 26.04.14 2:22

IF there are NO 'arrests' by DCI Redwood and the Met (at the third time of saying there will be!) what THEN?

The boy who cried 'wolf' will become the man who cried 'wolf'?


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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by lj on 26.04.14 2:25

Dee Coy wrote:
@petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.  high5 

The McCanns will throw anyone under the bus if it suits them, even eachother.

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Post by Okeydokey on 26.04.14 2:34

We need an award system here.

I'd like to recommend Paul Luckman for the

Madeleine Medal of Honour.

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by Watching on 26.04.14 6:11

@lj wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
@petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.  high5 

The McCanns will throw anyone under the bus if it suits them, even eachother.
 
Mr & Mrs Signature song?   Look out granny McCann!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prf1wBAS9TI


closely followed by 'You've Lost that Loving Feeling'




Ye Canna Shove yer Granny
Album: I Love Sing Along Scottish Favorites 
 
Traditional  
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus,
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus,
O ye canna shove yer Granny
'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus.
Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus.
Ye can shove yer ither Granny
'Cos she's yer Daddy's Mammy
Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus.
Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie affa bus.
Uncle Wullie's like yer Faither
A harum-scarum blether,
Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus.
Ye can shove Auntie Maggie aff a bus.
Auntie Meg's yer Faither's sister,
She's naethin' but a twister,
Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus.

But ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus.
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus
. O ye canna shove yer Granny,
'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy,
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus.

Singing I will if you will so will I 
Singing I will if you will so will I 
Singing I will if you will I will if you will 
Singing I will if you will so will I 

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Post by IKNOWWHATHAPPENED on 26.04.14 9:01

I'm afraid anyone that believes the British media are going to break 'ranks' needs to be evaluated and scheduled.

The media, politicians and the Met are all involved upto their necks in this 'affair'

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Post by mariola on 26.04.14 9:21

@Watching wrote:
@lj wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
@petunia wrote:Dee Coy. she said that this paper (who she didn't name) are sick of Clarence Mitchell's spinning,and have been doing their own investigations in to Madeleine's dissapearance..We will have to wait and see... but i noticed Rupert Murdoch's papers didn't cover the latest maddy news..maybe the Mccanns have peed him off with hacked off? maybe Rebekah Brooks is peed off cos she is in the dock and the Mccanns who she supported will throw her and Rupert under the bus without a second thought,like i said we shall see.

Petunia - I have been thinking along the exact same lines.  high5 

The McCanns will throw anyone under the bus if it suits them, even eachother.
 
Mr & Mrs Signature song?   Look out granny McCann!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prf1wBAS9TI


closely followed by 'You've Lost that Loving Feeling'







Ye Canna Shove yer Granny
Album: I Love Sing Along Scottish Favorites 
 
Traditional  
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus,
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus,
O ye canna shove yer Granny
'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus.
Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus.
Ye can shove yer ither Granny
'Cos she's yer Daddy's Mammy
Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus.
Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie affa bus.
Uncle Wullie's like yer Faither
A harum-scarum blether,
Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus.
Ye can shove Auntie Maggie aff a bus.
Auntie Meg's yer Faither's sister,
She's naethin' but a twister,
Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus.

But ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus.
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus
. O ye canna shove yer Granny,
'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy,
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus.

Singing I will if you will so will I 
Singing I will if you will so will I 
Singing I will if you will I will if you will 
Singing I will if you will so will I 
Have you seen the face on granny mccann?Kate must have thrown her under a bus and she got steamrolled.

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Post by mariola on 26.04.14 9:29

Granny McCann was  the woman who told the world that Gerry was feeling better now that the fund had been set up.One week after maddie went missing!

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Re: Breaking Sky news - Brit police to go to portugal next week to help portuguese with investigations

Post by Nina on 26.04.14 9:33

@worriedmum wrote:Thank you Gillyspot!
And from me too Gillyspot  roses

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Post by Rasputin on 26.04.14 9:34

@IKNOWWHATHAPPENED wrote:I'm afraid anyone that believes the British media are going to break 'ranks' needs to be evaluated and scheduled.

The media, politicians and the Met are all involved upto their necks in this 'affair'

Off topic slightly , I watched " Ace in the hole " lastnight with Kirk Douglas playing the part of a lowlife journalist who milks a tragedy ... the politician the policeman and the media are all in it up to their necks...along with the victim stuck underground in a hellish lair....worth watching !

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Post by Guest on 26.04.14 9:37

A breath of fresh air, this man (this guy from Portugal, that is, the journo)

Odd to see the resurrection of Clarence Mitchell; wasn't he the dream contender for an MP-ship somewhere south?
Foundering?

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Post by plebgate on 26.04.14 9:40

Trying to become an MP in Brighton but they have a very feisty Green Party MP at mo.   Wd be very surprised if he managed to oust her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27069345

I hope he loses his deposit at the next election.  I really do.

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Post by Guest on 26.04.14 9:41

@mariola wrote:Granny McCann was the woman who told the world that Gerry was feeling better now that the fund had been set up.One week after maddie went missing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML-gTcKDKrM

It was actually a fortnight - that makes it all right!!

John McCann's performance 6 days later is still shocking to watch now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eow5XijukmU

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Post by mariola on 26.04.14 9:43

@mariola wrote:Granny McCann was  the woman who told the world that Gerry was feeling better now that the fund had been set up.One week after maddie went missing!
Sorry it was two weeks later.Still on youtube, Eileen Mccann and Brian Kennedy at rothley,17th may 2007.Chillingly sinister given what we now know.

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Post by mariola on 26.04.14 9:48

nfwtd,. thank you.you are brilliant.

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Post by Guest on 26.04.14 9:50

Yes, very uplifting to have a limited corporation established directly after your little daughter has been missed, a company for your legal expenditure

Funny, how we all, at the time, overlooked the dark meaning behind it all

For which legal charges & expenses could the bereaved parent POSSIBLY have been expecting, to hit him immediately?

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Post by Guest on 26.04.14 10:40

@angie o'plasty wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
@Nina wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:
@Gillyspot wrote:Paul Luckman (for it was he) is also on twitter & Deborah (@Iwillnotgoaway) & I follow him. His twitter username is @theportugalnews

The guy on the 5live interview earlier? Is this the journalist to whom Deborah refers? More to come from him, then, with luck.
I really wish I could access the interview, is there a transcript do you know please?

I haven't been able to play it either, Nina. sad 

If it has been pulled, the BBC must be worried by what was said. Wouldn't mind betting they've been alerted by he number of 'hits' the listen again site was getting. Still in line, then.

I too would be grateful if anyone could summarise the interview.
Hopefully this link will work. It is only available for a few more days though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJDqineHlTI&feature=youtu.be

Thank you, angie o'plasty! And to Gillyspot for your transcript.

2 things struck me, the very genuine expression  of disbelief and bemusement at the Met's claims of all the reports of the 'newly discovered' crimes and, possibly more importantly, his insistence of the cooperation of the PJ with the Met and the McCanns. Whether this collusion is still active - it apparently only related to the PJ's investigation with regards to the Cape Verde man - or the PJ's investigation has taken them subsequently down a path where it is now prudent to close ranks is one to discuss.

What it does mean is that both McCanns, unless they were shown the PowerPoint presentation by video link, have indeed made a journey on Portuguese soil together around November time last year.

I would urge everyone to listen to the youtube link while it's still there, very revealing indeed. Thank you both again.

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