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Nearly 1,000 serving police officers and PCSOs have a criminal record

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Nearly 1,000 serving police officers and PCSOs have a criminal record

Post by Guest on 04.01.12 13:46

For those that keep quoting that Mr Amaral is a convicted criminal (which will hopefully be overturned on 9th Feb or shortly after) they should read this....................



Nearly 1,000 serving police officers and PCSOs have a criminal record


More than 900 serving police officers and community support officers have a criminal record, official figures show.


9:57AM GMT 02 Jan 2012


Forces across England and Wales employ policemen and women with convictions including burglary, causing death by careless driving, robbery, supplying drugs, domestic violence, forgery and perverting the course of justice.


Those with criminal records include senior officers, among them two detective chief inspectors and one chief inspector working for the Metropolitan Police.


At least 944 currently serving officers and police community support officers (PCSOs) have a conviction, according to figures released by 33 of the 43 forces in England and Wales in response to Freedom of Information requests.


Many forces could not provide details of criminal records dating from before their staff joined the police, meaning the true figure will be significantly higher.



The Metropolitan Police, Britain's largest force, came top with 356 officers and 41 PCSOs with convictions.





It was followed by Kent Police (49), Devon and Cornwall Police (44), Essex Police (42), South Yorkshire Police (35), Hampshire Police (31) and West Midlands Police (27), although not all the figures are directly comparable.

The criminal records include:

Devon and Cornwall Police - a Pc convicted of burglary as a teenager.

Essex Police - one inspector convicted of dangerous driving; another inspector convicted of possessing and supplying cannabis; a detective constable convicted of robbery; a Pc convicted of data protection breaches for viewing intelligence records relating to friends, relatives or other people living in the local area, and a special constable convicted of stealing a set of car number plates, putting them on another vehicle and obtaining petrol without paying.

Hertfordshire Police - a sergeant convicted of dangerous driving.

Kent Police - a Pc convicted of perverting the course of justice in 1998.

Merseyside Police - five officers convicted of assault and one convicted of causing death by careless driving.

Norfolk Police - a Pc convicted of causing death by careless driving.

North Wales Police - an officer convicted of forgery.

Staffordshire Police - an inspector convicted of assault causing actual bodily harm and a Pc convicted of keeping a dangerous dog.

Surrey Police - a detective constable convicted of obstructing police officers; a Pc convicted of wounding; a Pc convicted of drink driving in 1988 and resisting arrest a decade later, and a Pc convicted of animal suffering in 2006.

Most of the convictions are for traffic offences such as speeding and drink-driving, but the records also include a South Yorkshire Police officer convicted of fishing without a licence.

Home Office guidelines issued in 2003 say police officers should have ''proven integrity'' because they are vulnerable to pressure from criminals to reveal information.

The guidance says forces should reject potential recruits with convictions for serious offences - including causing actual bodily harm, burglary, dangerous driving and supplying drugs - unless there are ''exceptionally compelling circumstances''.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8987795/Nearly-1000-serving-police-officers-and-PCSOs-have-a-criminal-record.html



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Post by PeterMac on 04.01.12 16:58

In my day they would not have been accepted on the Force.
But then neither would men under 6' tall, (Nottingham), those with tattoos, those with 'unsuitable' family backgrounds, or 'unsuitable' wives.
And those who were known or suspected of being homosexual simply 'need not apply'.
Similarly those who wore spectacles.
It took a long time for the force to accept black and asian people.
And God forbid that you had an education !
(I got a mention in the 1972 Annual report. "112 officers were recruited - one of them a graduate" !!!)

Things have changed. Whether the pendulum has swung too far, both in this and in other walks of live, is a matter for endless debate.

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Post by Newintown on 04.01.12 22:00

@PeterMac wrote:In my day they would not have been accepted on the Force.
But then neither would men under 6' tall, (Nottingham), those with tattoos, those with 'unsuitable' family backgrounds, or 'unsuitable' wives.
And those who were known or suspected of being homosexual simply 'need not apply'.
Similarly those who wore spectacles.
It took a long time for the force to accept black and asian people.
And God forbid that you had an education !
(I got a mention in the 1972 Annual report. "112 officers were recruited - one of them a graduate" !!!)

Things have changed. Whether the pendulum has swung too far, both in this and in other walks of live, is a matter for endless debate.

You are probably right that the penulum has swung too far. My friend's son has just qualified as a firefighter. He is only just over 5 ft tall. I told him that if he had to rescue anyone and throw them over his shoulder, their head would be banging on the pavement. We laughed about it at the time, but it's not really funny when you think people's lives are at risk because of stupid PC gone mad. He is very strong and works out every day so would have no problem in carrying anyone, he's just shorter than the average fire fighter. There was also a girl on the training course with him but she had no strength to do any of the difficult, tough jobs as she was as skinny as a beanpole apparently. She left the course after a few weeks. I don't know whether she jumped or was pushed but she was obviously not cut out to be a firefighter.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.12 22:24

@PeterMac wrote:In my day they would not have been accepted on the Force.
But then neither would men under 6' tall, (Nottingham), those with tattoos, those with 'unsuitable' family backgrounds, or 'unsuitable' wives.
And those who were known or suspected of being homosexual simply 'need not apply'.
Similarly those who wore spectacles.
It took a long time for the force to accept black and asian people.
And God forbid that you had an education !
(I got a mention in the 1972 Annual report. "112 officers were recruited - one of them a graduate" !!!)

Things have changed. Whether the pendulum has swung too far, both in this and in other walks of live, is a matter for endless debate.

Fancy that - a graduate policeman - certainly not a Chief Wiggum then..you need to change your Avatar...maybe Morse?
The mind boggles at what an unsuitable wife would be.



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Post by Gillyspot on 04.01.12 23:33

The shocking figure is the Metropolitan Police with 356 officers and 41 PCSO's with convictions. That is more than 1 in every 100 of the officers serving for that force. No wonder the Met has been shown to be corrupt.

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Post by aquila on 05.01.12 0:01

@Gillyspot wrote:The shocking figure is the Metropolitan Police with 356 officers and 41 PCSO's with convictions. That is more than 1 in every 100 of the officers serving for that force. No wonder the Met has been shown to be corrupt.

PCSO's are easy on the budget and a few more visible uniforms on the streets. They used to be called 'Specials' or 'Hobby Bobbies' - then they were given a new brand 'PCSO'. Another poor initiative from the corridors of power IMO. Our (even though I am not currently in UK I'm a Brit through and through) police service should be staffed with erm...POLICE...that's the word I was looking for. Trained, salaried officers. Fully vetted.

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